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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 4, 2024 10:25:24 GMT
A lot of it stems from the ai not knowing how to use two handed skill tree or the reaver tree correctly. Also most of the constitution buffs are in the sword and board skill tree, so you can’t specc Bull’s con properly if you want to keep him two handed.
I hope stats are done differently in Veilguard, the allocation in Inquisiton was frustrating.
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Post by theascendent on Aug 4, 2024 10:30:13 GMT
I think I figured out the meaning behind the Mourn Watch faction symbol. (Skull-shaped beetle). It is a reference to the Nevarran Death Watch Beetle. Codex Entry by Brother Genetivi
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 4, 2024 12:23:14 GMT
I hope stats are done differently in Veilguard, the allocation in Inquisiton was frustrating. I note that the Slayer specialism specifically references two handed weapons, so presumably it is going to be possible to build their skills to maximise the benefits of two handed combat, whereas Champion, as always, is more connected with sword and shield. Meanwhile, Reaper is the wild card because until we know what Night Blades are we won't know which combat style it favours. However, considering it refers to "Blades", perhaps Reaper is going to feature a return of the dual wielding warrior that we haven't seen since DAO.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 4, 2024 12:29:11 GMT
I think I figured out the meaning behind the Mourn Watch faction symbol. (Skull-shaped beetle). It could be no more than that but even the beetles could have a direct connection with the practices of the Mortalitasi. In other words, did they adopt the beetle as their symbol because it was already associated with death or did the beetles get their name because of the symbol used by the Mortalitasi? I still can't make up my mind which of the risen gods is going to be most interested in the Grand Neccropolis. One part of me thinks it will be Ghilan'nain because I imagine weird death cults and calling spirits into be mummified bodies would be her sort of thing. I think she was definitely behind the perversion of Necromancy that Quentin used to recreate his wife and then Orsino used to transform himself into a monster. On the other hand, as I've pointed out previously, Elgar'nan definitely resembles a beetle if you take into account his head gear and those strange appendages sticking out from his body, which together with his other limbs make six legs.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 9, 2024 20:28:20 GMT
From the SDCC VA Panel: felassan.tumblr.com/post/758277879334420480/transcript-of-part-of-the-datv-meet-theJohn: I mean honestly, I will say like, we expected a great reaction to Emmrich. Went beyond what we expected for sure. But it’s been fascinating to see, because again, Emmrich is this character, he’s more of the professorial, more, he brings a wisdom and kind of a calmness to the group, so even when things are at their worst, there’s that one person in the group who’s kind’ve like, ‘okay, you know, we’ve got, let’s figure it out, slow, take a deep breath’. And just his journey through his character arc and his interaction with the others, it’s been fantastic to see. Even just finding opportunities for him to bounce off the other characters, you know, the way he talks to Bellara, the way he talks to Neve, it’s all so different, but it’s all so just, again, based around this core of this warm, kind-hearted, professorial necromancer, which again is not something that you see a lot of in media, usually necromancers are depicted a very specific way. But it’s been, just awesome to see how Emmrich has grown and just, really one of the most, one of my favorite experiences has been just working with Emmrich’s writer and working with Emmrich as a character. Nick: I think I’ve been preparing for Emmrich all my life. I was very attracted to the role initially. And I was so, I was overjoyed when I got it because I think it was, the writing of Emmrich is really fascinating. It’s this, this man that is obsessed with death, on one hand, but on death as a comfort, death as a transition, death as something that is not scary, and that ability to enable people to transition, and the investment that he gives in that sphere, which we don’t give in our own lives. I was immediately attracted to that and I thought that that was – I’d never seen that before, and so to go in these two ways, to talk about death and to talk about it in a way that is kind and that the transition becomes a kind transition, that was fascinating to me, and I think, will be fascinating to you too, yeah. Ashley: Yeah, Sylvia the lead writer basically was like, ‘Ash, you’re gonna need a dictionary for all of the sessions with Emmrich’, it’s like, 'Okay!’. And we get there, you just nailed them all, like 'shduhfejdkjjdhdjdhfjehfjkhehe into the Fade’. Nick: Well, I don’t know if I nailed them all, that’s very kind of you. But, there was some serious tongue-twisters there, and, but it’s great, it’s great to be in the booth, and to be given a challenge like that, and. Yeah, it’s fantastic, I mean that’s what I love to do, so it was great to be just gifted that. Nick: I mean it’s so interesting that this character has kind of caught fire a little because, when I did it I thought ‘okay, well everyone else is like so sexy and like, it’s just amazing, and I’ll just be this kind of professorial kinda guy chatting in the background, having fun, you know, dealing with death, and you know, on the side’, and suddenly it became this thing of like, no, this is actually really interesting. And I think people have found it interesting, and I love that! I love that you guys have also found it as interesting as I have as because, it’s, it’s a fantastic character, he’s a fantastic character, honestly.
