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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 7, 2021 10:56:33 GMT
No it doesn't. What, the Inquisitor is not going to care as much that the world and everyone in it is going to die because it's been a few years? I didn't mean they wouldn't care but it could explain why they are, for example, based in Kirkwall and co-ordinating the search from there, rather than actually out in the field themselves. Running around like a headless chicken when you know you have got a bit of breathing space would be rather counter-productive. They can't follow up every potential lead personally, so better to study the information as it comes in and then make a plan from there. Of course, once they identify exactly where Solas is based then they should be actively involved in confronting him. From a game play perspective, I can see why they opted for this route. Whenever we have been tasked with saving the world, I never really could understand why you might get distracted from that aim unless what you were doing was directly helping and until you know it is relevant you would be more likely to leave it in the hands of someone else. Very often sub-quests don't directly tie into the main plot, so why would you allow yourself to be distracted by them, particularly when you had an organisation like the Inquisition to provide the personnel to deal with anything that you felt was not obviously relevant to your efforts? With the threat from Solas, I couldn't see any reason why the Inquisitor would want to get involved with anything other than the hunt for him. So it would make sense to leave following up what seem only tenuous leads to someone else. Effectively they are sitting at a War Table and directing things, trying to form a picture of where Solas might be, whilst other people do the leg work. So the question is whether the new hero starts off as one of those agents out in the field, dealing with matters as directed by the Inquisitor, or whether they start out as totally separate but then at some point their paths cross and they start to combine their efforts.
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Post by Solas on Dec 7, 2021 11:14:21 GMT
8 years? I was under the impression that Solas tearing down the Veil was kind of an imminent threat. I have checked and it wasn't in Trespasser but in the Dread Wolf Take You. When Charter says "Did you expect us not to try and stop you?", he replies: "It was a moment of weakness. I told myself that it was because you all deserved to know, to live a few years in peace before my ritual was complete." Now it could be that PW included this because the writers had realised that Trespasser did make the threat sound more imminent than they intended because they were planning to skip forward in time for the next game. Still Solas has explained there why the world is still going in its present state in 9:52; his ritual is clearly not yet complete. the reference to years plural and the ritual is in TN, but he does also specify a few years plural in Trespasser too in effect we've known about a likely timeskip of several years since 2015. the most recent comics also already took us up til 9:45. another interesting line in TN: ''A year later, nations would stand, and tremble'' in Genetivi Dies In The End
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Post by samurailink on Dec 7, 2021 17:17:31 GMT
Solas is going to feel really silly when he realises he could have saved 4 years had he simply learned to cast Haste first.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 7, 2021 17:30:48 GMT
Another effect of the time skip is that it's likely going to reinforce the major plot point from the trailer. Because we may understand Elven magic, but how many people in Thedas does?
In 9:45 some people may have taken the Inquisitor's warning seriously. In 9:52 most people would laugh in her face. Especially with the Qunari breathing down everyone's neck.
