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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 17, 2021 1:53:12 GMT
Definitely seems they should've just cut last generation entirely to save themselves all of this trouble they put on them. I don't imagine the game selling as well but I guess it's moot when you're refunding people anyway as is. Just seems they really could've waited another half a year to be honest but I know them holiday dollars must've been hard to turn away.
Given that CDPR were making the fucking game since TW3 was winding down (if not longer) and it's was originally made for PS4 and XB1, but then they dragged their feet on this turd so they could get their rabid fanbase so upset that this broken POS game so they could use the bullshit excuse that "would work better on the new consoles and new expensive PCs" that most players can't find and/or afford.
Blaming their fans for not playing it on "the correct" platform is just them and their rabid fanbase not being able to accept that they made a REALLY shitty game and as far I'm concerned it couldn't happened a better company. CDPR has produced nothing but over-hyped pieces of shit games since day one and now the chickens have come to roost.
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 17, 2021 18:56:44 GMT
Given that CDPR were making the fucking game since TW3 was winding down (if not longer) and it's was originally made for PS4 and XB1, but then they dragged their feet on this turd so they could get their rabid fanbase so upset that this broken POS game so they could use the bullshit excuse that "would work better on the new consoles and new expensive PCs" that most players can't find and/or afford.
Blaming their fans for not playing it on "the correct" platform is just them and their rabid fanbase not being able to accept that they made a REALLY shitty game and as far I'm concerned it couldn't happened a better company. CDPR has produced nothing but over-hyped pieces of shit games since day one and now the chickens have come to roost.
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess.
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 17, 2021 19:17:11 GMT
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess.
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
Having actually played the game, this interpretation is fairly off-base. There’s no plot to save the world or overthrow the government, and there’s no sex scenes beyond what the player wants to happen, and even then, can just be exclusively with a character that has a full-fledged romantic subplot, in a scene that I’d say is no more explicit than Scott and Cora’s scene in Andromeda. But, I guess it doesn’t matter; you’ve already decided to hate something you know little about. Heck, you believe there’s transphobic messages in the game, perhaps because one of those hack clowns on Kotaku probably said so, or some other echo chamber ready to be content with their misinformation.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 17, 2021 19:19:46 GMT
there’s no sex scenes beyond what the player wants to happen Not true. There is one mandatory sec scene: the memory of Johnny and Alt.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 17, 2021 19:27:23 GMT
there’s no sex scenes beyond what the player wants to happen Not true. There is one mandatory sec scene: the memory of Johnny and Alt. You’re right, my mistake. However, point stands though that these things are not used to gratuitous effect, and there’s plenty of story to support it.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 19, 2021 7:24:15 GMT
Given that CDPR were making the fucking game since TW3 was winding down (if not longer) and it's was originally made for PS4 and XB1, but then they dragged their feet on this turd so they could get their rabid fanbase so upset that this broken POS game so they could use the bullshit excuse that "would work better on the new consoles and new expensive PCs" that most players can't find and/or afford.
Blaming their fans for not playing it on "the correct" platform is just them and their rabid fanbase not being able to accept that they made a REALLY shitty game and as far I'm concerned it couldn't happened a better company. CDPR has produced nothing but over-hyped pieces of shit games since day one and now the chickens have come to roost.
