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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 16, 2021 22:36:38 GMT
I would rule it out. She's not a good candidate. You know how nuts people get about not being able to make their Shepards look exactly as they want? Imagine if they have zero input. Bioware seems to try to tie the Andromeda saga with Shepard's trilogy. Shepard is either dead or an immortal being that controls the Reapers. Ryder wasn't well-received by fans. Liara and possibly Grunt (excluding synthetics, i.e. EDI) are the only ones that are alive 600 years after the Reaper war, and Grunt isn't nearly as recognized and loved as Liara by the general gaming crowd (not here, where many don't like her). Also, she's a writer's pet. The most probable course of action is getting a new protagonist of course, but I do see the possibility of Bioware trying to pull off something akin to the Witcher games, where you have Geralt as a non-customizable protagonist and an established character. If they're looking for an even bigger flop than MEA, then they'll use Liara. ME is, at its heart, the story of humanity. You take that away and it's not ME anymore. I definitely won't buy it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 16, 2021 22:37:53 GMT
Who do I think? new character. Who do I want? Honestly who cares. Whoever they create is going to be horribly written anyway. That's the issue, right? If the writing had been better, people would have eaten up Ryder and the general storyline. Instead...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2021 4:04:48 GMT
Bioware seems to try to tie the Andromeda saga with Shepard's trilogy. Shepard is either dead or an immortal being that controls the Reapers. Ryder wasn't well-received by fans. Liara and possibly Grunt (excluding synthetics, i.e. EDI) are the only ones that are alive 600 years after the Reaper war, and Grunt isn't nearly as recognized and loved as Liara by the general gaming crowd (not here, where many don't like her). Also, she's a writer's pet. The most probable course of action is getting a new protagonist of course, but I do see the possibility of Bioware trying to pull off something akin to the Witcher games, where you have Geralt as a non-customizable protagonist and an established character. If they're looking for an even bigger flop than MEA, then they'll use Liara. ME is, at its heart, the story of humanity. You take that away and it's not ME anymore. I definitely won't buy it. Humanity hasn't been the heart of ME since ME2. 2, 3, and A all could have involved an alien protagonist and the stories wouldn't be hurt in the slightest for example. Agree using Liara as the PC would sink the franchise though.
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Post by midnightwolf on Sept 18, 2021 19:39:13 GMT
I suspect it will be a new character, though I'd prefer Shepard back.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 19, 2021 14:06:09 GMT
I'd like for the first quarter be about Shepard post ME3 High Destroy Ending and then it transitions 600 years on the future to male Ryder running into Ark 6 as the Ryder story was getting good at the end on MEA and the final mission blows the ME3 final mission out of the water.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 19, 2021 19:06:58 GMT
I'd like for the first quarter be about Shepard post ME3 High Destroy Ending and then it transitions 600 years on the future to male Ryder running into Ark 6 as the Ryder story was getting good at the end on MEA and the final mission blows the ME3 final mission out of the water. A happy epilogue would've been good but i don't think it will happen. What will be cool is if we have a prologue with a recap of the whole major events. Fight through the first contact war with an n7 (alec) or some other unknown character. Then with Shepard or again another character, and then we are on the present, with Ryder 5 years after the events of Andromeda. I think that would've been great with a prologue like that like battlefield did. A big recap with the major events like the teaser.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 19, 2021 19:16:16 GMT
I'd like for the first quarter be about Shepard post ME3 High Destroy Ending and then it transitions 600 years on the future to male Ryder running into Ark 6 as the Ryder story was getting good at the end on MEA and the final mission blows the ME3 final mission out of the water. A happy epilogue would've been good but i don't think it will happen. What will be cool is if we have a prologue with a recap of the whole major events. Fight through the first contact war with an n7 (alec) or some other unknown character. Then with Shepard or again another character, and then we are on the present, with Ryder 5 years after the events of Andromeda. I think that would've been great with a prologue like that like battlefield did. A big recap with the major events like the teaser. Honestly both can happen, just that when we hit Shepard turn we stay with him for an act and then transition to the Ryder continued experiences, they better not pull a ME2 intro for him and his crew.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 19, 2021 19:29:38 GMT