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Post by ThatDamnableRogue on Dec 8, 2021 1:46:39 GMT
That's a good point! Maybe one of the big challenges the DA4 protagonist will have to overcome is convincing a skeptical public to take the threat seriously. Maybe the protag and their allies come to be seen as a doomsday cult. Maybe there are vocal end-of-the-world deniers who need to swayed or silenced. Maybe Solas' agents (since they are mostly elves and more likely to go unnoticed) will be working behind the scenes to sew seeds of doubt and discredit the protag and their allies. Idk. It would be a really interesting plot point, though. I was going to expand upon my comment on the first page (re: "I have several thoughts but I’m not sure how to accurately put them down in words, so I’ll make a more coherent post later") but I honestly forgot what I was going to say. Something about the Grey Wardens. What happens to them during this timeskip? I hope we learn more about the internal schism in the Order in DA4. It could have something to do with Avernus' research, or the Architect, or the cure for the Calling... I am curious to find out how the HoF's quest resolves. Sorry, my thoughts are scattered. Point is, something big is going down in the Wardens, and I hope it's relevant to the plot. Oh, and I'd love to see a return of griffons. Even if the mount system in Inquisition was terrible and useless. Because griffons. Those baby griffs Isseya found should be full-grown by 9:52.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Dec 8, 2021 5:34:02 GMT
Another effect of the time skip is that it's likely going to reinforce the major plot point from the trailer. Because we may understand Elven magic, but how many people in Thedas does? In 9:45 some people may have taken the Inquisitor's warning seriously. In 9:52 most people would laugh in her face. Especially with the Qunari breathing down everyone's neck. I hope this is the case
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 8, 2021 9:42:48 GMT
That's a good point! Maybe one of the big challenges the DA4 protagonist will have to overcome is convincing a skeptical public to take the threat seriously. If I recall correctly, that promo video in Summer 2020 said something about you being the one to take action when those in power are ignoring the threat. (I can't quote exactly as currently my PC doesn't play back sound from the Internet and the reader doesn't always translate words correctly). Anyway, it is possible to think of several examples where this might be relevant: Grey Warden plot - the leadership are refusing to take the warning about the Horror of Hormack seriously. They are too busy embroiled in internal politics. Tevinter - there is still too much corruption and political power play in the Magisterium to properly deal with the Qunari threat. Meanwhile the ordinary Soporati and Laetans out in the wider Imperium are struggling to survive. The Qun - the Antaam are too busy focused on conquest, whilst the Ben'Hassrath are insisting the Solas is still the real threat. Grand Necropolis - the Mortalitasi are too embroiled in internal politics to examine and deal with a disturbing development in the spirit world. Solas plot - most human leaders refuse to take the threat seriously, think the Inquisitor made up a lot of it just to maintain power and that even if Solas did threaten to destroy the world, was just an apostate elf with delusions of grandeur who had adopted the name from Dalish mythology to frighten people. Most witnesses who could verify the story are now dead or petrified (which pretty much amounts to the same thing), apart from the inner Circle from the former Inquisition, who most people will think are biased. The Qun could also confirm the threat but who is going to trust them? I would also mention that I think Solas wants Tevinter and the Qun to be at each other's throats because that will allow him/his agents to be missed among the chaos. I'm pretty sure that the agent in Tevinter Nights who was trying to escalate the conflict to bring in Par Vollen, and make any sort of truce with Tevinter impossible, was doing so with his approval. Also, they targeted the Qun's mobile Darvaarad, their base for studying magical energies and artifacts and how to deal with them. Gatt said they had moved it to a ship in order to keep it on the move and maintain secrecy about its location but this clearly hadn't worked where Solas was concerned. It is also said in another story that the Ben'Hassrath know more about Solas' movements than anyone else. Of course, the Qun's agents are frequently elves so might well be in a position to acquire more information, possibly as double agents. However, what I took from those stories is that not only are the Ben'Hassrath focusing their energies on finding and neutralising Solas but that he does regard them as a threat.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2021 10:19:14 GMT
Oh joy, yet another BioWare game where nobody in charge believes the protagonists or takes the threat seriously. Just what we needed. But this time possibly with the added spice of character assassination, having characters who know the truth now be completely apathetic about it. Woo.
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Post by ThatDamnableRogue on Dec 8, 2021 17:20:09 GMT
That's a good point! Maybe one of the big challenges the DA4 protagonist will have to overcome is convincing a skeptical public to take the threat seriously. Grey Warden plot - the leadership are refusing to take the warning about the Horror of Hormack seriously. They are too busy embroiled in internal politics. I’m certain the Grey Warden plot has something to do with their leadership being too entrenched in politics. I don’t remember ever seeing anything about a “Horror of Hormack,” but it’s possible I missed something. Where is this mentioned?
