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May I invite BSNers to post their ME3 EMS score (Galactic readiness) in MELE and what happened? There remains some ambiguity about what causes what, so having a reference point might be handy.
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Both squadmates killed by Harbinger, earth scorched, door to SR2 did not open both squadmates killed by Harbinger, blue and red were available, had memorial scene, relays exploded, SR2 stuck on unknown planet for however long SR2 picks up squadmates, red and blue are available, memorial scene, relays explode green is available, relays don't explode, scenes showing reapers being destroyed on other planets, memorial scene, SR2 flying off unknown planet green is available, relays don't explode, scenes showing reapers being destroyed on other planets, memorial scene, SR2 flying off unknown planet
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Post by azarhal on May 27, 2021 11:21:13 GMT
Copying this here from the "lets play" thread.
I finished with 8075 military strength (higher value is possible as I didn't even maximize, I wrote 100-200 in the "lets play" thread but it's more 400-500 apparently), I got the breath scenes. Note thet getting the Geths/Quarian friendly really helps getting an high score, going Quarians requires you to scrounge every war assets to get enough for the breath scene.
Geths are worth 810, Quarians 500. Without Geth: 7265 Without Quarians: 7575
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Post by Monica21 on May 27, 2021 13:14:29 GMT
I figured I'd see good info on this forum first. I've been seeing somewhere between 7600 and 7800 needed for the breath scene, so can anyone confirm the lowest score at which they got the breath scene?
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I figured I'd see good info on this forum first. I've been seeing somewhere between 7600 and 7800 needed for the breath scene, so can anyone confirm the lowest score at which they got the breath scene? 14thcommander got it with 7500.
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Post by Monica21 on May 27, 2021 14:04:11 GMT
I figured I'd see good info on this forum first. I've been seeing somewhere between 7600 and 7800 needed for the breath scene, so can anyone confirm the lowest score at which they got the breath scene? 14thcommander got it with 7500. That sounds like it should be pretty easily doable, especially with a full trilogy playthrough. Probably much harder if you just play ME3 though.
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Post by 14thcommander on May 27, 2021 16:09:42 GMT
That sounds like it should be pretty easily doable, especially with a full trilogy playthrough. Probably much harder if you just play ME3 though. I played through all 3 games, and in ME3 I did most side quests, all 3 DLCs and got all war assets from the planets. It only took me 28 hours including the last mission. So it's really not hard! You just need to do some exploring and side-questing and you'll be good to go. It's also important to get both the Geth and Quarians on your side. They both help a lot.
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lol I wonder if I already shot myself in the foot since I sold legion to cerberus in this run.
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Post by azarhal on May 27, 2021 18:23:27 GMT
lol I wonder if I already shot myself in the foot since I sold legion to cerberus in this run. It is technically possible to get above 7500 with just the Quarians, but you need to get pretty much every little war assets from the game, especially the DLCs. No much role-playing allowed to reach it.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on May 27, 2021 18:33:56 GMT
lol I wonder if I already shot myself in the foot since I sold legion to cerberus in this run. It is technically possible to get above 7500 with just the Quarians, but you need to get pretty much every little war assets from the game, especially the DLCs. No much role-playing allowed to reach it. I always play the DLCs anyway. It looks like I am going to whipping around the galaxy map alot and keeping my ears open on the citadel.
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Likely won't get there since I'm planning on trying to get out of ME2 with just Garrus and Tali alive lmfao
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Post by azarhal on May 27, 2021 23:54:59 GMT
Likely won't get there since I'm planning on trying to get out of ME2 with just Garrus and Tali alive lmfao That's what replay are for. I'm already planning my PT where everyone dies, but with Shepard making it to ME3, so at least two squadmates have to survive and I want to have the less present one in ME3. I once succeeded having only Samara/Kasumi surviving when I wanted Shepard to die in the suicide mission...so I know that it is possible.
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Post by quarianmasterrace on May 28, 2021 0:18:50 GMT
Copying this here from the "lets play" thread. I finished with 8075 military strength (higher value is possible as I didn't even maximize, I wrote 100-200 in the "lets play" thread but it's more 400-500 apparently), I got the breath scenes. Note thet getting the Geths/Quarian friendly really helps getting an high score, going Quarians requires you to scrounge every war assets to get enough for the breath scene. Geths are worth 810, Quarians 500. Without Geth: 7265 Without Quarians: 7575 Well, technically Geth/Quarian war assets flip numbers based on what you did to the heretics in Legion's ME2 mission. You rewrote them. If you destroy them instead, Geth have 510 assets and Quarians have a max of 830.
