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Post by fairdragon on Aug 23, 2021 9:18:08 GMT
But i think like DA 2 and DAI (Leliana and Cullen doesn´t count because they aren´t companions) before we had 3 already established companions.
1. The Bridge companion which connects DAI and DA4. In my opinion Harding is there the best option. 2. The Bioware writerpet aka Calpernia 3. And Maevaris for Bioware wanted to set a sign for the first transgender companion in a Bioware game. "Also we are deeply Sorry for DA 2 Serendipity and Andromeda´s Hainly Abrams."
1.yes, but all the time it is companion - companion. So i hope as mention new characters are needed we get non. 2. I think Harlyqun, because there are world staat difference for Calpernia. I think she wouldn't work well. 3. Yes. comic/book character - companion. 4. also an NPC from DA2 as companion could be possible. DA2 has Isabella and Merrill from DAO. But i don't know.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 23, 2021 12:02:54 GMT
2. I think Harlyqun, because there are world staat difference for Calpernia. I think she wouldn't work well. Actually there is no real difference. If you went the Mage path, then she survives. If you went the Templar path and let her go, she survives. If you went the Templar path and fought her, she leaps off a cliff into a waterfall at the end of the battle and you never see her body, so there is every possibility should could have survived. This is also true of her entry in WoT2, which leaves her outcome as ambiguous. Would also mention that Calpernia was not her real name but one she took for herself, so she could even pop up under a different name, which would certainly make it harder for her progress to be tracked after the Temple of Mythal. If she also rejected the Venatori as a organisation, she might also have wanted to adopt a different identity. For all we know, may be the "Viper" is now her pseudonym. 4. also an NPC from DA2 as companion could be possible. DA2 has Isabella and Merrill from DAO. But i don't know. I can't really think of anyone from DA2 that would really qualify as memorable enough. Well, there is one, Feynriel, but sadly he has different outcomes that probably mitigate against that possibility. If they could find a way around that, he would make for a valuable companion though; a Dreamer on our side to counter Solas. That would be awesome.
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Post by Guardian on Aug 23, 2021 14:00:30 GMT
gervaise21, as I said, I don't recall exactly (it's been a while since I touched Inquisition), but the person that I know very much hated Dorian because of his thoughts and stances on Tevinter. He called Dorian, and I quote, "A traitor to his people."
Like I said, I don't remember exactly what Dorian said. Not the end of the world really.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 23, 2021 14:38:47 GMT
He called Dorian, and I quote, "A traitor to his people." Since I can't see into everyone's mind, I really don't know where that person was going with this. Whilst Dorian continually harps on about being a "pariah" and seems to rather revel in it, so far as I can tell thing the majority of Altus in Tevinter have against him is that he is "out and proud" about his sexuality, whereas you are meant to go with the status quo in public and then do what you like behind closed doors (particularly with slaves). So may be the poster was taking the view that Dorian's father did, that he should have conformed to the rules to keep the family line going but to be honest there are no shortage of mage children in Tevinter and his father could have adopted someone willing to tow the line as his heir. Presumably there must have been near relatives that would have been suitable. Honestly, though, I hardly think Dorian's open sexuality as sufficient grounds to describe him as a "traitor". However, having an affair with a Qunari spy would qualify, even if that individual claimed to have been rejected by them. Nevertheless, so far as the writers of the game are concerned, that didn't seem to bother the folks back home (and make no mistake they must have heard about it), since he ended up having his seat on the Magisterium confirmed (which could have been stripped from him like Alexius if they thought he was a liability) and being made the official Tevinter ambassador to the Exalted Council. I don't care how much Dorian downplayed this and claimed it was because they didn't respect the Council, you don't make someone your official ambassador to anywhere unless you think they are going to represent your country properly and work for their best interests. Mind you, judging by their poor show overall in defending their country in recent years, the intelligence network must be pretty useless, so may be they didn't know what he was up to with the Iron Bull.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 23, 2021 15:07:48 GMT
Don't know about Hawke dying to the Spider Demon; Stroud usually dies to it, though so....
And yes, Meredith and Anders both are a joke to me. Anders especially....he was a major dumbass....and while we're at it, throw Orisino in there, too!
