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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 2:53:28 GMT
Why do some PC gamers like to talk a bunch of crap about consoles? Did they have a bad experience in childhood? Some would rather talk down to consoles and console players. You'd think they wouldn't give a second glance. People just want to pick a platform they desire, not be dissuaded from playing on a console. It's like trying to convert someone to another religion. Wtf... >_> Something like Mass Effect is the type of game that can work just fine on any modern platform. However I've noticed that games like Horizon Zero Dawn or Assassin's Creed Valhalla struggle on PC, even after the patches, if any. I recently watched gameplay of Horizon with the RTX 2060 GPU, and even at 1080p, it struggled to stay at 60fps. Granted, it's still 30fps on PS5, but it stays at 30. It's probably one of the reasons why I'm reluctant to play on PC again. Here I have a PC that's supposed to be more powerful than anything else, and yet it struggles with certain AAA titles. In order to play at 60fps or higher, I would have to lower the settings and the resolution, but that defeats the purpose for having better visuals and performance. It's almost like false advertisement. If I want a perfect performance at max settings in either 1440p or 4k, I need to save for a long time and spend a fortune for top of the line hardware and software, and in the end, I'll feel empty, because I wouldn't have much money for anything else, except for eating cup noodles for the next year... And the upgrade. Damn, doesn't become stressful over time? If you want to play a new AAA game properly, you upgrade in order to enjoy it for the next few years until something even more demanding comes along. You have to buy a new GPU, RAM. Don't get me started on the CPU and motherboard. When you upgrade those, you have to reinstall windows every-single-time, along with the drivers for everything, and you would always have to back up your files (I don't know if everything is delete if you reinstall windows). Is PC gaming meant to be a luxury item, for the more fortune, well to do, elite? What am I missing here?
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 4:30:11 GMT
Maybe I'm missing some backstory or sarcasm here, but I feel like you're taking the whole "PC master race" thing way too seriously. It's like trying to convert someone to another religion. Wtf... >_> Isn't that sort of what your post is? Assassin's Creed Valhalla struggle on PC, even after the patches, if any. Does it? I had bugs, certainly, but not performance problems. It's probably one of the reasons why I'm reluctant to play on PC again. Then don't. Play on whatever you want. Here I have a PC that's supposed to be more powerful than anything else I don't think anyone is claiming an RTX 2060 (since that was your example) is more powerful than anything else. There's nothing wrong with it, but it was entry level for the 20-series. You're also saying that a machine which "struggles" to maintain 60fps is unfavorable compared with a machine that can only achieve 30fps, which I don't understand. What is perfect performance? I need to save for a long time and spend a fortune for top of the line hardware and software A "long time" is relative, I suppose, and depends on each person's budget. Prices for GPUs are through the roof right now due to product shortages and high demand, but they'll go back to normal eventually. For some people, spending money on a computer that they can not only game on, but also use for other tasks -- AND got to assemble themselves -- is worth it. If it isn't worth it for you, then don't get one. I'm not sure why you think you need components that are top of the line, either. Responsible adults spend within their personal budgets, whatever that might be. For some, that's top of the line. For others, that's entry level. What do you mean by spending a fortune for software? You can get Windows for free (legally) if you don't mind being nagged to purchase a key and don't mind not changing your desktop background. Some of the big tech channels on YouTube talk about doing that. You have to buy a new GPU, RAM. Don't get me started on the CPU and motherboard. Why do you think you "have" to do this for every new AAA release?
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 4:38:31 GMT
Maybe I'm missing some backstory or sarcasm here, but I feel like you're taking the whole "PC master race" thing way too seriously. It's like trying to convert someone to another religion. Wtf... >_> Isn't that sort of what your post is? Assassin's Creed Valhalla struggle on PC, even after the patches, if any. Does it? I had bugs, certainly, but not performance problems. It's probably one of the reasons why I'm reluctant to play on PC again. Then don't. Play on whatever you want. Here I have a PC that's supposed to be more powerful than anything else I don't think anyone is claiming an RTX 2060 (since that was your example) is more powerful than anything else. There's nothing wrong with it, but it was entry level for the 20-series. You're also saying that a machine which "struggles" to maintain 60fps is unfavorable compared with a machine that can only achieve 30fps, which I don't understand. What is perfect performance? I need to save for a long time and spend a fortune for top of the line hardware and software A "long time" is relative, I suppose, and depends on each person's budget. Prices for GPUs are through the roof right now due to product shortages and high demand, but they'll go back to normal eventually. For some people, spending money on a computer that they can not only game on, but also use for other tasks -- AND got to assemble themselves -- is worth it. If it isn't worth it for you, then don't get one. I'm not sure why you think you need components that are top of the line, either. Responsible adults spend within their personal budgets, whatever that might be. For some, that's top of the line. For others, that's entry level. What do you mean by spending a fortune for software? You can get Windows for free (legally) if you don't mind being nagged to purchase a key and don't mind not changing your desktop background. Some of the big tech channels on YouTube talk about doing that. You have to buy a new GPU, RAM. Don't get me started on the CPU and motherboard. Why do you think you "have" to do this for every new AAA release? For years people have boasted about how powerful their PCs are compared to consoles. They show just how amazing a game's performance can be. So, if I can't get around 60fps, what is the point? If I have to lower the settings it will look no different than its console counterpart, thus making the PC a complete waste. It almost seems to imply that in order to experience PC games to the fullest, you have to completely drain your wallet just to play the game the way it was "meant to be played." I've seen videos where people demonstrate how their PC can't reach 4k 60fps with newer AAA titles, yet they aren't the least bit upset. Why not? I would be. I spent a lot of money to put the PC together. I expect good results. Are developers catering to only the gamers who have the luxury to have the best hardware?
