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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 21:19:43 GMT
Okay, just finished the quick 6 episodes of Absolution... Okay - so... Meredith lives! Kinda. She's basically a talking lump of red lyrium, which makes me wonder how this fits into Tevinter Nights. I'm guessing Absolution happens before TN? Or could this have happened because the lyrium idol was removed from her? Also, she seems to be commanding red templars and somehow operates in Kirkwall. In secret? Yeah, I've got questions... Also, a few decent story twists in this one. Fairbanks is dead, presumed to be a traitor, but turns out he was one of the good guys. Hira winding up being the conflicted antagonist. Gameplay-wise, I wonder if the spells we see in Absolution are just for the show or will we see similar spells in DA:D? A disc you can fly on would be handy... I think they're keeping to a timeline with the media- I don't think they're doing more than overlapping slightly. (Edit, I'm kind confused about the timeline) And considering Varric is on the move in the upcoming comic series, I imagine Meredith finally winning control over Kirkwall with a red lyrium...ghost fist is what drove him out. Fenris is better though. Count me as remaining a forever fan of Fenris, but not loving Miriam. I always have to question whether I'm biased. Do I dislike Miriam because she's female, and I'm not attracted to her? Is it because I would let a guy be an asshole but not a woman? I've wondered these sorts of questions as I've forced myself to watch Avatar Korra. Gawd, she is such a stupid child, but so was Aang. But he was a 12 year old stupid child and Korra is like 16, is what I tell myself, that is why I can dislike Korra freely. Maybe. MAJOR) gripe is the animation. This was still better than the comics, but I was a little thrown about the introduction scene in the first episode where it was clearly CGI and then they switched over to regular. But I hate the elven ears sticking straight the fuck out too, come on. It makes the bat faced insult actually make sense. I still would respect the show more if Hira wasn´t new. Yeah there are plenty of unnamed Inquisition members but also a ton who also weren´t that fleshed out like Fairbanks She was interesting in that she actually never joined the Inquisition? She showed up with the rallying cry of lets destroy Tevinter and Leliana was like...ya, no. I get what you're saying, but it's not happening. But also, what was Hira even carrying during that scene, some sort of glowing jewlery
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She was interesting in that she actually never joined the Inquisition? She showed up with the rallying cry of lets destroy Tevinter and Leliana was like...ya, no. I get what you're saying, but it's not happening. But also, what was Hira even carrying during that scene, some sort of glowing jewlery Well she did join the Inquisition atleast formal speaking otherwise why would she accompany Fairbanks? But i must admit it doesn´t bother that much any longer because of the shown flashback. So no Hira was not the best friend of the Inquisitor. I also doubt that she really had friends there.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 21:42:53 GMT
Resurrection of dead characters... Oh please for god of good storytelling don´t do this Lyrium brought back Leliana. Gotta say, I didn't expect them to do it again, but it's establish lore and they'll do what they want with it. If it makes you feel better Leliana's ressurection being in a holy mountain full of lyrium, and this one required a more painful initial transformation. I don't think they're going to start using it for everyone. And weren't there red lyrium zombies? so even in the media so far... pseudo resurrection is spontaneously happening in the wild in red lyrium locations. I do wonder at the sudden interest she has in crushing Tevinter though (beyond just "Mages Bad"). Me too. It could be just be like, Justice was twisted into being willing to murder just to free mages. Her living desires could have been twisted in this new transformation. Who is to say this is truly Meredith?ira had a sort of deal with the one who had the circulum, was then very invested in trying to steal it back, and the crux of her secret (selling miriam back) was quite Celene and Briala-esque, a complete abuse of power and trust by a powerful human and their elven lover who is of much lower standing and being treated like an item I think it's good in a way. It takes a lot to break the culture that you were raised in. Hira sobbing about her family being destroyed for being do gooders to slaves- and she still was willing to sell Miriam back. So their whole "be nice to slaves" was a do gooder notion that didn't have enough true belief behind it. Dorian probably would have kept thinking slaves were okay and never really considered the ramifications of freedom