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Post by MeadKnight on Jul 22, 2024 20:19:05 GMT
Bellara is really growing on me. She seems like a kindred spirit to my Inquisitor, being interested in uncovering the truths about the ancient Elvhen. She even uses a magic bow (my Inquisitor was a Tempest archer, so, similar )
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Post by theascendent on Jul 22, 2024 21:59:28 GMT
Honestly, Bellara and the Veil Jumpers are selling me an Elf Rook for my first playthrough.
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Post by Syv on Jul 23, 2024 4:37:20 GMT
Why did they decide to give her such a goofy face. It's the first asian character, I think ? You could't make some efforts ? I'd be mad if I was asian to be honest. Try your best the first time, I don't know. That reminds me of when I was adolescent, very often annoyed. Never any effort to make black female characters attractive when they dared to finally create one while the others were attractives. Beyond the annoying attitude, they always had to look like " I'm an independent and strong woman that needs no men ", a bizarre feminist cliche that kept going but that never was true in real life , as if they were never concerned by the wish to be loved, purchased and seduced by men too, never a single one that was feminine and attractive. Never understood where this bizarre trend came from. I'm still annoyed when I'm seeing the fortnite or overwatch like games nowadays, where female black character look almost all the time very bad with ugly design, muscular and manly bodies, weird clothes, bizarre proportions probably supposed to click with the " feminist twitter like modern audience , yeaaaah you go girl. " But at least I'm certain Bellara won't be an afterthought with the writting. I'm not sure I will romance her, there isn't really anything with her that appeals to me. I'd be happy to be proven wrong however once playing the game.
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Post by jediguardian on Jul 23, 2024 5:59:26 GMT
From Article, her ability is interesting. But I just don't like her face. It's too comedic in my opinion. I hope that is just one part of her character and marketing team choose that part to show us. Maybe my expectation is too high because I am Asian.
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This look is good, I hope this is her normal facical expression.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 23, 2024 6:10:47 GMT
I hope she gives us interesting insight into the Evanuris that differs from what Solas thinks of them.
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Post by MeadKnight on Jul 23, 2024 7:15:53 GMT
I think her face looks fine...?
What about it is throwing y'all off? 🤨
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 23, 2024 7:21:17 GMT
Honestly, Bellara and the Veil Jumpers are selling me an Elf Rook for my first playthrough. I always play elf first run, it's my thing (except DA2 of course), but which sex depends on who I might be interested in romancing first run. I went in blind for DAO, so played a male elf. With DAI as Solas was restricted to female elves, I went with a female Lavellan first run. I really wanted to play a male elf first run with DAV and the latest article makes me think that finally my male elf will be able to romance a female elf who actually is a good fit character wise too (even if Sera hadn't been a lesbian I would never have romanced her). Bellara sounds a bit like I originally imagined Solas was going to be and, hopefully, if I ask her where she learned something, she will not reply "in the Fade". Now I just have to decide my background. At present I am learning towards Shadow Dragon, which I hope means they have geared the backstory more towards a city elf, which would be a nice contrast to the Dalish elf companions. The only drawback is that I intend playing a mage but they say that if you like being on the front line she is a good support with her bow and healing magic. I'm looking to play a Spellblade at present so that would fit. It is possible I could have an all elf line up with Davrin and Assan providing the melee support up front whilst Bellara supports us from the rear.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 23, 2024 8:41:54 GMT
Why did they decide to give her such a goofy face. It's the first asian character, I think ? You could't make some efforts ? I'd be mad if I was asian to be honest. Try your best the first time, I don't know. That reminds me of when I was adolescent, very often annoyed. Never any effort to make black female characters attractive when they dared to finally create one while the others were attractives. Beyond the annoying attitude, they always had to look like " I'm an independent and strong woman that needs no men ", a bizarre feminist cliche that kept going but that never was true in real life , as if they were never concerned by the wish to be loved, purchased and seduced by men too, never a single one that was feminine and attractive. Never understood where this bizarre trend came from. I'm still annoyed when I'm seeing the fortnite or overwatch like games nowadays, where female black character look almost all the time very bad with ugly design, muscular and manly bodies, weird clothes, bizarre proportions probably supposed to click with the " feminist twitter like modern audience , yeaaaah you go girl. " But at least I'm certain Bellara won't be an afterthought with the writting. I'm not sure I will romance her, there isn't really anything with her that appeals to me. I'd be happy to be proven wrong however once playing the game. As a woman myself i have to ask you: What did you mean? goofy face? What is a good asian character look like in your opinion? Human beeings are different and i think Bellara looks beautiful in her way. Not every character need to be for people to get horny. One thing i hate back in the days in JRPGs: The woman looks like Sex dolls.
