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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 0:26:03 GMT
I think I might be approaching open world fatigue
This game has THE BEST inventory system ever! I could pick up everything everywhere and I never ran out of space! It's a hoarder's paradise.
This game though you really have to master changing weapons mid-fight.
Ditto.....soften 'em up with elemental damage, break out the impact and/or tear arrows to pick stuff off. Still not going down? Bust out the bolt blaster and blast away! And remember the weapon wheel is F not TAB in this game (unless you remap). The Bolt Blaster I have now has Frost and Explosive Ammo Is loaded with a 15% Crit. coil, 15% Knockdown chance and 15% knockdown damage plus two Frost Coils but the Frost Ammo takes care of just about every enemy I have faced near the end game. Thunderjaws, FireClaws, Slaghterspines, Dreadwings etc. Just freeze them up and they take damage at the same time or hit them with explosive bolts or the Sharp Shooter Bow with Precision arrows. Hey Erik what's doin' Bro, you just standing there doing nothing all frozen then getting fatally stabbed. Revenge is a bad ass bitch named Zo.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 30, 2024 0:26:04 GMT
I think I might be approaching open world fatigue
This game has THE BEST inventory system ever! I could pick up everything everywhere and I never ran out of space! It's a hoarder's paradise.
This game though you really have to master changing weapons mid-fight.
Ditto.....soften 'em up with elemental damage, break out the impact and/or tear arrows to pick stuff off. Still not going down? Bust out the bolt blaster and blast away! And remember the weapon wheel is F not TAB in this game (unless you remap). Yea hI started usin gthe bol tblasters towards heend they'e rvery useful especiall yagains tth eflyin genemies I'm giong t ose eif I casn ge tone o r2 o fthem a bi tearlie ron m ynext playthrough. The yfel talmos tas poewrful a sa machine weapon a ttimes such as a ravager cannon an dstuff.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 30, 2024 0:29:50 GMT
This game has THE BEST inventory system ever! I could pick up everything everywhere and I never ran out of space! It's a hoarder's paradise.
Ditto.....soften 'em up with elemental damage, break out the impact and/or tear arrows to pick stuff off. Still not going down? Bust out the bolt blaster and blast away! And remember the weapon wheel is F not TAB in this game (unless you remap). The Bolt Blaster I have now has Frost and Explosive Ammo Is loaded with a 15% Crit. coil, 15% Knockdown chance and 15% knockdown damage plus two Frost Coils but the Frost Ammo takes care of just about every enemy I have faced near the end game. Thunderjaws, FireClaws, Slaghterspines, Dreadwings etc. Just freeze them up and they take damage at the same time or hit them with explosive bolts or the Sharp Shooter Bow with Precision arrows. Hey Erik what's doin' Bro, you just standing there doing nothing all frozen then getting fatally stabbed. Revenge is a bad ass bitch named Zo. Well 2 badass bitches i fyo ucount Aloy as well as I'm suer Alo yfel tgoo dseein ghi scorpse on th egroun dtoo given what that bastard did to Varl
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 30, 2024 0:38:24 GMT
I still haven't figured out how to 'equip' certain ammo types with certain coils/buffs (frost, electricity, plasma etc). Do I use a Workbench for that? In spite of not having the best type of ammo abilities, I"ve just taken down Londra's overgrown Lizard and rescue my Girl Friday's sister and I did it all with exploding toothpicks and my trusty giant boomstick that Sun King Avad gave me many moons ago. I love this thing. I've felled many gaint beasts with this here boomstick and in spite of all my other fancy shmancy gear, this baby here never disappoints. The Coils don't give access to the ammo type. Each individual weapon has its set ammo types. So, a +X% Frost Coil won't add Frost ammo; it will improve the Frost damage on weapons that already have frost ammo. Another general difference between ZD and FW is that Blue Coils still remain useful even at high levels. They aren't that much weaker than the Purples. You don't lose much by using blues until you found the better version. I pretty much never sell coils and weaves because of this. I guess I could sell some now, since the game is fully complete, in terms of content. If I'm not using it by now, I'm less likely to start using it in the future.