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Dec 8, 2021 18:07:29 GMT
I’m certain the Grey Warden plot has something to do with their leadership being too entrenched in politics. I don’t remember ever seeing anything about a “Horror of Hormack,” but it’s possible I missed something. Where is this mentioned? Lol ohhhh boy. Read Tevinter Nights. It's the third chapter, a short story written by John Epler. It changes everything for the Wardens.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 8, 2021 18:27:04 GMT
’m certain the Grey Warden plot has something to do with their leadership being too entrenched in politics. I don’t remember ever seeing anything about a “Horror of Hormack,” but it’s possible I missed something. Where is this mentioned? As previous poster says, it was in the volume of short stories called Tevinter Nights that was released in Spring 2020. The Horror of Hormack was particularly thought provoking and could point to a number of plot threads in the next game, not just concerning the Wardens. However, it is a Warden who makes the discovery and was going to report back to HQ. You would think that would be something the leadership would make top priority but the First Warden is said in World of Thedas to be deeply embroiled in Anderfels politics and we know from the epilogue to DAI that there would seem to be problems at HQ resulting from the southern Wardens reporting back after Corypheus, so there does seem to be a lot of problems the First Warden has to deal with. However, the time skip to 9:52 may minimise the amount of attention they give to that plot resolution hanging over from DAI. The slide ended with: What becomes of Hawke/Loghain/Stroud/Alistair is unknown – save that all news out of Weisshaupt soon ends. Does the sudden silence indicate a battle within... or something far worse?Now, of course, they hand waved away the sinister implications if Hawke was the one living and you ask Varric about it. He just makes some jokey comment about Hawke leaving the place amid explosions or something and then in the epilogue to Trespasser Hawke is back in Kirkwall, with nothing more said on the subject of the Wardens. The "something far worse" could easily be shown to be some sort of problem related to what was found in Tevinter Nights, or something else entirely but I'm hoping it will be addressed properly next game. Whatever the case, it seems pretty certain we will finally be visiting the famous Grey Warden fortress, judging by the concept art that has been released and the number of short stories featuring Wardens, Evka in particular.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 8, 2021 20:57:41 GMT
Oh joy, yet another BioWare game where nobody in charge believes the protagonists or takes the threat seriously. Just what we needed. But this time possibly with the added spice of character assassination, having characters who know the truth now be completely apathetic about it. Woo. You could say the same of every other epic thriller, or real life.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 8, 2021 21:11:06 GMT
It changes everything for the Wardens. I wouldn't go that far. The threat posed in Horror of Hormak is considerable, but not in a "NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME" kind of way. (Also, the threat was kind of hilarious, unless you were one of the people who was terrified by Spliced.)
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Dec 8, 2021 23:52:37 GMT
I wouldn't go that far. The threat posed in Horror of Hormak is considerable, but not in a "NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME" kind of way. For the sake of ThatDamnableRogue who is in this thread and haven't read Tevinter Nights, spoilers for HoH below: This story is yet another example of The Wardens not fully understanding what they're doing and the magic they have messed with. I think what was discovered in that thaig will lead us to the truth behind blight magic, and what it means to hold the blight inside of your body. So, the pools discovered aren't necessarily a threat to The Wardens as a whole, but more so will be a threat to their morale and understanding of what it truly means to be a Warden and how to stop the blight. I don't believe they will operate the same way. Take a look at the double dragon concept art. It looks like the archdemons are being defended and protected. In other words, I think the Wardens will begin to have the same understanding of the role they put themselves in the same way that Solas understands. Except they will have much, much more hope and belief in themselves and their order than Solas does for them.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2021 0:48:26 GMT
I really wouldn't assume that HoH has much to do with the Grey Wardens plot wise. In so much that we will go to the Anderfels and that will be the Warden plot, though a Warden might be involved in some of these monsters.
No I think HoH was an establishment of some of the 'world bosses' and monstrous threats we will be fighting in DA 4. Not what the Wardens themselves will be dealing with per se.