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Post by theascendent on Aug 10, 2024 10:58:20 GMT
Interesting character description. They have really sold me on playing a Mourn Watch/Mortalitasi Rook for my first playthrough. Obviously I have no desire to romance him, but I imagine talking to him might be very enlightening in how Necromancy works.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 13, 2024 1:03:42 GMT
The first paragraph was most interesting to me, for what it said about Mortalitasi:
Now I'm not sure Solas sees it quite the same way, going off his interactions with Mortalitasi in Dreadwolf Take You, but it's useful insight into how Emmrich likely thinks.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 13, 2024 8:19:59 GMT
Now I'm not sure Solas sees it quite the same way, going off his interactions with Mortalitasi in Dreadwolf Take You, but it's useful insight into how Emmrich likely thinks. That relationship between Spellbinders and the Mortalitasi could prove significant. I have to admit I found the spellbinder Venatori disappointing as enemies. I never really understood what they were getting from the practice. They certainly weren't as dangerous as the Tevinter blood mages we had encountered in previous games, yet presumably the potential was there in theory for them to be more threatening than they were in game. Solas was strange in DAI in that he didn't seem to exhibit an objection to the Inquisitor taking necromancy as their specialism, yet he was pretty caustic with Dorian when discussing the discipline. I put that down to Solas being careful not to antagonise the Inquisitor and possibly let something slip about his true identity. However, in his interaction with Dorian Solas did mention slavery as well and I think it did boil down to whether the spirit is willing to work with the mage or is forced to. By contrast, Cole objected to the activities of necromancy because he said it harmed the spirits involved and they were not drawn through the Veil of their free will. The Mortalitasi in Dreadwolf Take You was also using a spirit as a servant to do completely mundane actions like stir their tea. The spirit seemed to be bound to the stirring stick, much as spellbinders bound spirits to objects like books, so there is definitely a relationship there. It is possible that what Solas was objecting to was binding the spirit to an inanimate object in that way and treating them like a slave. Also, that particular Mortalitasi was one of the group who took part in the ritual that was interrupted by Fen'Harel and where he warned them if ever they bound a spirit again their life was forfeit. So, was that a warning against the Mortalitasi generally or just the mages in that group? Now from what was displayed in Down Among the Dead Men, Emmrich's relationship to Manfred seems more akin to that of Solas and Cole, guiding the spirit in understanding the world. I don't think Emmrich treats him as a servant so much as an assistant, so not quite an equal but certainly with respect. He also seemed to show compassion for the spirit in the skull in his short story, although I do wonder why the spirit was so determined to reunite the skull with the corpse of the dead wife because I thought the animated corpses came about through an exchange of spirits on death, with the soul entering the Fade and a spirit coming in the opposite direction. Why then would the spirit have such an attachment for a relative of the deceased if it was just a random spirit of the Fade? Perhaps Emmrich will be able to explain this more when we meet him. I will also be fascinated to hear his thoughts on Solas and vice versa.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Aug 14, 2024 7:34:59 GMT
He also seemed to show compassion for the spirit in the skull in his short story, although I do wonder why the spirit was so determined to reunite the skull with the corpse of the dead wife because I thought the animated corpses came about through an exchange of spirits on death, with the soul entering the Fade and a spirit coming in the opposite direction. Why then would the spirit have such an attachment for a relative of the deceased if it was just a random spirit of the Fade? Perhaps Emmrich will be able to explain this more when we meet him. I will also be fascinated to hear his thoughts on Solas and vice versa. It might be that like Audric the spirit thought it was the dead person but it might be more like Justice in awakening. He didn't think he was Kristof but he had Kristof's memories and it was important to him to make things right with Kristof's wife. This was because he felt he had done her an injustice of course, but perhaps the spirit in that skull could remember the man wanted to be buried with his wife and was driven by whatever it's purpose is to fulfil that wish?