A happy epilogue would've been good but i don't think it will happen. What will be cool is if we have a prologue with a recap of the whole major events. Fight through the first contact war with an n7 (alec) or some other unknown character. Then with Shepard or again another character, and then we are on the present, with Ryder 5 years after the events of Andromeda. I think that would've been great with a prologue like that like battlefield did. A big recap with the major events like the teaser. Honestly both can happen, just that when we hit Shepard turn we stay with him for an act and then transition to the Ryder continued experiences, they better not pull a ME2 intro for him and his crew. It might happen cause there is the mudskipper but I don't think it's gonna be the main ship, most likely the replacement of the nomad cause it's too small so maybe we're not gonna have a me2 situation. Things are gonna get more serious but an intro with Ryder finding leads on the quarian ark while finishing their own relay and showing us how the settlements have evolved, building things with rem tech thanks to peebee's help will be good. We'll see what they came up with very soon.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 19, 2021 20:30:55 GMT
Honestly both can happen, just that when we hit Shepard turn we stay with him for an act and then transition to the Ryder continued experiences, they better not pull a ME2 intro for him and his crew.It might happen cause there is the mudskipper but I don't think it's gonna be the main ship, most likely the replacement of the nomad cause it's too small so maybe we're not gonna have a me2 situation. Things are gonna get more serious but an intro with Ryder finding leads on the quarian ark while finishing their own relay and showing us how the settlements have evolved, building things with rem tech thanks to peebee's help will be good. We'll see what they came up with very soon. We might see more of DA4 on this November and then of ME Next in E3 2022 or in the EA event although we might be getting DA4 promo on next year and just a few more teases of ME Next.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Sept 19, 2021 21:21:03 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 19, 2021 21:31:32 GMT
It might happen cause there is the mudskipper but I don't think it's gonna be the main ship, most likely the replacement of the nomad cause it's too small so maybe we're not gonna have a me2 situation. Things are gonna get more serious but an intro with Ryder finding leads on the quarian ark while finishing their own relay and showing us how the settlements have evolved, building things with rem tech thanks to peebee's help will be good. We'll see what they came up with very soon. We might see more of DA4 on this November and then of ME Next in E3 2022 or in the EA event although we might be getting DA4 promo on next year and just a few more teases of ME Next. Gamble teased that this is gonna be one hell of a year so i think he's cooking up something either for N7, the game awards or both.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 19, 2021 21:37:45 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it. I want to continue my Ryder story but I want to have the opening act and prologue be about Shepard and once it ends we see it is a story Liara is sending to the AI so that we as the Pathfinder explains his team what happened after they left.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 19, 2021 21:47:43 GMT
We might see more of DA4 on this November and then of ME Next in E3 2022 or in the EA event although we might be getting DA4 promo on next year and just a few more teases of ME Next. Gamble teased that this is gonna be one hell of a year so i think he's cooking up something either for N7, the game awards or both. Good, but Gamble has teased a lot of things in regards to ME3 then again, he did honestly admitted before ME3 released that some story bits were cut and were gonna be sold as DLC after release (we should have been more wary of stories like these): samagame.com/en/mass-effect-3-interview-with-mike-gamble/"Eurogamer: What we have seen in just two levels suggests a narrative evolution of enviable proportions, which is the setting for robust and deep gameplay. The meat on the fire is therefore a lot but despite this we ask you: is there something you would have liked to include in Mass Effect 3 and which, in one way or another, have you been forced to give up? “We did not finish throwing down an idea that already came to mind a new one, perhaps even better than the previous one” Mike Gamble: (Smiles) To say that we cut some sequences in a game of this size may seem absurd, but it’s partly true. We did not finish throwing down an idea that we were already thinking of a new one, perhaps even better than the previous one, and that we wanted at all costs to include in the game. You can imagine for