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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2024 1:35:10 GMT
Yes, they're cumulative. In fact, one of my Warrior Bows has a 95% crit chance, or something nearly automatic. You can overdo it with some coils. For example, "Last Argument", the Legendary Spikethrower from Burning Shores, has Drill Spikes. I initially filled it with Knock Down Power coils. Later I realized that it didn't need so many to do its job reliably, and I swapped a couple for other things. It would be hard to overdo it with Crit Coils, of course. Your crit chance can't improve beyond 100%, and crazy Crit Damage is great as long as you're regularly landing crits. (Crits are another great reason to use a Valor Surge before releasing arrows.) I killed a Thunderjaw with one shot of Iriv's Downfall which IIRC has about 50% chance of a CRIT (base stat plus Coils) and 30 to 40% Crit Damage and using the Ranged Valor Surge yesterday. On Story of course. When the game first released, the Stealth Stalker Valor Surge buffed all damage from hiding at a much higher percentage. We could one-shot Scorchers, and two-shot the big guys on Very Hard. They soon reduced the buff to ranged damage provided by Stealth Stalker. There was another gimmick that involved being on a mount and using the Tenakth armor that buffs mounted damage. I don't know if that one still grants huge damage to start a fight. I try these things for fun, but don't use them regularly, particularly since I'm not hunting for upgrades these days. I knew all the tricks back then. 😄
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Post by dazk on May 4, 2024 2:19:48 GMT
So yesterday cleaned up more side quests at Plainsong, most were fun I especially like the Eagle Squad one with Jaxx. Talked to Zo and read a datapoint about her wanting to go to the Nora lands like she was going to with Varl. I really hope in the next game that Aloy does go back and visit with her. Investigated a disappearance and found out it was actually a murder, rescued a Hunter, helped a blinded warrior make his instrument. Zo and her message Eagle Squad Solved a murder mystery
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Post by dazk on May 4, 2024 2:23:48 GMT
Oh forgot that I also got the last achievement I will get unless I do Ultra Hard which I really do not see myself doing although I did have a think about it last night.
It was the achievement for getting all the Legendary Weapons, dyes and face paints. I had them but had not applied/bought them all.
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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2024 12:00:34 GMT
In regard to the Nora, I feel like Aloy would need a practical reason to go visit. Does she need tech or data from the old NORAD facilities? That would make sense. Visiting for nostalgia? That would never happen. She seems at best indifferent toward the Nora, and at times a bit resentful. She regularly makes comments like, "No thanks to them," or "Aloy Despite the Nora," or is reminded of being an Outcast.
It would be interesting to experience her return. She's their long-absent Anointed. She also has no time to waste on such nonsense. Bringing Zo with her to tell Varl's story would be cool.
That actually makes me wonder what Zo's role will be in the next game. She probably shouldn't be in immediate danger with a young child at home. Yes, the whole world is in danger, but that doesn’t mean that she needs to be casual about getting into dire situations.
EDIT: I love Ultra Hard. It's the only way to play, for me! Aloy's weapons evolved in this game, but she's still essentially shooting arrows at giant, armored machines. I want to feel that, as much as possible. She still ends up stomping everything, but at least the machines are a bit more alert and robust.
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Post by melbella on May 4, 2024 16:19:30 GMT
In regard to the Nora, I feel like Aloy would need a practical reason to go visit. Does she need tech or data from the old NORAD facilities? That would make sense. Visiting for nostalgia? That would never happen. She seems at best indifferent toward the Nora, and at times a bit resentful. She regularly makes comments like, "No thanks to them," or "Aloy Despite the Nora," or is reminded of being an Outcast. It would be interesting to experience her return. She's their long-absent Anointed. She also has no time to waste on such nonsense. Bringing Zo with her to tell Varl's story would be cool. That actually makes me wonder what Zo's role will be in the next game. She probably shouldn't be in immediate danger with a young child at home. Yes, the whole world is in danger, but that doesn’t mean that she needs to be casual about getting into dire situations. EDIT: I love Ultra Hard. It's the only way to play, for me! Aloy's weapons evolved in this game, but she's still essentially shooting arrows at giant, armored machines. I want to feel that, as much as possible. She still ends up stomping everything, but at least the machines are a bit more alert and robust.
