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Post by roselavellan on Nov 2, 2024 7:12:09 GMT
I hadn't planned to romance Lucanis, but he's delightful. I like his calm demeanour and dry humour quite a lot, and have already found myself flirting with him. Emmrich better hurry up or my Rook will be taken by the time she meets him.
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Post by melbella on Nov 3, 2024 0:34:33 GMT
I stopped reading the thread to avoid more spoilers pre-launch and probably won't go back through it until after my first PT. Planning to romance him in this first game and I have to say, after the Coffee With the Crows quest Illario is looking very guilty when it comes to who gave up Lucanis for capture and for killing Caterina after finding out Lucanis wasn't actually dead after all.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 3, 2024 14:19:49 GMT
I've been watching the Lucanis/Crow personal quest and to my mind it is definitely one of the better parts of the game. Mary Kirby was still on form and it really was a last hurrah from her. Next bit isn't really that spoilery but I'll use the tag just in case. Only bit I don't get was the dumpster fire comment about the romance. I think she was having a bit of fun with that. Unless there is more to come in the romance that I don't know about because it had only really just got going at the end of the clip I saw. The sex scene was yet to come. However, I've seen three of those so far with other companions and all of them are very discrete and fade to black. Also, from what I've seen of him Spite seems a nice enough demon. I could see why he was a bit upset with Lucanis and he seemed to be as much a victim of Zara as Lucanis was. After all, he was forced to bond with him. Discovered the reason Lucanis really drinks a lot of coffee. However, by the end of the Crow quest they appear to have sorted out their differences. To be honest Justice was way big a problem for Anders or was it vice versa?
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Post by Liepsnele on Nov 3, 2024 21:08:17 GMT
Really spoiler-y question about Lucanis romance and its progression I just read that Lucanis romance is very barebones, even when the romance is locked it. That it feels as if you're just buddies who flirt from time to time.
If unromanced, he gets together with Neve and they share more content that Rook and Lucanis. It seems the only kiss you have with him is at the end of Act 3, other than that there is nothing in the whole game.
Could someone confirm whether it's true or not without spoiling much? I'm still in Act 1 and if Lucanis romance is really that lacking, I'll just go with Davrin.
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Post by Iddy on Nov 3, 2024 21:26:11 GMT
So... does this romance have a happy ending?
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2024 11:08:05 GMT
Really spoiler-y question about Lucanis romance and its progression I just read that Lucanis romance is very barebones, even when the romance is locked it. That it feels as if you're just buddies who flirt from time to time.
If unromanced, he gets together with Neve and they share more content that Rook and Lucanis. It seems the only kiss you have with him is at the end of Act 3, other than that there is nothing in the whole game.
Could someone confirm whether it's true or not without spoiling much? I'm still in Act 1 and if Lucanis romance is really that lacking, I'll just go with Davrin. Oh, perhaps that is why I couldn't find a sex scene then. I watched a video that claimed to show his entire character arc, at least up until the end of the Crow personal quest and it was very chaste but sweet in a way. Davrin looked a really good romance and of course you also get Assan as a bonus. I wonder if he ends up with anyone else if you don't romance him? Bellara may be? Emmrich teams up with Strife of all people if he isn't romanced and we already knew about Taash and Harding. I liked the fact that it is Neve he gets together with but it would be disappointing if they get more romance content than Rook. Sounds like the epilogue to Trespasser with Dorian all over again where Bull gets way more screens than the Inquisitor. Not sure how far you are. Have you done the big choice yet? If not, don't read the next bit. However, I wonder if it makes it all the more heartbreaking when it comes to the decision over the cities. I think that may be what Corinne was referring to. Both of them want you to save their city so if you choose one over the other, do they break up over it? I know it doesn't effect your romance with them, it just proceeds more slowly but perhaps it is different if they are in a relationship.
Also if the clip I watched had the person saving Minrathous, then perhaps the romance is so slow moving that you do only get as far as an actual kiss.
