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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 8, 2023 16:17:45 GMT
Fuck.
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Post by skekSil on Sept 8, 2023 21:38:44 GMT
Having seen the ninth episode I must say its a very astute observation
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Post by skekSil on Sept 10, 2023 18:36:01 GMT
So, ninth episode: I'm willing to speculate that Day and Demerzel are still inside the Vault
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 11, 2023 3:45:17 GMT
So...uh...that was really...something. Terminus I had always assumed that 'Second Foundation' was an institution run in conjunction with OG Foundation.
I guess this means it follows the original...
I thought the Invictus was supposed to be this all conquering super ship? Or is it simply too old to compete with the newer vessels?
The Psychopath Ding dong, the witch is dead. Not a moment too soon, either.
Barry? I have questions. Is his new body immortal? Is he like a cat, 9 lives? Is this a Princess Bride type deal - "there's a difference between all the way dead, and mostly dead, and it happens, your friend is only mostly dead"... In an episode full of wtaf, this was the biggest shock, for me. Empire/Trantor We knew the Cleon line was capable of immense cruelty, and being a robot, I guess the 'line' is probably in a different place for her, but this was an example of cruelty unlike anything we've seen in this show before. I am assuming that Demerzel received some kind of Push notification that someone was in her old room...? and that is why she's bailing on Day, and calling out his bullshit.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 11, 2023 3:47:35 GMT
So, ninth episode: I'm willing to speculate that Day and Demerzel are still inside the Vault Meaning that the events after they entered are a simulation? I certainly wouldn't put it past Seldon to do that, but I'm not sure to what purpose.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 11, 2023 4:18:15 GMT
Spoilers for the spoiler gods So...uh...that was really...something. Terminus I had always assumed that 'Second Foundation' was an institution run in conjunction with OG Foundation.
I guess this means it follows the original...
I thought the Invictus was supposed to be this all conquering super ship? Or is it simply too old to compete with the newer vessels?
I can see the Invictus going down simply because it's that ancient. Grand old lady or some-such. What surprised me is that Glawen did a deathstar run on it. Seemed like a design oversight kinda kill rather that bringing her down. Also... those did not look like concussion mines. That was like a tractor-beam of death. (Very purdy though.) The Psychopath Ding dong, the witch is dead. Not a moment too soon, either.
Barry? I have questions. Is his new body immortal? Is he like a cat, 9 lives? Is this a Princess Bride type deal - "there's a difference between all the way dead, and mostly dead, and it happens, your friend is only mostly dead"... In an episode full of wtaf, this was the biggest shock, for me. I've been waiting this entire time but I sure as fuck didn't expect it to happen like that. I just knew he wasn't dead. The episode of him surviving calculating a stampede fermented it for me. I have no clue how he did it; he does seem to look like he drowned and came back rather than something new, or not having been drowned at all. Entirely possible he/Kalle knew the teeps method of execution ahead of time so Hari had preventative measures "installed..." Empire/Trantor We knew the Cleon line was capable of immense cruelty, and being a robot, I guess the 'line' is probably in a different place for her, but this was an example of cruelty unlike anything we've seen in this show before. I am assuming that Demerzel received some kind of Push notification that someone was in her old room...? and that is why she's bailing on Day, and calling out his bullshit. Push notification seems likely. This Day went nuclear so I guess she is too. Jig is up with Dusk and she knows that too if she's responding with alacrity. That leaves... lil shit Dawn and Dominion in quite the spot. I still think he sent the assassins. (Possibly influenced by Dem to do it.)
*** So, ninth episode: I'm willing to speculate that Day and Demerzel are still inside the Vault Meaning that the events after they entered are a simulation? I certainly wouldn't put it past Seldon to do that, but I'm not sure to what purpose. I'm on the fence. It's a lot of screen-time and development to toss away but the timing of when Hari shows Demerzel the Radiant in the vault is suspect. He says something along the lines of, "let me show you a crystal ball" then the next scene cuts to the start of this doomsday ending. It could be the Radiant showing Dem this for some reason. Sounded like Hari was really dealing with her while placating or ignoring Day.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 11, 2023 5:16:42 GMT
Spoilers for the spoiler gods So...uh...that was really...something. Terminus I had always assumed that 'Second Foundation' was an institution run in conjunction with OG Foundation.
