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Post by midnightwolf on Aug 26, 2022 1:25:46 GMT
Interesting. I did not get that in my lone femshep playthrough w/ James at all. I did have her go professional on him at the beginning, though. No doubt you choosing to not have FemShep behave like a horny teen had an impact. The fact it was needed is......unsettling.
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Post by jamiecotc on Aug 26, 2022 17:12:56 GMT
Interesting. I did not get that in my lone femshep playthrough w/ James at all. I did have her go professional on him at the beginning, though. No doubt you choosing to not have FemShep behave like a horny teen had an impact. The fact it was needed is......unsettling. James flirts with femshep through the entire game due to one line. The option to shut him down doesn't take place until late in the game and in Citadel DLC. why BW wrote the Citadel scene like that w/ him is beyond me. I get that they took shortcuts w/ some lines, like the time Tali acts all flustered around femshep or that one cringe worthy bit of dialogue between femshep and Jacob when they first meet. I guess it's like Miranda's butt shots or mShep's option to practically rape Jack or when femshep gets harassed in ME1 and ME2. There's sexual innuendo throughout ME and DA.
Getting back to James, my cannon Shep romanced Liara and had no interest in him at all, but the after the fight, the game only gave me the option to flirt with him or pull rank. I would have preferred a third option.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 29, 2022 15:57:42 GMT
James flirts with femshep through the entire game due to one line. Is in the line about how the bed isn't as soft as it looks? I've never played FemShep but it seems like a reasonable place for it to have happened.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 29, 2022 16:35:32 GMT
James flirts with femshep through the entire game due to one line. Is in the line about how the bed isn't as soft as it looks? I've never played FemShep but it seems like a reasonable place for it to have happened. From what I remember, Vega flirts with Femshep after the sparring fight, then it ends with Femshep flirting back when Vega is getting that tattoo on his back.
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Post by jamiecotc on Aug 30, 2022 3:11:50 GMT
James flirts with femshep through the entire game due to one line. Is in the line about how the bed isn't as soft as it looks? I've never played FemShep but it seems like a reasonable place for it to have happened. No. If you insist he call Shepard "Commander" then it blocks off the flirting. It's just after the sparing match, very early on in the game.
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Post by jamiecotc on Aug 30, 2022 3:26:21 GMT
Is in the line about how the bed isn't as soft as it looks? I've never played FemShep but it seems like a reasonable place for it to have happened. From what I remember, Vega flirts with Femshep after the sparring fight, then it ends with Femshep flirting back when Vega is getting that tattoo on his back. Pretty much. James asks her if she came to watch the show, meaning watch him work out. The player can flirt a little or not, then the match begins. If the player insists James call her Commander at the end of the match, the flirting ends there. Players asked for choices that mattered or changed the game in a significant way. Perhaps this was a test. It's similar to hardening Leliana early on w/ one line in DA:I.If the Inquisitor tells her to kill the informant early in the game, she will kill another character much later in the game no matter what the Inquisitor says.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 30, 2022 21:32:14 GMT
Is in the line about how the bed isn't as soft as it looks? I've never played FemShep but it seems like a reasonable place for it to have happened. No. If you insist he call Shepard "Commander" then it blocks off the flirting. It's just after the sparing match, very early on in the game. Ah. BroShep can say whatever he wants so I never knew.
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Post by mtheillusive on Sept 11, 2022 23:55:00 GMT
After playing the Legendary Edition of all 3 games and Andromeda for what will be the final time...I have a lot of thoughts.
First, I want to say I had an absolute ball with the Legendary Edition. Did some things a bit differently than I did in the past, and with the upgraded grahics it was nothing short of the best gaming experience I ever had (which technically belonged to the original versions of the game lmao). One of the most standout things was mission order, 3 in particular stands out, for I decided to do the Citadel Cerberus Attack and the mission portion of the DLC back to back in one super long mission, which for some reason really brought the game to life for me (2 terrorist attacks in one day, full access to the citadel for the rest of the game, and since the craziest missions were out the way the rest of the game has a very serious war tone, and as i always kept the collocter base to make the story more interesting....it really shined here. Had an absolute ball). Thank you BioWare!
I was worried about Andromeda due to how good the original are, especially with the graphics upgrade, but once again with a few changes it actually turned out extremely well, under 2 and 3 but ALMOST tied with 1. Enjoyed it far more than I ever had before.
HOWEVER,....