yourself how much material we had available! Anyway, I can say that when it hits the shelves next March may not be all: some steps have been cut only temporarily, and will be included in a series of DLC that we are currently planning. True, Shepard’s latest adventure is nothing short of huge but if with some extra content we can make it even more compelling, I don’t see why not! Eurogamer: Precisely by virtue of such a deep narrative system, a player who has never faced the first two chapters of the saga can approach in complete tranquility Mass Effect 3? Or do you think it is recommended to venture into the storyline in order? Mike Gamble: I think that Mass Effect 3 can be faced even by those who do not know the past of the legendary Captain Shepard. Of course, the references to the previous episodes cannot be missing, but they will be rather marginal and will not directly affect the script of this episode: even the set of characters has been completely updated, introducing new personalities unrelated to ME 1 or 2. The fact remains that the veterans of the saga will be able to enjoy the narrative continuity of the episodes, with the possibility of importing their own character created and leveled in ME2." So he also admits of new personalities unrelated to ME 1 and 2 (might mean Vega or change in old characters personalities), so let us keep our hopes down with this same person involved.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Sept 19, 2021 23:30:27 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 20, 2021 1:03:13 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it. I hope they make Commander Shepard the main character again just to piss off the MEA lovers. If they did that today, I would preorder the game.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 20, 2021 3:01:51 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it. I hope they make Commander Shepard the main character again just to piss off the MEA lovers. If they did that today, I would preorder the game. My Cerberus Phantom Commander will piss everyone off because he works for Cerberus and a troll.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 20, 2021 3:50:04 GMT
I hope they make Commander Shepard the main character again just to piss off the MEA lovers. If they did that today, I would preorder the game. My Cerberus Phantom Commander will piss everyone off because he works for Cerberus and a troll. My Shepard will help rebuild Cerberus returning them to their former glory. Eventually the council will merge with Cerberus. Cerberus will become top dog in the galaxy with my Shepard overseeing everyday operations. ALL HAIL CERBERUS!!!!! ALL HAIL TIM!!!! Humanity #1
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 20, 2021 5:45:23 GMT
Gamble teased that this is gonna be one hell of a year so i think he's cooking up something either for N7, the game awards or both. Good, but Gamble has teased a lot of things in regards to ME3 then again, he did honestly admitted before ME3 released that some story bits were cut and were gonna be sold as DLC after release (we should have been more wary of stories like these): samagame.com/en/mass-effect-3-interview-with-mike-gamble/"Eurogamer: What we have seen in just two levels suggests a narrative evolution of enviable proportions, which is the setting for robust and deep gameplay. The meat on the fire is therefore a lot but despite this we ask you: is there something you would have liked to include in Mass Effect 3 and which, in one way or another, have you been forced to give up? “We did not finish throwing down an idea that already came to mind a new one, perhaps even better than the previous one” Mike Gamble: (Smiles) To say that we cut some sequences in a game of this size may seem absurd, but it’s partly true. We did not finish throwing down an idea that we were already thinking of a new one, perhaps even better than the previous one, and that we wanted at all costs to include in the game. You can imagine for yourself how much material we had available! Anyway, I can say that when it hits the shelves next March may not be all: some steps have been cut only temporarily, and will be included in a series of DLC that we are currently planning. True, Shepard’s latest adventure is nothing short of huge but if with some extra content we can make it even more compelling, I don’t see why not! Eurogamer: Precisely by virtue of such a deep narrative system, a player who has never faced the first two chapters of the saga can approach in complete tranquility Mass Effect 3? Or do you think it is recommended to venture into the storyline in order? Mike Gamble: I think that Mass Effect 3 can be faced even by those who do not know the past of the legendary Captain Shepard. Of course, the references to the previous episodes cannot be missing, but they will be rather marginal and will not directly affect the script of this episode: even the set of characters has been completely updated, introducing new personalities unrelated to ME 1 or 2. The fact remains that the veterans of the saga will be able to enjoy the narrative continuity of the episodes, with the possibility of importing their own character created and leveled in ME2." So he also admits of new personalities unrelated to ME 1 and 2 (might mean Vega or change in old characters personalities), so let us keep our hopes down with this same person involved. Hmm i see. I haven't seen his interviews prior to me3's release. The cut content maybe was the citadel(?) Contents always change or get cut before release. The change in personalities thankfully didn't happen, and i hope they don't apply that to Ryder's team. As for the tweet he made, idk. Guess we'll have to wait and see. The only thing i want to know is if we're gonna play as them again or a new pc.