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2024 8:55:35 GMT
perhaps the spirit in that skull could remember the man wanted to be buried with his wife and was driven by whatever it's purpose is to fulfil that wish? This is likely the explanation but that does raise interesting questions. Did the spirit remember because they had taken a particular interest in the person in life and had been watching them from the other side of the Veil, or did the skull itself retain some vestige of the identity and memory of the person? I seem to recall that with Justice and Kristof among the gifts we could give him was a box of Kristof's mementos and an amulet, both of which would help him remember who Kirstof was in life. To some extent this would be the same as though a living person came across a box of possessions and this allowed them to understand something of the person who owned them but it would not actually allow you to know the mind of that person entirely. You might guess that they had a particular affection for someone but you wouldn't know for certain that if, for example, you took that item to their grave they would be at peace. That is what I found puzzling about the episode with the skull. Emmrich might guess that the skull needed to be reunited with the wife of the deceased but how did the spirit know this is what was required or even their identity? what connection did the spirit have with the individual in life? As for Audric, I thought he was the person in life but his spirit hadn't crossed the Veil as it normally would, instead remaining attached to his body, even though effectively the body was dead. He was disorientated so his memory was sketchy but he was still the soul of guardsman that he had been in life, not some random spirit who had adopted his identity. May be I misunderstood about this.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Aug 14, 2024 10:22:47 GMT
perhaps the spirit in that skull could remember the man wanted to be buried with his wife and was driven by whatever it's purpose is to fulfil that wish? This is likely the explanation but that does raise interesting questions. Did the spirit remember because they had taken a particular interest in the person in life and had been watching them from the other side of the Veil, or did the skull itself retain some vestige of the identity and memory of the person? I seem to recall that with Justice and Kristof among the gifts we could give him was a box of Kristof's mementos and an amulet, both of which would help him remember who Kirstof was in life. I think he could see Kristof's memories before you gave him stuff. He can remember that Kristof is a grey Warden after you defeat the Baroness. I think the remains retain memories from people they belonged to, hunted up this banter I heard recently on my playthrough: Justice: This... thing you spoke of. Switching bodies. Nathaniel: Not a favorite topic of yours, I take it? Justice: Would such a thing be permitted? Would it not be considered... abominable? Nathaniel: If they're dead, it's not as if they need the body, Justice. Justice: But I can still feel the man who once lived. I know his life, his... It is not just a body. Nathaniel: That's...good, isn't it? I'd rather you felt that way. Justice: Perhaps you are right. I had thought he just thought he was a dead person, like Cole, but in a corpse and with a competing dual anger/curiosity nature, but you made me curious so I went back and checked, turns out... Nobody knows! Lol Nobody seems sure what he is, even Audric himself, save for the pride demon inside Karn "A sad, sad thing, a spirit clinging to the dying curiosity of a man with a mania for baubles" but I wouldn't consider him a reliable source. Even if he knew the answer he'd possibly just have said whatever would mess with Audric's head the most anyways. While looking through thoughi did find this Which is what the pride demon in Karn is doing by trying to finish his duel with the duke. So the skull wanting to be buried with the wife must be something similar.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2024 14:15:55 GMT
I had thought he just thought he was a dead person, like Cole, but in a corpse and with a competing dual anger/curiosity nature, but you made me curious so I went back and checked, turns out... Nobody knows! Thanks for the heads up on all this. It is a long while since I played Awakening so my memory of the conversations between various characters was a bit sketchy. As for Down Among the Dead Men, I will have to re-read it properly myself but it does seem as though there is a great deal more to be discovered, even by the Mortalitasi, and now it is clear we will be visiting the Grand Necropolis I think it could definitely be a fascinating experience. I think I will definitely hold off playing a member of the Mourn Watch myself until a later run. I will feel less stupid asking questions of Emmrich if I am not one of his own faction.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 8:20:10 GMT
I've noticed a lot of people on You Tube are referring to him as "Bone Daddy". Is that really his nickname now outside these boards?