I was wondering how much time will pass between the end of 2 and start of 3. I can see them fast-forwarding several years, depending on how fast Nemesis is traveling. How did the Zeniths get to Earth before it did? With the Zeniths now dead, what will be the point of Nemesis coming back to Earth? I also wonder at the feasibility of the Zeniths' plan to keep running and set up shop somewhere else. Seems like Nemesis would eventually track them down but maybe they were just hoping to gain time to find a way to defeat it.
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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2024 16:34:41 GMT
In regard to the Nora, I feel like Aloy would need a practical reason to go visit. Does she need tech or data from the old NORAD facilities? That would make sense. Visiting for nostalgia? That would never happen. She seems at best indifferent toward the Nora, and at times a bit resentful. She regularly makes comments like, "No thanks to them," or "Aloy Despite the Nora," or is reminded of being an Outcast. It would be interesting to experience her return. She's their long-absent Anointed. She also has no time to waste on such nonsense. Bringing Zo with her to tell Varl's story would be cool. That actually makes me wonder what Zo's role will be in the next game. She probably shouldn't be in immediate danger with a young child at home. Yes, the whole world is in danger, but that doesn’t mean that she needs to be casual about getting into dire situations. EDIT: I love Ultra Hard. It's the only way to play, for me! Aloy's weapons evolved in this game, but she's still essentially shooting arrows at giant, armored machines. I want to feel that, as much as possible. She still ends up stomping everything, but at least the machines are a bit more alert and robust.
I was wondering how much time will pass between the end of 2 and start of 3. I can see them fast-forwarding several years, depending on how fast Nemesis is traveling. How did the Zeniths get to Earth before it did? With the Zeniths now dead, what will be the point of Nemesis coming back to Earth? I also wonder at the feasibility of the Zeniths' plan to keep running and set up shop somewhere else. Seems like Nemesis would eventually track them down but maybe they were just hoping to gain time to find a way to defeat it.
All good questions. I guess NEMESIS (my spellcheck auto capitalizes 😄) took time to assemble a fleet or "body"? I also figured it would just follow them to their next destination. Any home they can find it can also find. I don't know why it would even bother with Earth. Sure, it's destroying all safe havens, but couldn't they just provide it data that proved the Zeniths are dead? We will probably descend further into video game plot logic the longer the story goes. I always ask questions the devs clearly didn't account for or cover, at least in the final release we get to play. Sometimes the initial story is pretty tightly written until stuff gets cut and more writers contribute. Hopefully, they will address all our questions in the next game. They've done pretty well, so far.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 4, 2024 19:15:47 GMT
In regard to the Nora, I feel like Aloy would need a practical reason to go visit. Does she need tech or data from the old NORAD facilities? That would make sense. Visiting for nostalgia? That would never happen. She seems at best indifferent toward the Nora, and at times a bit resentful. She regularly makes comments like, "No thanks to them," or "Aloy Despite the Nora," or is reminded of being an Outcast. It would be interesting to experience her return. She's their long-absent Anointed. She also has no time to waste on such nonsense. Bringing Zo with her to tell Varl's story would be cool. That actually makes me wonder what Zo's role will be in the next game. She probably shouldn't be in immediate danger with a young child at home. Yes, the whole world is in danger, but that doesn’t mean that she needs to be casual about getting into dire situations. EDIT: I love Ultra Hard. It's the only way to play, for me! Aloy's weapons evolved in this game, but she's still essentially shooting arrows at giant, armored machines. I want to feel that, as much as possible. She still ends up stomping everything, but at least the machines are a bit more alert and robust. I could see her showing Beta whershe grew up maybe as a kind of bonding with her sister excercise Mayb ethe 2 of them might eve njoin Zo on the trip bac t oNora land. Safety in numbres and all that. I d oagree comba tdefinitel yfel teveolved as I fel tsom eof th emachines in generalfelt easier t otak edown than in Zero Dawn and I don' thave as many issues taking out flying machines as I do in Zero Dawn and th eFire an dFrostclaw machines felt easie rtoo. I di dfind however there ewre a couple o fspots on the map where machines di dhave a tendenc yt ogroup togethe ran gan gup on me which mad etravelling through those areas tricky. But really tha twa sthe onl ytim eI ha dissues. Well tha tan dtha tannoying Horus fight a tthe end o fBurning Shores
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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2024 20:27:44 GMT
They definitely rebalanced some challenges. A lot of people hated the Glinthawks, so they made them less common. The Fireclaws and Frostclaws are certainly more reasonably balanced in Forbidden West. Plus, they aren't all "Daemonic"/Apex, at least until you kill enough of them.
