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Post by trengilly on Jun 12, 2024 4:14:52 GMT
Decided my first playthrough will be a Female Mage Lord of Fortune romancing Lucanis.
I love basically everything Mary Kirby has written so I have confidence Lucanis will be an interesting choice!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 7:31:47 GMT
I'm sorry but the tarot card makes it very obvious there is something odd about Lucanis. Why is purple fire streaming from his eye? We already know from the trailer he can sport purple wings. I've been wanting to romance Lucanis since Tevinter Nights but this really has me worried. The last guy I really wanted to romance before the game and then had glowing eyes within it was Anders. I wonder what sort of spirit could be co-existing in Lucanis?
Other than that, I think he could be really interesting and I agree if Mary Kirby wrote him then that is a good sign. Her last hurrah for Bioware before they ditched her. I will probably stick with Lucanis come what may just to honour her contribution. I look forward to discovering who his VA is and hearing his voice. I'm guessing he is going to have a Spanish accent.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 7:41:59 GMT
I'm sorry but the tarot card makes it very obvious there is something odd about Lucanis. Why is purple fire streaming from his eye? We already know from the trailer he can sport purple wings. I've been wanting to romance Lucanis since Tevinter Nights but this really has me worried. The last guy I really wanted to romance before the game and then had glowing eyes within it was Anders. I wonder what sort of spirit could be co-existing in Lucanis? Other than that, I think he could be really interesting and I agree if Mary Kirby wrote him then that is a good sign. Her last hurrah for Bioware before they ditched her. I will probably stick with Lucanis come what may just to honour her contribution. I look forward to discovering who his VA is and hearing his voice. I'm guessing he is going to have a Spanish accent. THe multiple eye like peacock thing in the background also makes me think that he could be the traitor this time as well. Isn't that kind of imagery have something to do with the Evanuris?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 8:00:16 GMT
THe multiple eye like peacock thing in the background also makes me think that he could be the traitor this time as well. Isn't that kind of imagery have something to do with the Evanuris? Oh Bo***cks! Not your theory but the fact you are probably right. Here I go again. He isn't even an elf. There is a nice elf all set up for me who even has a fluffy griffon. There is absolutely no reason to go for the dark, brooding, bad boy and yet I'm like a moth to a flame. What the hell. I think I'll use my tragic star crossed Lavellan as my Inquisitor for my first run and go for the full Shakespearean tragedy. Forewarned is forearmed. Solas hit me hard because he seemed like such a good guy in all his conversations, saying all the things I wished I could to other people and seeming so reasonable with me. From that PoV, with Lucanis I know in advance he is dodgy so if it ends in anything other than tears I will be pleasantly surprised.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 8:03:22 GMT
THe multiple eye like peacock thing in the background also makes me think that he could be the traitor this time as well. Isn't that kind of imagery have something to do with the Evanuris? Oh Bo***cks! Not your theory but the fact you are probably right. Here I go again. He isn't even an elf. There is a nice elf all set up for me who even has a fluffy griffon. There is absolutely no reason to go for the dark, brooding, bad boy and yet I'm like a moth to a flame. What the hell. I think I'll use my tragic star crossed Lavellan as my Inquisitor for my first run and go for the full Shakespearean tragedy. Forewarned is forearms. Solas hit me hard because he seemed like such a good guy in all his conversations, saying all the things I wished I could to other people and seeming so reasonable with me. From that PoV, with Lucanis I know in advance he is dodgy so if it ends in anything other than tears I will be pleasantly surprised. I mean don't get me wrong as you know, probably, I am extremly biased against the man at least so far, do wonder if he can prove me wrong in Veilguard itself...that said that bit in the end just makes me say he be sus.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 8:14:32 GMT
Also, nothing is set in stone. As I say, I thought I would be romancing Anders in DA2 but first run before the end of Act 2 I had decided against it and stuck with Fenris. Clearly my instincts were right there. So, I'll see how it goes. I definitely won't be rushing into anything. Apparently we can really build friendships this time round, so I can always opt for that instead if I'm starting to have doubts. To be honest, my male Lavellan felt Solas' betrayal even more than female Lavellan because he looked on him as a friend and then felt completely betrayed. She hopes to save Solas from himself; he vowed to stop him at all costs. I was going to use him on my first run but now I think female Lavellan will be more interesting. She was also a Knight Enchanter mage, whereas he was a hunter/assassin.
