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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 14, 2023 20:25:16 GMT
I guess this is as good a thread as any for this question.
I love Dragon Age Origins. It is - by some margin - my favourite of the three released DA games (although I love Inquisition and really like 2). However, in recent years, whenever I've gone to play Origins, it has been difficult. Part of that is probably the visuals, of course, which were dated before it released, but also the types of games I had/have been playing since it came out have changed.
Now, however, having played BG3 exclusively since it released, I am wondering if I'll get that 'feeling' again with Origins. Has anyone that played - and loved - BG3 gone back to Origins in the last few months? If so, how did you find it?
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Post by duckley on Dec 14, 2023 21:53:59 GMT
DOS2 and BG3 are both great games. Overall I prefer the Dragon age games. The playing style better suits me, as do the character and story. I hold the Witcher series, the Uncharted Series, the last of us, and dragons dogma (can’t wait for March’s) on the same pedestal. All fabulous in their own right.
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Post by Noxluxe on Dec 15, 2023 20:27:27 GMT
I guess this is as good a thread as any for this question. I love Dragon Age Origins. It is - by some margin - my favourite of the three released DA games (although I love Inquisition and really like 2). However, in recent years, whenever I've gone to play Origins, it has been difficult. Part of that is probably the visuals, of course, which were dated before it released, but also the types of games I had/have been playing since it came out have changed. Now, however, having played BG3 exclusively since it released, I am wondering if I'll get that 'feeling' again with Origins. Has anyone that played - and loved - BG3 gone back to Origins in the last few months? If so, how did you find it? Hmm. I've always played Origins on my Xbox 360, and playing BG3 on my laptop and then going back to that don't feel like they overlap enough as experiences for BG3 to start overshadowing Origins, at least. They have two very different atmospheres. Origins takes a fairly straightforward Tolkienesque and classic Bioware approach to fantasy, while BG3 has a way more modern, subversive and realistic feel and tells a more complicated and unconventional story, with many more moving parts. Which isn't always what I'm in the mood for. The mechanics are also way more complicated, especially when you get to medium tier and everyone starts having a crazy amount of options and magic items vs Origins' steadily growing talent pools. Origins' companion strategy makes up for that lack of complexity without it ever becoming as ludicrous as optimizing four different DnD characters' three different actions, one turn at a time. Which can be great fun, but also... a lot. Again, sometimes you just don't need a single skirmish with some mooks to take half an hour and require two hundred decisions? Origins is the more relaxing and classical fantasy RPG to my mind, and that's the craving I'll be using it to satisfy. If A Song of Ice And Fire/Game of Thrones didn't ruin Lord of the Rings for you, you can probably still enjoy Dragon Age as a separate thing too. But yeah, some of the polish of the dialogue flexibility has definitely worn off.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 18, 2023 8:57:57 GMT
The backstory isn't simular. But both are the heroic hero which save everyone. OK, that's my mistake. I thought he chose it and wasn't tricked. Sorry i get it now. The criminal part was a reference to the real world. If you are in need of money or so and you make a deal with mafia. Doing jobs for them. Even if you was a very good person before that, after you are helping the mafia you are a criminal.
That was when i thought Wyll chose to get help from mizora. I don't know if i understand your last sentence right. Maybe i need more knowledge about Patrons. Sorry, I wasn't on here for a while. The last sentence was a reference to a character of Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, which was made into a tv show a while ago. WHat I meant was, that Crowley is a devil in that story, who is actually good, if snarky, and works with an angel to stop the end of the world (the biblical Armageddon) , because he likes to live on Earth more than in hell.
I just meant, that when Mizora came up to Wyll to offer the pact in exchange for helping him saving BG, she could in the long run have turned out to be like Crowley instead of the awful character, she is. Wyll took the deal out of desperation, but he didn't know, in how much trouble he was, until after he got to know Mizora better. No Problem. Ah now i understand.
That is the think i musst look up. In my knowledge he would know who she is. That is why i don't understand and need more info about that Lore.