until his own father tried to use blood magic to take his freedom away. That was traumatizing enough to make him change irrevocably and never make those choices. But every Tevinter mage was raised this way. Dorian is always going to be the exception . in view of that I'd rather they had left him running the Dales, poor chap. Fairbanks is a lot cooler to me now. I only regret that his body went into a barrel and will be thrown into a mass grave later. did anyone else pick up on the fact that the Circulum used to belong to the Pavus family? yes, immediately. No Magister bloodline is clean. There was stuff to chew over, which if it is going to be in the game, could account for why we haven't heard more from Bioware recently as they thought the series could do the talking. Honestly, I agree. That series did a lot to satisfy me in a way that TN, other short stories, and the stupid trailers have not. he Venatori were created years ago...so Cory just usurped them? OMG! Thanks for noticing this, that's a cool idea. I just found it amusing that Tassia thought the Divine wouldn't approve of blood magic considering what we learned in Asunder. She is drinking the Kool Aid on the Official Story for sure. Besides, that guy was put down, which is just what fits that narrative. We assumed it referred to DA2, but now...? Ooo, I'd forgotten about that mural altogether. It now has a futuristic feeling for sure. Although it didn't look like she could walk anywhere at that moment.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 21:59:10 GMT
Qwydion is so goofy and lovable, I seriously wonder if she's Ben-Hassrath. I don't. You can't fake a cutesy nature like that- she was kind to the elven slaves even with no witnesses. They're just laying groundwork that it's not only Inky who can be a Vashoth mage. I question the legitimacy of the mission. In the end, I feel like this was justified. I wonder what the Inquisition even knew about it. Just that Meredith wanted it? One thing the first episode already shows is that not every elf lives poorly in Tevinter. Well, that's the double edged sword we want to see regarding the matter in Tevinter. I think it was very well shown with both Hira's BG story ANd Rez. "I will take care of you, well, but do everything I say and be grateful. Otherwise..." -I appreciate that they acknowledged that the Dragon is going to ravage the countryside because that was my only thought. t's kinda bothersome that the elf is getting all the shit but not the Qunari. I noticed that and was very confused about that. Isn't a war raging right now that Tevinter is losing? who's cool with the Rando horn lady? Maybe because she was a mage so they knew she couldn't be Qun? . He was just hiding it to keep Tassia around since she is clearly against it. For sure, he was into blood magic all along. As bad as his mother for sure. Tassia would make a great Tevinter companion. Yay! I'm not the only one who saw her as good companion material.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 10, 2022 22:03:12 GMT
Lyrium brought back Leliana. Gotta say, I didn't expect them to do it again, but it's establish lore and they'll do what they want with it. If it makes you feel better Leliana's ressurection being in a holy mountain full of lyrium, and this one required a more painful initial transformation. I don't think they're going to start using it for everyone. And weren't there red lyrium zombies? so even in the media so far... pseudo resurrection is spontaneously happening in the wild in red lyrium locations.
Leliana had an optional death in DAO. Only a few players had killed Leliana but they (and others) still hated that Bioware brought back Leliana if she had killed. I still think it was the right thing to bring Leliana back but oh well i bet many will disagree. Meredith was the big DA 2 endboss so bringing her back is also another blow for Hawke and will start the Memes: Can Hawke even kill things or finishing the job?" We don´t know if he is really dead. We all assume that he is dead but unlike Rezaren it wouldn´t that far fetched that he could have survived somehow. I like him and i want to see more of him? So yeah bring him back.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 22:07:24 GMT
back is also another blow for Hawke and will start the Memes: Can Hawke even kill things or finishing the job?" The meme doesn't even need to start. I love HAwke but their story is that of someone trying to do their best and always losing.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 10, 2022 22:20:34 GMT
Qwydion is so goofy and lovable, I seriously wonder if she's Ben-Hassrath. I don't. You can't fake a cutesy nature like that- she was kind to the elven slaves even with no witnesses. They're just laying groundwork that it's not only Inky who can be a Vashoth mage. - It's possible, but as DA and this series have shown - be careful who you trust. Especially "trustworthy" mages.