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess. I think it's on par with Dragon Age 2 in terms of writing.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 19, 2021 7:31:36 GMT
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess. I think it's on par with Dragon Age 2 in terms of writing. I’m not sure if that’s supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing, because despite that game’s issues, the writing isn’t something I’d consider to be particularly bad, at least until it goes off the rails in the end (something Cyberpunk doesn’t really do btw). I’d say Mass Effect 3’s writing is considerably worse than that game, with vastly inferior character interactions. Even 2, in my mind, doesn’t fare that much better. BioWare’s problem is that they can nail down small stories, but too often fail hard when trying to make those broader strokes. If it weren’t for all the lovable characters, the games would collapse on top of the shaky internal logic. Dragon Age typically fares a bit better on those fronts.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 19, 2021 17:56:55 GMT
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
Having actually played the game, this interpretation is fairly off-base. There’s no plot to save the world or overthrow the government, and there’s no sex scenes beyond what the player wants to happen, and even then, can just be exclusively with a character that has a full-fledged romantic subplot, in a scene that I’d say is no more explicit than Scott and Cora’s scene in Andromeda. But, I guess it doesn’t matter; you’ve already decided to hate something you know little about. Heck, you believe there’s transphobic messages in the game, perhaps because one of those hack clowns on Kotaku probably said so, or some other echo chamber ready to be content with their misinformation. I'd say you covered everything there. The transphobic bit in particular is amusing, because it implies a lot of ignorance from several levels. 1, Cyberpunk is a negative world state where literally everything is going to be exploited for profit. So to expect tolerance and understanding from such a world, simply makes one a fool. 2, despite the point I just made it's still not even the case, because of one advertisement (the one Kotaku won't shut up about) isn't even the most sexually explicit add in the game.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 19, 2021 18:06:21 GMT
Having actually played the game, this interpretation is fairly off-base. There’s no plot to save the world or overthrow the government, and there’s no sex scenes beyond what the player wants to happen, and even then, can just be exclusively with a character that has a full-fledged romantic subplot, in a scene that I’d say is no more explicit than Scott and Cora’s scene in Andromeda. But, I guess it doesn’t matter; you’ve already decided to hate something you know little about. Heck, you believe there’s transphobic messages in the game, perhaps because one of those hack clowns on Kotaku probably said so, or some other echo chamber ready to be content with their misinformation. I'd say you covered everything there. The transphobic bit in particular is amusing, because it implies a lot of ignorance from several levels. 1, Cyberpunk is a negative world state where literally everything is going to be exploited for profit. So to expect tolerance and understanding from such a world, simply makes one a fool. 2, despite the point I just made it's still not even the case, because of one advertisement (the one Kotaku won't shut up about) isn't even the most sexually explicit add in the game. I thought it was interesting that religious iconography as another example of corpo exploitation kind of went unnoticed. Maybe they didn’t bother to really pay attention to the Sinnerman quest line. They also didn’t pay attention to the fact that Claire, aside from being transgender in the game, is also voiced by Maddie Taylor, an actress that came out as a trans woman in 2016. Kinda wild that they’d pay more attention to the Manticore ad more than Milfguard, even though the latter moans so loud it’s awkward to play in front of other people lol
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 19, 2021 19:25:03 GMT
I'd say you covered everything there. The transphobic bit in particular is amusing, because it implies a lot of ignorance from several levels. 1, Cyberpunk is a negative world state where literally everything is going to be exploited for profit. So to expect tolerance and understanding from such a world, simply makes one a fool. 2, despite the point I just made it's still not even the case, because of one advertisement (the one Kotaku won't shut up about) isn't even the most sexually explicit add in the game. I thought it was interesting that religious iconography as another example of corpo exploitation kind of went unnoticed. Maybe they didn’t bother to really pay attention to the Sinnerman quest line. They also didn’t pay attention to the fact that Claire, aside from being transgender in the game, is also voiced by Maddie Taylor, an actress that came out as a trans woman in 2016. Kinda wild that they’d pay more attention to the Manticore ad more than Milfguard, even though the latter moans so loud it’s awkward to play in front of other people lol No one cares about religion anymore. Everyone's all in on atheism and thinking believing in God is stupid. So naturally, no one will get offended by something that is potentially offensive to religion. The few religious people I've talked to online who played the quest was absolutely shook, to be sure. But they weren't offended. More of like a "omg that was too intense" kind of thing. One amusingly commented "CD fucked it up, they forgot to stab him with a spear to make sure he is dead." But yea, I don't think it went unnoticed, I just don't think anyone cares, because "ReLIGion iS StuPID!!1!" As for Claire, that does not fit their narrative Kaiser, knowing about Claire would also require that they actually play the game. Something they won't do because of "outrage" over nothing. Besides, Claire was Thicc as hell, I was hoping to get in on it  Milfguard, also the TV show about the Gay Hooker who works with the police, Mr Stud, The add with a snake about to go up a man's ass, the add of a nerdy looking guy literally shaking as a woman bounces her ass in his face. Honestly, all the adds are so over the top it's hilarious. The Manticore add is actually tame in comparison, It's literally just a dickgirl standing there drinking from a straw. She's also fully clothed, one of the few adds in game where that's the case.