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 0:49:54 GMT
So yesterday mostly did just the main quest in Burning Shores and it makes it a very short DLC but near the end of the day I didn't want to end up doing the last main mission when I knew I'd need to stop in 45 minutes so went big game hunting for parts. Killed Bileguts, Slaughter Spines, Thunderjaws and Dreadwings.
Left the game after having the get back in the good books with Seyka (not sure why Aloy needed to) and before the Water Wing flight Top Gun style.
Not sure what response I will take with Seyka this time. I spent a lot of time pondering who is the best romance option for Aloy last night and surprisingly the best fit were male wise Varl and Female wise Talanah. There are obvious SPOILER reasons one can't be but both would offer her personality wise something Aloy needs and that compliments Aloy's personality IMO.
No one else really fits the bill IMO.
Erend is just like a big Jock friend/brother and over time Aloy I think would get frustrated with him and unhappy.
Alva maybe a good choice but she says she has a partner already, she'd be a nice intellectual compliment and foil to Aloy and a bit of a balance of intellectual contemplation to Aloy's act first think later (in some situations) personality. They'd be good and close friends as well as partners I think.
Talanah have fairly complimentary personalities but Talanah is a bit more measured and considered than Aloy but they are both passionate and have similar interests.
Avad would IMO just be a bit creepy, it would be weird Aloy being married to The Sun King and whilst I think he would definitely love and respect Aloy I think he'd put her too much on a pedestal and be too overly affectionate for her liking.
I think Kotallo could work but he seems a bit older and maybe too mature for the age and time of life Aloy is at.
And that brings me to Seyka, the whole feeling I got yesterday reminded me of relationships I had late in High School/University. An instant spark of like meeting like but with slightly different perspectives and personalities that flame out after a year or two. I could see it working longer term as both of them mature but the being too alike just makes me think it wouldn't.
I think that is one of the shames with Varl being off the table early, I would have liked Aloy to make a case for that given there common history and understanding of each others cultures. But also that Varl really gets Aloy and would be such a solid, dependable partner for her.
It is a real disappointment that there are so few male and female options for Aloy of her own age or something near it TBH. I think that is the only reason Seyka makes sense given the alternatives and especially since the Talanah option didn't get offered in this game.
I probably missed people but that's enough for now.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 30, 2024 1:27:24 GMT
I still haven't figured out how to 'equip' certain ammo types with certain coils/buffs (frost, electricity, plasma etc). Do I use a Workbench for that? In spite of not having the best type of ammo abilities, I"ve just taken down Londra's overgrown Lizard and rescue my Girl Friday's sister and I did it all with exploding toothpicks and my trusty giant boomstick that Sun King Avad gave me many moons ago. I love this thing. I've felled many gaint beasts with this here boomstick and in spite of all my other fancy shmancy gear, this baby here never disappoints. The Coils don't give access to the ammo type. Each individual weapon has its set ammo types. So, a +X% Frost Coil won't add Frost ammo; it will improve the Frost damage on weapons that already have frost ammo. Another general difference between ZD and FW is that Blue Coils still remain useful even at high levels. They aren't that much weaker than the Purples. You don't lose much by using blues until you found the better version. I pretty much never sell coils and weaves because of this. I guess I could sell some now, since the game is fully complete, in terms of content. If I'm not using it by now, I'm less likely to start using it in the future. Thanks Zero
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 30, 2024 1:49:30 GMT
dazk, I think the high school crush vibe was exactly what they were going for with those two. Aloy finally met the first someone to whom she was instantly and strongly attracted. It doesn't mean it will necessarily last or become more. It's her first crush. I'm glad it took them this long to make romance much of a thing in the series. Given her age, background, and situation, I never felt romance had much of a place in the game. Now that she's learning how to interact normally with non-Rost humans, it's fine. I'd still be happy if she didn't bother with romance until the world is safe. She didn't rebuff Varl in HZD when he showed some interest. I thought they'd be a fun match when she matured. Of course, after she pushed everyone away, I was glad that he wasn't a simp and found a woman who appreciated him properly. I never could see Erend. Just... nah. She can check Avad for his "too soon" advances in HZD, which was cool. He handled things better at the beginning of HFW, and she looked flattered and intrigued, rather than uncomfortable, in my opinion. Whether she was receptive is up to the player, of course. I could potentially see her with Avad, someday, only if she could tie her life to Meridian for a time. I'm not sure she'd want to live in the city where she's known as The Saviour. Talanah seems to be straight. I know people will say, "She might be bisexual." That's true, I guess, but I've never detected the slightest hint of romantic vibes between them. It's okay for some characters to be straight, no matter how many fans on the internet want to wish them bi. 😆 I hope they don't alter Talanah as fan service. To me, Seyka makes as much sense as anyone, if she's a significant part of the next game. She doesn't need to be there physically, since she and Aloy can "long distance date" via Focus. I just need to see a reason to believe a relationship with anyone makes sense, Seyka or otherwise.
