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Post by traks on Feb 22, 2021 17:21:51 GMT
With the Legendary Edition coming out, I put up the support group hoping, that people start to accept that there will be no further improvements of the trilogy past the legendary remaster, but that despite the ending the trilogy was still good enough to stay interested in future games. I'm interested to see where this community stands, so make up to five choices for the five questions. I'll start: - I still dislike the endings of the trilogy
- I have accepted (in my case a long time ago) that there will be no further changes to the endings
- I am interested to play in any world state after the Reaper war with a different character than Shepard, as long as the premise for the next game is strong
- I am still interested in future games in the franchise
- I usually choose destroy
Edit: damn, made a mistake with the poll's headline. Of course "which answers apply to you" shouldn't be a choice... Can I still edit that? The only choice seems to remove the poll.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 22, 2021 17:31:49 GMT
I like destroy. I like watching the reapers fall over destroyed. The lead up to that was crap. The only thing the cut fixed was the flashbacks as Shepard shoots the tube. I did like the the narration by Hackett.
I am interested in future ME games
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 22, 2021 18:09:26 GMT
I am interested in future games, though if in the Milky Way I want them to respect and follow my canon choices. Ending-wise, I never had issues with the endings and I usually choose Synthesis.
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Post by 10k on Feb 22, 2021 18:41:18 GMT
Not interested in ME future. I disliked the endings even with the EC. I always choose control (because cerberus is right).
Basically, I just want the remaster and that's all. I'll still discuss ME, but as far as buying and investing myself in anything new. No. I'm more or less done with BW.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 22, 2021 19:06:10 GMT
I still dislike the ending. Because it was a load of nonsense and ended a trilogy I enjoyed with the farting sound of a released air balloon.
I have accepted long ago that BioWare won't try to improve the endings. As if. And really, it's just a video game.
I would accept playing in a world state not created by my Shepard. Unless it's synthesis, that just makes me feel uncomfortable as hell.
I am still interested in future ME games (without a remake). Sort of. Could be good, after all. Could be, with a new protagonist. You never know.
I usually choose destroy. Yup. Those toasters messed with the wrong meatbags.
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Post by a_mouse on Feb 22, 2021 19:24:31 GMT
Below is my favorite take on the ending of the Mass Effect series. I agree with most of it, and it definitely helped take the edge off!
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Post by Felya87 on Feb 22, 2021 19:25:02 GMT
I still dislike the endings (the extended cut is just some paint slapped on the originals, and have completely missed the character driven aspect of the game until that point-I don't care about the state of the Galaxy, is just backdrop to me)
I have accepted BioWare is not going to change the endings (at this point, is clear Bio is too prideful to just admit the endings are awful)
I am still interested in future games (I prefer the Andromeda way, no connection to the trilogy, new slate completely. I'd actually prefer an Andromeda 2)
I usually choose Destroy (even if I usually just turn off the game post Kai Lang's demise, but it still feel good choosing the ending BioWare was pushing as the worst, even to just go with a middle finger to the endings creators, and it was the only one who felt somehow logic for my Shepard. No wish to became a space dictator or a green blob to create the Borg.)
Overall, I would be ok with starting back in the Milky Way even with any non-destroy worldstate. I can see Control ending being about eliminating definitely the Reapers when the AI copy of Shep start becaming a dictator, so we end up having to defeat what was once a hero. While with Synthesy will be basically Matrix, with the individual personalities of both organics and syntetic wanting to get separated by the Reapers and each others, having to fight a rebellion both in the real world and in the sinthetic network. I would even be ok with a complete alternative universe where there is no Shepard and Reapers and start from the beginning in a complete reboot.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 22, 2021 19:32:29 GMT
I will always say around these conversations that 'like' may be a strong word...but the EC got me to a place where i can at least tolerate the ending and thus still makes it possible for me to enjoy full trilogy runs/ ME 3 runs. Now if they had nuked Synthesis i would then go up to like...but i also accepted thats not going to happen and moved on.
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Post by cribbian on Feb 22, 2021 20:01:39 GMT
Never finished the game but if I had all my shephards would have chosen destroy.
Still interested to se what they will come up with in the future though.
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Post by sentinel87 on Feb 22, 2021 20:04:53 GMT
In just about all of my playthroughs I choose destroy. I played a megalomaniac Shepard that choose Control once. Sometimes I don't go past Priority: Thesia because I find Cerberus HQ and Earth dull. Earth much more so.