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 18, 2024 12:12:25 GMT
I've noticed a lot of people on You Tube are referring to him as "Bone Daddy". Is that really his nickname now outside these boards? lmao, that's amazing
it might be a new nickname though, haven't seen it anywhere else before
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 14:33:41 GMT
Also been wondering about the latest trailer: We see Emmrich initially entering a chamber with a special type of lamp (veilfire perhaps?). He seems to be communicating with the big horned skeleton but it is unclear if he is trying to control it or simply banish the spirit to the Fade. He says about drawing the Fade closer, which sounds ominous.
Then there is a second scene where a group of people seem to be worshiping the horned one. This is around the time Bellara is expressing horror at the return of their gods. So, is the horned one another god? I've always felt the founder of the Mortalitasi was a bit suss and she was likely reviving an older death cult rather than starting a completely new one. So which god might it be dedicated to? The Vints didn't have a specific god of the dead but the elves did. Or could this be another god unconnected to either of them?
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 23, 2024 10:21:39 GMT
I was re-reading the Flame Eternal and noticed that Johanna refers to Emmrich as "corpse whispering". So what do you think his nick-name should be: Bone Daddy or Corpse Whisper?
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Post by theascendent on Aug 23, 2024 12:39:41 GMT
Do you think Death Callers/Necromancers like Rook or Emmrich could perform a spell similar to 'Speak with Dead' from Baldur's Gate 3? Speak with a recently dead/undamaged corpse to answer questions. Or maybe interrogate spirits who witnessed the death of important/significant people to gather information? This reminds me of that time Yavanna, Morrigan's sister, from the Silent Grove comics apparently summoned the spirit of the recently killed Prince Claudio Valisti to interrogate him/it. Could we as a member of the Mourn Watch/Mortalitasi do something similar?
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Post by Rel Fexive on Aug 23, 2024 13:04:33 GMT
I was re-reading the Flame Eternal and noticed that Johanna refers to Emmrich as "corpse whispering". So what do you think his nick-name should be: Bone Daddy or Corpse Whisper? Emmrich is Bone Daddy. Manfred is Daddy Bones.
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Post by asen0311 on Aug 23, 2024 21:27:52 GMT
Do you think Death Callers/Necromancers like Rook or Emmrich could perform a spell similar to 'Speak with Dead' from Baldur's Gate 3? Speak with a recently dead/undamaged corpse to answer questions. Or maybe interrogate spirits who witnessed the death of important/significant people to gather information? This reminds me of that time Yavanna, Morrigan's sister, from the Silent Grove comics apparently summoned the spirit of the recently killed Prince Claudio Valisti to interrogate him/it. Could we as a member of the Mourn Watch/Mortalitasi do something similar? I was thinking this might be his specific action (I don't remember what they called them in the Game Informer article but Bellara had one specific to artifacts? and iirc they mentioned companions having unique actions to interact with things) or at least I'm hopeful. Would be fun.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 23, 2024 22:54:32 GMT
Some are speculating that Manfred might be Fairbanks (I guess because of Matthew Mercer and their similar outfit?)… what do you guys think? 🧐
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 24, 2024 7:08:51 GMT
Do you think Death Callers/Necromancers like Rook or Emmrich could perform a spell similar to 'Speak with Dead' from Baldur's Gate 3? Speak with a recently dead/undamaged corpse to answer questions. Or maybe interrogate spirits who witnessed the death of important/significant people to gather information? This reminds me of that time Yavanna, Morrigan's sister, from the Silent Grove comics apparently summoned the spirit of the recently killed Prince Claudio Valisti to interrogate him/it. Could we as a member of the Mourn Watch/Mortalitasi do something similar? I was thinking this might be his specific action (I don't remember what they called them in the Game Informer article but Bellara had one specific to artifacts? and iirc they mentioned companions having unique actions to interact with things) or at least I'm hopeful. Would be fun. It is highly likely Emmrich could do this. I was re-reading Murder by Death Mages from Tevinter Nights yesterday. It featured Sidony from DAMP rather than Emmrich but she was trained by a Mortalitasi and during her investigation of his death, at the scene of another murder, she was encouraged to consult with the spirit that may have been observing the death in order to gain information, which apparently is something that Mortalitasi generally are capable of. Also, DG wrote a short story about Dorian speaking with his father after his death. Dorian was simply a necromancer, although likely trained by a Mortalitasi in his specialism, but it does seem that an experience Mortalitasi, which is what Emmrich is, would have no trouble doing this. Also, since they say that Rook can sometimes gain the use of the more unique abilities of their companions (how exactly we have yet to discover), perhaps even a mage Rook generally could do so. Certainly, a Death Caller would likely possess certain skills in common with Emmrich, including perhaps the ability to speak with the dead.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 24, 2024 8:09:33 GMT