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Post by ThatDamnableRogue on Dec 9, 2021 1:21:24 GMT
I’m certain the Grey Warden plot has something to do with their leadership being too entrenched in politics. I don’t remember ever seeing anything about a “Horror of Hormack,” but it’s possible I missed something. Where is this mentioned? Lol ohhhh boy. Read Tevinter Nights. It's the third chapter, a short story written by John Epler. It changes everything for the Wardens. Gotcha. Sorry. I’ll just bow out of this thread for now so you guys don’t have to hide everything in spoilers
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Dec 9, 2021 1:22:58 GMT
I really wouldn't assume that HoH has much to do with the Grey Wardens plot wise. In so much that we will go to the Anderfels and that will be the Warden plot, though a Warden might be involved in some of these monsters.
No I think HoH was an establishment of some of the 'world bosses' and monstrous threats we will be fighting in DA 4. Not what the Wardens themselves will be dealing with per se. Ehhh, I mean of course it establishes the "world bosses" that our protag will no doubt fight against, but The Blight/taint is the common factor here that makes me believe The Wardens will be at the center of this plot. I can't see why these grey pools that can produce numerous amounts of blighted monstrosities not be a focus for The Wardens, unless that is apart of the plotline with the internal politics. I"m sure Ramesh would want to see it through after seeing his lover like that. There's a story there that goes beyond just establishing a game mechanic. Gotcha. Sorry. I’ll just bow out of this thread for now so you guys don’t have to hide everything in spoilers Please don't do that! We're off topic anyway. But definitely read Tevinter Nights!
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2021 1:34:38 GMT
I really wouldn't assume that HoH has much to do with the Grey Wardens plot wise. In so much that we will go to the Anderfels and that will be the Warden plot, though a Warden might be involved in some of these monsters.
No I think HoH was an establishment of some of the 'world bosses' and monstrous threats we will be fighting in DA 4. Not what the Wardens themselves will be dealing with per se. Ehhh, I mean of course it establishes the "world bosses" that our protag will no doubt fight against, but The Blight/taint is the common factor here that makes me believe The Wardens will be at the center of this plot. I can't see why these grey pools that can produce numerous amounts of blighted monstrosities not be a focus for The Wardens, unless that is apart of the plotline with the internal politics. I"m sure Ramesh would want to see it through after seeing his lover like that. There's a story there that goes beyond just establishing a game mechanic. Gotcha. Sorry. I’ll just bow out of this thread for now so you guys don’t have to hide everything in spoilers Please don't do that! We're off topic anyway. But definitely read Tevinter Nights! I've been doing this a lot recently, figuring out how to word something after an initial point. I agree. But I think the difference here is that the main line plot in the Anderfels will be different and that will be the main Warden plot. One of Ghil Dirthalen's (spelling I know I know) labs might be in the Anderfels but there are, apparently, what seven more left? These things will likely be stretched all across the Continent and Wardens/ Remarsh likely will be involved in their containment...heh been watching too much SCP stuff, but the plot line of the Anderfels likely will focus on different aspects of what the Wardens are up to.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 9, 2021 4:15:46 GMT
Oh joy, yet another BioWare game where nobody in charge believes the protagonists or takes the threat seriously. Just what we needed. But this time possibly with the added spice of character assassination, having characters who know the truth now be completely apathetic about it. Woo. You could say the same of every other epic thriller, or real life. Heh, I’m now picturing the IRL equivalent: a retired military general suddenly starts babbling about some ancient god (from a religion they don’t even belong to, in many worldstates) who is definitely, for real going to destroy the world any day now, I swear you guys. Especially considering that all the recent world-ending threats got mopped up incredibly fast, with only small pockets of Thedas bearing the brunt of the damage.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2021 4:42:57 GMT
You could say the same of every other epic thriller, or real life. Heh, I’m now picturing the IRL equivalent: a retired military general suddenly starts babbling about some ancient god (from a religion they don’t even belong to, in many worldstates) who is definitely, for real going to destroy the world any day now, I swear you guys. Especially considering that all the recent world-ending threats got mopped up incredibly fast, with only small pockets of Thedas bearing the brunt of the damage. You raise a rather fantastic point. Both the Breach and Blight was wrapped up in well less then a year and was relatively contained to *just* Ferelden. Obviously we saw what the future would look like because of Time Travel the rest of Thedas certainy didn't see it so despite the end of the world level of the plots of both DAO and DAI must nations just did not feel it. But a war in the North with the Qunari? Titans? Spread of Red Lyrium? And then the Dread Wolf we have a potential for quite a domino effect of apoclypses all happening at once which could pressure on Thedas which really has not been seen before. Which the time skip could only help with this.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 9, 2021 8:46:59 GMT