I guess this means it follows the original...
I thought the Invictus was supposed to be this all conquering super ship? Or is it simply too old to compete with the newer vessels?
I can see the Invictus going down simply because it's that ancient. Grand old lady or some-such. What surprised me is that Glawen did a deathstar run on it. Seemed like a design oversight kinda kill rather that bringing her down. Also... those did not look like concussion mines. That was like a tractor-beam of death. (Very purdy though.) The Psychopath Ding dong, the witch is dead. Not a moment too soon, either.
Barry? I have questions. Is his new body immortal? Is he like a cat, 9 lives? Is this a Princess Bride type deal - "there's a difference between all the way dead, and mostly dead, and it happens, your friend is only mostly dead"... In an episode full of wtaf, this was the biggest shock, for me. I've been waiting this entire time but I sure as fuck didn't expect it to happen like that. I just knew he wasn't dead. The episode of him surviving calculating a stampede fermented it for me. I have no clue how he did it; he does seem to look like he drowned and came back rather than something new, or not having been drowned at all. Entirely possible he/Kalle knew the teeps method of execution ahead of time so Hari had preventative measures "installed..." Barry Works for me. But shit - it was a surprise. I suppose it shouldn't have been, given how deeply the series has gone on how programmeable the human mind (and by extension, body) is. Death seems to be something of a suggestion at this point, as long as there is a body and a brain to work with afterwards. Terminus Yeah, this is pretty much why I am open to the idea. "Let me show you something"...and then Day is wandering out.
Doesn't explain how Demerzel got the Push notification, if she is still inside the vault, witnessing a possible future (unless psychohistory has accounted for Dusk and his GF finding Dem's prison cell). Unless that discovery is an Inflection Point (is that the term?), of course.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 11, 2023 20:54:19 GMT
Doesn't explain how Demerzel got the Push notification, if she is still inside the vault, witnessing a possible future (unless psychohistory has accounted for Dusk and his GF finding Dem's prison cell). Unless that discovery is an Inflection Point (is that the term?), of course. Wondered how that fit in when you mentioned it earlier. It seems a stretch to predict that specific event from what's been roughly established so far. Dunno. Good on them if it's intentional and got us guessing though. (I think Inflection Point was the term yarp.) Last ep this season will either have a lot of ground to cover, or very little, making room for the new. Man, Telem or Tellem whatever, evil teep granny, I definitely didn't get soulbreaking bodysnatcher from her at the beginning. Makes me wonder what her sheeple will end up as. Gaal might be able to take over if she can use the inroads Salvor made with the kid, but that's a stretch. But then again she gets her Mentallics in the future so? I'unno. And yeah, Hari's comeback, which I was expecting, still shocked me in the moment. Did not expect, "HERE'S JOHNNY!" and Teep brain explodes. I do like his sense of humour though, rare as it is he's one of the few that gets a laugh. "Never liked her much" or something to that effect. I'm looking forward to the further B.S. Hari's going to be slinging when Gaal/Salvor get their hooks in him after the niceties. 110% Gaal will use the phrase, verbatim, "I felt you die!" Hari will then say something like, "had to sell the plan" but what he's really saying is, "we don't tell Planwreckers anything anymore since you came along and frankly I like Salvor more anyways so thanks for being our dupe."
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 15, 2023 15:03:03 GMT
I need to watch the season finale asap!
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Post by skekSil on Sept 15, 2023 18:16:14 GMT
I suspected that they would not dare to kill of the First Foundation that is why I suggested my simulation theory, I could not have imagined the showrunners to be so bold to pull an actual Deus Ex Machina. And that was not the only asspull in this episode. Overall I can't really say it was a bad episode but it did fail to live up to the hype created by the previous one for me.