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Post by necrowaif on Jul 23, 2024 8:45:24 GMT
Yeah, her features are definitely invoking the Uncanny Valley effect. It’s hard to say what’s wrong, but something is off.
I have seen pictures of her voice actress, who Bellara is clearly modelled off of, and she is pretty. But adding elven ears and a goofy beehive hairdo is not doing her any favours.
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Post by Liepsnele on Jul 23, 2024 8:49:23 GMT
I think she looks fine. All characters faces remind me of The Sims 4 a lot though.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 23, 2024 8:55:45 GMT
Maybe my expection is too high becasue I am Asian. I think she is an asian girl with west behavior. And that could be the problem you may have? I don't know. Because i see parts of her character in people i know. As far as i know, it is a way for the psyche to survive bad events and not go crazy. They compensate things by becoming even more "happier". I don't have a good word for that.
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Post by Reznore on Jul 23, 2024 8:58:12 GMT
Bellara sounds ok, like some kind of Merrill who managed to actually find something worthwhile. But her gauntlet is too cool. She has a bow, she can slow time. Yes time magic. I'm not sure I want to think about it. The problem I have is there's this companion who has access to much cooler stuff than Rook. I want that gauntlet. I don't want a stupid staff or stupid magical daggers.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Jul 23, 2024 9:07:15 GMT
The only thing that makes me wonder whether I'll enjoy this character is the adjective "quirky" I saw in the GI article (the trailer didn't help either). It's not my go-to personality type, but I can imagine one of my later Rooks getting on splendidly well with her.
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Post by jediguardian on Jul 23, 2024 9:14:02 GMT
Maybe my expection is too high becasue I am Asian. I think she is an asian girl with west behavior. And that could be the problem you may have? I don't know. Because i see parts of her character in people i know. As far as i know, it is a way for the psyche to survive bad events and not go crazy. They compensate things by becoming even more "happier". I don't have a good word for that.
I am not a fan of comedic character. The way trailer present her lead me to feel that way. Especially when she smile with teeth. And her ear is too big compare to her little face. I don't feel that with Solas, Merill, Fenris or Zevran
This is purely my personal taste. About appearance
I hope I will like her as person. I want all Mage in my team.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 23, 2024 9:21:50 GMT
But adding elven ears and a goofy beehive hairdo is not doing her any favours. I think the ears are probably the problem. They didn't really have to stick out that much either side just because they are pointed elf ears. It accentuates the fullness of her face and even the fact she has the beehive hairstyle. If you block out the ears you'll see what I mean. Ears do not normally stick out like that, unless you are Dobby, who is a completely different type of elf. I certainly won't be doing that with my PC if it can be avoided. For reference, here are some of our previous companions and Briala. May be Sera's ears stuck out like that but the hair covering meant it wasn't obvious but even the ears on bald Solas don't seem to stick out that far.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 23, 2024 9:35:15 GMT
From Article, her ability is interesting. But I just don't like her face. It's too comedic in my opinion. I hope that is just one part of her character and marketing team choose that part to show us. Maybe my expectation is too high because I am Asian.
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This look is good, I hope this is her normal facical expression.
Some chars do look cartoonish.... a bit Punkish style perhaps?
You'd think that in creating Bellara, Bio considered the visual appeal and uniqueness of the character. The latter is there but the former.... meh. I'm guessing Bio not only hates writers but also good looking characters.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 23, 2024 9:44:18 GMT
It's hard to say. Her design looks somewhat like a de-aged elderly person. Who knows though, maybe that's a part of her lore?
