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Post by Zemgus on Apr 12, 2021 12:49:19 GMT
Why concerned? The original game would still be there and you could still play it if you like. I cannot play the game now, so its not that I can go and play the old version if I like. Due to how the game was designed for the PC I run into too many issues trying to get it to run. The frustration to get Origins to work now is worse then any of the technical issues I had with Anthem. Fair point. I also run into many bugs when playing DAO. Usually dropping the graphic quality to low helps but obviously that's not the ideal way of playing the game. It's sad because DAO is such a great game but replaying it is torture these days. It really does deserve a remake - even at the cost of losing some of those things that people loved about the original version.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 12, 2021 15:36:01 GMT
I don't think it has been long enough since its release to justify an update for Inquisition. Anything I can think of is pretty much patch material and not really an upgrade. Well Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order (which is also a EA game) really gets a PS5 and Xbox Port and this isn´t that old. Why not port DAI GOTY for PS5 and Xbox Series X also? And if EA does why not improve this game with a remaster? Also who said the remaster should offer much other than patch material? The Kingdom of Amalur (Re-)Reckoning Remaster which comes to my mind.
But i agree with you that for most PC players this would be less useful but thats not the point why most remasters are made.
This also includes the Mass Effect Legendary Edition where the target audience is clearly not the PC folks.
From all the theoretically options a DAI GOTY Remaster / Port is the most likely one from a business perspective.
As a Fan i really want a DAO Remake hell why not also a DA 2 Remake together in package like the Mass Effect Legendary Editon but this highly unlikely because of the costs.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 12, 2021 21:02:45 GMT
I don't think it has been long enough since its release to justify an update for Inquisition. Anything I can think of is pretty much patch material and not really an upgrade. Well Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order (which is also a EA game) really gets a PS5 and Xbox Port and this isn´t that old. Why not port DAI GOTY for PS5 and Xbox Series X also? And if EA does why not improve this game with a remaster? Also who said the remaster should offer much other than patch material? The Kingdom of Amalur (Re-)Reckoning Remaster which comes to my mind.
But i agree with you that for most PC players this would be less useful but thats not the point why most remasters are made.
This also includes the Mass Effect Legendary Edition where the target audience is clearly not the PC folks.
From all the theoretically options a DAI GOTY Remaster / Port is the most likely one from a business perspective.
As a Fan i really want a DAO Remake hell why not also a DA 2 Remake together in package like the Mass Effect Legendary Editon but this highly unlikely because of the costs.
Fallen Order is a patch, not a remake or a remaster. If they can patch Inquisition like that fine, but that is all I think it needs.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 12, 2021 21:09:19 GMT
Fallen Order is a patch, not a remake or a remaster. If they can patch Inquisition like that fine, but that is all I think it needs. Well this isn´t correct anymore.  EA is porting this game to PS5 and Xbox Series X and it will relase sometime in 2021. Of course it hasn´t be official announced but that is only a matter of time.
So i don´t see any reason why they couldn´t port Inquisition (with some improvements as remaster) as well.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 13, 2021 0:21:58 GMT
Fallen Order is a patch, not a remake or a remaster. If they can patch Inquisition like that fine, but that is all I think it needs. Well this isn´t correct anymore. EA is porting this game to PS5 and Xbox Series X and it will relase sometime in 2021. Of course it hasn´t be official announced but that is only a matter of time.
So i don´t see any reason why they couldn´t port Inquisition (with some improvements as remaster) as well.
I will wait and see until an official announcement, but unless its more then just unlocking of features that wouldn't run on the old hardware such as all the new lighting tech that works on PC to me its just a patch for they aren't really developing or changing anything that wasn't already there. Edit: Just to clarify for me most ports are patches for all they are doing is allowing what already existed to run on hardware that didn't exist at launch.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 13, 2021 14:09:54 GMT
Edit: Just to clarify for me most ports are patches for all they are doing is allowing what already existed to run on hardware that didn't exist at launch. I am totally fine with this because first nobody force you buy this port so if don´t like ports don´t buy it. Second in the DLC age you get the best version with all the content on disc atleast for consoles. Having all DAI content even the rare DLCs on the disc well this is a strong selling argument.