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Post by Liepsnele on Nov 4, 2024 11:29:14 GMT
Oh, perhaps that is why I couldn't find a sex scene then. I watched a video that claimed to show his entire character arc, at least up until the end of the Crow personal quest and it was very chaste but sweet in a way. Davrin looked a really good romance and of course you also get Assan as a bonus. I wonder if he ends up with anyone else if you don't romance him? Bellara may be? Emmrich teams up with Strife of all people if he isn't romanced and we already knew about Taash and Harding. I liked the fact that it is Neve he gets together with but it would be disappointing if they get more romance content than Rook. Sounds like the epilogue to Trespasser with Dorian all over again where Bull gets way more screens than the Inquisitor. Not sure how far you are. Have you done the big choice yet? If not, don't read the next bit. However, I wonder if it makes it all the more heartbreaking when it comes to the decision over the cities. I think that may be what Corinne was referring to. Both of them want you to save their city so if you choose one over the other, do they break up over it? I know it doesn't effect your romance with them, it just proceeds more slowly but perhaps it is different if they are in a relationship.
Also if the clip I watched had the person saving Minrathous, then perhaps the romance is so slow moving that you do only get as far as an actual kiss. I did the big choice between Treviso and Minrathous yesterday, chose Treviso just because I didn't want to be locked out of his romance. I heard that it is possible to mess it up but if it is not the city choice then I don't what it could be.
Also lol at Emmrich getting together with Spite. That will be exciting to witness. I guess Lucanis can be (or always gets) exorcised but I'm won't spoil myself more.
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Post by roselavellan on Nov 4, 2024 12:27:25 GMT
Really spoiler-y question about Lucanis romance and its progression I just read that Lucanis romance is very barebones, even when the romance is locked it. That it feels as if you're just buddies who flirt from time to time.
If unromanced, he gets together with Neve and they share more content that Rook and Lucanis. It seems the only kiss you have with him is at the end of Act 3, other than that there is nothing in the whole game.
Could someone confirm whether it's true or not without spoiling much? I'm still in Act 1 and if Lucanis romance is really that lacking, I'll just go with Davrin. I'd love to know this as well. I just picked up Davrin and when I returned from the quest, I was immediately presented with the Minrathous/Treviso choice - and I hadn't done the Coffee with the Crows companion quest yet! And I would totally reload a save... if the last pre-Davrin save wasn't like 3 hours ago.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2024 15:43:28 GMT
Also lol at Emmrich getting together with Spite. No you misread it, just as I misheard it the first time I watched the clip. Not Spite but Strife. You know the dark skinned older elf in the Veil Jumpers. I did think the Emmrich and Spite would have been interesting, particularly if Lucanis was simultaneously romancing someone else, but luckily the game isn't that messed up.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2024 15:46:40 GMT
Really spoiler-y question about Lucanis romance and its progression I just read that Lucanis romance is very barebones, even when the romance is locked it. That it feels as if you're just buddies who flirt from time to time.
If unromanced, he gets together with Neve and they share more content that Rook and Lucanis. It seems the only kiss you have with him is at the end of Act 3, other than that there is nothing in the whole game.
Could someone confirm whether it's true or not without spoiling much? I'm still in Act 1 and if Lucanis romance is really that lacking, I'll just go with Davrin. I'd love to know this as well. I just picked up Davrin and when I returned from the quest, I was immediately presented with the Minrathous/Treviso choice - and I hadn't done the Coffee with the Crows companion quest yet! And I would totally reload a save... if the last pre-Davrin save wasn't like 3 hours ago. Depending on which choice you intend to make, it might be better to go back and finish the Crow quests first. Probably not so bad if you choose Treviso but just to be on the safe side. The same is true of the Shadow Dragon quests. You need to do them all before you go to Davrin.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2024 15:49:05 GMT
So... does this romance have a happy ending? Short answer, yes. Longer answer, depends on your choices. To be honest I don't know why Mary Kirby said he was a dumpster fire. He has issues but then so does everyone in Dragon Age. I still say we had much bigger problems with Anders when it comes to possessed companions.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 4, 2024 16:01:47 GMT
Sooo was the whole "short king" thing a total marketing lie or what? My Rook is slightly taller than default and they are about the same height, Lucanis maybe even ever so slightly taller, I'd say? So what was all that about? Screenshot proof, spoiler for size: Not that it matters, just noticed.