Due to how good the trilogy playthrough was, I was content. Fully content. I didn't have a desire for Shepard to return before, but I really really reallly don't now lol. Their story was amazing, but there's nowhere else for it to go. And the story setting as a whole. Bringing them back as the main is basically like milking a dead cow. I enjoyed it, ending included, and I'm happy with it.
Likewise, while I did enjoy the game, the plot and current setting of Andromeda (even with potential updates due to unfinished situations) ALSO does not due Ryder any favors, and what potential is there I basically a rehash of the original games (Jardann attackers similar to Reaper threat, Benefactor - Cerberus, etc etc.). Not a lot new to build on for Ryder.
This issue also applies to the Milky Way for those destroy ending fanatics. Just like Andromeda was leading to Trilogy 2.0, a post destroy ending and rebuilding phase game is literally Andromeda 2.0. Same damn plot.
So with that said, my current desire would be (IF theres to be a new game at all), that theres a new protagonist. On top of that, connect both galaxies via a relay, but far down the line enough where neither Shepard NOR Ryder is a factor. A good portion of the Milky Way has recovered from the war regardless of ending, many relays fixed, and basically create a whole brand new and exciting setting (basically this is Star Trek TNG compared to TOS). The history of both galaxies is there, many things happened in them that can be explored throughout the game via protagonist and the codex. Just like how the rebellions, rachni wars, geth war, etc. were major but ancient history that played a part in the main games, so should be the Trilogy fallout and Andromeda as it is currently. Those histories help form the backbone of the universe/setting that a whole new story is based on.
Also, whether through memories, a whole separate game, some sort of online thing like the archives, etc., there can be some closure created for those so desperate to a longer explained ending for Ryder or Shepard.
Anyway, bring on a new protagonist!!!
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 12, 2022 14:00:01 GMT
This issue also applies to the Milky Way for those destroy ending fanatics*. Just like Andromeda was leading to Trilogy 2.0, a post destroy ending and rebuilding phase game is literally Andromeda 2.0. Same damn plot. First of all, I have to fix something for you: *realists. Second, it's not the same, though it can perhaps feel that way on a very surface level. The AI isn't rebuilding anything. They didn't have anything to start. They expected to just swoop in and drop down settlements. Instead it's a real frontier where they have to fight the natives (or make peace) and then slowly build up their colonies. This is very much a frontier game rather than a post-apocalypse game. This is not a position on the game so much as what it's actually about.
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Post by hulluliini on Sept 13, 2022 9:03:37 GMT
After playingfor what will be the final time Why?
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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 13, 2022 16:18:59 GMT
Right now I simply don't trust that Bioware can create a good new setting within the Mass Effect universe. You set a milky way game 600 years in the future and it will probably be just as trash as Andromeda - and there goes the milky way.
New protagonist or not I believe the next game' has to have heavy links to the trilogy. It's why I always advocate for a prequel because you already have this great setting to play around with that is untainted by Andromeda, or the endings.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 16:24:42 GMT
Right now I simply don't trust that Bioware can create a good new setting within the Mass Effect universe. You set a milky way game 600 years in the future and it will probably be just as trash as Andromeda - and there goes the milky way. New protagonist or not I believe the next game' has to have heavy links to the trilogy. It's why I always advocate for a prequel because you already have this great setting to play around with that is untainted by Andromeda, or the endings. Well the only prequel that would make sense would be the first contact war with the Humans and the Turians since Humanity had just discovered mass effect tech. Cerberus would be there too but we already know who the illusive man is and what he looks like. The same can be said for Anderson unless we get to see him blow his chance to be a Spectre from a thirdperson perspective as a party member.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 13, 2022 22:05:17 GMT
New protagonist or not I believe the next game' has to have heavy links to the trilogy. It's why I always advocate for a prequel because you already have this great setting to play around with that is untainted by Andromeda, or the endings. If it were a prequel I'd want it to somehow revolve around Shepard's pre-service record. I don't want FCW. This still gives us Shepard, still gives us a lot of options, but also gives us a version that's less experienced. Can you imagine playing the experience that made you the Butcher of Torfan? Hero of Elysium? Or even Sole Survivor? The Shepard that hasn't fully come to terms with having survived the batarian raid on Minoir, who still has some doubts. Or the Shepard who has a rocky relationship with Mom (or Dad, though we've never seen him referenced) before having acceptance about the situation in ME1? Still having fairly recent connections to the Tenth Street Reds? And everything Shepard does is, in some ways, hindered by just being an Alliance marine. No Spectre status to use as a shield.