Heh, I’m now picturing the IRL equivalent: a retired military general suddenly starts babbling about some ancient god (from a religion they don’t even belong to, in many worldstates) who is definitely, for real going to destroy the world any day now, I swear you guys. This is why I thought it might be argued that most people outside of the Inner Circle might be rather skeptical of the story. Of course, it isn't anything new as a plot device. In DAO people were questioning if it was a real Blight, except those in the south who were actually overrun with darkspawn, which is why Loghain got the support he did in opposition to the Wardens; in DA2 (MoA) Hawke discovers the Qun have a network of spies across southern Thedas but people refuse to believe them (which is odd if the events at the end of Act 2 have already happened and they have seen waves of local elves attacking with the Arishok); in DAI the initial doubts come over the legitimacy of the title Herald of Andraste (which turn out to be valid objections although the Inquisition suppress the truth). Then at the end of Trespasser the slide specifically says concerning the elves disappearing across southern Thedas that " those who believed the Inquisitor's story about Fen'Harel wondered just how large the Dread Wolf's forces were... and what the ancient elven rebel had planned." Two points here, it definitely suggests that some people who were warned about Solas didn't believe the story and even those that did seemed to be speculating what the ancient elven rebel had planned. Note that they do not view him as an elven god but just an ancient elf who was once a rebel in his own time and surely they know what he has planned, he is going to destroy the fabric of reality. Clearly that last part is too much for people to swallow. They prefer to believe that he is gathering elven forces for perhaps some sort of rebellion, which they feel they can deal with, rather than a ritual of world changing magic as the Inquisitor has told them. Obviously we saw what the future would look like because of Time Travel the rest of Thedas certainy didn't see it so despite the end of the world level of the plots of both DAO and DAI must nations just did not feel it. Exactly. We know that the orb Corypheus used belonged once to Solas and what it was capable of, even without the trip to the future. We were prepared to believe that the old Dalish stories were true and the elves once did have universal magic that was stripped from them at some point, for which Solas claimed responsibility. We saw the various proofs of his claim throughout the eluvian network. Other people didn't. Why wouldn't they suggest that it was the ravings of a deluded apostate elf and the desperate attempt of the Inquisitor to justify leaving their organisation alone. You will recall that as we approach the Exalted Council at the end, Teagan can be heard talking and he does seem more concerned about Solas escalating tensions with the Qunari rather than the threat posed by him directly. It would also seem that they didn't even take seriously the fact that Solas had saved them from invasion by the Qunari through his interference. It is noticeable in Tevinter Nights that the people who are willing to co-operate with the shadow Inquisition are more from the fringes of society. There was a member of the Carta, a underworld criminal organisation; a member of the Mortalitasi who had been engaged in illicit magical activity in collaboration with an individual from Tevinter that technically would have broken the Llomerryn Accord had it succeeded (so likely not with official approval) and an individual representing the Executors, a shadowy cult of dubious origins. There was not one representative from the legitimate leadership across Thedas (bearing in mind that the Inquisition itself should have been disbanded in some world states). There wasn't even a representative of the Crows, the acknowledged power behind the throne and protectors of Antiva. Not exactly a united front in attempting to trace and deal with the threat Solas presents.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2021 10:56:40 GMT
Heh, I’m now picturing the IRL equivalent: a retired military general suddenly starts babbling about some ancient god (from a religion they don’t even belong to, in many worldstates) who is definitely, for real going to destroy the world any day now, I swear you guys. This is why I thought it might be argued that most people outside of the Inner Circle might be rather skeptical of the story. Of course, it isn't anything new as a plot device. In DAO people were questioning if it was a real Blight, except those in the south who were actually overrun with darkspawn, which is why Loghain got the support he did in opposition to the Wardens; in DA2 (MoA) Hawke discovers the Qun have a network of spies across southern Thedas but people refuse to believe them (which is odd if the events at the end of Act 2 have already happened and they have seen waves of local elves attacking with the Arishok); in DAI the initial doubts come over the legitimacy of the title Herald of Andraste (which turn