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Post by roselavellan on Nov 4, 2024 17:57:53 GMT
Depending on which choice you intend to make, it might be better to go back and finish the Crow quests first. Probably not so bad if you choose Treviso but just to be on the safe side. The same is true of the Shadow Dragon quests. You need to do them all before you go to Davrin. Thanks, yeah, I found a huge backlog of unfinished faction and companion quests, so it definitely made sense to reload the pre-Davrin save. I really should be saving more often, but BG3's 25 autosaves limit really spoilt me and I lost that habit.
I have Lucanis and Neve in my team a lot and it's nice to hear them bonding. I'm not even sure I want to romance Lucanis now, they're just so cute chatting with each other.
Edit: I just read a reddit thread complaining about Lucanis' romance, and it really sounds like the writers made an incredibly odd choice to prioritise Lucanis and Neve's relationship. Hopefully it's a bug or an oversight.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2024 18:10:58 GMT
Sooo was the whole "short king" thing a total marketing lie or what? I don't know. He's short compared with Emmrich and Taash but so are most people I would imagine. So, it probably was a bit of marketing hype or something. As I've said, I don't get Mary Kirby saying he was a dumpster fire. I thought that meant it was impossible to "fix" his issues but it isn't. I've seen his whole romance now and I think he's really sweet. Even without that, as a friend he is loyal, courteous and polite. What is it with these Crow assassins? Zevran was just the same once you got past his issues and I imagine Lucanis will be just as devoted as he was.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Nov 5, 2024 10:42:48 GMT
I would say... this seems true. I was flirting with him (while I still could...will come back to that) and Neve and him would flirt in banter while traveling with the two of them. By the time a "certain" choice comes up, I had done all available companion/faction quests and even made sure to go back to all the open regions to do any "!" side quests. In the end, it appears to not matter. I am about half way or more in Act 2 and I have had no flirt options since the "critical" choice, and he is already talking about Neve to my Rook. Maybe it's a bug, but it might be intended too. Regardless, it looks like my Rook is just everybody's cheerleader/therapist, and she will end up alone. Bitter like black coffee...He!
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Post by Liepsnele on Nov 5, 2024 10:46:36 GMT
I would say... this seems true. I was flirting with him (while I still could...will come back to that) and Neve and him would flirt in banter while traveling with the two of them. By the time a "certain" choice comes up, I had done all available companion/faction quests and even made sure to go back to all the open regions to do any "!" side quests. In the end, it appears to not matter. I am about half way or more in Act 2 and I have had no flirt options since the "critical" choice, and he is already talking about Neve to my Rook. Maybe it's a bug, but it might be intended too. Regardless, it looks like my Rook is just everybody's cheerleader/therapist, and she will end up alone. Bitter like black coffee...He! I wonder if it's intended or just left unfinished since his writer got laid off a year ago. But romances don't seem to be priority in general, Inquisition had more romance content.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 5, 2024 11:47:20 GMT
I would say... this seems true. I was flirting with him (while I still could...will come back to that) and Neve and him would flirt in banter while traveling with the two of them. By the time a "certain" choice comes up, I had done all available companion/faction quests and even made sure to go back to all the open regions to do any "!" side quests. In the end, it appears to not matter. I am about half way or more in Act 2 and I have had no flirt options since the "critical" choice, and he is already talking about Neve to my Rook. Maybe it's a bug, but it might be intended too. Regardless, it looks like my Rook is just everybody's cheerleader/therapist, and she will end up alone. Bitter like black coffee...He! I wonder if it's intended or just left unfinished since his writer got laid off a year ago. But romances don't seem to be priority in general, Inquisition had more romance content. Which "critical" choice did you make. One results in the relationship moving more slowly. However, you should have got the option to lock in his romance before the end of Act 1 if you did all his relevant companion/faction quests. (That side block should have warned you/told you that you did). If you are still getting heart icons for other companions or he is still flirting with Neve, then it would seem you didn't. Regardless, I don't think you get the major romance scene until the end of Act 2 or beginning of Act 3. I'm not sure having only watched it on You Tube but I know it is pretty late in the game.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 5, 2024 12:14:04 GMT
I wonder if it's intended or just left unfinished since his writer got laid off a year ago. But romances don't seem to be priority in general, Inquisition had more romance content. Which "critical" choice did you make. One results in the relationship moving more slowly. However, you should have got the option to lock in his romance before the end of Act 1 if you did all his relevant companion/faction quests. (That side block should have warned you/told you that you did). If you are still getting heart icons for other companions or he is still flirting with Neve, then it would seem you didn't. Regardless, I don't think you get the major romance scene until the end of Act 2 or beginning of Act 3. I'm not sure having only watched it on You Tube but I know it is pretty late in the game. Don't expect the major romance scene before some major events in Act 3. The romance's culmination comes basically right before game's culmination.