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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 14, 2022 21:16:01 GMT
Contrary to popular belief a Mass Effect prequel doesn't have to revolve around the First Contact War. I'd only advocate for the First Contact War to be a jumping off point. Even in just the thirty years there's plenty of stories that can be told.
And from a narrative standpoint it would be super interesting to see humanity in the ME universe before they became the absolute best at everything.
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Post by NotN7 on Sept 15, 2022 2:18:59 GMT
I see what your saying but Shepard is done a prequel doesn't work game mechanic wise not enough there to make an interesting game, I sure wouldn't buy it as for seeing humanity before they became the best I'm sure a book covers that if not it would make an interesting Anime but that's just me I would rather have a new protagonist and a post Milkyway with its problems and those cowards that hid from the reapers trying to take control now that the major powers have been weakened. We will see who knows how the mind works of a Bioware writer.
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Post by hulluliini on Sept 15, 2022 7:53:08 GMT
A prequel about the time when the Protheans dominated the galaxy. You play as one of the vassal races and try to gain independence from them. Or maybe an even earlier era. But yeah I think most players want to play as human so the First Contact War would be the most logical choice.
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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 15, 2022 10:28:49 GMT
The events after the trilogy should get books and anime. The prequel stories should get games.
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Post by lavigne on Nov 2, 2022 22:27:27 GMT
Shepard > New character > Ryder
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 6, 2022 20:46:42 GMT
If Mark Meer and Jen Hale return, at least one if not both Shepards from ME2-3 and ME:Next will be revealed to be a clone.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 7, 2022 17:42:26 GMT
If Mark Meer and Jen Hale return, at least one if not both Shepards from ME2-3 and ME:Next will be revealed to be a clone. This is the easiest thing ever. We had no idea what happened to the clone other than that we assumed they died.
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Post by peashoot on Nov 27, 2022 3:41:44 GMT
N7 is still an important part of the ME identity, so they won't give up on the idea of somehow attaching it to the main character. Just hope it won't be done as poorly as in MEA. Also depends how far into the future ME5 will be, it will dictate the perception of the N7 in that future. Problem is that you cannot really set too much of a personality type for a protagonist, like a jokester-funney man by default. So you need some degree of generic baseline. Suggestions: - Yet another N7 (or other number) military competence-porn soldier person
- Yet another person that struggles with responsibility and doesn't really want to be there (please no more youngster Ryder type like this)
- Some former Cerberus soldier person that used to be N(some number)
- Some freelancer/merc with a former N-program background
- Somewhere in-between first two, a play-doh character that is shaped similarly to Hawke in DA2
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Post by faerlyte on Dec 1, 2022 3:49:53 GMT
It's going to be someone new. If that someone new had the option of being an alien as the main character, I'd be excited about it. Otherwise it might as well just be Shepard again for all I care. I'm pretty done playing human characters when there are so many cool and interesting races that could be explored. Booooring.
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Post by puddingtheruthless on Dec 1, 2022 18:20:16 GMT
New character. Personal preference and just what I think makes the most sense.
Shepard's trilogy is over and I don't see the point in dredging the character up for a new story.
Ryder isn't unsalvageable, but you might as well have a new protagonist that doesn't have the baggage of being a character who has to be fitted into a different story than they were meant to.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 1, 2022 23:04:10 GMT
If there was any justice in this world than Ryder would be back as the lead protagonist it's the best for the series to move forward, there is a ton of story potential and Ryder doesn't have 1/1000th of the baggage that Shepard has.
Since there isn't I'll get probably get stuck with Shepard again (or a Shepard 2.0 type character) and then I have to put up with garbage like "Woke BioWare ruined Shepard!" in my YouTube recommendations and also threads here and elsewhere, then quickly followed by the typical " MEA was a actually great game and is better than ME5" vids and threads, it happens all the time with every other game franchise BioWare has made sequels too.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 1, 2022 23:17:28 GMT
Right now I simply don't trust that Bioware can create a good new setting within the Mass Effect universe. You set a milky way game 600 years in the future and it will probably be just as trash as Andromeda - and there goes the milky way. New protagonist or not I believe the next game' has to have heavy links to the trilogy. It's why I always advocate for a prequel because you already have this great setting to play around with that is untainted by Andromeda, or the endings.
I would rather see a direct sequel to MEA because it's got more untapped storytelling potential than a prequel or sequel set in the MWG will ever have.
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