The Mass Effect ending support group

Oboy...so we're going to go down this rabbit hole eh?... You sound just as ignorant as the folks who say to go to pornhub for your fixes etc.....this is not about that and nobody is upset about this....



Its concerning in that they want to cut these scenes in a game that is rated "M" and it's main audience is generally male adults. It's concerning because it shows these guys are worried about offending folks..."uh oh we better not show we are sexualizing women".... ..c'mon ..that is some BS.....don't get me wrong..i understand to a small degree, because i have daughters as well and i get it, but i'm also a guy that doesn't mind seeing a sexy chick in a nice pair of jeans with a nice fatty...and you know what?...there is NOTHING wrong with that....


Game was fine and didn't need to be edited....try to rationalize comprehending and understanding the other side without being dismissive with your juvenile response.

*shrugs* It could also be that the devs have come around to the viewpoint that the ass shots were kind of embarrassing and juvenile. That was the argument we used to see on the old boards, usually from people who thought that ME2 represented a steep decline in quality from ME1.

My response to that argument was that ass shots started in ME1, since the Consort gets one.

I have heard of this argument and i can agree with this....giving more attention to the conversation at hand rather than to focus on Miranda's a$$.....it still feels like a bit of a stretch to me, because Bioware knows the real concern for these games was endings, yet they went out of their way to edit Miranda when they really didn't need to.....and my first time playing ME2 and when i saw that shot of Miranda?...my initial reaction was.... 




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Which again, i have no issue with, but i understand shifting the narrative to a more serious tone during that scene when Miranda is being serious about trying to find her sister and talking about her father.....it just doesn't feel that genuine in that if you read part of that article that interviewed some of those Bioware devs, they stated that they would have made changes to certain characters because of how they was designed with a sexual flavor in general...so the argument for Miranda felt a bit dis-ingenuine when reading that if they had their way, they would have made some changes character wise...



Even tho..nobody had a problem with that in the first place....but Jaal from Andromeda being bisexual was a big uproar over that.....and changes was made accordingly. Now before folks come after me for that, i have no problem with that...just focus on things most players cared about which was mainly the endings..(which i really don't have a problem with...yeah they could've been better but i'm not losing sleep over it).....just deal with issues most fans have issues with....



So in closing i do understand your view and respect it....i just felt Bioware is being a wee bit agendy here with Miranda, because of other comments made in that interview.....

Yup. If you had to change one thing, the endings would be it. And I get it, budget, but RoI. The gaming public would flip their shit over it. It'd be worth it. You'd make the budget.

I still despise everything about that atrocious starbrat and the train wreck endings.
I’ll only play the game modded to remove the brat.
I wouldn’t want shep back unless it was my shep.
Accepted notion of moving forward within Milky Way, mainly as andromeda was so poor. Canonised far future without shep I can just about take as i want to see mass effect done well again. Ideally there’d be enough ambiguity about legend of shep in presentation.

oh, that thing is following me from thread to thread, attacking me and pathetically spewing entire novellas of salt because I made it look dumb on the internet.

I don't see its rantings anymore unless someone quotes it. Makes the forum far less cluttered and easier to read. DJT should have hired it to help with the wall since it likes constructing them so much.

I've made my stance clear enough over the years, but here it is. ONE MORE TIME! -theme music-

The endings were a mess, but I like the idea behind them. I like one last big choice with moral repercussions for all of the options, and drawbacks and benefits instead of one just being clearly the best. I also like that they correspond to three of the usual tones in science fiction stories -- especially the ones from the 70s and 80s that Mass Effect was always a love letter to.

I love the old Stargazer scene. Yes, it's cheesy, heavy handed, and sappy. Yes, it breaks the third wall so Buzz Aldrin could tell us kiddos about Science Fiction. It's incredibly corny and a bit stupid. But it's also sweet.

There are a lot of ways the endings are a trainwreck. They depend heavily on handwaveium, they're rather abrupt, the pacing is a mess, and it would be nice to get external feedback. Originally, they were also a complete mystery for afterwards. Even with the extended cut, there's a lot of "I wonder what happened" and the dreaded "speculation for everyone!" which is, at best, a painful way to end a trilogy that, up until that point, hadn't had much to do with the subtlety or mindfuckery that ye olde science fiction loves. And Starchild being a kid is, frankly, kinda lame. The Leviathans did it much better by flickering through people you'd interacted with, and it's less of a transparent attempt to sock you in the feels. The way the controls work is also stupid. While I love the visual of Shepard struggling to hold on to the control levers, for instance, the beam would work just as well and not run the risk of her blacking out during the destructive analysis. A lot of it falls apart or requires a lot of assumptions if you think about it -- which, granted, is in line with the rest of Mass Effect (looking at you, Virmire), but maybe isn't the BEST of it.

So in short, I like the ideas, I like it from a metastandpoint when you're talking about science fiction... In reality... Well, it is what it is.

I do feel like they could have been QUITE good with more polish and more foreshadowing than that one casino AI in Mass Effect 1, but here's what we got.

So the near total genocide of an entire race combined with an aggressive and hostile isolationist stance isn't foreshadowing?