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Post by dazk on May 5, 2024 1:11:48 GMT
melbella this was the same question I asked myself. "With the Zeniths now dead, what will be the point of Nemesis coming back to Earth? " There is no good reason, maybe they'll realise the solution is just to send a message to Nemesis saying don't waste your time coming to Earth just do a scan, "No Zeniths Here" Maybe Aloy, Beta and Sylens will build machine Zeniths put them on the ship and send it on a course to the Sun and Nemesis will follow it there?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 5, 2024 19:20:46 GMT
melbella this was the same question I asked myself. "With the Zeniths now dead, what will be the point of Nemesis coming back to Earth? " There is no good reason, maybe they'll realise the solution is just to send a message to Nemesis saying don't waste your time coming to Earth just do a scan, "No Zeniths Here" Maybe Aloy, Beta and Sylens will build machine Zeniths put them on the ship and send it on a course to the Sun and Nemesis will follow it there? Would nemesis believe them though I doubt it.
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After doing a lot of side stuff for a while, I finally made some progress with the main story now. After that first meeting with Tekotteh, when Aloy goes to Kotallo "I am just gonna take a quick look at that wall." I was already like "Oooh, you gonna break it, aren't you Aloy?" So I brought the mountain clan back in line, Hekkaro could have his tournament (well, more or less, shall we say) and I brought AETHER back to GAIA. Then followed the distress call and rescued Beta. Our Base is starting to fill up. Also, looks like we really kicked the Far Zenith dudes in the butt there. Without Beta they shouldn't have access to the ZD facilities anymore and on top of that she stole the second GAIA Kernel from them. Go us! Gotta say, Ashley Burch is doing a great job with the double (or rather triple if you could the Sobeck holos) role. Beta really feels very different from Aloy and I kinda like that the two don't seem to get along so well (Aloy to Varl after her first conversation woth Beta: "I think she might be regretting coming herer ... and I guess the feeling is mutual." ). Anyway, looks like things are taking shape. Off to the desert it is.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 13, 2024 18:14:41 GMT
For anyon einterested this just popped up on m yyoutub efeed and gives a small insight into how the ycame up wit hthe Horus fight in Burnin gShores.
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Post by dazk on May 14, 2024 0:51:52 GMT
For anyon einterested this just popped up on m yyoutub efeed and gives a small insight into how the ycame up wit hthe Horus fight in Burnin gShores. Well whoever it was can stick that "Epic Fight" up there Hor arseus as far as I am concerned. Did it twice, never ever again. I tell you what I just watched the video and I can say for me the clarity and the visibility for example of the Heat Sinks you have to shoot were 100+ times clearer than both times I fought it in there gameplay video and they stayed available to shoot a lot longer. My fights were mired in poor visibility, darkness, rain, dirt and water sprayed around etc. and the legs didn't ever appear to stay still that long. Be interested in what other people experienced.
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Post by Element Zero on May 14, 2024 2:12:43 GMT
dazk, I didn't have any trouble with the Horus fight. Which part was problematic, the battle outside or inside the Horus?