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 2:01:46 GMT
dazk , I think the high school crush vibe was exactly what they were going for with those two. Aloy finally met the first someone to whom she was instantly and strongly attracted. It doesn't mean it will necessarily last or become more. It's her first crush. I'm glad it took them this long to make romance much of a thing in the series. Given her age, background, and situation, I never felt romance had much of a place in the game. Now that she's learning how to interact normally with non-Rost humans, it's fine. I'd still be happy if she didn't bother with romance until the world is safe. She didn't rebuff Varl in HZD when he showed some interest. I thought they'd be a fun match when she matured. Of course, after she pushed everyone away, I was glad that he wasn't a simp and found a woman who appreciated him properly. I never could see Erend. Just... nah. She can check Avad for his "too soon" advances in HZD, which was cool. He handled things better at the beginning of HFW, and she looked flattered and intrigued, rather than uncomfortable, in my opinion. Whether she was receptive is up to the player, of course. I could potentially see her with Avad, someday, only if she could tie her life to Meridian for a time. I'm not sure she'd want to live in the city where she's known as The Saviour. Talanah seems to be straight. I know people will say, "She might be bisexual." That's true, I guess, but I've never detected the slightest hint of romantic vibes between them. It's okay for some characters to be straight, no matter how many fans on the internet want to wish them bi. 😆 I hope they don't alter Talanah as fan service. To me, Seyka makes as much sense as anyone, if she's a significant part of the next game. She doesn't need to be there physically, since she and Aloy can "long distance date" via Focus. I just need to see a reason to believe a relationship with anyone makes sense, Seyka or otherwise. I agree with all you say except the Talanah thing. I thought there was a hint of a flirt when she says it was good to spend time with you again but of course friends can say that as well. I really hoped at the end of Burning Shores that Seyka had been exiled and you could see her back at the base whatever choice you made.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 30, 2024 2:04:38 GMT
I can't recall whether I got the impression that Seyka stayed behind with Alva's detachment, or if she returned to Asia. You guys have finished it recently. Did they really imply either?
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Post by melbella on Apr 30, 2024 2:48:19 GMT
I can't recall whether I got the impression that Seyka stayed behind with Alva's detachment, or if she returned to Asia. You guys have finished it recently. Did they really imply either?
I didn't get the impression the southern group returned at all, only that they were going to reunite with the ones in SF area. At the end of the base game we see a clip of some of the SF Quen on ships, presumably going back to Asia, while Alva and others stayed behind. Post-DLC ending the LA camp was still bustling.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 30, 2024 2:52:00 GMT
I can't recall whether I got the impression that Seyka stayed behind with Alva's detachment, or if she returned to Asia. You guys have finished it recently. Did they really imply either?
I didn't get the impression the southern group returned at all, only that they were going to reunite with the ones in SF area. At the end of the base game we see a clip of some of the SF Quen on ships, presumably going back to Asia, while Alva and others stayed behind. Post-DLC ending the LA camp was still bustling.