Some are speculating that Manfred might be Fairbanks (I guess because of Matthew Mercer and their similar outfit?)… what do you guys think? 🧐 Well we were told that Absolution was self contained with no bearing on the game but I suppose it is possible that they let the writer of the video series kill off Fairbanks because they were going to bring him back as Manfred. However, that would mean that Absolution was set probably before Trepasser (as seemed likely from the involvement of the Inquisition as a still operating organisation) because in Tevinter Nights (which is set after Trespasser) Manfred was already working with Emmrich. Plus, Fairbanks died up in Tevinter, not in Nevarra, so who performed the necessary funeral rites? Also, in Down Among the Dead Men he didn't actually speak but just moaned and gestured meaningfully, so I don't know how relevant his former identity would be unless he has acquired a voice since then. Also, just hearing the same voice would not mean anything to people who didn't see Absolution because I'm fairly certain someone else voiced Fairbanks in DAI. I'm still pretty salty about the fact they allowed the writer to use Fairbanks and then kill him off in Absolution. Why couldn't they use another character from the game and leave Fairbanks down in the Dales, chilling with his wife and leading the people there? (It was odd that Fairbanks, who knew nothing about Nevarra or Tevinter and had lived his life in southern Orlais, should have been the agent chosen for the quest). Thus, I am not particularly excited even if Manfred did turn out to have been Fairbanks in his former life
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 24, 2024 8:32:29 GMT
Some are speculating that Manfred might be Fairbanks (I guess because of Matthew Mercer and their similar outfit?)… what do you guys think? 🧐 Well we were told that Absolution was self contained with no bearing on the game but I suppose it is possible that they let the writer of the video series kill off Fairbanks because they were going to bring him back as Manfred. However, that would mean that Absolution was set probably before Trepasser (as seemed likely from the involvement of the Inquisition as a still operating organisation) because in Tevinter Nights (which is set after Trespasser) Manfred was already working with Emmrich. Plus, Fairbanks died up in Tevinter, not in Nevarra, so who performed the necessary funeral rites? Also, in Down Among the Dead Men he didn't actually speak but just moaned and gestured meaningfully, so I don't know how relevant his former identity would be unless he has acquired a voice since then. Also, just hearing the same voice would not mean anything to people who didn't see Absolution because I'm fairly certain someone else voiced Fairbanks in DAI. I'm still pretty salty about the fact they allowed the writer to use Fairbanks and then kill him off in Absolution. Why couldn't they use another character from the game and leave Fairbanks down in the Dales, chilling with his wife and leading the people there? (It was odd that Fairbanks, who knew nothing about Nevarra or Tevinter and had lived his life in southern Orlais, should have been the agent chosen for the quest). Thus, I am not particularly excited even if Manfred did turn out to have been Fairbanks in his former life Yeah... I'm mostly indifferent to it, to be totally honest... it's not like they'd be voiced absolutely the same, anyways, and the clothes aren't a 100% match... nor is Fairbanks like a favorite character of mine, or anything. I thought it was a bit of a stretch. But who knows, it's DA, right? Just wondering if there could be more to it, and if there were others on board with this theory. But I didn't know Absolution was self-contained like you described. Interesting, ty!
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 24, 2024 9:36:03 GMT
I suspect Manfred isn’t going to talk much, so whether or not he’s Fairbanks ultimately won’t mean much. At most it’ll be fun trivia akin to Brother Genitivi running the Randy Dowager.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2024 14:16:28 GMT
I suspect Manfred isn’t going to talk much, so whether or not he’s Fairbanks ultimately won’t mean much. At most it’ll be fun trivia akin to Brother Genitivi running the Randy Dowager. Lol, what if it's the opposite - Manfred does most of the talking for Emmrich
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