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Sept 20, 2021 18:27:06 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it. I want to continue my Ryder story but I want to have the opening act and prologue be about Shepard and once it ends we see it is a story Liara is sending to the AI so that we as the Pathfinder explains his team what happened after they left. This would be perfect for me to be honest. It would give shepard the closure they deserved and get back to ryder who wasn't that bad of a protagonist in my opinion. I am still pissed we didn't get DLC for andromeda.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 20, 2021 18:46:03 GMT
I want to continue my Ryder story but I want to have the opening act and prologue be about Shepard and once it ends we see it is a story Liara is sending to the AI so that we as the Pathfinder explains his team what happened after they left. This would be perfect for me to be honest. It would give shepard the closure they deserved and get back to ryder who wasn't that bad of a protagonist in my opinion. I am still pissed we didn't get DLC for andromeda. But we did got DLC for Andromeda, it was called a novel regarding Ark 6 
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 20, 2021 20:42:44 GMT
I hope they make Pathfinder Ryder the lead protagonist again just to piss MEA haters off. If they did that today I would pre-order it. I want to continue my Ryder story but I want to have the opening act and prologue be about Shepard and once it ends we see it is a story Liara is sending to the AI so that we as the Pathfinder explains his team what happened after they left. What would the prologue with Shepard be, and why should it exist when it is an entire galaxy away from the plot of the game?
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 20, 2021 22:02:12 GMT
This would be perfect for me to be honest. It would give shepard the closure they deserved and get back to ryder who wasn't that bad of a protagonist in my opinion. I am still pissed we didn't get DLC for andromeda. But we did got DLC for Andromeda, it was called a novel regarding Ark 6  Downloadable content? Yes, I know you're joking.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 20, 2021 22:59:57 GMT
I want to continue my Ryder story but I want to have the opening act and prologue be about Shepard and once it ends we see it is a story Liara is sending to the AI so that we as the Pathfinder explains his team what happened after they left. What would the prologue with Shepard be, and why should it exist when it is an entire galaxy away from the plot of the game? Both galaxies will likely be involved in the next game up to a certain point I suspect, so having that background will help.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 21, 2021 1:16:35 GMT
What would the prologue with Shepard be, and why should it exist when it is an entire galaxy away from the plot of the game? Both galaxies will likely be involved in the next game up to a certain point I suspect, so having that background will help. Doubt the two galaxies would connect to the point of helping until the end of the next game. And the people in Andromeda already have all the background they need. The only thing they missed was the events of ME3, but Ryder knows some of what happened with Alec's loga and the AI is trying to establish contact with the Milky Way as planned already.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 21, 2021 1:28:43 GMT
Both galaxies will likely be involved in the next game up to a certain point I suspect, so having that background will help. Doubt the two galaxies would connect to the point of helping until the end of the next game. And the people in Andromeda already have all the background they need. The only thing they missed was the events of ME3, but Ryder knows some of what happened with Alec's loga and the AI is trying to establish contact with the Milky Way as planned already. Which would end up being the sections we play as Shepard, which we can hope for a launcher system used in the LE where we can jump from Shepard story and keep doing crazy minigames and then use the Andromeda 2 to play as Ryder, something like ME2 that you can still play post all missions but the data only transfers up to a point to ME3.
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