- And being a spy is all about alleviating suspicion, and in this case, to the audience as well. Her perky persona would just make her a better spy. The scene with the elves just shows that she could be a good person as well. t's kinda bothersome that the elf is getting all the shit but not the Qunari. I noticed that and was very confused about that. Isn't a war raging right now that Tevinter is losing? who's cool with the Rando horn lady? Maybe because she was a mage so they knew she couldn't be Qun? - As the Qunari attacking Tevinter isn't mentioned in the series, it must be happening very shortly after Trespasser, but before (at least some of) Tevinter Nights & the recent comics.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2022 22:23:28 GMT
She was interesting in that she actually never joined the Inquisition? She showed up with the rallying cry of lets destroy Tevinter and Leliana was like...ya, no. I get what you're saying, but it's not happening. But also, what was Hira even carrying during that scene, some sort of glowing jewlery She was a part of the Inquisition, and brought up going after the Venatori in Tevinter after Corypheus was stopped.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 10, 2022 22:24:49 GMT
Regardless what they did with Fairbanks in the show. I must it has been a genius move to made him a part of the show. It would have been so easy to pick a more known character but chosen and fleshing him out of all people love it. Major game character still can appear but in amound of Cassandra and Leliana (i not kidding) was fine and appreciated. Because its fun and i love character speculation which minor! character would i choose for Season 2? Edit: If we are getting another season of course. It has to be a Kirkwall aka DA 2 character. Like Fairbanks i would ignore the player decisions and chose (i have to admit i am bit proud because i doubt that many would pick her or even remember her) Lia but in her role as supporting guardswoman. So see shortly Aveline Hendyr (last name drop!) and obviously Varric is also interessing but like Cassandra and Leliana they shouldn´t be featured that much in the show. I also had toy with the idea in nominating Brennan Evighan but i like the idea of showing more from Lia more. Also i find her backstory way more interessing. Also had Brennan even one?
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Post by lucretia on Dec 10, 2022 22:30:04 GMT
Hi, quick question; Should I read the latest comics before watching the series?
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 10, 2022 22:31:44 GMT
Hi, quick question; Should I read the latest comics before watching the series? While it doesn't really matter, chronologically, Absolution would come first.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2022 22:32:19 GMT
Hi, quick question; Should I read the latest comics before watching the series? You don’t need to. There’s nothing from any of the comics in here.
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Post by githcheater on Dec 10, 2022 22:35:40 GMT
Tim Sheridan 🏳️🌈 @iamtimsheridanTo our amazing #DragonAge fans: SO important — if you like Absolution and want to see more, you have to make sure everyone’s watching and rewatching *this weekend* and don’t forget to rate it 2 thumbs up 👍👍!! TY! 🙏❤️ I encouraged a friend to watch it this weekend, and I will watch it again tonight ...
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 22:35:41 GMT
Now I've gotten to the twist and... wth? O.o Current theory: Fairbanks is not Fairbanks. Second theory: Fairbanks is Fairbanks, and Hira is evil. Cus WHY ON EARTH would you release that ward if you aren't? How'd she even know it would do what it did? Cus she did seem to know. Also, the light bypassed her harmlessly... Yeah, no. Going with that as primary theory. Hira is suss. I thought she was just casting some sort of anti magic on what was clearly some sort of magical temple thingy. Ya ,I should have picked up she clearly knew too much. But Bioware tricks me every time, I'm super gullible and willing to fill in the blanks. 've noticed Neb the guard is featured prominently in them in a panel and he/she hasn't even spoken yet. I noticed that too. I have no idea how Tassia didn't pick up on him being a corpse. And the blank yandere look upon spotting miriam doesn't help lol I know this look well woman like that doesn't deserve your tears" does give off villain vibes, though I don't knwo what he means by "a woman like that"??? And I still think she's suss, so...Hmmm. Man, another flag I missed. I just interpreted it that, "No one is good enough for you, my sister." Timeline-wise, this seems to be set after Trespasser, but before (at least some of) the events in Tevinter Nights. I don't recall any mention of the Qunari attacking Tevinter in the series. Let me know if they did though! Oh, I guess that would make sense. I wonder why they didn't do a release and save TN for later then. This location seemed to be in the middle of nowhere, maybe very south, so I just figured they were not in the fight. But ya, the war not being lost yet connects with not being Anti Qunari appearing people yet. - I am also still confused about who Memory was talking about. Like, why would he be hesitant to name either Hira or Meredith? He wasn't hesitant. He was never asked He said, "People who want this are going to destroy Tevinter, you shouldn't use it." And then Rez the idiot was like, "No one asked you for your opinion, now tell me what I actually want to know!" Pride demon created. No one should see these plans but they look over them in a public tavern? This was a moment that made me so disappointed I was like... if this wasn't Dragon Age I would stop watching. Idiot Balls are lazy writing.