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 4:53:19 GMT
For years people have boasted about how powerful their PCs are compared to consoles. They show just how amazing a game's performance can be. So, if I can't get around 60fps, what is the point? If I have to lower the settings it will look no different than its console counterpart, thus making the PC a complete waste. If getting 60fps is the most important thing to you, and if you can't get it with your current hardware, then sure, you'll either need better hardware or you'll have to learn to overclock your existing hardware. If you don't want to get better hardware or overclock your existing hardware, then either deal with lower settings, lower fps, or get a console. What's the big deal? I don't really understand your post. You made a bunch of generalizations that I either asked you to clarify, or pointed out weren't true, and your only response is that PCs are a waste because yours specifically can't give you 60fps with max settings in some newer games. Are you wanting someone to change your mind? Are you just wanting to hear from people about why they like PC gaming? Are you wanting people to say consoles are better?
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 4:58:57 GMT
I am in a gaming crisis. It wouldn't be so bad if my PC didn't have a stop code problem (Whea Uncorrectable Error 0x0000124). It happens at its own good time. Whenever you think it's gone, a month later, it comes back. So many solutions, and none of them worked.
Another issue is the pressure from the term "Console Peasant." Yeah, like getting my PS5 was easy... I paid $800 for it. Console peasant is such an unfair label. The pressure of not wanting to be considered a peasant is stressful.
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 5:25:00 GMT
Another issue is the pressure from the term "Console Peasant." Yeah, like getting my PS5 was easy... I paid $800 for it. Console peasant is such an unfair label. The pressure of not wanting to be considered a peasant is stressful. I suppose it wouldn't help to say don't let it bother you so much? Some people are just joking around with all the PC master race/console peasant stuff. Other people are assholes. Don't let assholes ruin what you enjoy. I love my gaming PC because I think computers are cool, I get satisfaction in having put it together myself and getting confidence in tinkering with it, and I do things on it other than gaming that just happen to benefit from gaming hardware. If those things aren't part of the fun for you, then don't sweat it. You are not less of a gamer because you prefer to play on console. Anyone giving you shit for it is not worth your time
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Post by shaqfu on May 1, 2021 5:30:30 GMT
To be fair, console owners yell at each other just as much if not more lol. Just play on whatever platform you prefer. I personally love pc gaming because I get to tweak around with game settings more, as well as having access to mods.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 5:38:07 GMT
It's just that I am out of options with the PC I currently have. I cannot find the root cause for the problem its having. I'm worried about coming back, especially with Mass Effect Legendary Edition just around the corner, then having to wait to spend money for new hardware in an attempt to fix said problem.
If you don't know my problem, it is something called a Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD). In my case it's called the WHEA_Uncorrectible Error, stop code: 0x00000124. It's supposedly a hardware failure, but it can't pinpoint which hardware is causing the problem. It could be any piece of hardware in my PC.
That was why I decided to stop gaming on PC altogether. I couldn't take the stress of errors and crashes anymore, with a high chance of it all happening again in the future, even with upgrades.
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Post by skekSil on May 1, 2021 15:15:23 GMT
If you don't know my problem, it is something called a Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD). In my case it's called the WHEA_Uncorrectible Error, stop code: 0x00000124. It's supposedly a hardware failure, but it can't pinpoint which hardware is causing the problem. It could be any piece of hardware in my PC. So, you made this thread because you have a computer problem you can't fix? How long has this been going on? Does it happen randomly or there is a pattern to it, like its happening when you are playing a game? What steps did you take to figure out what is the problem?