I remembered all of this, and wasn't sure if I'd forgotten more. I definitely think the Admiral intends to return to the Empire, but I don't see why Seyka would go home to be oppressed and maybe punished. Given that she's been offered as a love interest, I guess it's safe to expect that she stayed with Alva's group.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 30, 2024 3:09:17 GMT
Yay, tonight, before my break, I still managed to reboot GAIA and establish my base of operations. I did guess that the Odyssey actually made it and that the dudes from earlier might be from the ship but I have to admit, I did not make the connection between the 8.6 ly distance and the signal transmitting for 17.2 years, though both numbers are mentioned in advance. Really clever narrative again, how they put these hints in, that you only kinda pick up afterwards (or at least I don't get them earlier). Anyway, I gues now things start to get ... Sirius.
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 4:50:20 GMT
I didn't get the impression the southern group returned at all, only that they were going to reunite with the ones in SF area. At the end of the base game we see a clip of some of the SF Quen on ships, presumably going back to Asia, while Alva and others stayed behind. Post-DLC ending the LA camp was still bustling.
I remembered all of this, and wasn't sure if I'd forgotten more. I definitely think the Admiral intends to return to the Empire, but I don't see why Seyka would go home to be oppressed and maybe punished. Given that she's been offered as a love interest, I guess it's safe to expect that she stayed with Alva's group. Yeah in that romance thing I think I mentioned I thought it was a bit weird Seyka did not turn up at the base at the End Game. Speaking of which I just finished that ridiculous Londra fight, that fight on the beach I manage to always end up in the wrong place to shoot the damn heatsink things!!!!! The rest whilst tiresome was better than last time as I knew what to shoot and do and the orange things were actually highlighted. I have during this fight hurt my bad thumb and aggravated the nerve in my neck which causes pain down my left arm, just not sure what it is about this game. My right thumb I think is it makes you aim so much and holding down RMB requires me to grip the mouse harder with my thumb. The neck thing may be tension.
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 4:51:33 GMT
Yay, tonight, before my break, I still managed to reboot GAIA and establish my base of operations. I did guess that the Odyssey actually made it and that the dudes from earlier might be from the ship but I have to admit, I did not make the connection between the 8.6 ly distance and the signal transmitting for 17.2 years, though both numbers are mentioned in advance. Really clever narrative again, how they put these hints in, that you only kinda pick up afterwards (or at least I don't get them earlier). Anyway, I gues now things start to get ... Sirius. Ha Ha, well done I don't think anyone has made that joke yet.
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 4:52:53 GMT
I can't recall whether I got the impression that Seyka stayed behind with Alva's detachment, or if she returned to Asia. You guys have finished it recently. Did they really imply either? I was literally wondering where the "empire" was and if it was Asia why are there so many Caucasians???
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Post by dazk on Apr 30, 2024 4:55:09 GMT
Finished the Main Quest of Burning Shores, there is a lot I could do but not much I think I can be bothered to do. There will be so much incomplete I am just not sure there is any point doing any more but will do something to distract me for the hour or so I have free.