I’m fine with the Extended Cut, like is a little too much, but I’m OK with it. I would have enjoyed a bit more epilogue that explains the state of the galaxy and a real firm view of Shepard being alive but what we have is passable.
The only real problem I had with the ending is the fact that the Reapers are just tools of the catalyst and have been pawns this whole time. I never like it when stories turn around and say the big bad is just a pawn at the last moment. It undermines and cheapens the antagonist in my view.
When I first came back online to the BSN again, since I had been avoiding leaks, I was really surprised at how some people didn’t think the organics vs. synthetics wasn’t set up. I think I had perhaps the only world state in which I thought that was the whole point of the series.
I sold Legion to Cerberus, backed the Quarrians at Rannoch (though I told them they should have not done this during the Reaper invasion) and always sided against AI’s in the series. To me the whole point of the games way back in ME1 was to defeat AI’s ever since the Geth attacked Eden Prime, AI are banned by the Council and the Reapers showed up. I thought the game universe had set it up rather explicitly that AI were bad.
I do want Bioware to carry over my choices on ME3’s ending though if they keep things in the Milky Way. It’s going to be interesting to see what they do with this. I honestly think a hard reboot is the best option if they do stay in the Milky Way. TLDR: Like the Extended Cut, interested in future ME games, usually choose Destroy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 20:06:08 GMT
Disliked the endings. Won't buy BW/EA products. Will watch reviews and longplays of future ME installments.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 22, 2021 20:07:49 GMT
- I still dislike the endings
- I have accepted that BioWare won't try again to improve the endings
- I would accept to play in a world state not created by my Shepard
- I am still interested in future games (without a remake of the trilogy)
But I am not interested in a new game with any other than the original cast and crew. It's just how it is.
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 22, 2021 20:49:50 GMT
I came a few months late to the party, so the I missed the endings before the extended cut- thankfully. As disappointed as I was with the endings still, I actually felt it was fairly appropriate and came to terms with it by accepting the destroy ending. Shepard's breath at the end was everything to me. Any inkling of hope I had that BioWare would further improve the endings evaporated not long after.
So while I think the endings could have been a lot more fulfilling and just overall better, I can embrace the destroy ending and move on to further ME games given they're nothing like Andromeda.
I have larger issues with Andromeda than I do with the ME3 ending.
I seriously doubt any future ME games will ever hold the magnificence and love I have for Shepard and MET.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 22, 2021 20:57:47 GMT
If the ycontinued ibnn the MW I'd want thenm t orespec tal possible ending options but given that's likely impossible given the corner they painted themselves in their best bet is to continue Andromeda tbh and figure out an answer from there if they haven't already. TBH I'm happy with how ME3 turned out sure it was alittle weak but I've seen worse endings to a story
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Post by themikefest on Feb 22, 2021 21:27:37 GMT
You want to know what's awesome about the poll? Destroy in the lead by a large margin over the other endings. See that Bioware? There's the ending to use. In fact go with Hackett's ending.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 22, 2021 21:45:48 GMT
- I liked the ending (extended cut)
- I am interested in future games without a remake
- I usually choose Synthesis.
- World state is irrelevant for the next game. A quality story and fun game play is all that matters.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Feb 22, 2021 22:50:48 GMT
I am still interesting in future Mass Effect games. I usually pick Destroy. (I did not select "I have accepted that BioWare won't try again to improve the endings" because I guess I never had a strong dislike for the ending.)
For record, I did not hate the original (not-extended) ending(s). But maybe that was because -- despite trying to avoid spoilers -- I became aware that there was a controversy over the ending before I finished my first playthrough. So maybe that softened the blow. But even still, I maintain that the ending is a good ending, just not a good ending to the Mass Effect trilogy. Despite its flaws, I think the ending could work in another game.
I also think that the Extended Cut improved some things about the ending(s), while making some other things worse.
I think the worst thing about the endings is not being able to skip through the dialogue, making the ending a slog to get through before you can even pick a color. I can skip through just about every other dialog in the game, not sure why I cannot skip through all the post-beam dialog.
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Post by sentinel87 on Feb 22, 2021 22:56:33 GMT
I think the worst thing about the endings is not being able to skip through the dialogue, making the ending a slog to get through before you can even pick a color. I can skip through just about every other dialog in the game, not sure why I cannot skip through all the post-beam dialog. Yeah this really is annoying. That and how slow Shepard moves when trying reach Anderson. Just another reason I don't enjoy Priority: Earth that much.