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 16, 2023 8:14:55 GMT
About the finale.. It wasn't bad per se, but it felt disjointed, again. And it's never a good thing, when you have to explain what happened.
Needless to say, none of this happened in the books.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 16, 2023 17:53:18 GMT
Well then... end of S2 below. Overall, not great. Great moments, but they pulled some shit and stretched it. Apparently not a fake out sim. I would've liked that better methinks. Does lend the previous episode a bit more, gravitas. Moving on... *** Gaal once again gets shoehorned into being useful. So it was a teep trick. A long exhausting teep trick that works when they're asleep too it seems. This was quite the stretch. Gaal also hit that trope wherein great power is misrepresented as great skill. She picked up how to fool Tellem in a couple weeks. What Tellem has done in... lifetimes. Actually, that's not accurate, she would've had to pick it up earlier, when Hari "died". This wasn't quite the explanation I was hoping for. But it's Gaal so... can't expect too much. Oh wow, I was wondering earlier how they'd get the mentallics. That got hand-waved a bit too. It's all Tellem's fault = just following orders. Rather amusing the way they pick up their faith and drop it in someone else's lap though. Sheeple indeed. Salvor buys it. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! At least the future is uncertain. I knew she had an expiry but oh well. I liked her even if she was just a conflict-bouncy-wall for Gaal/Hari this season. Anyone else get the hunch the dirty-blonde girl with the throat tattoo and braids got Tellem'd at the end there? The kid says he feels her weak but fighting and the girl seemed weirdly... prominent in terms of screen-time for a tertiary rando. I don't think so but a hackle or two is up. *** Okay. Back to Empire. Dunno if it's a Rogue One reference or not but Day's "beautiful" comment as Terminus breaks took me right back there when the Death Star single-reactor hit Jeddha. Krenik Shaw's, "oh, it's beautiful." Demerzel sells it, and continues to be my favourite. You could say her and Dusk had a, touching moment, at the end there. Whether she loves him now or not, I think she did. They make a point of saying Dem had a moment before he put the chip in where she could've killed him and run. She didn't. Spacers rebelling, didn't know how it'd happen but I knew it would eventually. They were too obvious a weakness in Empire's overall strength not too. I wonder how the Spacers will fair on their own. Seems like they'd be the ones ruling an empire. Day's fight with Riose. "I fucking love it!" Me too Day. That shit was lively. This is how a tyrant goes down. Day even uses Riose's head to open the airlock by smashing it into the console, fucking brilliant. Castling Device is established and didn't feel like a stretchy resolution. (Compared to other aspects of the show.) Riose, "I got to shove Day out an airlock." Mmmm... not sure that's true. He got to do the shoving.
"To Beki's Asshole!"
So lil shit Dawn wasn't in on it, Dem did it herself. That's more "wiggle room" than I was expecting her to have. I figured she'd need to work through one of the brothers as an intermediary. Ho hum. Guess we won't see it but I wonder how that plays out. Empire vs Dominion war, an Imperial Civil war, or do they go into hiding and fade away?
*** Foundation's survival + Ending:
Unexpected but the pieces were there. I can live with this one, it's not too much of a stretch. They've explained that things can be bigger on the inside, both in the Vault and on the Spacers Ships. It's shown it can seemingly "teleport" people into it as well, they just never showed a range to it. (It was always a few steps from the door more or less.)
Poly didn't have to make a sacrifice play, didn't expect that. And he survived. Glawen too for that matter. He gon be mad.
Hari and Gaal's "long sleep". They have to have a show with a main cast so... that had to happen in some way to keep the story going. Not great, but whatever. Necessary plot device. Just letting the sheeple keep up with their faithesizing. Gotta find a use for it I guess.