Also if Bioware made a DAI port / remaster they can finally fix and optimize some stuff which you can theoretically as get a Patch but unfortunately doesn´t made patches for such "old" games. The final DAI patch was just one month after Trespasser DLC has been released.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 15:14:23 GMT
I really want a DAO Remake hell why not also a DA 2 Remake together in package like the Mass Effect Legendary Editon but this highly unlikely because of the costs. It is also comparing apples to oranges. ME1-3 - Unreal Engine 3. DAO - Eclipse Engine DA2 - Lycium DA2 - FB3 A Legendary Edition of DA will never happen, for the above reason. A DAI next-gen patch could happen at some point, but if it does it should be free. CDPR released graphical updates for the Witcher games gratis; not everything has to be monetized to death. It is way too early for a remaster of DAI. I don't blame you for wanting it, but I wouldn't hold this idea too dear to your heart. |
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 13, 2021 16:08:01 GMT
A DAI next-gen patch could happen at some point, but if it does it should be free. CDPR released graphical updates for the Witcher games gratis; not everything has to be monetized to death. EA isn´t CDPR so this isn´t free. Maybe this port cost $30-50 with no improvements but you get the everything on disc.
In 2022 it would be 8 years!!! so yeah you can do a port for new consoles or even a remaster.
Do you remember Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning? After 8 years it also have gotten a remaster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 16:57:41 GMT
EA definitely isn't CDPR.
Not Hello Games either, not by a long shot. I hope they make it for you, but my guess it would lose money.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 16, 2021 10:23:05 GMT
I hope they make it for you, but my guess it would lose money. Why would a Dragon Age Inquisition GOTY port or a low efford remaster lose money?
DAI was a pretty successful game for Bioware and therefore EA. I am not sure but it even could been the most successful game for Bioware at all.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 16, 2021 10:51:52 GMT
PC players got 2k texture update back in the day. I think DAI looks, plays and SOUNDS still very very good. There are some bugs but...  So I dont think so about the remaster, but a port to PS5/XBOX(whatever the latest version is) could be a good thing, especially now that the consoles have 1. a lot of memory, 2. are x86 - basically custom PC's. |
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I hope they make it for you, but my guess it would lose money. Why would a Dragon Age Inquisition GOTY port or a low efford remaster lose money?
DAI was a pretty successful game for Bioware and therefore EA. I am not sure but it even could been the most successful game for Bioware at all.
It is simple cash flow, and also just my opinion. What I am saying is that the remaster costs money. Money for the new artwork, money for the developers that integrate the new artwork and whatever polishing they might want to do, money to package and promote the new game in boxes for the storefronts. They have to sell enough of this game (that is still very playable and modern in the current version) to make all of that back and enough profit % to justify the endeavor. To me, this seems like a dice roll at best considering the still mixed user score and reception of DAI. I haven't forgotten the game at release either, as a PC player. So, if the bean counter that makes these decisions believes that there is enough profit, then you will get your wish. I doubt this. Hope that clears up my perspective. |
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 16, 2021 12:24:29 GMT
What I am saying is that the remaster costs money. Almost everything costs money. You mean the cover artwork?!? Like every smaller Remaster or port before. Of course that costs money but come on that isn´t that expensive. I mean THQ Nordic are making Remasters for even smaller games all the time and they make good money out of those. Yeah very risky to re-release a good selling game (which DAI ist) as port with small improvements or non.
Also one thing you have to understand is those ports or remasters aren´t made because why can be sold for PC again. Its only a nice bonus
Burnout Paradise Remastered, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered or even the Mass Effect Legendary Edition are made because they can sold on newer consoles.
And yes a port / remaster of DAI does make a lot of sense for PS5 and Xbox Series X.
You think really a this is my wish?
Sorry but you are so wrong. It´s true that i want a version of Dragon Age Inquisition with all content finally on disk because preservation but that´s not really my wish here. My wish is to have a Legendary Edition for DA as well which of course included every previous DA content.
But a DAO and DA 2 remaster or even remake is highly unlikely so i have to make compromises and be realistic about this. Only a DAI port / remaster for PS5 and Xbox Series X maybe plus PC seems plausible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 15:45:48 GMT
Ok, that's cool. Again, I hope they make it for you and my opinion is they won't for the reasons I gave. Not arguing with you, thanks and have a lovely day!
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Post by The Elder King on Apr 22, 2021 17:35:24 GMT
As others said, a remaster of the three DA games isn’t really likely, as the situation is quite different from the ME trilogy, both in regards of the story/stories, and the engines used for DAO/DA2. Making those two looking decent for today’s standards, in terms of graphics, is likely impossible, without an engine shift, and that would likely require a massive aumont of work, much more then what they did with the LE.
