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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:34:21 GMT
the whole story at the beginning sounds like it was knitted with a hot needle. I had to look up that expression. German, right? Yes sorry. I haven't enough energy to look up proverbs. And my english isn't good enough for that. I should already sleeping. But i wanted to know the details.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Jun 18, 2024 19:34:29 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? If Solas is trapped in the fade without the idol, I think it’d be in the Veilguard’s best interest to keep Ghili’nain and Elgar’nan away from it.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 18, 2024 19:36:25 GMT
Interesting how it's mentioned in the article that Rook is no one special with no secret McGuffin at their disposal but they go on and reveal that Rook's blood got mixed in with the ritual and they're forever connected to the fade. So Rook is special, just like the inquisitor was. Inquisition 2.0? Yeah, it’s so similar it’s really aggravating. A regular person interrupts a ritual that would destroy the Veil, getting marked by it and now has unique connection that lets them oppose godly beings. Hmm, I swear I played this game a decade ago. Didn't one if the devs say Inquisition was only half the story? Now we're getting the second half, only with someone new, for some reason.
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 18, 2024 19:37:22 GMT
BioWare’s marketing for the past few years: WE NEED SOMEONE NEW TO STOP SOLAS
Veilguard: Actually, any asshole who can push over a pillar will do. His old Evanuris buddies will take care of the rest.
Christ Almighty, I weep for this franchise.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:38:41 GMT
So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? If Solas is trapped in the fade without the idol, I think it’d be in the Veilguard’s best interest to keep Ghili’nain and Elgar’nan away from it. I'd say that - whatever happens with Solas plans - the name VeilGUARD suggests that the Veil will have to survive, at least for a time being.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 18, 2024 19:39:48 GMT
Interesting how it's mentioned in the article that Rook is no one special with no secret McGuffin at their disposal but they go on and reveal that Rook's blood got mixed in with the ritual and they're forever connected to the fade. So Rook is special, just like the inquisitor was. Inquisition 2.0? The same thing probably happens to Harding in the prologue since she gains magical powers and a connection to the Fade is how you are a Mage.
It also explain how the demon in Sebastian's questline in DA2 turned the Lady into a mage when she wasn't before.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 18, 2024 19:40:28 GMT
Yeah, it’s so similar it’s really aggravating. A regular person interrupts a ritual that would destroy the Veil, getting marked by it and now has unique connection that lets them oppose godly beings. Hmm, I swear I played this game a decade ago. Didn't one if the devs say Inquisition was only half the story? Now we're getting the second half, only with someone new, for some reason. year it looks like it. But it doesn't make sense. With the marketing before, i have hoped for more.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:41:44 GMT
BioWare’s marketing for the past few years: WE NEED SOMEONE NEW TO STOP SOLAS Veilguard: Actually, any asshole who can push over a pillar will do. Christ Almighty, I weep for this franchise. Let's be fair here - in Veilguard gameplay reveal it's made clear by Neve that even reaching the pillar itself is a suicide mission thanks to all the raw magic involved in the ritual. So this is Impossible Heroics again, where the protagonist does what others say should be impossible.