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Post by marikahaliwell on Jun 12, 2024 8:14:33 GMT
Well, I will join you in sorrow or happiness, sisters 🤣 I wanted him as a romancable companion since Tevinter Nights too
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 8:17:19 GMT
Also, nothing is set in stone. As I say, I thought I would be romancing Anders in DA2 but first run before the end of Act 2 I had decided against it and stuck with Fenris. Clearly my instincts were right there. So, I'll see how it goes. I definitely won't be rushing into anything. Apparently we can really build friendships this time round, so I can always opt for that instead if I'm starting to have doubts. To be honest, my male Lavellan felt Solas' betrayal even more than female Lavellan because he looked on him as a friend and then felt completely betrayed. She hopes to save Solas from himself; he vowed to stop him at all costs. I was going to use him on my first run but now I think female Lavellan will be more interesting. She was also a Knight Enchanter mage, whereas he was a hunter/assassin. Do love RP variation like this and how plans can change. Isabella was going to be my romance in 2 but then I did NOT like her so went with Anders because him and my Hawke just clicked. And then Citadel DLC my paragrade Shepard went to go save the clone...because she was put in that exact same position...but my true blue Paragon kicked him off the side of the Normandy since he had no way of being sympathetic to that position given how morally righteous he was.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Jun 12, 2024 8:26:06 GMT
Seems perfect for an angsty affair. If Bioware decides to go back to Friendship/Rivalry paths (which I really hope so), he would be my go-to option for a Rivalry romance.
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Post by TabithaTH on Jun 12, 2024 8:34:28 GMT
Yeah other than DAO (where I didn’t know anything about the game before playing) I have always ended ip romancing the person I was sure I would dislike the most.
Fenris seemed too emo and I thought I knew Anders from DAA. Ended up disliking new Anders and Loving Fenris.
The one picture I had seen of Solas made him look too Nosferatu vampire-esque and I assumed Cullen would be my pick. While I didn’t dislike Cullen, he just ended up more boring, while Solas was more scholarly and intriguing.
I am thinking Lucanis is in the top of romance options, but it does have a tendency to change once I actually get to know the companions. There’s also the fact that I might play as a rogue. With only 2 companion slots, it’s all the more important to have a balanced party and I do have a tendency to have any LI as a permanent party member.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 8:37:46 GMT
And then Citadel DLC my paragrade Shepard went to go save the clone...because she was put in that exact same position...but my true blue Paragon kicked him off the side of the Normandy since he had no way of being sympathetic to that position given how morally righteous he was Ah now Mass Effect was interesting my first run. My paragon Shepard always felt a bit guilty about saving Ashley over Kaidan because she was his love interest, so after she appeared to reject him he resolved not to get involved with anyone before the Suicide Run so he wouldn't be influenced that way again but he always felt protective towards Jack because he saw how broken she was by Cerberus. After they all came through it successfully, he hooked up with Jack. Then when he went to see Ashley in hospital she made some really nasty comments about Jack and that was it, there was no way they were going to mend that relationship, so from then on it was Jack for him. So, it is funny how things don't always work out as you think they will.