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Post by dazk on May 1, 2024 0:10:30 GMT
So as mentioned yesterday finished the Burning Shores DLC main story yesterday and if you play it as a straight line it is pretty short except for the final quest which is longer than the rest of the main quest. Fortunately there are points you can stop, to have a coffee, have something to eat, go outside and water the garden etc. thanks to the auto saves and man I needed it. I'd have liked the final fight against The Horus to have been somehow separated in a coherent way, the whole lead up and that fight are just too long. For me personally the fight on the beach is just plain infuriating and I have absolutely no idea how it is meant to be fun but that's probably because I am not very good. Fortunately by this stage of the game I could probably fight ten Horus at the same time as I have so many hit points/health. With the over clocked health during to eating I did not even try to avoid damage most of the time. Seriously the fight trying to shoot the heat sinks again just made me want to quit the game, there is probably a pattern to it but I always ended up on the wrong side of the metal arm or after aiming and shooting the thing had retracted. This style of combat is not why I play RPG's. Perhaps one of the most frustrating things was the water element. Too avoid the lightning attacks I found I had to run a long way and often hen had to run a long way back or worse swim back across some water. At least it gave me a mental rest and a break for my fingers. The climb was not as bad this time up the leg but that middle peace with the spinning part, just why do I want to do that in the middle of a fight jumping and climbing sucks already. Then the three-part final fight, all of it together for me is JUST too long and again it is not a problem as I have a health bar of a gazillion points but it sure is annoying getting electrocuted, burnt, lasered and for Aloy to end up on her ass again and again. Mind you that was a recurring theme all game so probably should have been used to it. The best thing is the relief at it being over. Then had the final scene with the Admiral and Seyka and then the end scene with Seyka. Second time around I warmed more to Seyka and putting myself in the mindset I discussed earlier of Aloy and Seyka for that matter being so young I had np problem embracing the "heart" icon option. My one criticism is that over the course of the DLC the writing of the dialogue was poorly done with no real proper build up. The comments between the two and Aloy's angst were just felt unreal and forced in parts. Anyway enough on that. Returned to the base and discovered some scannable stuff I had missed in my last PT so that was cool and remembered to talk to Varl this time. Will potter some more at times but that is me for any committed playing of HZD FW. Pic's I'll just leave it with the Aloy Seyka stuff - Obviously Spoilers
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Post by Element Zero on May 1, 2024 1:22:10 GMT
I can't recall whether I got the impression that Seyka stayed behind with Alva's detachment, or if she returned to Asia. You guys have finished it recently. Did they really imply either? I was literally wondering where the "empire" was and if it was Asia why are there so many Caucasians??? 🤣 The Quen Empire on the continent Asia. I think they're in one of two Chinese river deltas, but that's just an assumption based upon knowledge of geography and what little Cradle data we have. They have no concept of present day ethnicities, of course, because Zero Dawn wisely mixed everyone together in the Cradle facilities.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 1, 2024 11:37:11 GMT
I was literally wondering where the "empire" was and if it was Asia why are there so many Caucasians??? 🤣 The Quen Empire on the continent Asia. I think they're in one of two Chinese river deltas, but that's just an assumption based upon knowledge of geography and what little Cradle data we have. They have no concept of present day ethnicities, of course, because Zero Dawn wisely mixed everyone together in the Cradle facilities. When I first saw Alva I thought mayb eeastren Russia than Asia perse as sh edoesn't look Asian a tall Seyka does I can see it in her eyes as Japanes ean dChines ehave moer wha tI' dcall slanted eyes. But as you sa yit looks like the Cradl efacilities jus tbundl4ed peopl etogethe rrather than worried abou tthei rrace or eethnicity. I am thinkin gof comin gbac kafter I'v egiven th eDragon's Dogma games a go. As I 'm kin do ftempted to pla ythe ME games an dfollowing up with Horizon atm after I've played Dragon's Dogma I ma ythrow in som Dragon Ag ein with Dragon's Dogma but don' tknow yet
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Post by Element Zero on May 2, 2024 1:39:01 GMT
🤣 The Quen Empire on the continent Asia. I think they're in one of two Chinese river deltas, but that's just an assumption based upon knowledge of geography and what little Cradle data we have. They have no concept of present day ethnicities, of course, because Zero Dawn wisely mixed everyone together in the Cradle facilities. When I first saw Alva I thought mayb eeastren Russia than Asia perse as sh edoesn't look Asian a tall Seyka does I can see it in her eyes as Japanes ean dChines ehave moer wha tI' dcall slanted eyes. But as you sa yit looks like the Cradl efacilities jus tbundl4ed peopl etogethe rrather than worried abou tthei rrace or eethnicity. I am thinkin gof comin gbac kafter I'v egiven th eDragon's Dogma games a go. As I 'm kin do ftempted to pla ythe ME games an dfollowing up with Horizon atm after I've played Dragon's Dogma I ma ythrow in som Dragon Ag ein with Dragon's Dogma but don' tknow yet Yeah, the Cradles explicitly mixed together all our many varieties. It was clear from the start in the Nora Sacred Lands. In those few, tiny villages, we had many different features and traits on display. I liked it immediately, and knew there'd probably be an in-game reason for it.