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Post by dazk on May 14, 2024 2:31:24 GMT
dazk , I didn't have any trouble with the Horus fight. Which part was problematic, the battle outside or inside the Horus? Mainly outside on the beach, it was definitely easier second time around knowing what was coming and what you had to do. But the main problem for me was the whole process from the start to the end was a huge time sink and as stated the gameplay video they show shows representations of clarity of targets like the heat sinks that was not the case for me. The climbing of the leg stuff in the video is clear as, in my game play it was mired with blowing sand, rain, darkness and poor visual clarity which is not in the gameplay video. This may have been due to unlucky weather on my part but it happened very similarly both times I did it. Also it was just so unexpected the first time, the fight was like nothing previously encountered in the base game. If you watch the video the Heat Sinks are bright and clearly visible and quite large, my experience was they were half the size at most and dull to the point of being VERY hard to see especially due to the weather and other effects. The part about Seyka, I had very little idea she was even involved other than her audio, I think I had a visual of her once.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 14, 2024 11:04:53 GMT
dazk , I didn't have any trouble with the Horus fight. Which part was problematic, the battle outside or inside the Horus? Mainly outside on the beach, it was definitely easier second time around knowing what was coming and what you had to do. But the main problem for me was the whole process from the start to the end was a huge time sink and as stated the gameplay video they show shows representations of clarity of targets like the heat sinks that was not the case for me. The climbing of the leg stuff in the video is clear as, in my game play it was mired with blowing sand, rain, darkness and poor visual clarity which is not in the gameplay video. This may have been due to unlucky weather on my part but it happened very similarly both times I did it. Also it was just so unexpected the first time, the fight was like nothing previously encountered in the base game. If you watch the video the Heat Sinks are bright and clearly visible and quite large, my experience was they were half the size at most and dull to the point of being VERY hard to see especially due to the weather and other effects. The part about Seyka, I had very little idea she was even involved other than her audio, I think I had a visual of her once. Yeah It was probably jus tbad luck a sI didn' t hav eweathe rissues just figurin gou twhre t og oan dwha tto d owa sm yproblem. I tmigh thave been a different matter had it been nigh tor i twas raining but I got luck ythere.
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Got Poseidon yesterday. Finally, I got the breathing mask, thank god. It was a cool mission. Under water levels are shitty in a lot of games and I will not say that I never lost my bearings here but I did like it. And I think giving Las Vegas some of its old splender back is the first time we really get a glimpse of what the old world might have looked like in its glory days before 2065. Also really liked the three stooges. But I pretty much always like the Oseram, they are just fun all around. Haven't brought Poseidon back to Gaia yet though. I want to do Talanah's mission first (as Aloy suggests when she comes out of that Vegas mission) and it was too late to start that one last night. I do wonder though: So, Vegas seems to have all the water one could ask for (hell, when Aloy drains the strip, where the heck does it even go?). meanwhile, the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennaklth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad i lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. I do wonder how long those three shownmen will actually stay in charge in LV, especially if they want to advertise it to potential tourists, as they state at the end of the quest. Wouldn't the Tennakth come and take that water (espacially given their warrior's ways and general disrespect for the Oseram in their lands)? Aloy does hint that she should check back with them later, so I wonder if there will be a follow-up quest, addressing that one. I could see Aloy sorting that out, basically establishing some sort of cooperation or trade between the two factions.
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Post by Element Zero on May 15, 2024 0:55:02 GMT
I finally got around to watching GG's video regarding the epic DLC battle. It was cool. It made me want to play it again. My last HFW playthrough, I stopped early in the Burning Shores, so I can pick up right in that story arc.