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 19, 2023 20:39:00 GMT
I guess this is as good a thread as any for this question. I love Dragon Age Origins. It is - by some margin - my favourite of the three released DA games (although I love Inquisition and really like 2). However, in recent years, whenever I've gone to play Origins, it has been difficult. Part of that is probably the visuals, of course, which were dated before it released, but also the types of games I had/have been playing since it came out have changed. Now, however, having played BG3 exclusively since it released, I am wondering if I'll get that 'feeling' again with Origins. Has anyone that played - and loved - BG3 gone back to Origins in the last few months? If so, how did you find it? I did this before Bg3 was released and there were some parts I like and some I didn’t (dao could use a remaster) Unlike Bg3 combat is a little clunkier and obviously graphics are very dated Voice acting and story are still brilliant! There’s no jumping etc Dao was the first game I truly felt like I could make this bad for others decisions The fade part and some others are game breakers for me now Still the best ending of any da game. Truly felt epic in those final sections but the dlc made me miss the ones I left behind (I literally have been chasing morrigan for 14 years) they couldn’t pull the trigger on the warden Da still wins when it comes to some omg scenes in gaming but Bg3 is right there Just be prepared and lower those expectations. Really curious if you finish game
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Post by TabithaTH on Dec 25, 2023 19:35:08 GMT
I guess this is as good a thread as any for this question. I love Dragon Age Origins. It is - by some margin - my favourite of the three released DA games (although I love Inquisition and really like 2). However, in recent years, whenever I've gone to play Origins, it has been difficult. Part of that is probably the visuals, of course, which were dated before it released, but also the types of games I had/have been playing since it came out have changed. Now, however, having played BG3 exclusively since it released, I am wondering if I'll get that 'feeling' again with Origins. Has anyone that played - and loved - BG3 gone back to Origins in the last few months? If so, how did you find it? Got BG3 for Christmas, but have only gotten through the Character creator and it has been a while since I played DAO. However, I can already say that I feel DnD is more rigid when it comes to RP’ing your char. I like how in DAO you can be a smooth talker regardless of class. I generally like to play Lone ranger types, but they're not Char based, so it is super suboptimal to be a persuader. I am already not that good with utilizing my characters to their full potential. Anything less than optimal will be an even greater detriment to my abilities to survive combat. I also find myself facing choice paralysis because of this. The feeling that there’s a correct way of doing things. I know enough to have a decent idea of what can potentially be OP, but (thematically) that doesn’t fit with my (usual) character's personality. I find myself unable to actually start the game, whereas DAO I feel I can jump right back into it, no questions asked.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 26, 2023 7:43:24 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution.
Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster.
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Post by fylimar on Dec 26, 2023 11:55:34 GMT
Sorry, I wasn't on here for a while. The last sentence was a reference to a character of Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, which was made into a tv show a while ago. WHat I meant was, that Crowley is a devil in that story, who is actually good, if snarky, and works with an angel to stop the end of the world (the biblical Armageddon) , because he likes to live on Earth more than in hell.
I just meant, that when Mizora came up to Wyll to offer the pact in exchange for helping him saving BG, she could in the long run have turned out to be like Crowley instead of the awful character, she is. Wyll took the deal out of desperation, but he didn't know, in how much trouble he was, until after he got to know Mizora better. No Problem. Ah now i understand.
That is the think i musst look up. In my knowledge he would know who she is. That is why i don't understand and need more info about that Lore.
I'm pretty sure, he didn't know her before, so he didn't know, what he put himself into. I mean, it is common knowledge in the Forgotten Realms, that dealing with devils is dangerous, still a lot of people seem to be doing it and not all of them seem to have a problem with it. Korilla, Raphaels warlock, seems to be quite content with her job. At least she tells you that, when you ask her. ANd Wyll was very young, when he made the deal, so naive enough probably, that he thought, Mizora would be true to her word.
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Post by vonuber on Dec 26, 2023 16:42:47 GMT
BG3 was a fucking disaster. If this is how disasters are now, then I'd like more of them please.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 26, 2023 22:08:38 GMT
BG3 was a fucking disaster. If this is how disasters are now, then I'd like more of them please. Indeed I'm erall yenjoying BG3. It' no tm yfavourite game but I' das ygiven time and more effor tlearning the mechanics I could see BG3 getting among my favourites to play. Especially with the numbe rof differen tways there are to handl esituations. Als owhen you choose a route there's n oguarantee it's goin gt owork wit hthe dicerolls which makes things more interesting. I wouldn't say it's the best game eve rbut I woul das yit' s one of the most solid t ocom eou to fthis year and I'm looking forward t oseeing where m ystories in this game go as I pla ythem.
