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Post by shaqfu on Apr 7, 2021 22:56:47 GMT
I'll be waiting for a good sale on the pc version and to see how well any current mods convert over to it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 8, 2021 15:32:56 GMT
At this point, nowhere. I'll wait to see about mods. Not broken up about the Pinnacle DLC though I happen to like the game to have it all. The hoops I had to go through to get it and BDtS were ridiculous. If not for the old social.bioware.com site (which is something completely different now) I'd never have found those mods. Yeah i'm no ttoo broken up about Pnnacle being missin either tbh. Mainl ybecause if I feel like doing a playthrough where I do wantto do the Pinnacle Station DLC all I have to do i sinstal my original cop yas I'll probably keep them in case I do. Especially as the LE fo rPC i sonl ylikel yavailable throug hdigital platforms means I won' thav them cluttering any shel fspace anyway swo keeping the originals isn't likel ygoin gto be a problem. I'll probably be waiting a little while before I start playing but mainly for cheats so I cqan continue to play the Overlord DLC because I usea chea tfor dealing with the Geth cannon My understanding is that mods will have to be recreated to work on the LE. I just read an article about the readiness score will be significantly altered. I'm guessing the N7HQ.com website won't be useful for the LE. What I did read is that playing all three games and all missions will contribute to higher galactic readiness. That's something new that ties the games together in a more concrete way. We knew certain things, like Dinilaga's writings, factored in down the line. Just as the fate of Maelon's cure and Maelon himself. Even Wrex being alive is a greater impact than having Wreav in place. Jack dead? Those biotic kids are toast. A freaking armor license in ME1 has an impact. I know these are little things but they add up.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 8, 2021 16:42:43 GMT
Yeah i'm no ttoo broken up about Pnnacle being missin either tbh. Mainl ybecause if I feel like doing a playthrough where I do wantto do the Pinnacle Station DLC all I have to do i sinstal my original cop yas I'll probably keep them in case I do. Especially as the LE fo rPC i sonl ylikel yavailable throug hdigital platforms means I won' thav them cluttering any shel fspace anyway swo keeping the originals isn't likel ygoin gto be a problem. I'll probably be waiting a little while before I start playing but mainly for cheats so I cqan continue to play the Overlord DLC because I usea chea tfor dealing with the Geth cannon My understanding is that mods will have to be recreated to work on the LE. I just read an article about the readiness score will be significantly altered. I'm guessing the N7HQ.com website won't be useful for the LE. What I did read is that playing all three games and all missions will contribute to higher galactic readiness. That's something new that ties the games together in a more concrete way. We knew certain things, like Dinilaga's writings, factored in down the line. Just as the fate of Maelon's cure and Maelon himself. Even Wrex being alive is a greater impact than having Wreav in place. Jack dead? Those biotic kids are toast. A freaking armor license in ME1 has an impact. I know these are little things but they add up. Yeah I know mods will a swi9ll an ycheats which is why I'm going to wait a while before getting it I deo know the people tha tworked on the cheats I use in ME2 for example are going t owork on som efor the LE but obviously the game needs t ocome out first befoer that can happen. But yeah I suspect they will ditch the N7 HQ eventually. I don' t thin it'll bother m etoo much though as I don't use it on every playthrough I really mainl yuse it to get Hackett asyin gsomething other than this isn' t looking good if you know what I mkean when asking him abou tthe readiness in ME3. But yeah it is good they are tying it al up into the single player now because tbh they should have done that from the beginning. If I want to hear something different than this isn't lookin ggood a tthat stage it'l just be a case of playing the LE
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Post by themikefest on Apr 8, 2021 17:14:09 GMT
Yeah i'm no ttoo broken up about Pnnacle being missin either tbh. Mainl ybecause if I feel like doing a playthrough where I do wantto do the Pinnacle Station DLC all I have to do i sinstal my original cop yas I'll probably keep them in case I do. Especially as the LE fo rPC i sonl ylikel yavailable throug hdigital platforms means I won' thav them cluttering any shel fspace anyway swo keeping the originals isn't likel ygoin gto be a problem. I'll probably be waiting a little while before I start playing but mainly for cheats so I cqan continue to play the Overlord DLC because I usea chea tfor dealing with the Geth cannon My understanding is that mods will have to be recreated to work on the LE. I just read an article about the readiness score will be significantly altered. I'm guessing the N7HQ.com website won't be useful for the LE. What I did read is that playing all three games and all missions will contribute to higher galactic readiness. That's something new that ties the games together in a more concrete way. We knew certain things, like Dinilaga's writings, factored in down the line. Just as the fate of Maelon's cure and Maelon himself. Even Wrex being alive is a greater impact than having Wreav in place. Jack dead? Those biotic kids are toast. A freaking armor license in ME1 has an impact. I know these are little things but they add up. Yes doing the little things do add up, but for me, it's about doing as little as possible while still getting the best ending, the breath scene. Having galactic readiness higher than 50% means doing less to get the best ending. It add's replay value. As I said in another thread, I like to repeat a lot of my previous playthroughs. I know I'm looking forward to doing one of my favorite playthroughs, the one in my signature. excellent.