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Post by dazk on May 15, 2024 2:32:53 GMT
Element Zero did you ever prioritise just the main missions and then not get this mission that AnDromedary mentions? "the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennakth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad I lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. " When I did NG+ and prioritised the main stuff at some point it removes that mission where you have to sort the leadership out between the two rivals if I am thinking of the right one. Might dip into HZD FW and check again as maybe I just never visited it but in cleaning up the side quests after I never saw a marker for it. I am also hankering to play again anyway. Re the video, was your experience with the Horus fight like mine with darkness, bad weather and hard to see Heat Sinks or clear skies etc?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 15, 2024 12:01:33 GMT
Element Zero did you ever prioritise just the main missions and then not get this mission that AnDromedary mentions? "the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennakth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad I lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. " When I did NG+ and prioritised the main stuff at some point it removes that mission where you have to sort the leadership out between the two rivals if I am thinking of the right one. Might dip into HZD FW and check again as maybe I just never visited it but in cleaning up the side quests after I never saw a marker for it. I am also hankering to play again anyway. Re the video, was your experience with the Horus fight like mine with darkness, bad weather and hard to see Heat Sinks or clear skies etc? Yeah I'm startin gt oge tan itc hto com ebac kbu tgoing t owai tuntil I pla yME again. But righ tnow I wantt ofinish som ethings on my sports games and finish DAI. After that it'll b egiv eDragon's Dogma a go s ocoul dstil be a while ye tbefore I rejoin our redheaded machine riding goddess. It mainly depends on how long i ttakes m et od oal l those thing sand how much I allow the Topspin game to distract me.
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Post by Element Zero on May 15, 2024 21:55:39 GMT
Element Zero did you ever prioritise just the main missions and then not get this mission that AnDromedary mentions? "the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennakth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad I lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. " When I did NG+ and prioritised the main stuff at some point it removes that mission where you have to sort the leadership out between the two rivals if I am thinking of the right one. Might dip into HZD FW and check again as maybe I just never visited it but in cleaning up the side quests after I never saw a marker for it. I am also hankering to play again anyway. Re the video, was your experience with the Horus fight like mine with darkness, bad weather and hard to see Heat Sinks or clear skies etc? I always do 100% playthroughs, and Arrowhand os the first settlement we encounter in the West. As to why the water shortage was so bad, I think the questline explains it. The water in the ruins of Vegas is all contained within Stanley's irrigation system and not readily available. I think it's also supposed to be much further from the Tenakth settlements than it feels in-game. Distances are heavily abstracted. Would the Tenakth take note of Hidden Ember? Definitely. I think the civil war is probably the only reason they haven't done anything about it. I also think Chief Hekarro would tell them to observe and not attack. I don't think attacking all outsiders is really his preference. Hidden Ember should be safe.
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Post by dazk on May 16, 2024 0:54:35 GMT
Element Zero did you ever prioritise just the main missions and then not get this mission that AnDromedary mentions? "the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennakth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad I lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. " When I did NG+ and prioritised the main stuff at some point it removes that mission where you have to sort the leadership out between the two rivals if I am thinking of the right one. Might dip into HZD FW and check again as maybe I just never visited it but in cleaning up the side quests after I never saw a marker for it. I am also hankering to play again anyway. Re the video, was your experience with the Horus fight like mine with darkness, bad weather and hard to see Heat Sinks or clear skies etc? I always do 100% playthroughs, and Arrowhand os the first settlement we encounter in the West. As to why the water shortage was so bad, I think the questline explains it. The water in the ruins of Vegas is all contained within Stanley's irrigation system and not readily available. I think it's also supposed to be much further from the Tenakth settlements than it feels in-game. Distances are heavily abstracted. Would the Tenakth take note of Hidden Ember? Definitely. I think the civil war is probably the only reason they haven't done anything about it. I also think Chief Hekarro would tell them to observe and not attack. I don't think attacking all outsiders is really his preference. Hidden Ember should be safe. I thought their water supply had been sabotaged.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 16, 2024 3:59:21 GMT