out to be valid objections although the Inquisition suppress the truth). Then at the end of Trespasser the slide specifically says concerning the elves disappearing across southern Thedas that " those who believed the Inquisitor's story about Fen'Harel wondered just how large the Dread Wolf's forces were... and what the ancient elven rebel had planned." Two points here, it definitely suggests that some people who were warned about Solas didn't believe the story and even those that did seemed to be speculating what the ancient elven rebel had planned. Note that they do not view him as an elven god but just an ancient elf who was once a rebel in his own time and surely they know what he has planned, he is going to destroy the fabric of reality. Clearly that last part is too much for people to swallow. They prefer to believe that he is gathering elven forces for perhaps some sort of rebellion, which they feel they can deal with, rather than a ritual of world changing magic as the Inquisitor has told them. Obviously we saw what the future would look like because of Time Travel the rest of Thedas certainy didn't see it so despite the end of the world level of the plots of both DAO and DAI must nations just did not feel it. Exactly. We know that the orb Corypheus used belonged once to Solas and what it was capable of, even without the trip to the future. We were prepared to believe that the old Dalish stories were true and the elves once did have universal magic that was stripped from them at some point, for which Solas claimed responsibility. We saw the various proofs of his claim throughout the eluvian network. Other people didn't. Why wouldn't they suggest that it was the ravings of a deluded apostate elf and the desperate attempt of the Inquisitor to justify leaving their organisation alone. You will recall that as we approach the Exalted Council at the end, Teagan can be heard talking and he does seem more concerned about Solas escalating tensions with the Qunari rather than the threat posed by him directly. It would also seem that they didn't even take seriously the fact that Solas had saved them from invasion by the Qunari through his interference. It is noticeable in Tevinter Nights that the people who are willing to co-operate with the shadow Inquisition are more from the fringes of society. There was a member of the Carta, a underworld criminal organisation; a member of the Mortalitasi who had been engaged in illicit magical activity in collaboration with an individual from Tevinter that technically would have broken the Llomerryn Accord had it succeeded (so likely not with official approval) and an individual representing the Executors, a shadowy cult of dubious origins. There was not one representative from the legitimate leadership across Thedas (bearing in mind that the Inquisition itself should have been disbanded in some world states). There wasn't even a representative of the Crows, the acknowledged power behind the throne and protectors of Antiva. Not exactly a united front in attempting to trace and deal with the threat Solas presents. It does make one wonder if there is any significance to the organizations that weren't there but yet also would serve in that grey under belly of society. I mean some of these might be obvious but the Tevinter Sicari, Antivan Crows, Lords of Fortune, and Ben Hassrath are a bit conspicuous by their absence.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 9, 2021 14:46:52 GMT
I mean some of these might be obvious but the Tevinter Sicari, Antivan Crows, Lords of Fortune, and Ben Hassrath are a bit conspicuous by their absence. Charter said that the Tevinter Sicarri were invited but declined to answer the request. So that could be because they don't trust the Inquisition (who could have been working with their enemies at one point), don't take the threat of Solas seriously or simply are too wrapped up in dealing with the Antaam overrunning their country. Apparently the Ben'Hassrath also didn't answer. Now since she admits they know more about Solas' movements than anyone else, that could be because they knew he would infiltrate the meeting. They certainly may not have wished to share information with anyone else, knowing how Solas is watching people and not trusting others to keep it secret. However, they do seem to be co-operating with the Inquisition to some extent because Gatt seemed to know that Varric was co-ordinating the response to Solas' threat. So it is possible that Charter was lying and never invited them because they were already sharing information and she knew the Qun didn't want it to go any further. It is noticeable that the Executors were particularly curious about the lack of involvement by the Qunari and questioned if they were afraid to "speak with us." I wonder if by "us" they meant the gathered party or just the Executors? Does that mean the Executors know there is a reason the Qunari might fear them? The Lords of Fortune are just a loose knit guild of Fortune Hunters so no real reason to involve them unless the Inquisition wanted to recover a particular item (as happened in one of the stories) but I still think it odd the Crows weren't invited and that no one else remarked on their absence. Perhaps the meeting was simply for those who had experience of direct contact with the Dread Wolf, although that would be telling with regard to the Executors. Why were they invited to the meeting. Did they approach Charter or the other way around?