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Post by mousestalker on May 1, 2021 15:27:58 GMT
A console scared my brother once. Consoles are leading us towards Skynet. Two good reasons to play on the PC. Seriously, the major advantage PC's offer is the same that they offer over Apple products. PC's are more easily upgradeable than either. With a console you are locked into a fixed configuration. The advantage is that all of the games that are labeled for your box should be able to be played on it. Reality sometimes disagrees. With the PC you run the risk of the game not working or not working well even if your machine meets all parameters. As for any snobbery, it's human nature. Any time you make a choice, you think you have made the right choice, at least for a while. That means everyone who chosen differently has chosen poorly. So if you decide to get a gaming PC, that is the best decision. And those poor slobs with consoles are people who have made bad life choices. Or vice versa, if that brings you comfort. PC's > consoles after all. If we're discussing reality.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 15:57:14 GMT
If you don't know my problem, it is something called a Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD). In my case it's called the WHEA_Uncorrectible Error, stop code: 0x00000124. It's supposedly a hardware failure, but it can't pinpoint which hardware is causing the problem. It could be any piece of hardware in my PC. So, you made this thread because you have a computer problem you can't fix? How long has this been going on? Does it happen randomly or there is a pattern to it, like its happening when you are playing a game? What steps did you take to figure out what is the problem? It happens when gaming, at random intervals. Sometimes it happens everytime I try to play the game, other times it doesn't happen for about a month or two. And after the computer crashes and restarts, it can sometimes happen again immediately after or before logging in.
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Post by skekSil on May 1, 2021 16:11:22 GMT
How long has this been going on? Does it happen randomly or there is a pattern to it, like its happening when you are playing a game? What steps did you take to figure out what is the problem?
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 20:17:13 GMT
So, you made this thread because you have a computer problem you can't fix? How long has this been going on? Does it happen randomly or there is a pattern to it, like its happening when you are playing a game? What steps did you take to figure out what is the problem? It happens when gaming, at random intervals. Sometimes it happens everytime I try to play the game, other times it doesn't happen for about a month or two. And after the computer crashes and restarts, it can sometimes happen again immediately after or before logging in. I second the question,"what steps have you taken to fix the problem?" I looked up the error, and while it could be hardware failure, it could also be a voltage issue. So it would help to know what you've already done to try to fix it. Also, was this a pre-built PC, or did you build it?
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 21:24:57 GMT
It happens when gaming, at random intervals. Sometimes it happens everytime I try to play the game, other times it doesn't happen for about a month or two. And after the computer crashes and restarts, it can sometimes happen again immediately after or before logging in. I second the question,"what steps have you taken to fix the problem?" I looked up the error, and while it could be hardware failure, it could also be a voltage issue. So it would help to know what you've already done to try to fix it. Also, was this a pre-built PC, or did you build it? The PC is a custom build. I updated drivers when I needed to, I did system diagnostics, ran chkdsk in the command prompt, took out ram sticks which I though we're causing the issue (the problem didn't happen for a couple of month, until it happened again). I even did a few stress tests.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 1, 2021 21:43:45 GMT
Why do some PC gamers like to talk a bunch of crap about consoles? Did they have a bad experience in childhood? Some would rather talk down to consoles and console players. You'd think they wouldn't give a second glance. People just want to pick a platform they desire, not be dissuaded from playing on a console. It's like trying to convert someone to another religion. Wtf... >_> As someone who plays games on PC and consoles, that's all I need to know.
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 22:21:31 GMT
I second the question,"what steps have you taken to fix the problem?" I looked up the error, and while it could be hardware failure, it could also be a voltage issue. So it would help to know what you've already done to try to fix it. Also, was this a pre-built PC, or did you build it? The PC is a custom build. I updated drivers when I needed to, I did system diagnostics, ran chkdsk in the command prompt, took out ram sticks which I though we're causing the issue (the problem didn't happen for a couple of month, until it happened again). I even did a few stress tests. So you haven't really gone through checklists of how to fix your error, right? At least not full checklists? For example, here is what this list says to do: techbaked.com/fix-whea-uncorrectable-error-0x0000124-windows/1. Is your RAM in the correct slots for your motherboard? (Typically, slots 2 and 4 should be used first, but it depends on the motherboard.) Is your GPU in the correct PCI-E slot? (Typically the one closest to the CPU.) Have you tried reseating your components? How much RAM do you have? 2. This could be a voltage problem, so if you have overclocking enabled, try disabling it and see if the error reoccurs. 3. Check for driver errors (click the link above for instructions). 4. Run chkdsk (which you already did). 5. Reset or update BIOS (click the link for details). 6. Fix BCD error (click the link for instructions). 7. Reset Windows 10 as a last resort. Try everything else first, including some options that this particular article might not list.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 1, 2021 23:24:27 GMT
The PC is a custom build. I updated drivers when I needed to, I did system diagnostics, ran chkdsk in the command prompt, took out ram sticks which I though we're causing the issue (the problem didn't happen for a couple of month, until it happened again). I even did a few stress tests. So you haven't really gone through checklists of how to fix your error, right? At least not full checklists? For example, here is what this list says to do: techbaked.com/fix-whea-uncorrectable-error-0x0000124-windows/1. Is your RAM in the correct slots for your motherboard? (Typically, slots 2 and 4 should be used first, but it depends on the motherboard.) Is your GPU in the correct PCI-E slot? (Typically the one closest to the CPU.) Have you tried reseating your components? How much RAM do you have? 2. This could be a voltage problem, so if you have overclocking enabled, try disabling it and see if the error reoccurs. 3. Check for driver errors (click the link above for instructions). 4. Run chkdsk (which you already did). 5. Reset or update BIOS (click the link for details). 6. Fix BCD error (click the link for instructions). 7. Reset Windows 10 as a last resort. Try everything else first, including some options that this particular article might not list. I didn't know about the RAM having to be in slots 2 and 4. They were always in 1 and 2 since the PC was first built back in 2015 (this crash didn't happen until late 2019 early 2020). I never did overclock my hard, but I recently disabled Turbo Boost yesterday. The GPU was was always in the correct slot just below the CPU. Everytime I check the drivers the computer would say that they are up to date, besides the GPU, which I update through GeForce Experience.