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Post by jclosed on Apr 8, 2021 18:33:01 GMT
Where I going to buy it? Nowhere...
I already played that stuff to death. It where brilliant games years ago, and they still really are, but I played it just too many times. You know that feeling when having overeaten something too many times and you just can't stomach it any longer? Yep - That happened to me with the ME trilogy. Giving it another color but keeping the same taste won't change anything. I completely had it with that Shepard figure. Maybe sad, but that's the way it is.
That was the reason I liked ME:A. Finally not another "flawless" superhero, but an uncertain young person that get a lot dumped on him/her out of the blue, and is anything but flawless. That uncertainty lead to sometimes stupid actions and jokes, but that makes the MC only more human. I liked it a lot. And that makes it even more difficult, if not impossible, to go back to that more one-dimensional Shepard figure.
Maybe I buy this game when I find it somewhere in the garbage bin for a few cents. Otherwise - Nah.. I wait until Mass Effect 5. Unless they revive Zombie Shepard in that game again. In that case it's also only the garbage bin.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 8, 2021 19:13:35 GMT
Where I going to buy it? Nowhere... I already played that stuff to death. It where brilliant games years ago, and they still really are, but I played it just too many times. You know that feeling when having overeaten something too many times and you just can't stomach it any longer? Yep - That happened to me with the ME trilogy. Giving it another color but keeping the same taste won't change anything. I completely had it with that Shepard figure. Maybe sad, but that's the way it is. That was the reason I liked ME:A. Finally not another "flawless" superhero, but an uncertain young person that get a lot dumped on him/her out of the blue, and is anything but flawless. That uncertainty lead to sometimes stupid actions and jokes, but that makes the MC only more human. I liked it a lot. And that makes it even more difficult, if not impossible, to go back to that more one-dimensional Shepard figure. Maybe I buy this game when I find it somewhere in the garbage bin for a few cents. Otherwise - Nah.. I wait until Mass Effect 5. Unless they revive Zombie Shepard in that game again. In that case it's also only the garbage bin. Calling Shepard a flawless superhero is not of a stretch don't you think? After all, Shepard did lose to that second rate wannabe cyborg ninja Kai Leng....
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Post by themikefest on Apr 8, 2021 19:17:41 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win?
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Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? Depends o nyour point of view tbh. Undre control the Reapres are under Shepards control the ydo as he/she bids dso no need to destroy them any more. Synthesis kind of merges all life together. I wouldn' tcall any of the options losing. For m eit's like Starchild says we need t ofin dan alternative to stop this madness from continuing. You're jus tthe one to mak etha tdecision as to how to bring that about. At least that's how I see it.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 8, 2021 20:46:32 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side...