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Post by garrusfan1 on Dec 9, 2021 15:10:10 GMT
Oh joy, yet another BioWare game where nobody in charge believes the protagonists or takes the threat seriously. Just what we needed. But this time possibly with the added spice of character assassination, having characters who know the truth now be completely apathetic about it. Woo. You could say the same of every other epic thriller, or real life. Pretty much. It's the plot of most action movies,books, and several political issues. It's not only bioware who uses that formula. Besides if the inquisitor has been talking about this for years and nothing happened then it would be very easy to grow numb to the warning even if you believed it since there are a thousand other things leaders have to deal with.
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Post by Croatsky on Dec 9, 2021 20:40:39 GMT
I'm hoping this is an indication BioWare will have (finally) learned how to do pacing and scale properly. The setting, like admittedly most things, don't use time well. The first couple of Blights took 100s of years yet Thedas is still (relatively) in tact, but a Blight which lasted only a year in Ferelden left perement scars...its never made a lot of sense...a Blight that lasted for a century plus given what we have seen IMO should have left Thedas unihabittable. And then the other big issues are it took only a year for DAOs plot, only two days with a 'forced march' to travel from Redcliffe to Denerim, and DAIs plot was only over a year as well as it turned out. I'm really hoping this is an indication that they will learn from Assassins Creed Odyssey in this regard a game which had their plot cover most of the back half of the Polypenisian war, about eight years I think I have been told. Likewise I am hoping that DA 4s plot indicates that it takes place over years as well, maybe not as long, but if we are going to be seeing siege warfare and us continent hopping all over Northern Thedas we will need to have a plot which will reflect that properly (Of course this is also assuming I have any clue about Thedas geography so its possible the continent is just really tiny ) With all this in mind I don't know how much things will actually change. I just hope this means the plots they want to include will have a chance to marinate for awhile and be set up within the world. That Tevinter's situation will be darker and similar stuff will be developping for the other potential nations. The biggest change however will mean our heroes that we are used to, given the fact they were already old many of them in Inquisition, will be even older and more out of the fight. Cassandra, Cullen, the Inquisitor Dorian, and Leiliana are all going to be getting up there in age and with I think Cass and Cullen being in their fifties especially they might be retired...or well...dead. Doesn't Awakening expansion imply heavily that the Fifth Blight was started prematurely? In fact the Fourth Blight was so devastating to Darkspawn number, people of Thedas believed it was the last blight. So when the Architect awakened the Archdeamon after the failed Joining Ritual, the Darkspawn were still too few in number to overtake Thedas, hell Fereldan in middle of civil war was able to stop them.
As well who's to know was there any involvement from Flementh and/or Fen'Harel agents to cause premature blight. We still don't know much about the Architect either, plot point that BioWare either dropped or is saving it for future content.
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