Lucanis Dellamorte - Official Companion Thread [Spoilers]

ILLARIO IS IN THIS! I DIDN'T KNOW! I'M SO HAPPY AND EXCITED ALL MY ANTIVAN FAVES ARE IN VEILGUARD!

There is precious little we know about Fen'Harel, for they say he did not care for our people. Elgar'nan and Mythal created the world as we know it, Andruil taught us the Ways of the Hunter, Sylaise and June gave us fire and crafting, but Fen'Harel kept to himself and plotted the betrayal of all the gods. And after the destruction of Arlathan, when the gods could no longer hear our prayers, it is said that Fen'Harel spent centuries in a far corner of the earth, giggling madly and hugging himself in glee.

The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, There is precious little we know about Fen'Harel, for they say he did not care for our people. Elgar'nan and Mythal created the world as we know it, Andruil taught us the Ways of the Hunter, Sylaise and June gave us fire and crafting, but Fen'Harel kept to himself and plotted the betrayal of all the gods. And after the destruction of Arlathan, when the gods could no longer hear our prayers, it is said that Fen'Harel spent centuries in a far corner of the earth, giggling madly and hugging himself in glee.

The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. In ancient times, only Fen'Harel could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones, for although he is kin to the gods of the People, the Forgotten Ones knew of his cunning ways, and saw him as one of their own.

And that is how Fen'Harel tricked them. Our gods saw him as a brother, and they trusted him when he said that they must keep to the heavens while he arranged a truce. And the Forgotten Ones trusted him also when he said he would arrange for the defeat of our gods, if only the Forgotten Ones would return to the abyss for a time. They trusted Fen'Harel, and they were all of them betrayed. And Fen'Harel sealed them away so they could never again walk among the People.

—From The Tale of Fen'Harel's Triumph, as told by Gisharel, Keeper of the Ralaferin clan of the Dalish elves.

So yes, one of the Forgotten Ones name apparently translates into 'Spite'. WHich is also the name of the demon which is possessing Lucanis. So this puts in mind that like the Evanuris maybe there is a connection between the Forgotten Ones and spirits/ demons as well, but then also if the Forgotten One is a 'Spite Demon' it also has implications for the passenger travelling around in Lucanis as being a very powerful demon, and also has potential implications for Solas's relationship with Lucanis/ Spite given that this would be related to one of the Evanuris's enemies.

I have a feeling Illario betrayed Lucanis. Caterina had suspicions he was betrayed in order to be captured but shared that with no one. Illario stays behind when Rook goes looking for Lucanis, and when the team gets back, Caterina is (presumably) murdered by the Venatori.

Also, let's not forget Illario's wail in the Wake, he was described as actor repeating the same lines over and over again.

Franky, there are so many clues, it's practically spelled out that Illario (un)willingly betrayed Lucanis. I would be happy if that is not the case however, and that the situation would turn out to be more complicated than that.

Viago still calls himself the 5th Talon. Now he was 5th Talon in Eight Little Talons but even if Caterina didn't destroy the entire House Cortez as Viago predicted she would, they would have lost rank as a result of Emil's treachery. In fact, I would see Caterina stipulating this as a condition of sparing them her wrath. Thus, Viago would automatically move up to 4th Talon as a result.

Then with the 2nd and 3rd Talons having been murdered, possibly without nominating a replacement, whilst their houses sorted out the succession, technically Viago might have been promoted to 2nd Talon because of his seniority in the Crows. To be honest, I never really understood why Caterina's successor would automatically become 1st Talon but I assume that House Dellamorte must be so powerful that this is what maintains their position.

So, if Viago is still only 5th Talon, then losing Lucanis must have weakened Caterina's position more than she cared to admit because she had to leave House Kortez unpunished.

After selecting "good" option:
"She doesn't want to hurt you. How rare. Everyone else does!"

Very intriguing. It's like having a window into his inner thoughts, fears, insecurities. The contrast between poised and collected outershel, how Lucanis presents himself to others, and Spite, that doesn't hesitate to spill the tea. I dig it!

Oh, I wonder that is the spirit version of spite. If this feeling is corrupted form, it can imply how Lucanis story arc could evolve.

Oh, absolutely! It also adds up to replayability. I disliked how Josephine romance was so obviously male-coded.