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Post by Blast Processor on Jan 19, 2021 21:13:56 GMT
Milfguard is also a joke reference to Nilfgaard, which may or may not have something to do with Conan's Clueless Gamer review of The Witcher 3.
Anyway, just thought that was fun. Kinda wild that they’d pay more attention to the Manticore ad more than Milfguard, even though the latter moans so loud it’s awkward to play in front of other people lol Which is funny, if it was a TV show, I'd be all Barry White level of cool, "its a part of life, what of it?" But since its a game, the urge to be embarrassed get to me easier. LOL. I suppose because a lot of people don't really understand gaming as a medium.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jan 20, 2021 15:33:01 GMT
Oh I thought Milfguard was the tongue in cheek online reference for Nilfgaard. So there's actually a Milfguard in Cyberpunk? LMAO! 
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Post by saandrig on Jan 20, 2021 15:50:42 GMT
Oh I thought Milfguard was the tongue in cheek online reference for Nilfgaard. So there's actually a Milfguard in Cyberpunk? LMAO!  "It's not her first rodeo. Thirty new mares to choose from"... Possibly the most noticeable advertisement in the whole game as it also comes with an unmistakable sound effect out of nowhere. There is also a dog food commercial that is just so wrong on so many levels...
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jan 20, 2021 17:18:41 GMT
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess.
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
One mediocre game does not define a studio's reputation. Only unhinged haters were calling them overrated when they made the Witcher games, the expansions, all the free DLC over the years, and Gwent. Bottom line is they consistently delivered and rightly built up a good reputation.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 20, 2021 18:56:20 GMT
Oh I thought Milfguard was the tongue in cheek online reference for Nilfgaard. So there's actually a Milfguard in Cyberpunk? LMAO!  
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 20, 2021 19:11:49 GMT
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
One mediocre game does not define a studio's reputation. Only unhinged haters were calling them overrated when they made the Witcher games, the expansions, all the free DLC over the years, and Gwent. Bottom line is they consistently delivered and rightly built up a good reputation. While it's true that one mediocre game does not define a studio...this game is one seriously bad black eye, no matter how you slice it. All the blatant lies, horrifically designed systems etc. Many things about this game cannot be fixed simply with patches. It's important to note that once Bioware finally made a bad game, they never fully went back to their previous quality.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 20, 2021 21:28:48 GMT
From I've heard the main quest of Cyberpunk 2077 sounds like a bad Johnny Mnemonic wanna be (which was a 90s "cyberpunk" action movie with Keanu Reeves with info stuck in his head that could save the world. I've seen better and seen worse) so it sounds like V is like Johnny running around the world with the digital personality of Keanu (who is a freedom fighter in this universe) stuck in his head slowly trying to take over his brain, and overthrow the government with just more more tits, ass, sex scenes, transphobia, and headache inducing FPS gameplay than can cause can seizures in some people and CDPR hid that fact in the EULA and made it a joke as well. As speaking as some one who suffers from seizures and is getting more photo sensitive every year, I will say that for one all the other botches that CDPR has done that is one I hope that they get sued out of business for. Sorry but I don't give a shit about all their fucking awards and how pretty The Witcher games were or how "deep" and "moving" your or anyone else finds this game's story, but not putting a a seizure/photo sensitive warning at the start of the game to me that is seriously fucked up (and when you have a reviewer who had seizure and actually liked this turd publish a warning about the seizures then have morons send her memes and images that can cause a seizure that shows how fucking cowardly their fans are). Because as royally fucked up as Ubisoft is they at least put a seizure/photo-sensitive warning before their company logo for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, and even UNO. That is the first thing you see when you start up any of those games. Seriously how fucking God-Awful does an over-rated POS development studio have to be make fucking Ubisoft look good? I would say pretty God damn awful.