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Post by Noxluxe on Dec 27, 2023 2:18:58 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I'm... getting the same feeling I once got when there was a line going out the cafeteria and halfway around the building for puff pasty cups with chicken and asparagus filling at my school. That sudden, slapping realization that I don't actually understand other human beings. Can't even fathom the mind of someone who would put the storytelling of Inquisition over any or all of the games on that list. Or any list. That game is the narrative equivalent of off-brand sugar-free gum that someone else spat into your mouth which miraculously retains a little bit of unidentifiable flavor. That said, I'd agree that BG3 feels like it peters out more than it ends, and the epilogue does next to nothing to remedy that. Though I also have a hard time imagining what sort of ending could be written that would both live up to the interactivity of the first half of the game and the epic worldstate-changing consequences we expect from games like The Witcher and Dragon Age, and would simultaneously fit semi-neatly into Forgotten Realms lore as carried forward in a hundred other properties. Personally, the thing I can point to that undermines my sense of epicness in the ending is the fact that we don't get to Baldur's Gate until the last third/quarter of the game. If the journey there had been slightly more streamlined so we at least got there toward the middle of Act 2, and used it as a hub for other excursions to different places in Act 3 while building connections and rapport with different factions, I'd have an easier time finding satisfaction in defending/saving it at the climax? As-is, it's just a big metropolis we get to at the end of our journey and end up saving because that's just where the finale happens to take place. It's not "the city" the same way Neverwinter is in those games, and the way Baldur's Gate was in the original, for example.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 27, 2023 6:26:08 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I got the game for Christmas and I'm currently playing and enjoying it. All I'm going to say is that gamers always have double standards especially when it comes to games that are beloved. Is that thought that helped me whenever people accuse me of being a "paid shill" for Bethesda whenever talking about Starfield.
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Post by TabithaTH on Dec 27, 2023 9:00:49 GMT
Forgotten Realms has an official canon ending for BG2, which is the one BG3 uses. If WotC needs to make anything based off of the story of BG3, they’ll just choose whatever end fits their needs the best.
Likewise, Larians other properties have an official canon ending in regards to any sequels despite offering vastly different outcomes at the end. The OG plans for a DOS3, for instance, would have contradicted my ending completely. I doubt we’ll see any BG4, but if we ever do, Larian would properly go with whatever end has been chosen to be canon.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 27, 2023 9:12:04 GMT
Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I'm... getting the same feeling I once got when there was a line going out the cafeteria and halfway around the building for puff pasty cups with chicken and asparagus filling at my school. That sudden, slapping realization that I don't actually understand other human beings. It isn't that i don't understand them: I myself like games other don't, but i have a different taste. So as long as i can play games and nobody forces me to play a game I don't like, it's okay. The problem is the trend setting. To many games will try to look like BG3. So the games i like will become less. And for me the best storytelling games are in no particular order: Baldur's gate, Dragon age Origins and Pathfinder wrath of the righteous. For me the witchers storytelling isn't bad, it just doesn't captivate me enough. Maybe because of the stress the gameplay giving me or the way other play this game. I watch youtuber playing the witcher. So my hope is DAD will be good enough for me to enjoy, because if we get a nummber 5 it looks like it will be very different story wise. I don't like BG3s humor or story pacing. And I will at any time chose DAI over BG3. Yes the sidequest aren't the best, but at least i can enjoy the main story.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 27, 2023 9:22:03 GMT
Forgotten Realms has an official canon ending for BG2, which is the one BG3 uses. If WotC needs to make anything based off of the story of BG3, they’ll just choose whatever end fits their needs the best. Likewise, Larians other properties have an official canon ending in regards to any sequels despite offering vastly different outcomes at the end. The OG plans for a DOS3, for instance, would have contradicted my ending completely. I doubt we’ll see any BG4, but if we ever do, Larian would properly go with whatever end has been chosen to be canon. That is true. Even if i wish it wouldn't and game dev. would be braver.
The best the gamers can hope are ingame consequences like in DAO.
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Post by river82 on Dec 27, 2023 11:30:59 GMT
Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I'm... getting the same feeling I once got when there was a line going out the cafeteria and halfway around the building for puff pasty cups with chicken and asparagus filling at my school. That sudden, slapping realization that I don't actually understand other human beings. It isn't that i don't understand them: I myself like games other don't, but i have a different taste. So as long as i can play games and nobody forces me to play a game I don't like, it's okay. The problem is the trend setting. To many games will try to look like BG3. So the games i like will become less. And for me the best storytelling games are in no particular order: Baldur's gate, Dragon age Origins and Pathfinder wrath of the righteous. For me the witchers storytelling isn't bad, it just doesn't captivate me enough. Maybe because of the stress the gameplay giving me or the way other play this game. I watch youtuber playing the witcher. So my hope is DAD will be good enough for me to enjoy, because if we get a nummber 5 it looks like it will be very different story wise. I don't like BG3s humor or story pacing. And I will at any time chose DAI over BG3. Yes the sidequest aren't the best, but at least i can enjoy the main story. The way things are going, Bioware becoming a smaller studio working on one game at a time and with Mass Effect probably 4 or 5 years away, you're looking at maybe close to a decade before the next DA:5. At which point trends could change. I wouldn't at all worry about it right now, much more important for DA:D to be good.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 27, 2023 12:50:08 GMT
BG3 is awesome! Admittedly. combat pacing can improve but to do this Larian must break some D&D 5 rules, which some are, because BG3 is a computer game and not a table top one. Still it's better that DA:I. For one thing the game is designed to give the player multiple ways to finish a quest. And the spells? Why it makes DA:I a barren space compared to BG3. Plus the player is not straight jacketed in proceeding in a linear fashion and there is more....