I’d personally love a DAO ‘remake’ in Frostbite, in the same vein of the DS remake. I wouldn’t personally mind even a full remake, but I think this would generate a great aumont of negativity, given that the changes will divide the fanbase.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 9, 2021 21:40:43 GMT
So here it is. A Dragon Age Origins GOTY Remake would also be awesome but i don´t think that it will happen. But a DAI Remaster seems in my opinion more likely. Yeez Sony releases just Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy for PS5 and PC. But not Uncharted 1-3.  |
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Sept 9, 2021 21:57:26 GMT
I'd only buy a Dao remake if it came with the lost Avvar origin and the Avvar version of the Urn of Sacred Ashes plotline.
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Post by duskwanderer on Sept 10, 2021 1:37:20 GMT
I would only buy a DA:O remaster if they:
A.) Fixed the Fade section in the Circle Tower It was tedious and far too dull.
B.) Streamlined the spells. Half of them were right useless.
C.) Updated the graphics and combat animations. This includes things like making the family Cousland and Brosca match our skin tones, hair color, and such.
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Post by wickedcool on Sept 11, 2021 2:18:34 GMT
I’m really curious on the Star Wars remaster. It appears they don’t get remade by BioWare
Is the mass effect remake worth it. If they put the sand effort into the da franchise like they did with mass effect is it worth it
I would buy dai if they released a version with all the missing schematics ( not using mods). I’m sure they could make other minor modifications
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Post by grallon on Sept 11, 2021 13:11:01 GMT
How about focusing on DA4 rather than waste resources (and time) on this?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 11, 2021 18:35:59 GMT
How about focusing on DA4 rather than waste resources (and time) on this? Because DA4 is still 2+ years away and a remaster of an old game can be done by a different studio, without robbing Bioware of resources, while also instilling some interest in a franchise that has not seen any relevance with the public in, so far, 7 years.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 11, 2021 22:38:26 GMT
How about focusing on DA4 rather than waste resources (and time) on this? Because DA4 is still 2+ years away and a remaster of an old game can be done by a different studio, without robbing Bioware of resources, while also instilling some interest in a franchise that has not seen any relevance with the public in, so far, 7 years. I think that0ll be doable, as it wouldn't take resources from Bioware. Although I wonder ifthe budget allocated for a DAO remake is going to be bigger then the LE, if they want to update the game to at least something comparable to the LE. For a DAI remaster, the connection to the plot of DA4 could be useful, but I think it's also too soon for one. I don't think we're going to see remakes of DA games as that would be a much bigger undertaking, and to be frank, while DAO is my favourite of the three, it's also the one, personally, that would carry more risk given that they'll most likely go for changes like shifting to a voiced protagonist. I might be more interested in a DA2 remake because I won't be nearly as disappointed if it'd turn out to be bad, and because I want to see that game be fully realized with a proper development time.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 12, 2021 16:07:09 GMT
I would buy dai if they released a version with all the missing schematics ( not using mods). I’m sure they could make other minor modifications Yeah i would love to finally craft Tyrdda's Staff / Archon Lighting Staff or a good looking normal sword.
For a DAI remaster, the connection to the plot of DA4 could be useful, but I think it's also too soon for one. After 7 years you can do a remaster or a next gen port if you will. Also Sony is doing a Uncharted 4 / Lost Legacy remaster for PS5 and PC and those are much younger titles than DAI. Edit: And don´t forget that EA already had ported Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order for PS5 and Xbox Series X.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Sept 21, 2021 15:17:07 GMT
I'm replaying it now and it looks just fine to me.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 21, 2021 16:36:19 GMT
I'm replaying it now and it looks just fine to me. Yeah I'm in the middle of a playthrou ghof DAI myself and it looks jus tfine doesn't really need an ytouching up looks good even up agains tgames tha ta recoming out no ws oI don' think it needs one if anything DAI needs i teven ess than the LE did and lets not forge ttha tDAI is a massive game. I could see a remake/remaster o fDAO possibl yDA2 as well but tbh I thin kthat's likel yas far as I can see EA going but I suspect they'd only d othat to bring it up 6to DAI levels like how the LE brought ME1 closer to ME2 and 3 as they diden' trelly do much with ME 2 o r3 except mayb echange the lighting a littl ebit. Besides 2 and 3 didn't really needmuch work beyond the stupid MP galactic readiness being removed most of it was ME1. TBH I don't see them touching DAI at all as it's just not giong to earn them enough money to makes such a project viable.
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So I dont think so about the remaster, but a port to PS5/XBOX(whatever the latest version is) could be a good thing, especially now that the consoles have 1. a lot of memory, 2. are x86 - basically custom PC's.
