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Post by dazk on Jul 19, 2024 3:41:13 GMT
I heard it said one during a Dev interview that you could basically have Nix act like a face-f---er from the Alien franchise, LOL. I found that both funny and creepy. Face- hugger. They're called face-huggers. 🤣 Earlier today, I watched the latest gameplay video. It looks bad, in my opinion. The same stiff animations and janky-face problems that I noticed months ago are still present, and the game already went gold. This one has gone from a probable purchase to a wait-and-see, for me. I love SW, or at least the parts of the IP that I choose to acknowledge as SW, but this just looks very unpolished and very "Ubi". Stiff, dated movement, including the combat, terrible environmental effects, and a lot of repackaged Ubi gameplay gimmicks (another f-ing pet) leave me feeling very underwhelmed. ☹️ Yeah that was OK but the graphics are definitely pretty ordinary, I just played DAI and that looked better. Gameplay wise it again seemed OK but I am really not loving the main character and seriously how do you go to a base and not clear it. *SCRUB*
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 19, 2024 10:41:10 GMT
It may be because I'm sort of a die-hard star wars nerd...And I have been ever since I was about 3 years old, but for me, I really liked what I saw in the recent gameplay video. Having said that- everyone still talks about The DIVISION games- but I have watched YT vids of them and the environments especially (to me) looked dull, dated and like something from the late-90s, early 2000s. There were other games out at the same time that I thought looked waaaay better. So when I heard Outlaws was being made by Ubisoft I was not impressed. BUT, with everything I have seen thus far I must admit I have changed my mind. Granted I still have to play the game and see the final, polished product for myself....But so far everything they have shown us, looks very detailed, bright n' pretty etc etc and I like the gameplay. This appears to be exactly the kind of game I like to play.
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Post by dazk on Jul 19, 2024 11:18:47 GMT
It may be because I'm sort of a die-hard star wars nerd...And I have been ever since I was about 3 years old, but for me, I really liked what I saw in the recent gameplay video. Having said that- everyone still talks about The DIVISION games- but I have watched YT vids of them and the environments especially (to me) looked dull, dated and like something from the late-90s, early 2000s. There were other games out at the same time that I thought looked waaaay better. So when I heard Outlaws was being made by Ubisoft I was not impressed. BUT, with everything I have seen thus far I must admit I have changed my mind. Granted I still have to play the game and see the final, polished product for myself....But so far everything they have shown us, looks very detailed, bright n' pretty etc etc and I like the gameplay. This appears to be exactly the kind of game I like to play. The Division released in 2016 and that was what I was alluding to with my DAI comment and it released I think in 2014. It's now 2024 and if you compare what we have seen so far to games like HZD:FW it's a pale shadow in terms of graphics quality. The graphics in The Division were i think very appropriate to the setting of the game as well as the time it was released. I honestly remember being impressed with the graphics and the gameplay which honestly looks better than the gameplay in the Star Wars Outlaws video. It had one of the best cover systems I have ever experienced and I cannot figure why other games have not adopted it. Maps were good, gun building etc. was good and it wasn't just a shooter it had a decent story behind it. I'd still be playing it today if any of my online friends still did or if I could convince my son to. Here's some pic's from TD, as I said the game is set in dark and snowy environment a lot of the time but the quality was pretty good, Playing in it the atmosphere given the games setting was great.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 19, 2024 14:26:42 GMT
I'm a huge Star Wars fan. The game just has so many qualities that I find irritating, many of them related to Kay Vess.
Why is she so orange? They couldn't figure out how to reproduce Humberly Gonzalez's complexion? This feels like an easy task, yet she's orange. Her hair is absolutely terrible. I get it -- 1970s, but it's really bad. While this is entirely subjective, it bothers me. I don't think there will be alternative styles, since she carries a slicing tool in her hair. She never manages to look like a real person to me.
Gameplay being so inextricably tied up with an animal companion is not something I'm happy to see. Ubisoft has overdone this so much that I'm now reflexively repelled by it.
Kay's animations are super stiff. She doesn't move like a believable person in a real world. It makes combat look stiff. Her walking and running even looks wrong. Game devs solved this ages ago. I'm shocked to see a title of this magnitude look so subpar.
The environmental reactivity looks terrible. Look at the little black puff of dust (originating from tan dust), when she drops down the hole. It could be right out of a game on the original Playstation or Xbox. When she walks through the water, it sends out violent and completely uniform ripples. It looks more like a visual effect indicating a powerful energy pulse than anything you'll ever see in a liquid. It's jarringly bad.
At one point, Kay gets shot by a blaster. Her character model doesn't even flinch. She grunts, but just keeps going, as if nothing happened. It could be this is a result of the dev playing on Super Easy mode, or whatever, but it made the combat look... disconnected. It reaffirms that feeling of Kay being a doll piloted through the world, rather than a person living in that world.