Mule at the end, soliloquy or was he telling someone that?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 16, 2023 21:32:13 GMT
S2E10 It seems like I liked it more than others, but that's OK. Like how skekSil 's vault theory was "this close", too. Ga'al/Salvor/Barry This was the poor side of the episode. I was fine with Hari's resurrection...more or less. The connection with Ga'al allowed her to wake him(/sustain him?) since there is a difference between all the way dead, and mostly dead. I was less fine with how Ga'al was suddenly a master of mentalics. I was very much not fine with Salvor getting shitcanned like that. Not so much the method (or even the plot reason), but the need to believe that Psycho Bitch could've just body jumped into the kid like that. Her head was mush within seconds. Given the whole sand moving ceremony needed for Ga'al, I just don't buy that. Trantor Push Notification! Nice.
It was Demerzel all along *whistles the tune - you all know it*
The programming in the Cleons goes deep. Dusk was lucid enough to know that they were dead the moment they stepped into the room, and to mark Dem with the green paint, but still loved her. To the end. Rue deserved better. #JusticeForRue
Confused about C17 (seasons Dawn) and Dominion. Are they running to be a free, young family together? Are they going to attempt to rule in absentia?
C18, 19 and 20 are going to be the most under the thumb any Empire has been since the start. And if the time jump has the genetic dynasty still in power, then it will only get worse from there. Terminus This, I liked.
Hober Mallow, Master Trader did not fail to make a deal. He made a deal so good that the leader of the Spacers sacrificed her own daughter to see it through. Maybe get him in on the Writers and Actors strike?
Day was a proud fool, brought down by his ego. Yes, let's take the ENTIRE FLEET to a planet that has found a way to surpass Empire technologically despite being on the edge of known space. The Bait and Switch tech from Hober was very nicely done.
Do ordinary people age inside the Vault? How many people are going to emerge from there in 152 years? Bigger on the inside, indeed.
To Becky's asshole. A fitting end for two heroes. One redeemed, twice over. One misunderstood and then vindicated.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Sept 16, 2023 22:08:17 GMT
DKR↓ Maybe get him in on the Writers and Actors strike? lol, now you mention it, it's going to take a while to get S3 I imagine. DawnDom, that's what I'm wondering too. That basically leads to either a Dominion War early, or a Civil war 'bit later. Alternatively I'd be pleasantly surprised if we just got a brief mention next season that they did indeed live happily ever after in hiding. That'd be a lateral move. Do the Cleons actually have the capacity to change and become better? Wait, was it the entire fleet? I think that might be "a lot" or "most" rather than all. "All" of a fleet is a logistical impossibility. Do ordinary people age inside the Vault? How many people are going to emerge from there in 152 years? Bigger on the inside, indeed. I don't think the vault is going into the future. Could be wrong but I don't think that's the plan. They're just relocating presumably? Maybe to that planet orbiting a black hole or something? Still not sure wtf was up with that. Barry/Gaal were the ones going to sleep but I assumed the Foundation was going to be up and running again (relatively) shortly.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 16, 2023 23:51:21 GMT
DKR↓ Maybe get him in on the Writers and Actors strike? lol, now you mention it, it's going to take a while to get S3 I imagine. DawnDom, that's what I'm wondering too. That basically leads to either a Dominion War early, or a Civil war 'bit later. Alternatively I'd be pleasantly surprised if we just got a brief mention next season that they did indeed live happily ever after in hiding. That'd be a lateral move. Do the Cleons actually have the capacity to change and become better? Wait, was it the entire fleet? I think that might be "a lot" or "most" rather than all. "All" of a fleet is a logistical impossibility. Do ordinary people age inside the Vault? How many people are going to emerge from there in 152 years? Bigger on the inside, indeed. I don't think the vault is going into the future. Could be wrong but I don't think that's the plan. They're just relocating presumably? Maybe to that planet orbiting a black hole or something? Still not sure wtf was up with that. Barry/Gaal were the ones going to sleep but I assumed the Foundation was going to be up and running again (relatively) shortly. Re: the fleet. I was sure that was what Day said when deciding to leave Trantor, and I thought the Spacer said it as well. fugitives.com/the-destruction-of-terminus-in-foundation-season2-2023-series/#:~:text=Using%20his%20pragmatic%20mind%20and,of%20his%20fleet%20to%20Terminus. A footnote mention next season of Dawn and Dom would be an interesting pivot for the show. Important Things Are Usually Important. But they're showing the capacity to surprise, so maybe..? Foundation: Yeah, they could just be relocating, which would make more sense. Those people still have to be fed, but I wouldn't put it past the show to have First Foundation be outside of time while Second Foundation is growing and finding its feet. Hari and Ga'al are building an army with 2nd, and they already have the scientists/believers with 1st. Letting those people develop further tech and the like outside of the eye of Dem would be a classic Hari flex.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 21, 2023 6:32:08 GMT