Ah yes, Orsino the man who went from completly reasonable to "let's turn into a monster and kill everyone". In the last minute of his life. Anders was just nuts and obsessed but Orsino knew better. As for Hawk, I don't think I have ever had him die in DAI. Just couldn't do it and also couldn't have Alistar as the warden for the same reason.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 23, 2021 16:09:49 GMT
Those stupid oppressed people, always thinking and whining about their oppression.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 23, 2021 16:16:17 GMT
Those stupid oppressed people, always thinking and whining about their oppression. Wait till you hear about Afghanistan.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 23, 2021 16:22:47 GMT
1.yes, but all the time it is companion - companion. So i hope as mention new characters are needed we get non. But it isn´t possible this time. Edit: Varric for a third time would be pretty lame. If Dorian won´t be romance this would be so easy but i think that for the first time we don´t get a returning companion. Also a small reminder Varric wasn´t planned originally to be in DAI. If the DA 2 Addon had been a thing he would be killed off at the end. And in this case we won´t have Varric back and Blackwall as a dwarf. Pretty early concept art.
Who?!? gervaise21 has already explained this but this won´t be a problem. In all possible world states Calpernia still exist and is "well" after DAI. Bioware save her for DA4 and not just for a small cameo.
I can't really think of anyone from DA2 that would really qualify as memorable enough. Well, there is one, Feynriel, but sadly he has different outcomes that probably mitigate against that possibility. If they could find a way around that, he would make for a valuable companion though; a Dreamer on our side to counter Solas. That would be awesome. Come on you can just think about Feynriel? No love for Charade Amell?
It know its highly unlikely that he reappear again but in my first DA 2 playthrough i thought that Maaras could have been an interessing companion. Edit: Maybe i am the only one in the fandom but i could see an adult Bevin as DA 4 companion.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 23, 2021 16:27:14 GMT
Those stupid oppressed people, always thinking and whining about their oppression. Wait till you hear about Afghanistan. Nice try, Patroclus, but I've played all the Dragon Age games multiple times, you can't fool me with character names you made up.
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Post by Guardian on Aug 23, 2021 16:31:04 GMT
Since I can't see into everyone's mind, I really don't know where that person was going with this. Whilst Dorian continually harps on about being a "pariah" and seems to rather revel in it, so far as I can tell thing the majority of Altus in Tevinter have against him is that he is "out and proud" about his sexuality, whereas you are meant to go with the status quo in public and then do what you like behind closed doors (particularly with slaves). So may be the poster was taking the view that Dorian's father did, that he should have conformed to the rules to keep the family line going but to be honest there are no shortage of mage children in Tevinter and his father could have adopted someone willing to tow the line as his heir. Presumably there must have been near relatives that would have been suitable. Honestly, though, I hardly think Dorian's open sexuality as sufficient grounds to describe him as a "traitor". However, having an affair with a Qunari spy would qualify, even if that individual claimed to have been rejected by them. Nevertheless, so far as the writers of the game are concerned, that didn't seem to bother the folks back home (and make no mistake they must have heard about it), since he ended up having his seat on the Magisterium confirmed (which could have been stripped from him like Alexius if they thought he was a liability) and being made the official Tevinter ambassador to the Exalted Council. I don't care how much Dorian downplayed this and claimed it was because they didn't respect the Council, you don't make someone your official ambassador to anywhere unless you think they are going to represent your country properly and work for their best interests. Mind you, judging by their poor show overall in defending their country in recent years, the intelligence network must be pretty useless, so may be they didn't know what he was up to with the Iron Bull.
To be honest, I don't really know. He didn't really elaborate more than the fact that he felt Dorian should have been someone to, "show what Tevinter truly was about."I do know that he feels Tevinter's way of doing magic and the Chantry should be all over Thedas. And I do know he typically skews more in favor of things like Necromancy and "evil". He was fine with Dorian coming out and not happy with what his father tried to do to him. He's also pro Blood Magic, and is fine with how it's used (except he didn't like when Dorian's father tried to change him).
I'd ask him to elaborate again, but we haven't spoken about as long as I haven't played Inquisition, really
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 23, 2021 16:38:06 GMT
Wait till you hear about Afghanistan. Nice try, Patroclus, but I've played all the Dragon Age games multiple times, you can't fool me with character names you made up. Patroclus?