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Post by azarhal on May 28, 2021 0:39:43 GMT
Copying this here from the "lets play" thread. I finished with 8075 military strength (higher value is possible as I didn't even maximize, I wrote 100-200 in the "lets play" thread but it's more 400-500 apparently), I got the breath scenes. Note thet getting the Geths/Quarian friendly really helps getting an high score, going Quarians requires you to scrounge every war assets to get enough for the breath scene. Geths are worth 810, Quarians 500. Without Geth: 7265 Without Quarians: 7575 Well, technically Geth/Quarian war assets flip numbers based on what you did to the heretics in Legion's ME2 mission. You rewrote them. If you destroy them instead, Geth have 510 assets and Quarians have a max of 830. I didn't know that, but it doesn't change my numbers.
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Post by themikefest on May 28, 2021 14:31:32 GMT
Likely won't get there since I'm planning on trying to get out of ME2 with just Garrus and Tali alive lmfao Possibly. Follow the war asset thread to see how high you can get your ems. Since 7500 is needed, not getting peace between the geth and quarians may not hurt, but not having all squadmates from ME2 in ME3 might be the difference. Did you save Kirrahe in ME1? Was Wrex killed or not recruited in ME1? If you plan on doing Mordin's loyalty mission, I suggest keeping Maleon's information. I ask because it could help getting the breath scene. Since you won't have Mordin, Padok Wiks will be the one to fill the role. Do not cure the genophage. Shoot Wiks in the back. What this does is give both krogan and salarian war assets. If Kirrahe is alive, he will protect the councilor giving you more assets. If Wrex is in ME3, cure the genophage. In my playthrough with 7800, I did not cure the genophage without having to shoot Mordin in the back. He is alive.
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Post by themikefest on May 28, 2021 16:18:41 GMT
That sounds like it should be pretty easily doable, especially with a full trilogy playthrough. Probably much harder if you just play ME3 though. Getting the breath scene playing a default ME3 playthrough will not happen. The most can get is about 7150. There is a thread mentioning missing war assets. I would guess a patch will be released to fix those, and Bioware might lower the requirement for the breath scene so someone can get it if he/she were to do a default ME3 playthrough.
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Post by sgtreed24 on May 28, 2021 16:43:07 GMT
Likely won't get there since I'm planning on trying to get out of ME2 with just Garrus and Tali alive lmfao Possibly. Follow the war asset thread to see how high you can get your ems. Since 7500 is needed, not getting peace between the geth and quarians may not hurt, but not having all squadmates from ME2 in ME3 might be the difference. Did you save Kirrahe in ME1? Was Wrex killed or not recruited in ME1? If you plan on doing Mordin's loyalty mission, I suggest keeping Maleon's information. I ask because it could help getting the breath scene. Since you won't have Mordin, Padok Wiks will be the one to fill the role. Do not cure the genophage. Shoot Wiks in the back. What this does is give both krogan and salarian war assets. If Kirrahe is alive, he will protect the councilor giving you more assets. If Wrex is in ME3, cure the genophage. In my playthrough with 7800, I did not cure the genophage without having to shoot Mordin in the back. He is alive. I always save Kirrahe because I always send Ashley with the Salarians and Kaidan dies guarding the bomb in all my playthrus lol. Wrex is also alive. The thing about the loyalty missions is, I'm not sure which ones I can and can't do entirely yet. Like I know I can do Jack, Kasumi, and Thane's loyalty missions because they will all die if I don't upgrade the ship. And I know I'm not going to do Miranda's because she's going to die in the human reaper battle. Jacob I can do if I send him in the vents, but not if I choose him as second fire team leader. Also whoever is higher on the list of dying when Miranda does the biotic bubble can be loyal I think. The crew escort can't be loyal. Also can't have Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed at the end so only Garrus can be loyal and I have to kill off Zaeed and Grunt before we get there.
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The thing about the loyalty missions is, I'm not sure which ones I can and can't do entirely yet. Like I know I can do Jack, Kasumi, and Thane's loyalty missions because they will all die if I don't upgrade the ship. And I know I'm not going to do Miranda's because she's going to die in the human reaper battle. Jacob I can do if I send him in the vents, but not if I choose him as second fire team leader. Also whoever is higher on the list of dying when Miranda does the biotic bubble can be loyal I think. The crew escort can't be loyal. Also can't have Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed at the end so only Garrus can be loyal and I have to kill off Zaeed and Grunt before we get there. Depending on your playthrough, at least 6 loyal squadmates can die during the suicide mission. Another suggestion talk to Jacob right away. He will mention the armor upgrade. Do not get it. Since you have Garrus and Tali in the next game, and both will be loyal, they will automatically provide their upgrade for the ship, if you didn't ask them about them already. DO NOT upgrade the ship before doing the suicide mission. That's if you plan on recruiting all squadmates. One recommendation is to gather all the mineral resources you can before doing the suicide mission. If each are over 100,000 when importing you should get 100 war assets. If Grunt and Zaeed are not loyal, have them fight the proto reaper. Both will die. Most likely you will have Garrus and Tali for that. Then I would set it up where Grunt/Zaeed die during the barrier section and Grunt/Zaeed die as 2nd fireteam leader. Since you mention keeping the crew alive, have Zaeed/Grunt be the escort. What you want is to have the weakest squadmates possible to hold the line to maximize death.