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Post by athras on Jun 12, 2024 10:04:53 GMT
I'm sorry but the tarot card makes it very obvious there is something odd about Lucanis. Why is purple fire streaming from his eye? We already know from the trailer he can sport purple wings. I've been wanting to romance Lucanis since Tevinter Nights but this really has me worried. The last guy I really wanted to romance before the game and then had glowing eyes within it was Anders. I wonder what sort of spirit could be co-existing in Lucanis? Other than that, I think he could be really interesting and I agree if Mary Kirby wrote him then that is a good sign. Her last hurrah for Bioware before they ditched her. I will probably stick with Lucanis come what may just to honour her contribution. I look forward to discovering who his VA is and hearing his voice. I'm guessing he is going to have a Spanish accent. Same here. I figured based on the Tevinter Nights that his personal stuff will be about the responsibility to the Crows and family, maybe some angst when the Venatori inevitably use his goodness against him. But that tarot card makes me nervous. I hope it's just a stylistic choice and he ends up being normal.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 13:32:41 GMT
I hope it's just a stylistic choice and he ends up being normal. If he is possessed, it is possible to reverse it. DG said that was the case with Anders, just he never wanted to. Also, based off Wynne, if the spirit possessed him to prevent his death, then it might be a bit more problematic because if it leaves he may die anyway. Emmrich has green glowing eyes in his tarot, which reflects his connection to the Fade and spirits, whilst Solas glow blue but the purple is a bit disconcerting because that is more associated with the magic of the Arch-demons, although back in DAO purple was associated with death magic generally and last game was associated with the necromancy class and spells. At the moment I'm still hopeful that it is a spirit link a bit like that for a Spirit Warrior. They use spirits to help them in ways that look like magic to outsiders, particularly when it comes to defensive buffs, but help them defeat their enemies too. That would be really cool as we have never encountered a proper Spirit Warrior (unless we took that class ourselves in DAA) because Kristoff was already a corpse when Justice possessed his body. The true Spirit Warrior is very much alive but having a beneficial relationship with a spirit. Of course, it could be a demon but we know that can be something of a fluid state where spirits are concerned.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 12, 2024 14:06:25 GMT
Oh no. This line of thinking makes a little too much sense to me. Maybe he didn't fake his own death. Maybe he died and his body is being possessed by a spirit that thinks it's him. We always seem to have one spirit-touched companion, don't we
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Post by athras on Jun 12, 2024 14:08:40 GMT
I hope it's just a stylistic choice and he ends up being normal. If he is possessed, it is possible to reverse it. DG said that was the case with Anders, just he never wanted to. Also, based off Wynne, if the spirit possessed him to prevent his death, then it might be a bit more problematic because if it leaves he may die anyway. Emmrich has green glowing eyes in his tarot, which reflects his connection to the Fade and spirits, whilst Solas glow blue but the purple is a bit disconcerting because that is more associated with the magic of the Arch-demons, although back in DAO purple was associated with death magic generally and last game was associated with the necromancy class and spells. At the moment I'm still hopeful that it is a spirit link a bit like that for a Spirit Warrior. They use spirits to help them in ways that look like magic to outsiders, particularly when it comes to defensive buffs, but help them defeat their enemies too. That would be really cool as we have never encountered a proper Spirit Warrior (unless we took that class ourselves in DAA) because Kristoff was already a corpse when Justice possessed his body. The true Spirit Warrior is very much alive but having a beneficial relationship with a spirit. Of course, it could be a demon but we know that can be something of a fluid state where spirits are concerned. Spirit warrior would be quite interesting, I wouldn't mind that actually. It could maybe explain his Veil/mage radar.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 14:19:43 GMT
We always seem to have one spirit-touched companion, don't we This is true but it varies as to their nature. In DAO Wynne was sort of a co-operative possession by a faith spirit, which she willingly relinquished when it could save the life of another. DAA: Justice possessed a corpse and was sort of able to recover some of Kristoff's memories but eventually relinquished it for a living host in Anders. According to Anders' short story he actually died too when attacked by the Templars but Justice revived him (at least that is how I understood it) but after DA2 DG said it would have been possible to relinquish him, which suggests Anders didn't die then. Also, after we stab Anders you can still see something moving behind his eyes, which suggests that Justice could have continued on with his body even if Anders had departed it. Then, of course, Cole was pure spirit having copied the body of the boy and absorbed his memories whilst waiting for him to starve to death. He couldn't have taken his body because the Templars found and hid it to conceal their neglect. I'm still holding out/hoping for a genuine Spirit Warrior, and he still faked his death rather than a spirit possessed his corpse but at the very least it is a relationship like the one Wynne enjoyed, even if the spirit isn't as benign as hers was. In the story in Tevinter Nights the spirits seem to obey him when he tells them they have had their vengeance so they should now leave, which suggests he may have already been linked with a spirit even then and that it is a powerful one. Just had a wild thought. What if it is Justice from DAA and DA2? That might account for why Lucanis was so intent on giving the slaves justice in the Wigmaker Job. Ilario didn't approve because that's not how Crows do jobs and how Lucanis was trained, yet he insisted. That would be amazing if Justice was back as his old self helping Lucanis.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 12, 2024 14:31:12 GMT
Just had a wild thought. What if it is Justice from DAA and DA2? That might account for why Lucanis was so intent on giving the slaves justice in the Wigmaker Job. Ilario didn't approve because that's not how Crows do jobs and how Lucanis was trained, yet he insisted. That would be amazing if Justice was back as his old self helping Lucanis. Justice still being around would be wild indeed.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 12, 2024 16:03:09 GMT
Caitie Ghil Dirthalen mentioned in an episode of Split the Veil, iirc, that she would describe Lucanis as "2% Mage". Maybe Lucanis having those glowing eyes are just one oddity that has happened in the "real world" since Solas started his ritual. The other one could be Harding having magic, perhaps?