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Post by dazk on May 3, 2024 3:08:10 GMT
So didn't have my son to play Helldivers 2 with so jumped back into HZD FW to clean up side quest and did this by visiting towns/settlements. Also checked in on Erend at Dunhollow and Alva at Landfall. Did a couple and then got distracted farming resources for Weapon and Armour Upgrades as they were nearby and that's how the rest of my few hours played out. Took the Iriv's Downfall Sharpshot Bow for a spin and it was pretty good so it replaces my Legendary Grave Singers Lament. All my Weapons on the weapon wheel are Legendary and I think I have only one Legendary weapon a Blast Sling to finish upgrading. I also have some non-legendary armour to upgrade that I keep for the look. Element Zero do CRIT Chance Coils and CRIT Damage coils stack? Pic's Did the quest to find the raiders. Helped find this woman's dad, anyone know if you can get that armour she and others wear? Iriv's Downfall
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Post by Element Zero on May 3, 2024 19:49:54 GMT
dazk, Crit Chance increases the probability of landing a critical hit, while Crit Damage increases the damage of such hits. You can definitely use both on the same weapon. I use Crit coils on my Warrior Bows and Sharpshot Bows. Those outfits are basically the clothing beneath the two Lowland Tenakth armor sets. So, you sort of have them already. You just can't remove the armor from them. 😄
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Post by dazk on May 4, 2024 0:48:17 GMT
dazk , Crit Chance increases the probability of landing a critical hit, while Crit Damage increases the damage of such hits. You can definitely use both on the same weapon. I use Crit coils on my Warrior Bows and Sharpshot Bows. Those outfits are basically the clothing beneath the two Lowland Tenakth armor sets. So, you sort of have them already. You just can't remove the armor from them. 😄 My question was do they stack? So can you have two 15% CRIT CHANCE coils on a weapon for a 30% chance and same for damage coils? Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2024 0:59:55 GMT
dazk , Crit Chance increases the probability of landing a critical hit, while Crit Damage increases the damage of such hits. You can definitely use both on the same weapon. I use Crit coils on my Warrior Bows and Sharpshot Bows. Those outfits are basically the clothing beneath the two Lowland Tenakth armor sets. So, you sort of have them already. You just can't remove the armor from them. 😄 My question was do they stack? So can you have two 15% CRIT CHANCE coils on a weapon for a 30% chance and same for damage coils? Sorry if that wasn't clear. Yes, they're cumulative. In fact, one of my Warrior Bows has a 95% crit chance, or something nearly automatic. You can overdo it with some coils. For example, "Last Argument", the Legendary Spikethrower from Burning Shores, has Drill Spikes. I initially filled it with Knock Down Power coils. Later I realized that it didn't need so many to do its job reliably, and I swapped a couple for other things. It would be hard to overdo it with Crit Coils, of course. Your crit chance can't improve beyond 100%, and crazy Crit Damage is great as long as you're regularly landing crits. (Crits are another great reason to use a Valor Surge before releasing arrows.)
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Post by dazk on May 4, 2024 1:21:30 GMT
My question was do they stack? So can you have two 15% CRIT CHANCE coils on a weapon for a 30% chance and same for damage coils? Sorry if that wasn't clear. Yes, they're cumulative. In fact, one of my Warrior Bows has a 95% crit chance, or something nearly automatic. You can overdo it with some coils. For example, "Last Argument", the Legendary Spikethrower from Burning Shores, has Drill Spikes. I initially filled it with Knock Down Power coils. Later I realized that it didn't need so many to do its job reliably, and I swapped a couple for other things. It would be hard to overdo it with Crit Coils, of course. Your crit chance can't improve beyond 100%, and crazy Crit Damage is great as long as you're regularly landing crits. (Crits are another great reason to use a Valor Surge before releasing arrows.) I killed a Thunderjaw with one shot of Iriv's Downfall which IIRC has about 50% chance of a CRIT (base stat plus Coils) and 30 to 40% Crit Damage and using the Ranged Valor Surge yesterday. On Story of course.
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