And honestly given the choice between getting a headache or seizure from playing (or even watching a lets play) of Cyberpunk 2077 (I've gotten a headache from the damn trailer) or playing the The Last of Us Part II I'll chose the latter every single time.
Because as flawed as BOTH of The Last of Us games are they both have had strong stories, with extremely and very flawed lead characters, some truly scary human monsters, excellent gameplay, crafting, beautiful graphics, and both told very dark and brutal stories of survival in a world gone mad and still had elements of humor and hope. I don't have to worry about getting a damn seizure or even a headache from playing them and the same with Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, UNO, Final Fantasy VII Remaster, Final Fantasy VIII: Remaster, Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, or any BioWare game as well.
One mediocre game does not define a studio's reputation. Only unhinged haters were calling them overrated when they made the Witcher games, the expansions, all the free DLC over the years, and Gwent. Bottom line is they consistently delivered and rightly built up a good reputation. You are right for The Witcher 3 doesn't define CDPR. The mismanagement of Cyberpunk 2077 does. The Witcher 3 wound up in a good place, but its launch wasn't the smoothest and that was what I was expecting from Cyberpunk 2077. Watch a few patch notes while waiting a couple of months and then buy the game and see if the FPS aspect makes me puke or not. The "free DLC" was overhyped and minor things at best and would be things BioWare as put into their patches for games and just didn't blow their own horn about how awesome their free content is. BioWare added a Golden Nug to move crafting recipes between characters and four legendary items you had to find I think there were one or two more things to Inquisition, but I don't remember for its been years. I cannot comment on the expansions for I got bored of The Witcher 3 and Gerald and moved on. As mentioned above Cyberpunk for an outside view is a train wreck. Now is that on the game or the PR around the game its hard to tell, but plenty of CDPs words have been throw back at them and claiming they are no better then any other publisher which is a mighty blow to what their reputation was built on. BioWare took a hit with Dragon Age 2 and its slid from there, but this to me is magnitudes worse I would say even worse the Andromeda's launch. I am not sure the reputation that CDP as damaged with Cyberpunk would even be able to come back fully especially since a lot of it doesn't deal with a bad game, but how people seem to feel the game was misrepresented to them. They talked about certain things in the game and then those things disappeared during development they even removed claiming the game fell into the role playing category after hyping up choice and roleplaying for years.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2021 21:33:07 GMT
It's absolutely a role-playing game. They did not lie about that. Anyone who claims it isn't and that part was a lie are either idiots and/or lying themselves.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 20, 2021 23:03:16 GMT
It's absolutely a role-playing game. They did not lie about that. Anyone who claims it isn't and that part was a lie are either idiots and/or lying themselves. CDPR themselves have changed it. They had "role playing game" as a description on Twitter and then it disappeared from there with no other changes replaced with open world action game. (my bad I needed a refresher). That is why people are making the claim because the company is no longer advertising it as such. Here is a video posted by another where they show the difference. Video Link
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2021 1:04:52 GMT
It's absolutely a role-playing game. They did not lie about that. Anyone who claims it isn't and that part was a lie are either idiots and/or lying themselves. CDPR themselves have changed it. They had "role playing game" as a description on Twitter and then it disappeared from there with no other changes replaced with open world action game. (my bad I needed a refresher). That is why people are making the claim because the company is no longer advertising it as such. Here is a video posted by another where they show the difference. Video Link I mean CDPR themselves says it's an action game than an RPG. twitter.com/CyberpunkGame
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Post by Blast Processor on Jan 21, 2021 1:09:39 GMT
Well then they better stop referring to themselves as, "the developer of critically acclaimed RPGs" then, because apparently they don't make them. That is unless they switched production to making Witcher and Cyberpunk themed rocket-propelled grenades instead. LOL.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 21, 2021 1:31:43 GMT
If Cyberpunk 2077 isn't a RPG, then they never made any RPGs since it's certainly more of one than the Witcher. Neither has Bioware, or Bethesda, or so on for that matter.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 21, 2021 9:56:52 GMT
I get that it’s easy to get hung up on the language of the official site, which curiously has a review blurb pop up that specifically calls it an “RPG”, but that doesn’t change how it functions. Playing V has offered me a great deal more flexibility than I’ve gotten playing Shepard, particularly in 2 and 3, with 3 being the most egregious offender thanks to huge chunks of dialogue being automatic (likely due to the inclusion of action mode). One primary complaint I’ve seen is about overall consequence and how one action affects another throughout the game world, but I always felt this was a secondary concern, especially if you’re just a lone wolf character in a city. If I kicked some rando in the shins and ran away in a neighborhod I’ll never revisit, it’s not as if the other “NPC’s” in my personal story are going to divine that I attacked someone, but I’ll know what I did.