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Post by Liepsnele on Nov 5, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
Which "critical" choice did you make. One results in the relationship moving more slowly. However, you should have got the option to lock in his romance before the end of Act 1 if you did all his relevant companion/faction quests. (That side block should have warned you/told you that you did). If you are still getting heart icons for other companions or he is still flirting with Neve, then it would seem you didn't. Regardless, I don't think you get the major romance scene until the end of Act 2 or beginning of Act 3. I'm not sure having only watched it on You Tube but I know it is pretty late in the game. Still in Act 1 Saved Treviso just so I don't get locked out of the romance lol. It's stated in various guides online that romance is locked if you save Minrathous instead.
I guess I'll just keep playing the main story and the crumbs where I can get. Quite disappointing that he flirts more with Neve than with Rook.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 5, 2024 14:45:17 GMT
Which "critical" choice did you make. One results in the relationship moving more slowly. However, you should have got the option to lock in his romance before the end of Act 1 if you did all his relevant companion/faction quests. (That side block should have warned you/told you that you did). If you are still getting heart icons for other companions or he is still flirting with Neve, then it would seem you didn't. Regardless, I don't think you get the major romance scene until the end of Act 2 or beginning of Act 3. I'm not sure having only watched it on You Tube but I know it is pretty late in the game. Still in Act 1 Saved Treviso just so I don't get locked out of the romance lol. It's stated in various guides online that romance is locked if you save Minrathous instead.
I guess I'll just keep playing the main story and the crumbs where I can get. Quite disappointing that he flirts more with Neve than with Rook. Hmm, your guides should know better than me but I thought the romance should continue on regardless of the choice but it is just much slower if you don't save Treviso.
As I say, a good indicator would be if you are being given heart icons with respect to anyone else. Or have you never flirted with anyone but Lucanis? If Midnight Tea says the main romance scene isn't until Act 3 then you may have a while to wait. The critical choice comes some way before the end of Act 1 from what I recall, so you've plenty of time yet for the romance to get locked in.
That's the thing really. It would seem that this is much more like ME2 or even ME1 where you don't get your main romance scene until pretty late on in the game (although I believe it can happen sooner in ME2 if you opt for simply sex with Jack after which she rejects you), unlike previous DA games where it usually occurs somewhere after the equivalent of Act 1. They probably spread it out to give you something to look forward to. Also, you can't change your mind in terms of moving on to someone else (from what I've read) although you can break up with them if you want to. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that if they can't romance someone else but the option is there. Also there is no "would you like a massage?" like you get with Zevran. Nor does Lucanis kiss and tell so far as I know. So no "have you ever licked a lamppost?" like you get with Alistair concerning your previous sexual experience, although I suppose the innuendo with coffee sort of counts. Does he talk about previous romances with Neve?