Of course, I still love and play my two favs... DA:O and DA2. I can kick off a cliff my DA:I one, for all I care..... what a disaster of a game.... Where is my AUTO Attack from DA2 ?, where is my PAUSE? where are my s p e l l s ?? Where is my combat script??? Oh, yeah.. my Ranger can somersault backwards while jumping in the air and shoot the bow all at the same time...Wow !!!.. and the mage cam twirl the staff and shoot the enemy with a coloured spectrum assault.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 27, 2023 14:28:25 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I got the game for Christmas and I'm currently playing and enjoying it. All I'm going to say is that gamers always have double standards especially when it comes to games that are beloved. Is that thought that helped me whenever people accuse me of being a "paid shill" for Bethesda whenever talking about Starfield. Yeah agreed I've not got to the end either ye tas I'm stil in Act 1 on my latest attempt bu tthen I've not made it out o fAct 1 on an yattempts yet. But for me whilst I like both DA and BG they do feel and play different from on eanothe rtoo at leas tfo rme. Baldur's Gate for example feels like a more tactical experienc with the Iaometric camera and everything whereas for me Dragon Age has a bit like a action movie vibe about it. By that I mean DA' s systems aren' t as sophisticated as Baldur's Gate' s are. I'm starting to get better and making more progress but I don' t think I'v quite figured everything out yet I think it's just a matter o ftime befoer I do though and I am enjoying it enough to keep trying which is the most important thing for me.
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Post by vonuber on Dec 27, 2023 14:39:10 GMT
Here's the thing about BG3 - I see videos on YouTube with characters in scenes I've played through and I'm like 'who the hell is that??'
Or people talking about doing stuff that I didn't know existed, despite trying to be extra thorough on a playthrough. I mean just look at what a drak urge playthrough entails, it's wild.
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Here's the thing about BG3 - I see videos on YouTube with characters in scenes I've played through and I'm like 'who the hell is that??' Or people talking about doing stuff that I didn't know existed, despite trying to be extra thorough on a playthrough. I mean just look at what a drak urge playthrough entails, it's wild. This happens to me quite a bit, too, and I'm not even going to say how many hours I have in BG3. (Let's just call it "a lot.") There are so many elements that the game took to the next level, imo, but I'm not going to wax poetic about them here. I will say that the thing that blows my mind most (beyond Neil Newbon's voice acting), is the amount of reactivity, both with your companions and with the greater world at large. It's absolutely in a league of its own.
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Post by githcheater on Dec 27, 2023 19:18:33 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I got the game for Christmas and I'm currently playing and enjoying it. All I'm going to say is that gamers always have double standards especially when it comes to games that are beloved. Is that thought that helped me whenever people accuse me of being a "paid shill" for Bethesda whenever talking about Starfield. I guess I am a paid shill for Larian and BG3. despite not ever playing BG3. I guess I am enamored with BG3 because it is old school and D&D. I will probably buy BG3 within the next week for the Steam winter sale, but will wait to play it until I finish Hogwarts Legacy which I bought on sale during the fall sale.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 27, 2023 21:59:18 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I got the game for Christmas and I'm currently playing and enjoying it. All I'm going to say is that gamers always have double standards especially when it comes to games that are beloved. Is that thought that helped me whenever people accuse me of being a "paid shill" for Bethesda whenever talking about Starfield. I think the BG3/Starfield deal has made me less forgiving for BG3. I’ve been attacked for both enjoying Starfield and for calling out some things in BG3 (especially act 3). Now, where I may have been more calm about the disappointment of BG3, I’m just done sugar coating it for a fanbase that has been unbearable. I have been called far too many names for daring to think differently than the masses. After the shitshow with TW3/Inquisition I don’t need it yet again this year. Likely going to drop all forums and social media. The level of discourse is a joke.
