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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 24, 2021 21:07:32 GMT
A few quick things:
1) No, I didn't write it but I do agree with it 100%.
2) If this really offends you then please go to the Escapist and yell at them and not at me because I will block you...FOR LIFE.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 24, 2021 22:08:41 GMT
Not a big fan of the article, but that isn't because of their outcome for that is their point of view and I am secure enough in what I like to accept what others feel. The problem is when reading the article I feel like they are jumping all over the place to what they are arguing and I found it hard to read.
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Post by dragontartare on Aug 24, 2021 22:25:37 GMT
I think it's strange to compare how a 4 year old game has "aged" compared to a 14 year old game. Of course a game from 2007 that introduced a brand new IP and new mechanics would have struggled a bit to find its footing, and of course you'd notice those things more 14 years later after trends in gaming have changed.
I'm not in any way "offended" by the article, I just don't think it's saying much of substance.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 24, 2021 22:29:17 GMT
I think it's strange to compare how a 4 year old game has "aged" compared to a 14 year old game. Of course a game from 2007 that introduced a brand new IP and new mechanics would have struggled a bit to find its footing, and of course you'd notice those things more 14 years later after trends in gaming have changed. I'm not in any way "offended" by the article, I just don't think it's saying much of substance. I agree the ten year difference is a big one, also going from being an indie developer to being part of a multi-billion dollar publisher would have other impacts and responsibilities as well. Now I do find some of the comments that people are making to "prove" why Andromeda is worse to be funny. Such as facial animations or dialogue since I find in both games they aren't the best. Then again comment sections like those you would think Jade Empire was a blockbuster of a game and not a game that nearly killed BioWare and Mass Effect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 22:34:12 GMT
A quick few things. 1. I'm offended that youd think I would be offended by this offence. 2. I'm actually surprised more people don't have me blocked, well actually not because most people like to complain that I joke around too much and cant take the time to hit the fucking block button. I think it's strange to compare how a 4 year old game has "aged" compared to a 14 year old game. Of course a game from 2007 that introduced a brand new IP and new mechanics would have struggled a bit to find its footing, and of course you'd notice those things more 14 years later after trends in gaming have changed. I'm not in any way "offended" by the article, I just don't think it's saying much of substance. This is a true statement. Comparing a 14 year old game to 4 year old game. And I would also like to add when plot is good, when what I am actually doing in the game matters, I can overlook some of the weak points of the game. The plot, the atmosphere, the characters, the setting is all A+. There is nothing in Mass Effect Andromeda that even comes close to that. When the "better" gameplay elements are in service of a garbage plot, garbage characters, garbage setting, then I don't really care if the gameplay is "better".
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Post by Warrick on Aug 24, 2021 23:23:24 GMT
Dialogue in ME1:
[Paragon] Sorry. - - Yes. [Investigate] - o - Maybe. [Renegade] Try it. - - No. Dialogue in Andromeda:
- yes 😐 o - yes 🤪 Regarding the "dated" dialogue I actually find it refreshing that a game has blunt lines as opposed to Andromeda's insipid writing. Those lines could never be written in this current, less free era. They're inappropriate in polite society. The posh wannabe "culture critics" plaguing online magazines now, those who pretend to enjoy reading The New Yorker and say words like "foucauldian", would never write a positive blog post feature about your game.
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Post by Sundance31us on Aug 24, 2021 23:49:05 GMT
1. I'm offended that youd think I would be offended by this offence. <can't stop giggling> I was reminded of this...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 24, 2021 23:58:49 GMT
- Why would I care what some nobody from the escapist thinks? - The only thing that could offend me, is people insulting their own intelligence, or my faith in them having intelligence to begin with.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 25, 2021 0:04:35 GMT
A few quick things:
1) No, I didn't write it but I do agree with it 100%.
2) If this really offends you then please go to the Escapist and yell at them and not at me because I will block you...FOR LIFE.
awww and I thought we were friends
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 25, 2021 3:44:07 GMT
What a waste of time just like the game it's trying to put in a more positive light.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 25, 2021 3:58:52 GMT
So ME1 has aged worse than a 4 year old game calling itself MEA? So what.
Lets see what ME1 has that the new age game called MEA doesn't have. The option to not recruit squadmates. Killing a squadmate. A quarian on the roster. the power wheel A main character that is interesting.
Yeah. I take the older game over the newer game. excellent.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 25, 2021 4:09:39 GMT
This is a strange thread all round, OP trying to get a certain reaction which backfired spectacularly, an article from a company I have never heard of, saying a 14 year old game has aged worse than a 4 year old game.
Dragon age origins has aged worse that Inquisition also, ME 1 and Origins are still far better games though
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Post by kasumi on Aug 25, 2021 6:34:34 GMT
Why are they even comparing a 14 year old game to MEA. Look I love MEA but the people making it messed up big time. From not shutting up on twitter, to Bioware giving it to a less experience part of the team, to them catoring to any kindof crowd instead of making the game better. Point is, MEA had issues and trying to slam an older much better product isn't going to make it better. You like me can love MEA, just don't go trying to say it's better because MA1 is old and had weak combat.