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 23, 2024 9:44:55 GMT
Why did they decide to give her such a goofy face. It's the first asian character, I think ? You could't make some efforts ? I'd be mad if I was asian to be honest. Try your best the first time, I don't know. That reminds me of when I was adolescent, very often annoyed. Never any effort to make black female characters attractive when they dared to finally create one while the others were attractives. Beyond the annoying attitude, they always had to look like " I'm an independent and strong woman that needs no men ", a bizarre feminist cliche that kept going but that never was true in real life , as if they were never concerned by the wish to be loved, purchased and seduced by men too, never a single one that was feminine and attractive. Never understood where this bizarre trend came from. I'm still annoyed when I'm seeing the fortnite or overwatch like games nowadays, where female black character look almost all the time very bad with ugly design, muscular and manly bodies, weird clothes, bizarre proportions probably supposed to click with the " feminist twitter like modern audience , yeaaaah you go girl. " But at least I'm certain Bellara won't be an afterthought with the writting. I'm not sure I will romance her, there isn't really anything with her that appeals to me. I'd be happy to be proven wrong however once playing the game. As a woman myself i have to ask you: What did you mean? goofy face? What is a good asian character look like in your opinion? Human beeings are different and i think Bellara looks beautiful in her way. Not every character need to be for people to get horny. One thing i hate back in the days in JRPGs: The woman looks like Sex dolls.
If you ever watched tiktok's Chiana Street Fashions you'll see some exceptional female beauties. I don't consider them sex dolls at all. Bellara's face is distorted somewhat and I think it's because originally Bio was thinking Punk. Certainly the first trailer we saw elicited a strong negative reaction. Put another way, if this game was marketed as a punkish style RPG, no one would have thought twice about the looks.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 23, 2024 9:50:14 GMT
I think her face looks fine...? What about it is throwing y'all off? 🤨
cartoon face.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 23, 2024 9:57:18 GMT
It's hard to say. Her design looks somewhat like a de-aged elderly person. Who knows though, maybe that's a part of her lore?
Regardless. Coming from DA:I that face is off.... look at Sera.
Granted the artists/writers/Crative Director wants to have a unique character. BUT .... no need to create another Cyrano de Bergerac. If the CC was able to tweak our "Magnificent Seven", we'd be happier. I would be.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 23, 2024 11:01:45 GMT
I can see the uncanny valley complaints in the first picture. She doesn’t focus properly on the gauntlet, and it’s the focal point of the piece, which makes her look cross-eyed. The second pic jediguardian shared seems fine, though. I’d certainly have preferred her design to Fenris if you showed me both without context.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 23, 2024 11:36:02 GMT
As a woman myself i have to ask you: What did you mean? goofy face? What is a good asian character look like in your opinion? Human beeings are different and i think Bellara looks beautiful in her way. Not every character need to be for people to get horny. One thing i hate back in the days in JRPGs: The woman looks like Sex dolls.
If you ever watched tiktok's Chiana Street Fashions you'll see some exceptional female beauties. I don't consider them sex dolls at all. Bellara's face is distorted somewhat and I think it's because originally Bio was thinking Punk. Certainly the first trailer we saw elicited a strong negative reaction. Put another way, if this game was marketed as a punkish style RPG, no one would have thought twice about the looks.
I have looked it up. And my opinion is Bellara with open hair could join them. Nothing from Bellara says Punk to me.
I see the Punk in Tevinter, but Tevinter isn't the whole game.
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Post by celestielf on Jul 23, 2024 14:58:30 GMT
Been giggling over the nitpicks and reading stuff into her appearance (like she's an independent woman who doesn't need a man to be happy? Idk what about her face says that, but good for her I guess?).
I agree that the ears sticking out to the side rather than being alongside her head looks odd though. Maybe it's to show off the (suspiciously Executor symbol) earrings, but it is different from other elf ears and I concede it's a more cartoonish look.
I think what I like best about Bellara's appearance is her eyes. They're large and expressive and a pretty shape.
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Post by roselavellan on Jul 23, 2024 15:42:00 GMT
Her appearance does look a little cartoonish, but then again, so do most of our companions. I love that they gave her a fairly realistic look, cartoony exaggerations aside. I would have been horrified if they did the usual "over-orientalisation" or over-sexualisation that Asian women in anime/gaming are subjected to. I don't know about her hair, though, it really doesn't look practical for adventuring.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 23, 2024 18:04:31 GMT
I don't know about her hair, though, it really doesn't look practical for adventuring. It's probably better than having it flowing free and getting caught in things. It would be nice if her default look at the Lighthouse was with her hair down but that is probably too much to hope for. I think she is pretty despite the ears. It will be interesting to see which part of Thedas they say she comes from. Having an oriental look does distinguish her from being just another human with pointy ears, like down south, and she does have different vallaslin as well. It will be amusing if she does turn out to be from across the sea (to the east).
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