Have you had the interrupted kiss scene yet? I've noticed this seems to be a feature of every romance that I've seen so far. Rook and the LI are just about to make contact and then someone or something stops them. In fact, from what I've seen of them, every romance does seem to follow a fixed formula that makes it rather cookie cutter in the way it develops. I think DAI did it much better.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Nov 5, 2024 17:35:47 GMT
I'll lay out the quick and dirty path that I took: In Act 1, I only flirted with Lucanis. I didn't do the first two (I think) flirts, since those were right after he was recruited and dealing with the "Spite" reveal. I did get the coffee trip with him, and I took the flirt options. Nothing ever popped up to indicate I was locking something in. Had no idea that THAt was the lock-in moment (didn't look at any guides on it, guess I should have ). Why would they have you hard lock in Act 1. A soft lock I get, but hard lock? Since I made my Rook a Shadow Dragon, I did save Minrathous. Honestly, if he couldn't feel good about "being" with my Rook due to that, I would actually understand. However, Neve is also the one championing Rook to "Save our City", yet he will still get together with her? Okaaaay.... Oh, and I should mention that I never bought him or any of the other companions the "gifts" from the vendors. Finding the gift items in DAO is one thing, and through conversations with them you learn what they like. Just buying a gift from the faction vendor feels very "gamey". Besides, I honestly felt like those gifts were just there in case you needed to boost their approval (got a few too many "disapproves" due to choices in convos). Saw the gifts like the Feast Day gifts in Origins. Bah. Either my game bugged with that lock option not popping, or I REALLY should have paid for his approval. Take the above as what NOT to do. If anything changes, I will post again.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 5, 2024 18:00:07 GMT
If anything changes, I will post again. I don't think that was the coffee trip I meant. Lucanis is big on coffee and there is more than one occasion you have coffee with him. The one where you lock him in is later than the one you mentioned. (I think). If you didn't get the pop up then it wasn't the lock in one. They are pretty obvious and hard to miss in this game.
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Post by roselavellan on Nov 5, 2024 18:03:02 GMT
I'll lay out the quick and dirty path that I took: In Act 1, I only flirted with Lucanis. I didn't do the first two (I think) flirts, since those were right after he was recruited and dealing with the "Spite" reveal. I did get the coffee trip with him, and I took the flirt options. Nothing ever popped up to indicate I was locking something in. Had no idea that THAt was the lock-in moment (didn't look at any guides on it, guess I should have ). Why would they have you hard lock in Act 1. A soft lock I get, but hard lock? Since I made my Rook a Shadow Dragon, I did save Minrathous. Honestly, if he couldn't feel good about "being" with my Rook due to that, I would actually understand. However, Neve is also the one championing Rook to "Save our City", yet he will still get together with her? Okaaaay.... Oh, and I should mention that I never bought him or any of the other companions the "gifts" from the vendors. Finding the gift items in DAO is one thing, and through conversations with them you learn what they like. Just buying a gift from the faction vendor feels very "gamey". Besides, I honestly felt like those gifts were just there in case you needed to boost their approval (got a few too many "disapproves" due to choices in convos). Saw the gifts like the Feast Day gifts in Origins. Bah. Either my game bugged with that lock option not popping, or I REALLY should have paid for his approval. Take the above as what NOT to do. If anything changes, I will post again. The coffee quest is the hard lock? Nooo... I didn't get anything there, even though my Rook chose the heart option and even propositioned him with some kissing practice. It was met with cool avoidance on his part, to her utter embarrassment. She had the tea set ready to gift him too, which she did after the coffee meeting.
Is there a minimum bond level? He was at level 4 with Rook.
Edit: I just read gervaise's response. I do hope I haven't botched anything. Fingers crossed.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 5, 2024 18:22:32 GMT
Edit: I just read gervaise's response. I do hope I haven't botched anything. Fingers crossed. Honestly, don't panic. I think he is very much a slow burner. He will get there eventually but you have to be patient. And lots of TLC and coffee! He's really very sweet.
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"Begone, spirit! I will not play your games."
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Nov 5, 2024 19:43:29 GMT
Lucanis romancers out there: Avoid taking Lucanis and Neve in your team if you’re the jealous type. They’ll flirt shamelessly in front of you (it’s funny though), and I’m like, WTF Neve, first you take my spot as the Ice Mage of the group, now you want that good Antivan d1ck too? 😡
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