I think it shows the rough nature of the ending and how it was built to fast. The inability to skip dialogue has to be a bug.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 22, 2021 22:58:58 GMT
I think the worst thing about the endings is not being able to skip through the dialogue, making the ending a slog to get through before you can even pick a color. I can skip through just about every other dialog in the game, not sure why I cannot skip through all the post-beam dialog. Yeah this really is annoying. That and how slow Shepard moves when trying reach Anderson. Just another reason I don't enjoy Priority: Earth that much.
I think it shows the rough nature of the ending and how it was built to fast. The inability to skip dialogue has to be a bug.
It isn't a new thing. Elder Scrolls you can skip dialogue for everyone but the Dedera Princes.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2021 23:08:10 GMT
I think the worst thing about the endings is not being able to skip through the dialogue, making the ending a slog to get through before you can even pick a color. I can skip through just about every other dialog in the game, not sure why I cannot skip through all the post-beam dialog. Yeah this really is annoying. That and how slow Shepard moves when trying reach Anderson. Just another reason I don't enjoy Priority: Earth that much.
I think it shows the rough nature of the ending and how it was built to fast. The inability to skip dialogue has to be a bug.
I hate that in every game. Does anyone like the my character is drugged/injured etc scenes where you walk at a snails pace. I don't think anyone ever has, the first game that did it I suspect everyone hated it. And yet game designers keep inflict this on people thinking its some brilliant story telling tool.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 22, 2021 23:35:34 GMT
I am still interesting in future Mass Effect games. I usually pick Destroy. (I did not select "I have accepted that BioWare won't try again to improve the endings" because I guess I never had a strong dislike for the ending.)For record, I did not hate the original (not-extended) ending(s). But maybe that was because -- despite trying to avoid spoilers -- I became aware that there was a controversy over the ending before I finished my first playthrough. So maybe that softened the blow. But even still, I maintain that the ending is a good ending, just not a good ending to the Mass Effect trilogy. Despite its flaws, I think the ending could work in another game. I also think that the Extended Cut improved some things about the ending(s), while making some other things worse. I think the worst thing about the endings is not being able to skip through the dialogue, making the ending a slog to get through before you can even pick a color. I can skip through just about every other dialog in the game, not sure why I cannot skip through all the post-beam dialog. Yeah that's kind o fhow I feel I thought th eending was a littl ewea kbut it made sense within the universe t ome so I think it's moe rI' mhaspp yenough to live with th efac ttha tBiowaer won't change them. Besides despite th eendings I still find hte games fin eand fun enough t oplay and keep coming back to.
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Post by Little Bengel on Feb 22, 2021 23:57:51 GMT
So this is a thing. Very well. - I liked the ending (actually closer to indifference, but this was the most fitting answer).
- I would accept to play in a world state not created by my Shepard.
- I am still interested in future ME games (non-remake).
- I usually choose Destroy.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2021 6:54:54 GMT
I am still interested in future games (without a remake of the trilogy) I refuse to make a choice:
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 23, 2021 12:06:31 GMT
Trilogy is done. Won't change. I'd opt for Red Wedding again, but honestly - I've stopped at Marauder Shields in subsequent PTs. Mostly because of the unskippable stuff and the stupid starbrat.
I can't really say I'm interested in more. I really liked the setting, but after MEA it kinda feels sucked dry and milked for cheap returns. There'd need to be a compelling story and adventure once more. Cooking up some old stuff doesn't do it and riding on the popularity of the franchise with MEA didn't work out. Mostly because the gameplay doesn't work out with their world. Actually I think DAI did a better job at that. But by and large their attempts at Open World games didn't convince me at all.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 23, 2021 17:34:41 GMT
That and how slow Shepard moves when trying reach Anderson. The whole thing is crap. It start's with the who wants to commit suicide run, I mean beam run. Shepard gets shot by Harbinger. Shepard should be dead. Anyways. What purpose was it to have Shepard injured? To show his/her toughness? If that's the case, the player sees that toughness long before arriving on earth. The result could have been the same without Shepard being injured. I suspect it was done because it was the only way to get Shepard and Anderson alone on the Citadel for the touchy-feely scene. The problem with that is the lead up was crap with everyone suffering from temporary blindness not to notice the reaper flying away leaving the beam unguarded.
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