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 8, 2021 21:27:58 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... Yea hbasically as I see i trefusal is the on;ly losing option becaus echoosing refuasl meaqns you d nothing whic hcfonde4mns the cycfle to extinction like the Protheans.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 9, 2021 0:22:23 GMT
Refusal would be a loss, you can die at the end of ME2. You can't save both Ash and Kaiden, when the terrorists take the missile silo you can't stop both missiles, BDTS you can't both capture the terrorist and save the hostages. He has quite a few not a mary sue moments. And in video games they are generally not designed for you to lose, I'd say he takes a L more often than most action protagonists.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 9, 2021 1:20:16 GMT
My understanding is that mods will have to be recreated to work on the LE. I just read an article about the readiness score will be significantly altered. I'm guessing the N7HQ.com website won't be useful for the LE. What I did read is that playing all three games and all missions will contribute to higher galactic readiness. That's something new that ties the games together in a more concrete way. We knew certain things, like Dinilaga's writings, factored in down the line. Just as the fate of Maelon's cure and Maelon himself. Even Wrex being alive is a greater impact than having Wreav in place. Jack dead? Those biotic kids are toast. A freaking armor license in ME1 has an impact. I know these are little things but they add up. Yeah I know mods will a swi9ll an ycheats which is why I'm going to wait a while before getting it I deo know the people tha tworked on the cheats I use in ME2 for example are going t owork on som efor the LE but obviously the game needs t ocome out first befoer that can happen. But yeah I suspect they will ditch the N7 HQ eventually. I don' t thin it'll bother m etoo much though as I don't use it on every playthrough I really mainl yuse it to get Hackett asyin gsomething other than this isn' t looking good if you know what I mkean when asking him abou tthe readiness in ME3. But yeah it is good they are tying it al up into the single player now because tbh they should have done that from the beginning. If I want to hear something different than this isn't lookin ggood a tthat stage it'l just be a case of playing the LE If I can't cheat a relationship with Kaidan I'm basically out. I'm assuming console commands from ME1, which allowed for a gender swap, wouldn't work, either. Until Rondeeno decides to take care of it, I have no interest. I can just play the existing games.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 9, 2021 1:35:08 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... The Reapers spent a billion years causing genocide for countless races. All Reapers. We execute for that sort of thing and have unquestionably prevented them from doing so again. Can you guarantee that with Control or Synthesis? You actually can't and there's no reason to believe that synthesized Reapers won't find a reason to exterminate other races. It's a thing they know and just because organics and synthetics aren't going head-to-head it doesn't mean peace reigns in the galaxy. Control, well, I still have my doubts that any being should have that much power. No, I think removing them from the board is the best option.
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most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... The Reapers spent a billion years causing genocide for countless races. All Reapers. We execute for that sort of thing and have unquestionably prevented them from doing so again. Can you guarantee that with Control or Synthesis? You actually can't and there's no reason to believe that synthesized Reapers won't find a reason to exterminate other races. It's a thing they know and just because organics and synthetics aren't going head-to-head it doesn't mean peace reigns in the galaxy. Control, well, I still have my doubts that any being should have that much power. No, I think removing them from the board is the best option. To bhe fair you can ju8st about pla ywhat if's wit han yscenario though. After all the Reapers aren' t the only ones responsible for wiping out entire species. Let's not forget wha thte Krogan did to the Rachni among other things hec kwe've even don eit ourselves t ospecies on our own planet. So even we aer guilty of bad things in those circumstances.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2021 1:56:30 GMT
