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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jan 1, 2023 17:21:32 GMT
They would have to do alot of mental gymnastics to justify such a terrible story plot item. 1.They are resource poor in Andromeda(they can barely even feed themselves) 2.They have no idea how to construct a mass relay in Andromeda 3.If they knew how to make mass relays in the Milky way how long would a message take to send with the relevant details decades, generations.well that's Ryder dead of old age. 4.Lets say they have all the resources they needed to construct a relay at either end,the sheer mathematical enormity or linking two seperate galaxies together would take decades to compute and test and finalise. 1. By the end of MEA they are well established in terms of supplies. 2. There is nothing that says they don’t know how. 3. Their communication line with the Milky Way is Quantum Entanglement like in the Normandy which means it will be instantaneously. 4. Except now we have control over the Remnant which their technology will make it quite a lot quicker to do. Remember connecting the two was a long term goal of the Initiative, so they have something in mind. Also it could be the Milky Way sends one over the long way like the Arks, but after the war their technology advances making the trip take far less time. Or one of several other explanations. 1.Not really they have started a handful of outposts, have a small krogan colony and took over the McGuffins at the end,hardly swimming in resources, potentially they have access to alot but that will take years and building a manufacturing base from scratch 2.They didn't know before they left and the Reapers invaded before the races could get into dissecting the relays and learning how they work. 3.I concede that point as i completely forgot about that. 4.The remnant is still relatively unknown tech they are barely understanding, the Andromeda initiative is stretched thin in regards to manpower and talent, it will take many many years irregardless.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 1, 2023 19:27:27 GMT
1. By the end of MEA they are well established in terms of supplies. 2. There is nothing that says they don’t know how. 3. Their communication line with the Milky Way is Quantum Entanglement like in the Normandy which means it will be instantaneously. 4. Except now we have control over the Remnant which their technology will make it quite a lot quicker to do. Remember connecting the two was a long term goal of the Initiative, so they have something in mind. Also it could be the Milky Way sends one over the long way like the Arks, but after the war their technology advances making the trip take far less time. Or one of several other explanations. 1.Not really they have started a handful of outposts, have a small krogan colony and took over the McGuffins at the end,hardly swimming in resources, potentially they have access to alot but that will take years and building a manufacturing base from scratch 2.They didn't know before they left and the Reapers invaded before the races could get into dissecting the relays and learning how they work. 3.I concede that point as i completely forgot about that. 4.The remnant is still relatively unknown tech they are barely understanding, the Andromeda initiative is stretched thin in regards to manpower and talent, it will take many many years irregardless. The Vaults are terraforming the worlds to be golden again, so within a short amount of time they will be. Some discussions in the past talk about how it’s hinted we might know how to build them, like Aethyta’s comments or studying the Conduit to the AI having that as a mission before they leave (plus perhaps the Benefactor knows how and gave that info). Plus their connection to the Milky Way so if the MW knows they can tell them. Agree it will still take years. Just saying it wouldn’t take decades so Ryder can still be alive and active when completed.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 2, 2023 5:08:31 GMT
Assuming they touch on it again, the vaults will fix the worlds at the speed of plot. They have not given a set timeline so its done when it fits the story they want to tell.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 2, 2023 5:12:50 GMT
The franchise is done for. It'll have to compete against Starfield and vie for new audience - I doubt BW can pull it off. DA maybe, but not ME. I don't think so. They are going more hard limited sci fi with star field. I'll play it, I'll likely love it but it wont scratch a mass effect itch as it wont have space magic, it wont have crazy tech, it may not even have aliens. I know there are fans for that genre of sci fi, but im not sure they cross over with mass effect fans in a way that one would be competing for the audience of the other. It will be like star trek and star wars, some people will like both but the people who only like one of them wouldn't like the other even if the one they liked did not exist.
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Post by hulluliini on Jan 2, 2023 9:14:49 GMT
Unless they create a connection between the galaxies like a Mass Relay, which would make it almost instantaneous. Or some sort of wormhole or time travel shenanigans. They would have to do alot of mental gymnastics to justify such a terrible story plot item. 1.They are resource poor in Andromeda(they can barely even feed themselves) 2.They have no idea how to construct a mass relay in Andromeda 3.If they knew how to make mass relays in the Milky way how long would a message take to send with the relevant details decades, generations.well that's Ryder dead of old age. 4.Lets say they have all the resources they needed to construct a relay at either end,the sheer mathematical enormity or linking two seperate galaxies together would take decades to compute and test and finalise. They can just say that some newly discovered Remnant technology works as an intergalactic mass relay. Doesn't have to be MW technology or knowledge. Maybe Ryder could accidentally activate a relay like that and zooomm pop up in the MW and join Liara.