I could call out more stuff, but don't want to tear down the game. I'm just genuinely shocked out how unfinished and dated it looks. I expected a lot better from Ubisoft, who know how to make good games; particularly with it being a Star Wars game. We SW fans are so starved for good games that any really good one becomes a legendary classic to be replayed for decades. Maybe Ubi will fix at least some of this stuff, but I don't think they will. Some of it is simply not the kind of stuff easily fixed.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 19, 2024 19:48:12 GMT
OK I just watched the fetch quest gameplay and I have mixed feelings. I'm loving the music and sound design. I love the environments overall. I always like pet companions, so not bothered by the gameplay integration.
But agreed, the animations look stiff, and while I love her hair and like her face, she looks creepy doll without proper mocap. Uncharted 4 from 2016 looked much better than this in every way. OK, it's Naughty Dog, TLOU remaster has life-like facial animations like I've never seen anywhere else since. So maybe that's an unfair comparison. But yeah, the animations make her not look like a real person. I agree that the visual quality is shockingly bad in some ways for a AAA game in 2024.
The explosions and particle effects, my god... And even though I watched it in 4K on my OLED monitor it was pixelated AF. So I cannot tell if it's the YT compression or if the game has really bad texture quality. Especially that cave looked awful. Please don't let this be what PC ultra looks like!
I'm still going to play this but I was going to wait for a discount anyway. Now more than ever. Maybe 6 months down the road they will have added some more polish. I'm still kinda hyped for the game even though I'm ironically not a huge SW fan and haven't watched the original trilogy in like 25 years. But I usually enjoy Ubisoft open worlds.
Sidenote: Bonus points for mentioning Mass Effect as an influence in that one interview. Probably empty name dropping but I appreciate it nonetheless.
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Post by dazk on Jul 20, 2024 0:12:54 GMT
Not trying to be an ass but just thought I'd give some other references and had a thought but do you think SW:O had some sort of filter over it? So AC Odyssey a Ubisoft game released in 2018, this is what we know they can create in an open world game in terms of a female main character and environments: Even a bland environment And the sublime Mass effect Andromeda, wildly panned game and one of their desert environments.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 20, 2024 1:04:50 GMT
God damn it, dazk - whenever you post an Odyssey screenshot I can hear that music…and I don’t have time to play that at the moment ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) ********* With regards to the video, it wasn’t anything special, no. But I’m still on the ‘likely’ side of the fence for this. Not Day 1 (but that’s my rule with pretty much any game), but early-ish. I am weighing up whether it is this or Shadows to partner (play second fiddle) to DAVe. *insert gif of Ubisoft “I’ve already got your money, dude” here*. I’ll end up getting both, but given that Shadows will be 99% melee (for me), it might be too similar to DAVe, and the ranged nature of Vess’ combat, plus space travel/combat is a draw. There is some weirdness, though, to the idea of playing a Star Wars game where I have no chance of ever holding a light saber.
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Post by dazk on Jul 20, 2024 1:55:13 GMT
God damn it, dazk - whenever you post an Odyssey screenshot I can hear that music…and I don’t have time to play that at the moment ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/eMjudLqrqAjoLIOqTalh.png) ********* With regards to the video, it wasn’t anything special, no. But I’m still on the ‘likely’ side of the fence for this. Not Day 1 (but that’s my rule with pretty much any game), but early-ish. I am weighing up whether it is this or Shadows to partner (play second fiddle) to DAVe. *insert gif of Ubisoft “I’ve already got your money, dude” here*. I’ll end up getting both, but given that Shadows will be 99% melee (for me), it might be too similar to DAVe, and the ranged nature of Vess’ combat, plus space travel/combat is a draw. There is some weirdness, though, to the idea of playing a Star Wars game where I have no chance of ever holding a light saber. If it wasn't so close to AC Shadows, I'd be up for buying it at release as a filler but from what I have seen I am happy to let it wait till after Shadows and possibly after Veilguard whenever that drops. Re Odyssey yeah it's the same for me and same with Black Flag I always start singing the sea shanties.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 20, 2024 15:55:44 GMT
I hope they don't delay it; I see nothing wrong with the graphics. I think they look nice. Some games look much better, others look much worse. It all depends on what engine is used and software to design everything. (my take on the issues).
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 20, 2024 18:45:15 GMT
The last gameplay vid just about killed any interest I had in the game. Very underwhelming.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 20, 2024 20:46:49 GMT
I am wondering why they picked that one quest for the IGN preview. Was it just because it was on Tatooine and it is an iconic place for Star Wars? For some of the other video clips I have seen were in places that were more interesting visually and probably made a better impression on players.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 20, 2024 22:26:14 GMT
I still liked it. We've (almost) never seen the insides of a Sarlaac before...save for that small clip of Bobba Fett when he was working through his escape.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 20, 2024 23:04:46 GMT
I am wondering why they picked that one quest for the IGN preview. Was it just because it was on Tatooine and it is an iconic place for Star Wars? For some of the other video clips I have seen were in places that were more interesting visually and probably made a better impression on players. If I had to guess, I would say it was this, and they didn’t want to reveal any more of the story. Yes, it’s a filler quest, but it was a new location to show, that is well known to Star Wars fans.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 21, 2024 1:16:48 GMT
I am wondering why they picked that one quest for the IGN preview. Was it just because it was on Tatooine and it is an iconic place for Star Wars? For some of the other video clips I have seen were in places that were more interesting visually and probably made a better impression on players. If I had to guess, I would say it was this, and they didn’t want to reveal any more of the story. Yes, it’s a filler quest, but it was a new location to show, that is well known to Star Wars fans. I don't mind quests that aren't part of the plotline, but it just seems that Tatooine is a bit of a bland area to try and impress people with. It might be iconic, but it is pretty visually boring too.