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 12, 2024 16:42:26 GMT
My favorite new character / companion (after Harding if she counts as new) I don´t know much about Lucanis but i must say its very tempting to finally have another Antivan Crow companion. As the grandson of the first Talon Caterina Dellamorta he many interesting stories to tell.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 16:51:58 GMT
Maybe Lucanis having those glowing eyes are just one oddity that has happened in the "real world" since Solas started his ritual. The other one could be Harding having magic, perhaps? I'd go with this explanation except there was something different about him in Tevinter Nights and that was before Solas really got his ritual going. Now Harding is a different matter because she didn't have any magical abilities in the Missing, so either it is a hangover from her visiting Arlathan Forest then or possibly they will occur because of the latest episode when the Veil was weakening. The other problem is that I don't think Harding has weird eyes on her tarot card. Of course, there could be a simple explanation and that is special magical items Lucanis has acquired over the years. I mentioned how his cloak actually had a purple wings symbol on the back so that could be the source of his wings. Perhaps he also has rings or an amulet that gives him other powers. Normally though these are external things like making you faster or allowing your to buff up your weapons with elemental magic. I can't recall any magical item that makes your eyes glow, so it has to be some inherent magic manifesting if there isn't a spirit responsible. Oh well, it is just an intriguing mystery we shall have to get to the bottom of as we get to know him.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 16:56:08 GMT
Think I'm going to go with a mage first run. That will be interesting considering he is a trained mage killer. I think he only kills bad mages like Venatori though, so probably not as awkward as it was when Fenris discovered I was a mage. Still, he was devoted to me by the end of Act 3 (although it did take that long for him to admit it) so I'm not worried.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 12, 2024 17:12:14 GMT
I feel like I need to brush up on my Lucanis lore but Bob smack it, I don't know where my copy of Tevinter Nights has gone!
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Post by jrpN7 on Jun 12, 2024 17:52:59 GMT
Definitely got my eyes on Lucanis as a love interest for my male Warrior (assuming men can romance him). His stealthy stab in the trailer was pretty sick, and got my attention right away. And despite him being a badass, I think I developed an immediate soft spot for him with the tarot card saying he lacks social skills. I like the idea of my Rook getting him out of his shell a bit and joking around.
Though, I have to say... the glowing eyes and sinister backdrop for him has me a little worried too. I don't want any of this dark urge shenanigans as if it were in BG3 where Lucanis' dark secrets get my eyes ripped out of their sockets while I'm cuddling him!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2024 18:18:16 GMT
I think I developed an immediate soft spot for him with the tarot card saying he lacks social skills. I like the idea of my Rook getting him out of his shell a bit and joking around. If you haven't read his story in Tevinter Nights, believe me his childhood was really messed up. He was regularly physically abused by his grandmother as part of his education. He conceded that she probably did it to drive home the lessons that would help him survive in the world into which he had been born but it just reinforced my negative view of the Crows I had held ever since Zevran told me of his experiences. It would seem it doesn't matter if you were purchased as a child or part of Crow aristocracy, it is just as brutal. In fact it was probably worse for him because he was being groomed for leadership. If he did fake his death to get away from a destiny that had been mapped out for him then I don't blame him in the slightest. Also, if he is uptight and socially awkward, that is probably why. He was basically trained to be a killing machine, nothing more.
However, something must have happened to him during his time in Tevinter before that because it was clear he had developed a sense of morality, so he was no longer content with just fulfilling his contract. That is why he has fascinated me ever since. Though, I have to say... the glowing eyes and sinister backdrop for him has me a little worried too. I don't want any of this dark urge shenanigans as if it were in BG3 where Lucanis' dark secrets get my eyes ripped out of their sockets while I'm cuddling him! I'm hoping it isn't anything that bad. He may have secrets we need to tease out of him but I actually don't think he would harm us. It is just our enemies that need to be worried. Also, probably not a good idea to try and talk him down once he is in killer mode (Varric please note)
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