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Post by hulluliini on Jan 2, 2023 9:43:56 GMT
Well i can't see it being Ryder as he would have another 600 years to travel just to get back to the milky way and that would be pushing even a Asari like Liaras lifespan as they don't tend to see over 1000 and by the events of Andromeda Liara is at least 700 years old,add another 600 years and she is well beyond most matriarchs lifespans. Liara is Bio's favourite pet, so they'll find a way to keep her in the setting. Even if it's as simple as Liara making clones and implanting her memories into said clone. Liara Clone Army, that would be cool!
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 2, 2023 10:15:50 GMT
Liara is Bio's favourite pet, so they'll find a way to keep her in the setting. Even if it's as simple as Liara making clones and implanting her memories into said clone. Liara Clone Army, that would be cool! Horrifying is more like it....
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2023 17:10:11 GMT
There will also be Rogue Trader to contend with. Personally, I feel Rogue Trader already more appealing.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 4, 2023 17:23:02 GMT
Liara is Bio's favourite pet, so they'll find a way to keep her in the setting. Even if it's as simple as Liara making clones and implanting her memories into said clone. Liara Clone Army, that would be cool! You're right, it would be cool. They wouldn't have to worry about armor. They would just take it from dead bodies.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jan 5, 2023 8:26:50 GMT
1.Not really they have started a handful of outposts, have a small krogan colony and took over the McGuffins at the end,hardly swimming in resources, potentially they have access to alot but that will take years and building a manufacturing base from scratch 2.They didn't know before they left and the Reapers invaded before the races could get into dissecting the relays and learning how they work. 3.I concede that point as i completely forgot about that. 4.The remnant is still relatively unknown tech they are barely understanding, the Andromeda initiative is stretched thin in regards to manpower and talent, it will take many many years irregardless. The Vaults are terraforming the worlds to be golden again, so within a short amount of time they will be. Some discussions in the past talk about how it’s hinted we might know how to build them, like Aethyta’s comments or studying the Conduit to the AI having that as a mission before they leave (plus perhaps the Benefactor knows how and gave that info). Plus their connection to the Milky Way so if the MW knows they can tell them. Agree it will still take years. Just saying it wouldn’t take decades so Ryder can still be alive and active when completed. Still going to take many years and it would still take many years to build a mass effect relay which is probably the same size or larger than all the Arks combined.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jan 5, 2023 8:28:00 GMT
They would have to do alot of mental gymnastics to justify such a terrible story plot item. 1.They are resource poor in Andromeda(they can barely even feed themselves) 2.They have no idea how to construct a mass relay in Andromeda 3.If they knew how to make mass relays in the Milky way how long would a message take to send with the relevant details decades, generations.well that's Ryder dead of old age. 4.Lets say they have all the resources they needed to construct a relay at either end,the sheer mathematical enormity or linking two seperate galaxies together would take decades to compute and test and finalise. They can just say that some newly discovered Remnant technology works as an intergalactic mass relay. Doesn't have to be MW technology or knowledge. Maybe Ryder could accidentally activate a relay like that and zooomm pop up in the MW and join Liara. So your answer is pretty much a Deus ex machina to fill all the holes....great writing there.
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Post by hulluliini on Jan 5, 2023 8:41:27 GMT
They can just say that some newly discovered Remnant technology works as an intergalactic mass relay. Doesn't have to be MW technology or knowledge. Maybe Ryder could accidentally activate a relay like that and zooomm pop up in the MW and join Liara. So your answer is pretty much a Deus ex machina to fill all the holes....great writing there. *in EDI voice* That was a joke.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 5, 2023 8:44:10 GMT
Liara is Bio's favourite pet, so they'll find a way to keep her in the setting. Even if it's as simple as Liara making clones and implanting her memories into said clone. Liara Clone Army, that would be cool! I seem to remember that we already had that in MEA...
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Post by hulluliini on Jan 5, 2023 8:47:59 GMT
Liara Clone Army, that would be cool! I seem to remember that we already had that in MEA... LOL'd. It was actually Lexi Clone Army. (Presumably she was the first asari created for the game.)
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Post by hulluliini on Jan 5, 2023 9:03:47 GMT
Liara Clone Army, that would be cool! You're right, it would be cool. They wouldn't have to worry about armor. They would just take it from dead bodies. Well of course, with all factories obliterated, they would have to scavenge for everything. TIM has a spare cloning laboratory somewhere far away that was spared from the Reapers and Liara uses it to multiply herself.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 5, 2023 19:11:13 GMT
You're right, it would be cool. They wouldn't have to worry about armor. They would just take it from dead bodies. Well of course, with all factories obliterated, they would have to scavenge for everything. TIM has a spare cloning laboratory somewhere far away that was spared from the Reapers and Liara uses it to multiply herself. Well Cerberus has always been for bleed edge technologies and I am sure that T.I.M. has several Cerberus bio labs hidden thru out the galaxy. It would be interesting if Liara(any alignment) vs a protagonist(any faction any alignment) in a race to find and capture all Cerberus Labs thru out the galaxy. I am interested if anyone would play that game if expanded properly. Keep in mind any protagonist can be worked into that plot but a sensible one is a Cerberus Agent or an N7 Officer would have an interest in those labs.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 17, 2023 21:30:13 GMT
1.Not really they have started a handful of outposts, have a small krogan colony and took over the McGuffins at the end,hardly swimming in resources, potentially they have access to alot but that will take years and building a manufacturing base from scratch We don't even know what's happening to the turians since their Golden World was destroyed. That right there would have to be a priority in use of resources. They need a place to live where there's food they can eat. 4.The remnant is still relatively unknown tech they are barely understanding, the Andromeda initiative is stretched thin in regards to manpower and talent, it will take many many years irregardless. Maybe. They dance to the tune of Meridian and Ryder has access to it. Though I guess a Ryder without the tech skills would have no idea what to do - unless all SAMs can access and new SAMs could be placed into scientists. They risk a zha/zha'til situation but what can you do?