In any case, I guess it’s official: Mass Effect 2 and 3 are not RPG’s. Forget about Fallout 4 with its baked in find-my-baby story. “Sarcastic” is not a dialogue choice, you goons. Easily some of the worst dialogue options I’ve ever seen.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 21, 2021 10:58:00 GMT
I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no Witcher fan, I haven’t played the first two and barely completed the third, but from what I can see, it at least did earn its accolades. Overrated as one might consider it, you can’t deny that there’s actually a solid effort in a solid product, even if you ultimately don’t personally like the breadth of its content. Like, I couldn’t give any less of a shit about The Last of Us. The genre interests me as much as watching fruit rot, and I flat out detest its gameplay, but I can see why people like it, and why it earned its place among people’s top picks. To be perfectly frank, part of me finds all of this somewhat amusing amidst my disappointment. I have a hard time getting into story-driven games since most of them don’t really suit my interests, so I’m always saddened when one that does has all this controversy and scandal surrounding it. The part I find amusing, however, is that even through all this, it still managed to edge out BioWare’s quality of writing as of late. So, small favors I guess. I think it's on par with Dragon Age 2 in terms of writing. I wouldn't say that. The story in CP 2077 is equally paced and doesn't stall like when you need to collect some requirements to enter the deep roads and visit countless same dungeons for that.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 21, 2021 15:13:48 GMT
I get that it’s easy to get hung up on the language of the official site, which curiously has a review blurb pop up that specifically calls it an “RPG”, but that doesn’t change how it functions. Playing V has offered me a great deal more flexibility than I’ve gotten playing Shepard, particularly in 2 and 3, with 3 being the most egregious offender thanks to huge chunks of dialogue being automatic (likely due to the inclusion of action mode). One primary complaint I’ve seen is about overall consequence and how one action affects another throughout the game world, but I always felt this was a secondary concern, especially if you’re just a lone wolf character in a city. If I kicked some rando in the shins and ran away in a neighborhod I’ll never revisit, it’s not as if the other “NPC’s” in my personal story are going to divine that I attacked someone, but I’ll know what I did. In any case, I guess it’s official: Mass Effect 2 and 3 are not RPG’s. Forget about Fallout 4 with its baked in find-my-baby story. “Sarcastic” is not a dialogue choice, you goons. Easily some of the worst dialogue options I’ve ever seen. First a little insight into my thinking. I don't think RPG exists as a genre anymore it was too loosely defined originally and unlike something like a FPS/TPS/Action game. It seems unclear what the core function of the genre is and plenty of people online disagree to what makes a RPG type of game. The majority of games released anymore with all the different systems they are putting into them would at the very least count as a RPG-lite type of game. Which is why I think its more of "RPG elements" is a better way to use the phrase with modern gaming trends. Now with Cyberpunk itself, I am just saying the company itself doesn't think its a RPG. Now does that mean it doesn't? Not anymore since RPGs are so many different things to different people. Some people its a few different systems in the game like crafting, for others its character creation, others its branching dialogue options, and the list goes on. For me it is the same as Mass Effect: Andromeda. Now for some that would mean it isn't a RPG and for others it does. At least for me Cyberpunk is more then The Witcher series for I get to make a custom avatar for the game and make choices that don't seem to be the same thing. The problem for some I have talked to the lack of any impact on the story lessens the argument of it being a RPG. As I said its a vague term and used more of a catch all for a game that wouldn't fit in the other genres retailers created.
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