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 23, 2021 16:44:34 GMT
That's the nickname for the female Qunari character that has appeared in much of the concept art and people hope is going to be a companion in DA4. Come on you can just think about Feynriel? No love for Charade Amell? Sorry, she slipped my mind. I had been hoping for Charade in DAI but we got Sera from the Jennies instead. However, since it turns out Charade is from the Jennies as well and is currently based much nearer to Tevinter, seeing her up in Tevinter itself isn't beyond the bounds of possibility, particularly as Tevinter Nights seemed to hint at a Jenny presence there. I have to admit she would make a suitable connection with both DA2 and DAI. an adult Bevin as DA 4 companion. Well, I recall he did become a hero in the epilogue to DAO didn't he? Still he's probably too obscure a character and too far back in the timeline to count as a tie-in character between games.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 23, 2021 17:05:31 GMT
That's the nickname for the female Qunari character that has appeared in much of the concept art and people hope is going to be a companion in DA4. Ok. The female Qunari well its concept arts and many things can change but i think that Ghost Rider / Mortalitasi thing / Audric Felhausen? and the Femqun are pretty safe. Too unique for scrapping them. Theoretically still yes but i think her ship has sailed. She would have been a fine Exalted March companion. Yes and besides the many choices he always survived DAO with or without his sword of this grandfather. Nothing is more obscure than DAO Sera. And yes i know that was just a laugh from unseen little girl back then.
Who said that he should be a tie-in character? He is just sweet sweet DAO nostalgia and for those who haven´t played DAO a complete new character. You don´t need to know his backstory. He is just an ferelden adventurer (warrior or rogue) with a sword.
And personality could be anything.
Maybe you have played Fallout 4? I would compare this Bevin idea with the MacCready character who was
just a child (the major of Little Lamplight) in Fallout 3 and become as an adult a companion in F4.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 23, 2021 20:07:37 GMT
Since I can't see into everyone's mind, I really don't know where that person was going with this. Whilst Dorian continually harps on about being a "pariah" and seems to rather revel in it, so far as I can tell thing the majority of Altus in Tevinter have against him is that he is "out and proud" about his sexuality, whereas you are meant to go with the status quo in public and then do what you like behind closed doors (particularly with slaves). So may be the poster was taking the view that Dorian's father did, that he should have conformed to the rules to keep the family line going but to be honest there are no shortage of mage children in Tevinter and his father could have adopted someone willing to tow the line as his heir. Presumably there must have been near relatives that would have been suitable. Honestly, though, I hardly think Dorian's open sexuality as sufficient grounds to describe him as a "traitor". However, having an affair with a Qunari spy would qualify, even if that individual claimed to have been rejected by them. Nevertheless, so far as the writers of the game are concerned, that didn't seem to bother the folks back home (and make no mistake they must have heard about it), since he ended up having his seat on the Magisterium confirmed (which could have been stripped from him like Alexius if they thought he was a liability) and being made the official Tevinter ambassador to the Exalted Council. I don't care how much Dorian downplayed this and claimed it was because they didn't respect the Council, you don't make someone your official ambassador to anywhere unless you think they are going to represent your country properly and work for their best interests. Mind you, judging by their poor show overall in defending their country in recent years, the intelligence network must be pretty useless, so may be they didn't know what he was up to with the Iron Bull.
To be honest, I don't really know. He didn't really elaborate more than the fact that he felt Dorian should have been someone to, "show what Tevinter truly was about."I do know that he feels Tevinter's way of doing magic and the Chantry should be all over Thedas. And I do know he typically skews more in favor of things like Necromancy and "evil". He was fine with Dorian coming out and not happy with what his father tried to do to him. He's also pro Blood Magic, and is fine with how it's used (except he didn't like when Dorian's father tried to change him).
I'd ask him to elaborate again, but we haven't spoken about as long as I haven't played Inquisition, really
Okay who are you guys talking about? I don't remember anyone talking about dorian this way. Is it comics?
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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 23, 2021 20:09:41 GMT
Come on you can just think about Feynriel? No love for Charade Amell? Sorry, she slipped my mind. I had been hoping for Charade in DAI but we got Sera from the Jennies instead. However, since it turns out Charade is from the Jennies as well and is currently based much nearer to Tevinter, seeing her up in Tevinter itself isn't beyond the bounds of possibility, particularly as Tevinter Nights seemed to hint at a Jenny presence there. I have to admit she would make a suitable connection with both DA2 and DAI. So we could get a quarter hawk? Charade isn't a Hawk but close enough. Also she was awesome and could count as a tie in.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Aug 23, 2021 20:39:38 GMT
1) DAI!Hawke: "Corypheus is muh responsibility!!!" *dies to spider demon* Meredith and Anders: "Are we a joke to you?"
Don't know about Hawke dying to the Spider Demon; Stroud usually dies to it, though so....
And yes, Meredith and Anders both are a joke to me. Anders especially....he was a major dumbass....and while we're at it, throw Orisino in there, too!
So much about intentionally missing the point.
Don't know about Hawke dying to the Spider Demon; Stroud usually dies to it, though so....
And yes, Meredith and Anders both are a joke to me. Anders especially....he was a major dumbass....and while we're at it, throw Orisino in there, too!