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Post by Monica21 on May 28, 2021 18:07:09 GMT
Getting the breath scene playing a default ME3 playthrough will not happen. The most can get is about 7150. There is a thread mentioning missing war assets. I would guess a patch will be released to fix those, and Bioware might lower the requirement for the breath scene so someone can get it if he/she were to do a default ME3 playthrough. From what I could tell, the dev team's intent was to make the war assets matter across the entire trilogy, so I'd actually be surprised if they did this. And I kind of hope they don't.
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The thing about the loyalty missions is, I'm not sure which ones I can and can't do entirely yet. Like I know I can do Jack, Kasumi, and Thane's loyalty missions because they will all die if I don't upgrade the ship. And I know I'm not going to do Miranda's because she's going to die in the human reaper battle. Jacob I can do if I send him in the vents, but not if I choose him as second fire team leader. Also whoever is higher on the list of dying when Miranda does the biotic bubble can be loyal I think. The crew escort can't be loyal. Also can't have Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed at the end so only Garrus can be loyal and I have to kill off Zaeed and Grunt before we get there. Depending on your playthrough, at least 6 loyal squadmates can die during the suicide mission. Another suggestion talk to Jacob right away. He will mention the armor upgrade. Do not get it. Since you have Garrus and Tali in the next game, and both will be loyal, they will automatically provide their upgrade for the ship, if you didn't ask them about them already. DO NOT upgrade the ship before doing the suicide mission. That's if you plan on recruiting all squadmates. One recommendation is to gather all the mineral resources you can before doing the suicide mission. If each are over 100,000 when importing you should get 100 war assets. If Grunt and Zaeed are not loyal, have them fight the proto reaper. Both will die. Most likely you will have Garrus and Tali for that. Then I would set it up where Grunt/Zaeed die during the barrier section and Grunt/Zaeed die as 2nd fireteam leader. Since you mention keeping the crew alive, have Zaeed/Grunt be the escort. What you want is to have the weakest squadmates possible to hold the line to maximize death. My plan was to take Tali (loyal) and Miranda (not loyal) to the reaper battle so that miranda would for sure die, since she's hard af to kill in ME2. Then Zaeed for the escort cause if I take him on the bubble I would have to have Morinth in order for him to get taken. But recruiting morinth is basically making her loyal. Even tho I do like Morinth for the comical shit of her being a succubus lmao. Also was thinking of Grunt for second fire team so he can die in battle like a true krogan warrior should. "good fight shepard" Which would mean Jacob for the vents (or non loyal legion). Jack, Kasumi, Thane all dead with no ship upgrades. That would leave Garrus, Mordin, Morinth/Samara, Legion/Jacob for the hold the line. But I think this would mean only mordin dies at hold the line? So I would be left with Garrus, Tali, Morinth/Samara, Legion making it thru. Perhaps I should have tali escort the crew (which btw I'm letting half die, cause we don't stan that abomination that bioware put in ME:LE that's supposed to be "kelly") for her to survive and not die at the hold the line. Then I could take Garrus to the reaper with miranda. But then not loyal Zaeed is still alive. Idk shit's tough lmao it's way harder to kill people off than it is to have them survive!
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Post by 14thcommander on May 30, 2021 6:11:10 GMT
Getting the breath scene playing a default ME3 playthrough will not happen. The most can get is about 7150. There is a thread mentioning missing war assets. I would guess a patch will be released to fix those, and Bioware might lower the requirement for the breath scene so someone can get it if he/she were to do a default ME3 playthrough. From what I could tell, the dev team's intent was to make the war assets matter across the entire trilogy, so I'd actually be surprised if they did this. And I kind of hope they don't. I don’t know what the cut off is for the breathe scene but I got it at 7500 and I played through the entire trilogy. Someone did mention that maybe having the Geth and Quarians on your side had more to do with it but I’m really not sure how all of those things are taken into consideration for the breathe scene.
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Post by Monica21 on May 30, 2021 15:37:10 GMT
From what I could tell, the dev team's intent was to make the war assets matter across the entire trilogy, so I'd actually be surprised if they did this. And I kind of hope they don't. I don’t know what the cut off is for the breathe scene but I got it at 7500 and I played through the entire trilogy. Someone did mention that maybe having the Geth and Quarians on your side had more to do with it but I’m really not sure how all of those things are taken into consideration for the breathe scene. Yeah, together they're worth over 1000, so that's a good-sized chunk.
I'm still really interested in the Aralakh Company war assets though. I'm not sure how many people will go that route so I may not find out until I get there in ME3.
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