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Post by skeptictank on Jan 19, 2023 1:26:21 GMT
I'd prefer a new character entirely. Like a political envoy on a mission to help unify the galaxy during reconstruction after the war. I hope the stakes are smaller than the original trilogy and relegating Shepard to that role feels like a back step for their arc.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 21, 2023 18:19:44 GMT
I'd prefer a new character entirely. Like a political envoy on a mission to help unify the galaxy during reconstruction after the war. I hope the stakes are smaller than the original trilogy and relegating Shepard to that role feels like a back step for their arc. New character, yes. Envoy? Isn't that what Ryder ended up being? I'm all for a galaxy that's trying to rebuild itself. However, I'd also have to assume that the Terminus Systems would take advantage and begin eating away at the Attican Traverse. The new MC might focus on pushing them back. Yes, this would be part of reconstruction and unification but it shouldn't be an easy task and it shouldn't be something that could come easily. Having a diplomat aboard might be useful who would handle wooing settlements who joined up with the pirates and such for protection. The MC could remove the pirate forces and then the diplomat could begin the process of bringing them into the fold.
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Post by skeptictank on Jan 25, 2023 21:48:39 GMT
I'd prefer a new character entirely. Like a political envoy on a mission to help unify the galaxy during reconstruction after the war. I hope the stakes are smaller than the original trilogy and relegating Shepard to that role feels like a back step for their arc. New character, yes. Envoy? Isn't that what Ryder ended up being? I'm all for a galaxy that's trying to rebuild itself. However, I'd also have to assume that the Terminus Systems would take advantage and begin eating away at the Attican Traverse. The new MC might focus on pushing them back. Yes, this would be part of reconstruction and unification but it shouldn't be an easy task and it shouldn't be something that could come easily. Having a diplomat aboard might be useful who would handle wooing settlements who joined up with the pirates and such for protection. The MC could remove the pirate forces and then the diplomat could begin the process of bringing them into the fold. I guess I mean envoy in terms of the actions they take in the story, not their actual job description. Military attaché might be more accurate. And although I don't need them to be military, they should definitely have more experience than Ryder. That said, Ryder's was a flaw of execution more than anything. I emphasize the political side to leave room for world building. Plus the council was inept in the trilogy. It'd be cool to rub elbows with representatives that are competent (or even malicious), on the macro and micro level. Especially if there's a complex reputation system or factions that are in conflict where you have to choose sides. Your point about the Terminus Systems is spot on.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 25, 2023 22:14:32 GMT
I'd prefer a new character entirely. Like a political envoy on a mission to help unify the galaxy during reconstruction after the war. I hope the stakes are smaller than the original trilogy and relegating Shepard to that role feels like a back step for their arc. New character, yes. Envoy? Isn't that what Ryder ended up being? I'm all for a galaxy that's trying to rebuild itself. However, I'd also have to assume that the Terminus Systems would take advantage and begin eating away at the Attican Traverse. The new MC might focus on pushing them back. Yes, this would be part of reconstruction and unification but it shouldn't be an easy task and it shouldn't be something that could come easily. Having a diplomat aboard might be useful who would handle wooing settlements who joined up with the pirates and such for protection. The MC could remove the pirate forces and then the diplomat could begin the process of bringing them into the fold. Would rather play the diplomat I this scenario than the MC you’re describing. The diplomat in this scenario sounds like it could be interesting, while the MC sounds boring.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 13:38:36 GMT
Irregardless is a meaningless word.
Regardless is what you're looking for.
Never in your life have you irregarded anything. You regard something, or you disregard. "ir-" is a negative prefix, but is not the correct negative prefix. If you are using a negative prefix, you cannot also use a negative suffix ("-less"), otherwise you break one of the cardinal rules of English, the double-negative.
When you say irregardless, most people know what you mean. Some people think you might be poorly educated, while others will disregard you for life based on that one silly word. Why?
Irregardless means regard. Ir cancels less.
Thanks for attending BSN Grammar 101
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Post by Spectr61 on Feb 8, 2023 20:01:42 GMT
Brilliant!
Or, spot on and irreplaceable!
Now, I'm off to not water my lawn by irrigation..... (ha!)
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