Yeah I know mods will a swi9ll an ycheats which is why I'm going to wait a while before getting it I deo know the people tha tworked on the cheats I use in ME2 for example are going t owork on som efor the LE but obviously the game needs t ocome out first befoer that can happen. But yeah I suspect they will ditch the N7 HQ eventually. I don' t thin it'll bother m etoo much though as I don't use it on every playthrough I really mainl yuse it to get Hackett asyin gsomething other than this isn' t looking good if you know what I mkean when asking him abou tthe readiness in ME3. But yeah it is good they are tying it al up into the single player now because tbh they should have done that from the beginning. If I want to hear something different than this isn't lookin ggood a tthat stage it'l just be a case of playing the LE If I can't cheat a relationship with Kaidan I'm basically out. I'm assuming console commands from ME1, which allowed for a gender swap, wouldn't work, either. Until Rondeeno decides to take care of it, I have no interest. I can just play the existing games. Yea hthat's pretty much my plaqn stick tto the original till the new cheats arrive a tleast I know they plan to work on i tas I asked and the ysaid they were or a tleast they plan to. But clearly the game needs to come out first before any of this can be done.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 9, 2021 14:42:43 GMT
The Reapers spent a billion years causing genocide for countless races. All Reapers. We execute for that sort of thing and have unquestionably prevented them from doing so again. Can you guarantee that with Control or Synthesis? You actually can't and there's no reason to believe that synthesized Reapers won't find a reason to exterminate other races. It's a thing they know and just because organics and synthetics aren't going head-to-head it doesn't mean peace reigns in the galaxy. Control, well, I still have my doubts that any being should have that much power. No, I think removing them from the board is the best option. To bhe fair you can ju8st about pla ywhat if's wit han yscenario though. After all the Reapers aren' t the only ones responsible for wiping out entire species. Let's not forget wha thte Krogan did to the Rachni among other things hec kwe've even don eit ourselves t ospecies on our own planet. So even we aer guilty of bad things in those circumstances. Maybe responsible for wiping out "a" species. Wiping out a billion years worth? If there were one species per cycle vanishing from existence, that would be the end of 2000 races. Now multiply it by what is in the "present day" MW and that brings us to 12,000. Now imagine each race has 10 billion sentients on them (not too far off from that now) and we get into numbers well beyond counting. The numbers are there. They are the epitome of evil with the ME universe. (I was going to go on by comparing them to Hitler and Stalin but I don't think the details are necessary.)
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2021 14:46:53 GMT
If I can't cheat a relationship with Kaidan I'm basically out. I'm assuming console commands from ME1, which allowed for a gender swap, wouldn't work, either. Until Rondeeno decides to take care of it, I have no interest. I can just play the existing games. Yea hthat's pretty much my plaqn stick tto the original till the new cheats arrive a tleast I know they plan to work on i tas I asked and the ysaid they were or a tleast they plan to. But clearly the game needs to come out first before any of this can be done. If I do get it befoer the cheat is ready though I'll likely just skip Overlord anyway jus tfor a playthrough or 2 until it is. Besides I have considered doing a playthrough wher I skip 1 or 2 of the DLC's to see how it affects the main story whilst having them installed.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 9, 2021 14:48:24 GMT
I was buying some other stuff in a Green man Gaming sale and they had MELE for preorder with a 12% discount compared to the Origin price, so I got it there (because I want to play it May anyway).
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2021 14:51:10 GMT
To bhe fair you can ju8st about pla ywhat if's wit han yscenario though. After all the Reapers aren' t the only ones responsible for wiping out entire species. Let's not forget wha thte Krogan did to the Rachni among other things hec kwe've even don eit ourselves t ospecies on our own planet. So even we aer guilty of bad things in those circumstances. Maybe responsible for wiping out "a" species. Wiping out a billion years worth? If there were one species per cycle vanishing from existence, that would be the end of 2000 races. Now multiply it by what is in the "present day" MW and that brings us to 12,000. Now imagine each race has 10 billion sentients on them (not too far off from that now) and we get into numbers well beyond counting. The numbers are there. They are the epitome of evil with the ME universe. (I was going to go on by comparing them to Hitler and Stalin but I don't think the details are necessary.) As far as I am concerned they were programmed that way whereas no wwith Shepard in control the yfollow his or her directives he o rshe ca nreprogrsm them so they no longer are a threat unde rthe control ending but then that's how I read it asnywa yand how my headcannon works for the end of the Reaper War
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 9, 2021 15:18:32 GMT