Element Zero did you ever prioritise just the main missions and then not get this mission that AnDromedary mentions? "the village of Arrowhead, just a little bit to the north and the desert clan of the Tennakth in general are suffering from a severe water shortage, which got so bad I lead to rationing and then to outright rebellion. " When I did NG+ and prioritised the main stuff at some point it removes that mission where you have to sort the leadership out between the two rivals if I am thinking of the right one. Might dip into HZD FW and check again as maybe I just never visited it but in cleaning up the side quests after I never saw a marker for it. I am also hankering to play again anyway. Re the video, was your experience with the Horus fight like mine with darkness, bad weather and hard to see Heat Sinks or clear skies etc? I always do 100% playthroughs, and Arrowhand os the first settlement we encounter in the West. As to why the water shortage was so bad, I think the questline explains it. The water in the ruins of Vegas is all contained within Stanley's irrigation system and not readily available. I think it's also supposed to be much further from the Tenakth settlements than it feels in-game. Distances are heavily abstracted. Would the Tenakth take note of Hidden Ember? Definitely. I think the civil war is probably the only reason they haven't done anything about it. I also think Chief Hekarro would tell them to observe and not attack. I don't think attacking all outsiders is really his preference. Hidden Ember should be safe. I haven't done the follow-up quests to the Poseidon mission yet, so not sure if any of those deal with this issue. But the tennakth scout, who gives you rumors just west of our base just told Aloy that there are whispers about a new place with strange lights in the far desert. When Aloy leaves her after this conversation, she actually says to herself something like "Oh, I hope the Tennakth are not getting too curious about the showmen's place." So they definitely already got wind of it. Just a matter of time until that situation escalates, I'd say.
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Post by dazk on May 16, 2024 4:30:24 GMT
I always do 100% playthroughs, and Arrowhand os the first settlement we encounter in the West. As to why the water shortage was so bad, I think the questline explains it. The water in the ruins of Vegas is all contained within Stanley's irrigation system and not readily available. I think it's also supposed to be much further from the Tenakth settlements than it feels in-game. Distances are heavily abstracted. Would the Tenakth take note of Hidden Ember? Definitely. I think the civil war is probably the only reason they haven't done anything about it. I also think Chief Hekarro would tell them to observe and not attack. I don't think attacking all outsiders is really his preference. Hidden Ember should be safe. I haven't done the follow-up quests to the Poseidon mission yet, so not sure if any of those deal with this issue. But the tennakth scout, who gives you rumors just west of our base just told Aloy that there are whispers about a new place with strange lights in the far desert. When Aloy leaves her after this conversation, she actually says to herself something like "Oh, I hope the Tennakth are not getting too curious about the showmen's place." So they definitely already got wind of it. Just a matter of time until that situation escalates, I'd say. So spoiler but I have no memory of any direct interactions or altercations between the Tenakth and Morlund and his crew etc. in Las Vegas (Dunhollow I think it's called) .
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Post by Element Zero on May 17, 2024 0:52:27 GMT
I always do 100% playthroughs, and Arrowhand os the first settlement we encounter in the West. As to why the water shortage was so bad, I think the questline explains it. The water in the ruins of Vegas is all contained within Stanley's irrigation system and not readily available. I think it's also supposed to be much further from the Tenakth settlements than it feels in-game. Distances are heavily abstracted. Would the Tenakth take note of Hidden Ember? Definitely. I think the civil war is probably the only reason they haven't done anything about it. I also think Chief Hekarro would tell them to observe and not attack. I don't think attacking all outsiders is really his preference. Hidden Ember should be safe. I haven't done the follow-up quests to the Poseidon mission yet, so not sure if any of those deal with this issue. But the tennakth scout, who gives you rumors just west of our base just told Aloy that there are whispers about a new place with strange lights in the far desert. When Aloy leaves her after this conversation, she actually says to herself something like "Oh, I hope the Tennakth are not getting too curious about the showmen's place." So they definitely already got wind of it. Just a matter of time until that situation escalates, I'd say. I'm withholding information and opinions because I know you're still playing. Your concerns for the Oseram are similar to my own thoughts at that point in the game.
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