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Post by g_scoundrel on Jun 18, 2024 19:08:47 GMT
I remember speccing mages by element in DAI once. Dorian was electric, Vivienne was ice and Solas was spirit.
It was a bad idea. Mages need variety.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:10:08 GMT
I've gone through the article a couple of times but I can't find the part where it's mentioned that the Elven Gods are blighted? Where is this bit from? It is mentioned on page 37.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:10:35 GMT
I have argued against it for years, but I think at this point I'd rather just play as the Inquisitor. The description given to Rook is just not winning me over, unless there's a very good backstory to their recruitment. It's basically just '' they are competent, and potentially the best fit to lead this group of people, no McGuffins anywhere here '' like yeah okay, that's not very interesting or exciting. Granted, neither was Inquisitor, but at least they have rich background now with connections to many of the characters that play an integral role in the plot. Apparently the whole, "people he doesn't know" is made totally irrelevant almost immediately as well. I'm still waiting for one good reason I can't play as my Inquisitor.  Maybe they're stuck in the Fade as well 
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:11:06 GMT
The start story is disappointing DAI 2.0
I had hoped for a bit more.
But let's see what will happen.
Will be happy to see the character from the missing. Best part of the comic.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:11:15 GMT
I remember speccing mages by element in DAI once. Dorian was electric, Vivienne was ice and Solas was spirit. It was a bad idea. Mages need variety. In Inquisition. Half of article however is about how this is a new combat system.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 18, 2024 19:11:57 GMT
Well whole point of trying to redeem Solas is to pull him away from such path, save him from himself. Ethically, I feel compelled to try to talk him down from his intention of destroying the veil. But if I have to murder-knife him to keep it from happening, I will not feel bad at all. He's not a good person. If there is an option to convince him there is a better way, and you Rook and the team have found it, then I will happily try and convince Eggy and yeah I'd get him out of the Fade too if it comes down to it. But only if he says "You're right Rook, let's do it your way."
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 18, 2024 19:12:42 GMT
Apparently the whole, "people he doesn't know" is made totally irrelevant almost immediately as well. I'm still waiting for one good reason I can't play as my Inquisitor. Maybe they're stuck in the Fade as well  At this point, I pray that is the case. That's where my Inky would be headed as soon as she got the news anyway.
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Post by cyanwool on Jun 18, 2024 19:16:43 GMT
Ethically, I feel compelled to try to talk him down from his intention of destroying the veil. But if I have to murder-knife him to keep it from happening, I will not feel bad at all. He's not a good person. If there is an option to convince him there is a better way, and you Rook and the team have found it, then I will happily try and convince Eggy and yeah I'd get him out of the Fade too if it comes down to it. But only if he says "You're right Rook, let's do it your way." I imagine we will get dream sequences with him at key points in the story and our choices there would open up a contextual dialogue option to convince him at the final fight. But he will still betray us after leaving the fade, if he's supposed to be the final boss, BioWare wouldn't let us skip the entire endgame.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:17:47 GMT
I remember speccing mages by element in DAI once. Dorian was electric, Vivienne was ice and Solas was spirit. It was a bad idea. Mages need variety. But in DAI elementar wasn't a Specialization. This time they said it will be a specialization. So it can't be the normal magic spell as well.
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 18, 2024 19:19:39 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side?
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:22:08 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? the whole story at the beginning sounds like it was knitted with a hot needle.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 18, 2024 19:23:02 GMT
If there is an option to convince him there is a better way, and you Rook and the team have found it, then I will happily try and convince Eggy and yeah I'd get him out of the Fade too if it comes down to it. But only if he says "You're right Rook, let's do it your way." I imagine we will get dream sequences with him at key points in the story and our choices there would open up a contextual dialogue option to convince him at the final fight. But he will still betray us after leaving the fade, if he's supposed to be the final boss, BioWare wouldn't let us skip the entire endgame. Gosh, I really don't know how it would go. I guess he'd contact us from the Fade but I wonder if being thrown into it, without precautions, leaves Solas exposed to the blight? Maybe we don't want Solas to leave the Fade? Which could very well set him up as the last Boss, yes.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:23:13 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? It may yet pop up, probably in some unexpected places. Besides - according to the comic, the idol is sort of... split in half, no? And one half is now with Inquisition?