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Post by dragontartare on May 1, 2021 23:48:47 GMT
I didn't know about the RAM having to be in slots 2 and 4. They were always in 1 and 2 since the PC was first built back in 2015 (this crash didn't happen until late 2019 early 2020). What motherboard do you have?
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 2, 2021 0:16:38 GMT
I don't know. The GPU replaced the previous one, which was a GTX 970. I remember playing Final Fantasy XV on Steam. I went to see if the fans in my GPU were running (I didn't know at the time that the fans in the RTX 2060 only spin when it's necessary). My finger bumped into one of the fans. I didn't know were spinning. I looked up at the screen, and the screen was frozen. The game looked as still as a screencap. There was a very loud buzzing noise in the headphone speakers, then the screen changed to the blue screen error message. I don't think that is what cause the error, the fans still functioned properly after that. By the way, why just slots 2 and 4?
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Post by dragontartare on May 2, 2021 1:40:49 GMT
By the way, why just slots 2 and 4? It has to do with how the slots are configured in order to take advantage of dual-channel memory, but I don't know the technical reasons for why it's wired that way. Move your RAM to the correct slots and see if you still have problems. ETA: of course, if you have 4 RAM sticks, you can use all four slots. Do you use temperature-monitoring software? If not, start doing so immediately. There should be no need to touch any fans to see if they are running
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 2, 2021 1:42:52 GMT
By the way, why just slots 2 and 4? It has to do with how the slots are configured in order to take advantage of dual-channel memory, but I don't know the technical reasons for why it's wired that way. Move your RAM to the correct slots and see if you still have problems. ETA: of course, if you have 4 RAM sticks, you can use all four slots. Do you use temperature-monitoring software? If not, start doing so immediately. There should be no need to touch any fans to see if they are running The problem is that you never know when it'll happen again. It's in random intervals. It could happen, hours, days, weeks, or even months at a time. I think I have that kind of software. I'll have to check.
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Post by dragontartare on May 2, 2021 1:49:36 GMT
It has to do with how the slots are configured in order to take advantage of dual-channel memory, but I don't know the technical reasons for why it's wired that way. Move your RAM to the correct slots and see if you still have problems. ETA: of course, if you have 4 RAM sticks, you can use all four slots. Do you use temperature-monitoring software? If not, start doing so immediately. There should be no need to touch any fans to see if they are running The problem is that you never know when it'll happen again. It's in random intervals. It could happen, hours, days, weeks, or even months at a time. I think I have that kind of software. I'll have to check. If you don't, download MSI Afterburner. It's free and lots of people use it, so there are plenty of tutorials. I monitor my CPU and GPU temps at all times while gaming (Afterburner can insert them into the corner of the screen for you), and occasionally check them during non-gaming tasks as well. It can monitor all sorts of other settings, too. Also, move the RAM anyway. It can't hurt to have them installed correctly, even if something else is causing the problem.
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Post by shaqfu on May 2, 2021 2:18:50 GMT
I def rec using fan software. You can set custom profiles or use some presets to have them run more often and speed up faster. I've had old cards go bad by overheating due to the default profiles not being up to the task. Can be especially bad if your overall case airflow is bad as well.
Also if you haven't already, look into using DDU to uninstall your video drivers, then reinstall like you normally would. I saw that you said you switched from a 970 to a newer card, sometimes if you just use the Nvidia installer to update and override your older drivers you can get some lingering files that don't play nice.
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