i m starting the show and loved ep1 and 2. Ep 3. was useless though, i m a bit puzzled how they killed their narrative at the end of ep.2 to start fresh in ep.3. also i dont remember shit from the books, and i think my mother ditched them a long time ago, too bad, i would have start reading them to my kids.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Nov 5, 2023 14:09:20 GMT
well, i m a bit puzzled, disappointed and a bit lost, but clearly entertained so i guess they did their job to cover up for their poor writing . Is it the same in the books, with psycho-history depending in the end on 2-3 nominative chars, seldon being part of it !? I really like the characters, too bad the story isnt up to it. (except Gall being too egocentric and emotive and getting other "once in a trillion" aptitudes). i still have the last episode to watch though
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Post by rewindbutton on Nov 5, 2023 15:08:35 GMT
Is it the same in the books No, unfortunately the show has very little to do with the books. It is entertaining nonetheless.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Nov 5, 2023 15:55:36 GMT
(except Gall being too egocentric and emotive and getting other "once in a trillion" aptitudes). I don't like the Plan-wrecker either.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Nov 6, 2023 13:52:10 GMT
(except Gall being too egocentric and emotive and getting other "once in a trillion" aptitudes). I don't like the Plan-wrecker either. an annoying character is sometimes acceptable or even good for the story, but here, it s really too much imo, i cant stand some of the scenes with her . Gives me time to grab a drink or piss though.
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Gives me time to grab a drink or piss though.
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Post by AnDromedary on Nov 21, 2023 17:36:04 GMT
Ok, after a bit of a break I finished season 2, finally. Don't actually have that much to say about it. It continues to hang in there. Basically, it's just barely good enough not to quit watching it but as a book reader, I keep being frustrated. But even if I try to view it as an independent scifi series (which it isn't because it uses all the names and stuff), I gotta say, especially the last episode made it very medicore. Before the last episode, I knida kept hoping they had a half way decent resolution for all the weird stuff they pulled before. A fool's hope maybe but still hope. Episode 9 was intriguing mainly because it shocked us and therefore left us in anticipation of a satisfying resolution of all that weirdness. But predictably, the writers are no genious master minds who played the long game. The "resolutions" we get seem slapped together and barely make sense (if even that) or are tacked on to "make it work" somehow, using one deus ex machina after the other. The final episode really was that disappointing. The best of the three major storylines is - as usual - the one about all the machinations in the Empire. There is some genuinely cools tuff happening there and I am interested to see how that one develops. There are many plausible ways this could go on in a future season and most of them are interesting. The Terminus arc was not without it's upsides for sure. It had some likable characters (a couple of which were killed off) and some cool, shocking moments in the middle but the resolution with a quite literal deus ex machina at the end was really pissing me off. Also, just from a technical point of view: What is the Vault exactly? I seem to remember (not 100% sure) in season 1 Seldom said that he basically built it (aka a machine that would transform his coffin into it). Until now, I thought when people were "in the vault" they were seeing stuff mostly in their head, meaning that the vault could affect brain waves or something (like with the null field) and therefore make people think they were "in it" and show them Seldon, a huge environment and whatnot. But now it turns out it's a real space after all. So how did Seldon construct and build a Tardis ripoff out of thin air? Is he such a great engineer as well that he could construct some completely new tech like this? I felt they established him as a fairly pure theorist.