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 18, 2024 19:23:51 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? Oh something tells me that gets woven back into the story and involves the two released baddies.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 18, 2024 19:25:03 GMT
If there is an option to convince him there is a better way, and you Rook and the team have found it, then I will happily try and convince Eggy and yeah I'd get him out of the Fade too if it comes down to it. But only if he says "You're right Rook, let's do it your way." I imagine we will get dream sequences with him at key points in the story and our choices there would open up a contextual dialogue option to convince him at the final fight. But he will still betray us after leaving the fade, if he's supposed to be the final boss, BioWare wouldn't let us skip the entire endgame. Hope we aren’t forced to just stand there and listen to him during those moments like in Trespasser, and instead get to constantly call him out and rebuke him. If I’m forced to talk to him, I’m going to treat him the way my V treated Silverhand. |
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:25:36 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? the whole story at the beginning sounds like it was knitted with a hot needle. Or we don't know all details yet - and it wouldn't be the first time where Bioware will surprise us with how they'd utilize elements they foreshadowed earlier. Like... I'm amused that DAVe is at times discussed as if it was released already and replayed a dozen times There's still SO MUCH we don't know!
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 18, 2024 19:26:51 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? The Red Lyrium Idol? Where did that appear? I thought it was only in Absolution, which appears to be its own storyline, unrelated to Veilguards.
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Post by Reznore on Jun 18, 2024 19:29:18 GMT
Varric is so dead, it's not funny.
Btw you can catch a glimpse of probably someone on the ground with like a veil tear through their body on the gameplay demo.
And if we take directly refuge in the Lighthouse, and no Varric. Our boy is toasted.
I like how they say Rook has no Mc Guffin and then Rook got something in their blood so they can interact with the fade? Makes no sense. I guess just in case you play a dwarf, they got that covered.
I like taking over Solas homebase, he can rot in the fade as far as I'm concerned.
The rest is a whole lot of whatever. The Lighthouse could be cool.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:29:54 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? The Red Lyrium Idol? Where did that appear? I thought it was only in Absolution, which appears to be its own storyline, unrelated to Veilguards. It plays a role in the comics, in one of the stories in Tevinter Nights and it was basically the sole focus of official teaser trailer from 2018.
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Post by Liepsnele on Jun 18, 2024 19:30:26 GMT
Interesting how it's mentioned in the article that Rook is no one special with no secret McGuffin at their disposal but they go on and reveal that Rook's blood got mixed in with the ritual and they're forever connected to the fade. So Rook is special, just like the inquisitor was. Inquisition 2.0?
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 18, 2024 19:31:34 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? The Red Lyrium Idol? Where did that appear? I thought it was only in Absolution, which appears to be its own storyline, unrelated to Veilguards. The Red Lyrium Idol is what Hawke & Co. find in the Ancient Thaig. |
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:31:52 GMT
the whole story at the beginning sounds like it was knitted with a hot needle. Or we don't yet know all details yet - and it wouldn't be the first time where Bioware will surprise us with how they'd utilize elements they foreshadowed earlier. Like... I'm amused that DAVe is at times discussed as if it was released already and replayed a dozen times There's still SO MUCH we don't know! I hope that. I will buy this game. And hope it is as good as they claim it to be.
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 18, 2024 19:32:20 GMT
The Red Lyrium Idol? Where did that appear? I thought it was only in Absolution, which appears to be its own storyline, unrelated to Veilguards. Tevinter Nights and the Dragon Age comics. The timeline of how it got into Solas’ hands is a bit of a mess, so to summarize: -Meredith uses red lyrium idol and gets turned into a statue. -Solas convinced Carta thugs to retrieve red lyrium idol from her chest. (It wasn’t destroyed for some reason.) -Tevinters steal idol from Carta, who use it to create a new red lyrium sword as part of a whole effort to create a red lyrium-infused warrior. -After that plan goes south, the lyrium idol ends up in the hands of the Mortalitasi, who use it to try and power a ritual to stop the Qunari invasion. -After THAT plan goes south, the idol ends up on auction and is stolen back by Solas. Supposedly it was his idol to begin with. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 18, 2024 19:32:45 GMT
Interesting how it's mentioned in the article that Rook is no one special with no secret McGuffin at their disposal but they go on and reveal that Rook's blood got mixed in with the ritual and they're forever connected to the fade. So Rook is special, just like the inquisitor was. Inquisition 2.0? Yeah, it’s so similar it’s really aggravating. A regular person interrupts a ritual that would destroy the Veil, getting marked by it and now has unique connection that lets them oppose godly beings. Hmm, I swear I played this game a decade ago. |
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 18, 2024 19:33:55 GMT
Apparently the whole, "people he doesn't know" is made totally irrelevant almost immediately as well. I'm still waiting for one good reason I can't play as my Inquisitor.  With the fade headquarter aka the lighthouse well there is no good reason left. Rook is just a random guy / gal who was made into a leader figure like well the Inquisitor before.  But unlike been the last survivor Rook is good at bar fights and through an unlucky accident connect with Solas.
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