Ah yes, Orsino the man who went from completly reasonable to "let's turn into a monster and kill everyone". In the last minute of his life. Anders was just nuts and obsessed but Orsino knew better. As for Hawk, I don't think I have ever had him die in DAI. Just couldn't do it and also couldn't have Alistar as the warden for the same reason. Well, you do have to make up a nonsensical after-the-fact justification for siding with Meredith so templar fans don't riot, eh? Those stupid oppressed people, always thinking and whining about their oppression. Wait till you hear about Afghanistan. "bUt WhAt AbOuT cHiNa???!?!?" ...
"Quit harping about Bioware's supposedly bad business decisions, SirPetrakus. There are people starving in Africa."
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Post by Guardian on Aug 23, 2021 20:43:30 GMT
@garrusfan - no, someone I used to game with who also is/was a Dragon Age fan. He is very Pro-Tevinter and said Dorian was a traitor to his people for whatever reason. @buckledemon - Sorry! When I wrote that Sunday (yesterday) it was not the best day for me, so...I wasn't thinking with all cylinders firing. To be fair, I think I still miss the joke, but that's okay. It's just nice to have friendly talks on this board
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 23, 2021 21:28:54 GMT
Charade isn't a Hawk but close enough. She is an Amell and this isn´t that bad especially if you play the Human Mage Origin in DAO.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 24, 2021 8:27:46 GMT
As for Hawk, I don't think I have ever had him die in DAI. Just couldn't do it and also couldn't have Alistar as the warden for the same reason. My hawk die most of the time. I have no connection with him/her. My least favorite protagonist. I don't know stroud and so i find it unfair simply sacrificing him out of personal feelings. So while role playing my inquisitor found it mostly hawks responsibility to die.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 24, 2021 8:57:28 GMT
1.yes, but all the time it is companion - companion. So i hope as mention new characters are needed we get non. But it isn´t possible this time. Edit: Varric for a third time would be pretty lame. If Dorian won´t be romance this would be so easy but i think that for the first time we don´t get a returning companion. Also a small reminder Varric wasn´t planned originally to be in DAI. If the DA 2 Addon had been a thing he would be killed off at the end. And in this case we won´t have Varric back and Blackwall as a dwarf. Pretty early concept art.
Blackwall as drwaf would have been cool, but Varric dead would be sad.
Who?!?
A femal Qunari Companion. The dev. are hyped to create one. And they give her the nickname Harlyqun.
I can't really think of anyone from DA2 that would really qualify as memorable enough. Well, there is one, Feynriel, but sadly he has different outcomes that probably mitigate against that possibility. If they could find a way around that, he would make for a valuable companion though; a Dreamer on our side to counter Solas. That would be awesome. Come on you can just think about Feynriel? No love for Charade Amell?
I think she is silly.
It know its highly unlikely that he reappear again but in my first DA 2 playthrough i thought that Maaras could have been an interessing companion. Edit: Maybe i am the only one in the fandom but i could see an adult Bevin as DA 4 companion.
I would love Bevin to be an Companion. So we have connection to DAO as well.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 24, 2021 9:01:16 GMT
Wait till you hear about Afghanistan. Nice try, Patroclus, but I've played all the Dragon Age games multiple times, you can't fool me with character names you made up. Sorry, do you follow news. this: "Afghanistan" is no character. It is a country. I can only assume that you are kidding us.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 25, 2021 22:49:07 GMT
Imagine the outcry from the Varric fans if he turns out to have a big role and be unromanceable. Or alternatively killed off in the first half-hour.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 26, 2021 0:04:08 GMT
I don't think they'll kill off Varric, especially not early on. He has a perfect use as the avatar and the everyman, the player's hairy little guide. However, he does need to have a connection to the plot that's more than that.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 26, 2021 0:58:41 GMT
That brings me to the question: if they were to kill off a returning character, which character do you think they'd kill off? Answering with Solas is cheating.
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Post by yarus on Aug 26, 2021 3:50:05 GMT
That brings me to the question: if they were to kill off a returning character, which character do you think they'd kill off? Answering with Solas is cheating. Cullen's super dead but that's the easy answer. Honestly with how limited the Inquisition's reach is both in the wartable missions and comics I wouldn't be surprised to see them get roflstomped in the prologue. I could definitely see Varric getting the ax, he overstayed his welcome in DAI and his comic appearances kinda spits in the face of his accepting the role of Viscount. Also Morrigan. I could totally see her getting wrapped up in Solas's schemes or even getting enslaved by him(via the Well Drinking + Solas absorbing Mythal's essence). Or at least a version of her who did the OWB + Well drinking.
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