I mean, I don't know, maybe it will be revealed next season that the Terminus colonists are not really alive anymore but are also uploaded consciousnesses now or something? But then, Constant's escape pod could fly into there and land there, so that would suggest it really is real. And if it is real and they can now build larger spaces inside small spaces, that would have pretty huge consequences as well but I am sure they'll just ignore it and use this device for what it is, a convenient deus ex machina, when they've written themselves into a corner again. The worst resolution definitely happened on the telepath planet though. Frankly, I didn't even understand it. So first of all, I distinctly remember the witch lady watching Hari (Bari) drown all the way a few episodes before. They were all standing there looking, as Hari struggled and then went still. So when exactly did this whole thing with the guard and the body swap happen? Did Hari remain still for a while and held his breath for half an hour until everyone except one guard (what was he for?) left? Or did Gaal somehow mask the entire thing from the others sight, including the boss witch? I just didn't get it.
See, here is the problem with this entire arc IMO: They made their entire story telling completely meaningless. If - as an audience - I can not be sure that what I see on screen is ever real, if I cannot trust anything anymore, why should I even watch it? They killed any kind of reliable exposition and therefore any motive for em to care about what I see. And if the author wants to tell us a story about characters we should be invested in but they show us again and again that a characters (apparent) death is entirely meaningless, then why should I care if anyone dies? They removed all the stakes and therefor killed my motivation to even be invested in the story because it can all flip the next episode anyway.
Kill a main character? Ah, his mind was uploaded, oh, not once but twice ... and he also gets a new body. Kill that character again? Ah, he survived again because it was all some mind trick and what we showed you wasn't real. Kill an entire planet? No worries. Everyone survived in the magic floating thingy. Kill the evil main villain lady? No no, she miraculously survived contrary to everything we had just established about her by ad hoc mind jumping to some rando boy.
I mean, seriously, when Salvor dies in the last episode, my first thought absolutely was "whatever, she's probably gonna be back somehow." So yeah, this show has a serious issue with following through with the consequences of the all the grandiose things it wants to show uss and therefore these things become entirely meaningless. Oh and by the way, I also didn't get the final plan that Hari and Gall went through with at the end. The one Seldon explains first makes some sense (Gaal goes into cryo while he stays up and trains up the mentalics). But what's the new one now? Did I get that right? They both go into cryo, let the sheeple alone, so they can form a religion around those two and what? Will they wake up once a year now to impart some wisdom on these folks or what's going on? Also, why would the sheeple form a new religion around them? When they came to the Beggar after the (first) death of the witch lady and when they were free of her control, they seemed pretty done with the whole religion thing, no? So why start it back up with two people in cryo pods, whom they know are just people? So yeah, that whole last episode made no sense whatsoever to me on the mentalics front. Absolutely horrible horrible writing. On the plus side, the season as a whole really had some gorgeous visuals. Really gotta give 'em that. Those, the imperial plotline and some pretty decent acting by some of the cast juuust pull this up to 6/10 resurrections for me but still, the whole thing is frustrating as hell.
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Post by rewindbutton on Nov 24, 2023 10:39:55 GMT
What is the Vault exactly? I'm guessing that the Vault is a construct utilizing advanced quantum mechanics, completely detached from space-time. a convenient deus ex machina But this too. and he also gets a new body I'm pretty certain he's a telepathic robot by now. Probably a very powerful one, which is going to be problematic later on, I'd wager. So why start it back up with two people in cryo pods, whom they know are just people? Gods, who are just people, can be very compelling. the whole thing is frustrating as hell. Yeah, it is what it is. All we can do is watch.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Nov 28, 2023 12:54:40 GMT
Lol, i still haven't watch the last episode, and seems i ll leave it untouched , at least for now.
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