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Post by dazk on Jul 21, 2024 1:26:56 GMT
I am wondering why they picked that one quest for the IGN preview. Was it just because it was on Tatooine and it is an iconic place for Star Wars? For some of the other video clips I have seen were in places that were more interesting visually and probably made a better impression on players. If I had to guess, I would say it was this, and they didn’t want to reveal any more of the story. Yes, it’s a filler quest, but it was a new location to show, that is well known to Star Wars fans. And it had Jawa's.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 21, 2024 4:50:51 GMT
If I had to guess, I would say it was this, and they didn’t want to reveal any more of the story. Yes, it’s a filler quest, but it was a new location to show, that is well known to Star Wars fans. And it had Jawa's. When Disney’s legal team say you can’t use Baby Yoda ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/owHrEkYBxiMjyZZrMwOT.png)
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 21, 2024 4:51:29 GMT
If I had to guess, I would say it was this, and they didn’t want to reveal any more of the story. Yes, it’s a filler quest, but it was a new location to show, that is well known to Star Wars fans. I don't mind quests that aren't part of the plotline, but it just seems that Tatooine is a bit of a bland area to try and impress people with. It might be iconic, but it is pretty visually boring too. No argument here.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 27, 2024 10:30:10 GMT
It's the strange thing, because on one hand, Ubisoft games have never been my favourite game, However, they have always produced attractive games.
The environment of Ubisoft games usually jump off the screen, the respective protagonists always look cool(usually the best thing about AC games), and the moment to moment gameplay always looks like something that activates the dophemine nicely.
That said, none of this seems to apply to this game. The gameplay looks wonky, the environments look dull, and the protagonist looks uninspired.
As someone indifferent to Star Wars it also looks somewhat...Star Wars nostalgia circle jerky. To the extent I feel somewhat frozen out.
In any case, releasing at the tail end of summer, at the end of the release drought, is a smart move. I don't think it would compete with the heavy hitters, like hopefully DAV, but it should still pick up a lot of sales.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 28, 2024 20:22:56 GMT
Has anyone seen the supposedly newly leaked gameplay footage for Outlaws yet? I can't find it, but I read "if you look hard enough, it's actually not hard to find" (as in has not been completely taken down from the Internet/Web) so I was wondering if anyone had seen or and/or if youcan post it here...?
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Post by saandrig on Jul 29, 2024 9:28:20 GMT
Has anyone seen the supposedly newly leaked gameplay footage for Outlaws yet? I can't find it, but I read "if you look hard enough, it's actually not hard to find" (as in has not been completely taken down from the Internet/Web) so I was wondering if anyone had seen or and/or if youcan post it here...?
Try any of the links there. The "mirror" one works for me.
Anyway, I watched everything they put up so far, including leaks. There are definitely unpolished things like movement, hair, water, etc. I can't tell if it's because the game was rushed or the designers couldn't make it work. It's noticeable enough to be distracting. And it's not something you can fix with patches, it's there to stay.
But I quite approve of how the quests are being done. Both character and ship upgrades seem to be received through side quests that are variable enough. Pretty good for world building.
Combat is serviceable.
It's not quite your average Ubisoft open world game. Ubisoft usually gives us quite polished animations, one huge open map with maybe several smaller ones, mostly fetch quests with little variation. None of that seems to be in the game. I am actually getting curious to see the final product.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 29, 2024 13:21:44 GMT
THanks, Saadrig. I actually got one of them to work....I'll check it out.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 29, 2024 14:57:42 GMT
OKAY...Ridiculous compression on the video aside, as far as everything else is concerned I really liked what I saw about that video. I think the ACTUAL game and gameplay will be really good. Sure there will likely be some bugs, glitches and other stuff that needs to be fixed even on Launch Day but no game in the history of gaming has ever released with 500% Perfection, it's just not possible.
As for gameplay elements, I get that everybody has their own likes/dislikes and opinions on what is not good, what could be better etc....But everyone is entitled to their own opinions, thoughts, ideas and even criticisms. After all, everyone is and will be approaching the game from their own history and experiences. But I can tell you that from my own lived experience and likes/dislikes etc, and from a history of enjoying a certain type of game (such as Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor, Horizon, Tomb Raider, Ghost of Tsushima, MASS EFFECT etc etc) I think that this game, STAR WARS Outlaws, has a very similar gameplay style, and so I fully expect to thoroughly enjoy it.
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The world just opened up...l'm now hearing sounds that I haven't heard in quite some time!
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 30, 2024 18:27:58 GMT
A really cool in-depth gameplay breakdown of the recent gameplay that was released
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