Like the animations and load times in MEA makes it even worst if you think about it. And we REALLY need to talk about not being able to use the beds and chairs. Like Bioware... please. Shepard and Ryder need to sleep and sit down in their rooms. PLEASE.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 25, 2021 7:10:01 GMT
The article's comments and the petulant reaction of the staff ("Sorry you can't handle opinions. Need a tissue?") are the best part of this.
It's kinda weird that the author feels the need to point out that ten years older game A didn't age as well as much newer game B. That's just the nature of the beast, especially when technology evolves as quickly as in the video game sector.
As far as the writing goes, that's all personal preference.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 25, 2021 7:20:02 GMT
Well MEA does almost everything better than ME1 (or for me, other ME's). At the moment I dont actually know what ME1 does better but I havent had my coffee yet...
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 25, 2021 11:22:23 GMT
Well MEA does almost everything better than ME1 (or for me, other ME's). At the moment I dont actually know what ME1 does better but I havent had my coffee yet...
What ME1 did wrong:
It's combat was dated in 2007.
The Mako sucks.
The morality system limits role play.
The dialogue is horrible.
The story is awful.
Saren sucks as a villain.
The uncharted planets are repetitive, boring and lifeless.
The side quests are just useless and annoying side quests (that pay off in a joke side quest in ME3 if Conrad lives).
The inventory system sucks.
The weapons and armor mods are useless pieces of crap with no real benefits.
The heating system sucks.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 25, 2021 11:32:17 GMT
With slight alterations you're describing the faults of Andromeda to most people's eyes frankly.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 25, 2021 12:13:18 GMT
Well MEA does almost everything better than ME1 (or for me, other ME's). At the moment I dont actually know what ME1 does better but I havent had my coffee yet... Go back to sleep and review this when you have a bit more sense
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 25, 2021 12:15:12 GMT
Well MEA does almost everything better than ME1 (or for me, other ME's). At the moment I dont actually know what ME1 does better but I havent had my coffee yet...
What ME1 did wrong:
It's combat was dated in 2007.
The Mako sucks.
The morality system limits role play.
The dialogue is horrible.
The story is awful.
Saren sucks as a villain.
The uncharted planets are repetitive, boring and lifeless.
The side quests are just useless and annoying side quests (that pay off in a joke side quest in ME3 if Conrad lives).
The inventory system sucks.
The weapons and armor mods are useless pieces of crap with no real benefits.
The heating system sucks.
Do you think Andromedas story, dialogue choices and side quests are any better? I'm pretty sure your just trolling for a reaction at this point...
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 25, 2021 12:17:00 GMT
What ME1 did wrong:
It's combat was dated in 2007.
The Mako sucks.
The morality system limits role play.
The dialogue is horrible.
The story is awful.
Saren sucks as a villain.
The uncharted planets are repetitive, boring and lifeless.
The side quests are just useless and annoying side quests (that pay off in a joke side quest in ME3 if Conrad lives).
The inventory system sucks.
The weapons and armor mods are useless pieces of crap with no real benefits.
The heating system sucks.
Do you think Andromedas story, dialogue choices and side quests are any better? I'm pretty sure your just trolling for a reaction at this point... Pretty much, yeah.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 25, 2021 12:29:00 GMT
Well MEA does almost everything better than ME1 (or for me, other ME's). At the moment I dont actually know what ME1 does better but I havent had my coffee yet... Go back to sleep and review this when you have a bit more sense Nah man, I already had coffee and maybe I'd give a point for the original world building, but thats it mostly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 13:33:04 GMT
A few quick things:
1) No, I didn't write it but I do agree with it 100%.
2) If this really offends you then please go to the Escapist and yell at them and not at me because I will block you...FOR LIFE.
Please block me for life. I am not mad at the article. I am just tired of your threats. Edit: why didn't you like your own post this time? Not feeling sure about yourself? I am, give yourself a like you deserve it.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 25, 2021 14:53:49 GMT
A few quick things:
1) No, I didn't write it but I do agree with it 100%.
2) If this really offends you then please go to the Escapist and yell at them and not at me because I will block you...FOR LIFE.
Please block me for life. I am not mad at the article. I am just tired of your threats. Edit: why didn't you like your own post this time? Not feeling sure about yourself? I am, give yourself a like you deserve it. For god sake man give him a second to log back into his alt!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 16:30:19 GMT
Yo saying MEA is better than ME1 is like saying ass is better than tits. Wrong just wrong.
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Post by ahglock on Aug 25, 2021 16:47:46 GMT
Talking about how a 4 year old game has aged is incredibly weird to me. Its still a pretty new game.OH and even if it "aged" better it started off in a worse place so its like saying yo I invested my $1 better 4 years ago than you invested your billion 10 years ago, I'd be like great you got $5 now, I still have 2 billion.
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