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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 6, 2021 19:59:28 GMT
we already two possessed mages Not quite the same thing as a spirit who is a mage in their own right but I take your point. Another spirit Spirit Warrior would be interesting. I always ended up recruiting Justice last because that seemed the right order to do the quests so he didn't really get enough screen time with me. Besides, I'd quite like a spirit who was more familiar with the world than Justice or Cole was. If they had been part of the Mourn Watch that would account for their greater interaction with the Waking World but limited to being around Mortalitasi and their associates, so there would still be something to learn of the world outside the Grand Necropolis.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 6, 2021 20:22:50 GMT
watch the gray sludge in the evka antoine story that they talk about encountering have been to do with the gross gray fluid in horror of hormak. wouldnt surprise me if they encountered an area nearby to one of the other 11 ghil labs I think the gray sludge is just normal darkspawn corruption.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 22, 2021 14:13:47 GMT
You say it's impossible for him to appear because he might not exist in some players world states. Correction i do not say this i said that he won´t play a major important role.
Of course Bioware can do an adult Kieran as Cameo but why should they do that? I don´t see the need why he should show up in Tevinter. Morrigan is also a quantum character because of her Origin romance so i doubt that we will hear much of her in Tevinter. But unlike Kieran she is always alive and well in every possible world state. Sorry that´s only from importance for (your) Cousland Warden and maybe Alistair or Loghain as father. But it doesn´t work for all of the other Origins. Again i have the feeling that you only see your world state.
Yes in your world state Kieran may be from importance but Bioware have to consider all of possible world state.
Also in the default one (not using the Keep) which around 50% of the DAI playerbase used Kieran doesn´t exist.
That maybe true i don't know the numbers. But what is the reason for the keep then?
Maybe i should make it like the 50%, than i could be happierer about it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 22, 2021 16:28:31 GMT
That maybe true i don't know the numbers. But what is the reason for the keep then? The main reason is the avoid the problems we had with carrying over our world states from DAO to DA2, when bugs or oversight led to strange behaviour from former companions like romanced Zevran, who was meant to be devoted to the Warden (or their memory) and yet was hitting on Hawke and/or Isabella. Also, it would be nigh on impossible to carry over flags from one system to another, which became important when they started using Frostbite. Hence the Keep. However, in terms of how important those choices are is debatable. How many were carried forward from DAO and DA2 that actually made a difference to your experience in DAI? Of these how many just resulted in a different codex, conversation with companions/NPCs or a short cameo appearance? Kieran was actually a notable exception to this but in view of the variables that they had to account for, it is unlikely they would ever do anything like that in the future and, so far as he was concerned, it was pretty clear his story was over so far as any major impact on the world going forward; he either does not exist or is now an ordinary boy, who may or may not be related to the monarch of Ferelden and even if he is, that is unlikely to be relevant to future stories. The Keep helps maintain the illusion of choice influencing the world but with the majority of those choices only really impacting the south of Thedas, whilst we are heading north, I do wonder whether the Keep will have any impact other than a few codices and conversations. The one that I am going to be interested to see is that final choice in Trespasser when speaking with Solas together with our choice about the Inquisition. However, considering the players on old consoles didn't even have the option of playing Trespasser, I doubt it is going to result in any major plot branches going forward. Also, I am rather skeptical about the Well of Sorrows decision coming up again but we shall see.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 24, 2021 16:29:09 GMT
So I'm all but certain that Evka will be a companion, with something unfortunate maybe to befall Antoine. I also think one of those necromancers will be a companion, I'm just not sure if they'll be undead or not. While I would love a romanceable dwarf companion, nothing about Evka strikes me as new or interesting. Admittedly, I'm a tad burnt out on Grey Wardens and want to see different factions and archetypes. For Evka to become a potential love interest, Antoine has to die, and there's another Carth Syndrome. Not to mention the whole slowly dying shtick is reminiscent of Thane. Yeah, there's nothing new under the sun, and maybe the character could surprise me. It's just that so far it doesn't seem to me they have made Evka different enough from say, Sigrun.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 24, 2021 18:21:27 GMT
While I would love a romanceable dwarf companion, nothing about Evka strikes me as new or interesting. Admittedly, I'm a tad burnt out on Grey Wardens and want to see different factions and archetypes. I would rather meet up with and work with Evka and Antoine rather than have her as a companion who has been widowed and then attempt to romance her. I agree that we are likely to see her again considering the amount of focus there has been on her but in a way that makes her less interesting to me. I already know why she became a Warden, the sort of challenges she has encountered up to now and that she is (or was) married so what more is there to discover? Besides, what about those two characters that were showcased in the "Behind the Scenes" video? They even had VAs already assigned to them. One was definitely a Grey Warden and the other sounded as though she could be a dwarf, owing to knowing something about the "right kind of rumbles". The only thing I can think of, if they are or were all in the game in some way, is that possibly one pair or the other could have been multi-player characters and will now have been lost with the single player focus. Sadly, that may be Davrin and the other one from the video.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 24, 2021 21:49:43 GMT
It occurs to me it is probably a bit of a stretch to assume they are companions given what BioWare has done with book characters in the first place. Yes, might've been cool to get Michel de Chevin or Briala (despite not liking her) as companions but they ended up being quest givers and cameos. Hell Rhys and Evangeline only made appareances via the war table and hell Adrianne just dropped off the face of Thedas.
Which I guess is the same reason I am just generally assuming we won't see Fenris in DA 4 because, despite not reading those comics, I do get the sense from the summaries and vids I have watched on them that his story is relatively wrapped up.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 25, 2021 4:57:37 GMT
One difference with Evka and Antoine compared to Michel: they’ve had two short stories dedicated to them over the past two years. That’s an unusual amount of attention to devote to two NPCs if they are just window dressing.
I suspect if they are companions, they’re a package deal. We’ve never had married party members.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 25, 2021 5:20:24 GMT
One difference with Evka and Antoine compared to Michel: they’ve had two short stories dedicated to them over the past two years. That’s an unusual amount of attention to devote to two NPCs if they are just window dressing. I suspect if they are companions, they’re a package deal. We’ve never had married party members. Michel (and others) got a whole book.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 25, 2021 7:59:25 GMT
We’ve never had married party members. Not in Dragon Age certainly but we did have a married couple as companions back in Baldurs' Gate, then they killed off one of them in BG2 and we were able to romance the survivor. It was surprising how quickly she got over the mourning him to be honest. I seem to recall that in BG1 you couldn't keep one in the party without the other, which was annoying enough when you have 5 party members, as we did then, let alone 3. So, whilst having a married couple might be an interesting innovation for DA, I hope it wouldn't come with those sorts of restrictions. More likely, though, I think would be for them to appear as temporary companions who don't actually take up party slots, like Morrigan or those two dwarves in the Descent.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Dec 25, 2021 16:45:39 GMT
...unless they wanted to shake up the romance formula, and allow you to become a third partner to the existing couple, but only if the player spends equal time with both characters. Though I admit I might be among a very small group of fans who would actually care for that.
I definitely agree with your prediction of those characters filling temporary party slots. It can be interesting to have important story npcs interact with the player in more depth by accompanying the party for brief periods.
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