Maybe responsible for wiping out "a" species. Wiping out a billion years worth? If there were one species per cycle vanishing from existence, that would be the end of 2000 races. Now multiply it by what is in the "present day" MW and that brings us to 12,000. Now imagine each race has 10 billion sentients on them (not too far off from that now) and we get into numbers well beyond counting. The numbers are there. They are the epitome of evil with the ME universe. (I was going to go on by comparing them to Hitler and Stalin but I don't think the details are necessary.) As far as I am concerned they were programmed that way whereas no wwith Shepard in control the yfollow his or her directives he o rshe ca nreprogrsm them so they no longer are a threat unde rthe control ending but then that's how I read it asnywa yand how my headcannon works for the end of the Reaper War But their master, Starkid, wasn't. It choose to do the harvests because it couldn't or wouldn't think of a better alternative.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2021 15:55:00 GMT
As far as I am concerned they were programmed that way whereas no wwith Shepard in control the yfollow his or her directives he o rshe ca nreprogrsm them so they no longer are a threat unde rthe control ending but then that's how I read it asnywa yand how my headcannon works for the end of the Reaper War But their master, Starkid, wasn't. It choose to do the harvests because it couldn't or wouldn't think of a better alternative. Doeswnj' tmeqawn Shepard can't though
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Post by themikefest on Apr 9, 2021 16:10:46 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... Really? So you're going to let the reapers off the hook for harvesting x number of civilizations? As Anderson says, We destroy them, or they destroy us. most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... The Reapers spent a billion years causing genocide for countless races. All Reapers. We execute for that sort of thing and have unquestionably prevented them from doing so again. Can you guarantee that with Control or Synthesis? You actually can't and there's no reason to believe that synthesized Reapers won't find a reason to exterminate other races. It's a thing they know and just because organics and synthetics aren't going head-to-head it doesn't mean peace reigns in the galaxy. Control, well, I still have my doubts that any being should have that much power. No, I think removing them from the board is the best option. Yep. Wipe them out. No need to worry about what might happen with the green and blue. Maybe responsible for wiping out "a" species. Wiping out a billion years worth? If there were one species per cycle vanishing from existence, that would be the end of 2000 races. Now multiply it by what is in the "present day" MW and that brings us to 12,000. Now imagine each race has 10 billion sentients on them (not too far off from that now) and we get into numbers well beyond counting. The numbers are there. They are the epitome of evil with the ME universe. (I was going to go on by comparing them to Hitler and Stalin but I don't think the details are necessary.) As far as I am concerned they were programmed that way whereas no wwith Shepard in control the yfollow his or her directives he o rshe ca nreprogrsm them so they no longer are a threat unde rthe control ending but then that's how I read it asnywa yand how my headcannon works for the end of the Reaper War And what's to prevent thing part 2, the former human called Shepard, from deciding thing part 1 was right? Thing part 2 has no shackles like the first thing didn't have any.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2021 16:43:58 GMT
most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... Really? So you're going to let the reapers off the hook for harvesting x number of civilizations? As Anderson says, We destroy them, or they destroy us. The Reapers spent a billion years causing genocide for countless races. All Reapers. We execute for that sort of thing and have unquestionably prevented them from doing so again. Can you guarantee that with Control or Synthesis? You actually can't and there's no reason to believe that synthesized Reapers won't find a reason to exterminate other races. It's a thing they know and just because organics and synthetics aren't going head-to-head it doesn't mean peace reigns in the galaxy. Control, well, I still have my doubts that any being should have that much power. No, I think removing them from the board is the best option. Yep. Wipe them out. No need to worry about what might happen with the green and blue. As far as I am concerned they were programmed that way whereas no wwith Shepard in control the yfollow his or her directives he o rshe ca nreprogrsm them so they no longer are a threat unde rthe control ending but then that's how I read it asnywa yand how my headcannon works for the end of the Reaper War And what's to prevent thing part 2, the former human called Shepard, from deciding thing part 1 was right? Thing part 2 has no shackles like the first thing didn't have any. Nothing but i tdoesn't meqan they will.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 9, 2021 16:47:01 GMT
Nothing but i tdoesn't meqan they will. I'm sure Leviathan thought the same.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 17:13:08 GMT
Doesn't Shepard lose when picking the green and blue? I mean the reapers are still around. How can that be a win? most wars don't end in the utter genocide of the loosing side... Most wars aren't started by creatures that are genocidal by design.... Do you not see the conflict there? Your analogy is gotcha, doesn't really work under inspection.
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