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Post by river82 on Dec 27, 2023 22:55:46 GMT
Finally got around to post patch epilogue BG3… how the fuck is this acceptable? Everything is as non-commital as you can get and very few stories have a real resolution. Why so many still forgive such shit storytelling like they have have for Soulsborne, The Witcher, , and Last of Us? If Dragon Age takes after this, then I hope it dies forever and I’ll get only recognise up to Inquisition. BG3 was a fucking disaster. I got the game for Christmas and I'm currently playing and enjoying it. All I'm going to say is that gamers always have double standards especially when it comes to games that are beloved. Is that thought that helped me whenever people accuse me of being a "paid shill" for Bethesda whenever talking about Starfield. Hope you enjoy your time and hope you had fun in Starfield Gamers care too much what other gamers think these days. Like they need some random people on the internet to validate their gaming choices and it devolves into tribalism way too easily. For example the Spiderman 2 fanbase started hurling abuse when they won nothing at TGAs. They got SUPER salty. And double standards is and always will be a thing, when people get sucked into a game they are too busy enjoying the game to notice its flaws, then they play a game they don't click with and suddenly those same flaws are deal breakers. Starfield will probably have a long tail, might see a resurgence ala Cyberpunk once the mods and extra things start coming through. People's expectations for the release were sky high. And BG3 benefitted from 3 years early access to clear up all the Act 1 bugs otherwise there would probably have been quite a bit of disappointment also. Once next year rolls around I think RPG fans will start looking back fondly on 2023 and picking up/giving a second chance to quite a few games. It really has been a great year to be an RPG fan TBH
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Noxluxe
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Post by Noxluxe on Dec 27, 2023 23:06:54 GMT
I think the BG3/Starfield deal has made me less forgiving for BG3. I’ve been attacked for both enjoying Starfield and for calling out some things in BG3 (especially act 3). Now, where I may have been more calm about the disappointment of BG3, I’m just done sugar coating it for a fanbase that has been unbearable. I have been called far too many names for daring to think differently than the masses. After the shitshow with TW3/Inquisition I don’t need it yet again this year. Likely going to drop all forums and social media. The level of discourse is a joke. Sounds like you have shit to work on with yourself, there. There is such a thing as objective vs subjective quality, and you not liking something for whatever reason doesn't actually make it bad. Calling it bad, then, without justifying your claim in any satisfactory manner obviously invites others to argue and call you out. Maybe learn to moderate your own language and specify what you mean if you can't stand being challenged on it. I know a thing or two about feeling besieged for your controversial opinions, and the answer is usually either to accept that others will disagree, sometimes rudely, and that's okay and doesn't necessarily mean anything, to take a perfectly healthy and natural break, or to work on your own communication skills so more people actually hear what you're trying to say. Not "how dare these fuckers argue with me". BG3 probably isn't for everyone, or it'd have taken me less than half a year to complete it and definitely less than five weeks to get started on my second playthrough. But I have no trouble saying that it's completely objectively a whopping prize of an RPG, for the same reason that I have no trouble calling Inquisition's story and writing absolute dogshit with nice sprinkling on top. I know for a fact that I can defend both stances just by fairly comparing and quoting other games.
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Kabraxal
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 28, 2023 0:45:51 GMT
I think the BG3/Starfield deal has made me less forgiving for BG3. I’ve been attacked for both enjoying Starfield and for calling out some things in BG3 (especially act 3). Now, where I may have been more calm about the disappointment of BG3, I’m just done sugar coating it for a fanbase that has been unbearable. I have been called far too many names for daring to think differently than the masses. After the shitshow with TW3/Inquisition I don’t need it yet again this year. Likely going to drop all forums and social media. The level of discourse is a joke. Sounds like you have shit to work on with yourself, there. There is such a thing as objective vs subjective quality, and you not liking something for whatever reason doesn't actually make it bad. Calling it bad, then, without justifying your claim in any satisfactory manner obviously invites others to argue and call you out. Maybe learn to moderate your own language and specify what you mean if you can't stand being challenged on it. I know a thing or two about feeling besieged for your controversial opinions, and the answer is usually either to accept that others will disagree, sometimes rudely, and that's okay and doesn't necessarily mean anything, to take a perfectly healthy and natural break, or to work on your own communication skills so more people actually hear what you're trying to say. Not "how dare these fuckers argue with me". BG3 probably isn't for everyone, or it'd have taken me less than half a year to complete it and definitely less than five weeks to get started on my second playthrough. But I have no trouble saying that it's completely objectively a whopping prize of an RPG, for the same reason that I have no trouble calling Inquisition's story and writing absolute dogshit with nice sprinkling on top. I know for a fact that I can defend both stances just by fairly comparing and quoting other games. Evidence for my point.
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