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Post by lucretia on Dec 10, 2022 22:37:26 GMT
Thank you for clearing that up, it proved difficult to find out by googling. Then I'll watch it tonight. 😄
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 10, 2022 22:39:40 GMT
Hi, quick question; Should I read the latest comics before watching the series? No idea about the about coming The Missing series but like others say No.
But let me say it like this it don´t hurt if you had played DA 2 (mainly Act 3) and DAI to better understand Season 1.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 22:44:12 GMT
Seeing Meredith come back didn't particularly surprise me, I recall there was some lore hinting she wasn't really dead, but how did she create a whole cult in Kirkwall under Varric's nose? Because he keeps gallivanting off and neglecting his duties? Who can say? If it is something that does get included in the game, no doubt we will find out then.So the timeline assumption seems to be before Varric is even viscount which is kinda disappointing because now it puts Varric in the upcoming comic as being a MIA Viscount. Getting whiplash on this. Maybe these events made him Viscount in the first place.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2022 22:46:52 GMT
Seeing Meredith come back didn't particularly surprise me, I recall there was some lore hinting she wasn't really dead, but how did she create a whole cult in Kirkwall under Varric's nose? Because he keeps gallivanting off and neglecting his duties? Who can say? If it is something that does get included in the game, no doubt we will find out then.So the timeline assumption seems to be before Varric is even viscount which is kinda disappointing because now it puts Varric in the upcoming comic as being a MIA Viscount. Getting whiplash on this. Maybe these events made him Viscount in the first place. Varric is viscount when Absolution takes place because it is after the Inquisition “broke up”.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 22:51:21 GMT
Sorry mabye use another NPC or a new as fake bestrayer I literally thought it either 1 wasn't Fairbanks or 2. The reason Fairbanks constantly brought up his wife while going after a resurrection magic tool? She's dead. And he wants her back in a dark black grief. Meredith are also back as villians or oh what a twist surprising allies? in Dreadwolf? Is the Dreadwolf alone not good enough. If the timeline is post trespasser so a lot of time has passed by DA:D
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 22:53:13 GMT
So the timeline assumption seems to be before Varric is even viscount which is kinda disappointing because now it puts Varric in the upcoming comic as being a MIA Viscount. Getting whiplash on this. Maybe these events made him Viscount in the first place. Varric is viscount when Absolution takes place because it is after the Inquisition “broke up”. Oooo. I am not 100% on the pulse of this timeline business, thank you for correcting me. Post Trespasser, Pre Tevinter Nights. So a war is happening, and Tevinter folk not being mean to the Qunari mage is weird.
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2022 23:04:54 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, in the book Meredith is still a statue in the middle of Kirkwall, not hidden somewhere in the city, surrounded by her followers. That status is there, but all the lyrium is connected. Does her "mind" have to stay in one spot or can it travel the length of the network like tree branches? Does Bioware have a fetish for rogue elf/human mage lesbian couples? It's what, third already? O_o Who are the other two? Sera/Dagna-- nope. Celene/Briala -- nope. Charter and whatsherface? wasn't she a warrior Masked Empire also set things up for DAI, although again it wasn't necessary to have read it. After reading it, what happens and should happen at the winter palace is super clear. The game doesn't come close to explaining WHY Leliana herself wouldn't have filled inky on the slaughter of the alienage that she helped perpetrate?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2022 23:16:21 GMT
Varric is viscount when Absolution takes place because it is after the Inquisition “broke up”. Oooo. I am not 100% on the pulse of this timeline business, thank you for correcting me. Post Trespasser, Pre Tevinter Nights. So a war is happening, and Tevinter folk not being mean to the Qunari mage is weird. I feel like the war card in Trespasser was more to mean that between it and DAD the war started rather than the war began immediately after. That way people who only play the games knows that the war has started. So this show could be before the Qun invades but after Trespasser. Or maybe at this point it is early enough in the invasion that it seems no different than the usual skirmishes. Also Tevinter more than anyone knows how Par Vollen treats their mages, so a Qunari mage that doesn’t fit that (like being able to speak) means they’ll know they aren’t a part of the Qun but instead either a slave or a Vashoth. Also also the only people we see her interact with is a merchant who seems to be part of the underworld since he has some illicit goods in the back and slaves (who have probably never seen a Qunari)she just saved from zombies. The city gate guards meanwhile stare at her with hate but she’s pretending to be a slave so they don’t do anything.
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