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Post by Reznore on Jun 18, 2024 19:41:46 GMT
BioWare’s marketing for the past few years: WE NEED SOMEONE NEW TO STOP SOLAS Veilguard: Actually, any asshole who can push over a pillar will do. Christ Almighty, I weep for this franchise. Come on. I'm gonna make a thief lord of fortune named Lord of Bling, squat Solas house and make him regret all of his life choice every chance I get. I have high hopes.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 18, 2024 19:43:47 GMT
BioWare’s marketing for the past few years: WE NEED SOMEONE NEW TO STOP SOLAS Veilguard: Actually, any asshole who can push over a pillar will do. Christ Almighty, I weep for this franchise. Come on. I'm gonna make a thief lord of fortune named Lord of Bling, squat Solas house and make him regret all of his life choice every chance I get. I have high hopes. Needs to be a Dwarf!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 18, 2024 19:50:02 GMT
Or the Evanuris = the old gods This seems less likely now. Unless the dragons are their split soul, in which they will be off looking for them in the Deep Roads. Might give us a bit of breathing space. I'm pretty sure blight predates Evanuris, but they were first to unleash it. But they managed to contain, until Tevinter Magisters broke into the Black City and broke that containment. Yes, the article only said they were blighted creatures, so like all blighted creatures they spread the blight wherever they go but they may not be the actual source. Also, I think Solas was likely the one who contained it, not the Evanuris. I am curious as to why he couldn't just tell this to the Inquisitor at the end of Trespasser or just tell Varric and Harding. I mean wtf eggie? Yes, you would think that would have been something he could have revealed about his "plans" for them. Also, why it was becoming urgent (in elf terms). Also, why didn't he say as much to Varric? Ah well, what's done is done. This really reminds me of that one section of the Dock area in Kirkwall but surely it can't be...? No, it's Minrathous. It's built on a island surrounded by sea, so lots of harbour space. Also - because with all the shenanigans of last decades (Blight, Cory, etc) maybe the prison began deteriorating at an alarming speed, hence Solas was seemingly in such a rush?? To be fair to Solas it was possible for a mage (elf?) Lavellan to sense that the Crossroads was deteriorating when we went there with Morrigan and I did wonder after our conversation in Trespasser if other things, like his prison seals, were failing too. He still could have told us that though. So if Solas is getting trapped in the Fade and the villains are two of the Evanuris, then what was the point of all that build-up involving the red lyrium idol? Is that just getting shuffled to the side? He used it to create his blade and start the ritual. No idea how he managed to cleanse the blade but we know that is possible from Merrill and her eluvian.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 18, 2024 19:51:08 GMT
The one saving grace is that Epler I think said in the Q&A that the story of Solas and the Inquisitor are intrinsically connected. So hopefully it won't be a total waste.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 18, 2024 19:52:23 GMT
The Red Lyrium Idol? Where did that appear? I thought it was only in Absolution, which appears to be its own storyline, unrelated to Veilguards. No, that was a completely different artifact. The red lyrium idol featured in the last story in Tevinter Nights and was said to be necessary for his ritual.
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Post by Faye on Jun 18, 2024 19:53:41 GMT
Come to think of it I've never thought of Solas from a perspective of not romancing him. He must be insufferable for those who want nothing to do with him!! ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Sike now he can haunt your dreams and give you advice ![:wub:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/scRQRZMETVOTXDUFItkV.png)
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 19:53:43 GMT
Also - because with all the shenanigans of last decades (Blight, Cory, etc) maybe the prison began deteriorating at an alarming speed, hence Solas was seemingly in such a rush?? To be fair to Solas it was possible for a mage (elf?) Lavellan to sense that the Crossroads was deteriorating when we went there with Morrigan and I did wonder after our conversation in Trespasser if other things, like his prison seals, were failing too. He still could have told us that though. Deteriorating Crossroads =/= deteriorating ancient prison Unless confirmed, I don't think we should assume that all things are intrinsically linked, or that they're both deteriorating for the exact same reasons.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Jun 18, 2024 19:58:06 GMT
I must admit that the whole "Solas was the good guy after all" is a bit shit. And not really in line with DAI/T. I'm not sure why I'm still caring after the gameplay reveal, but maybe I'm hoping a more dedicated m/kb interface might rescue it a bit.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 18, 2024 19:58:31 GMT
Didn't one if the devs say Inquisition was only half the story? Now we're getting the second half, only with someone new, for some reason. That was David Gaider after he handed over lead writer to Patrick Weekes and basically said: "Good luck buddy, you're going to need it." So long as they tell the rest of the story in this game, I can understand if they decided to make a few adjustments along the way.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jun 18, 2024 20:01:32 GMT
Mages' block ability uses Mana Love that. Can you imagine, a DA mage-flavoured version of MEA's 'Backlash' biotic ability? Gawd... I love me a Force-Field spell! ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png)
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jun 18, 2024 20:04:17 GMT
Lol. Tha article praises the art style changing from grimdark to whimsical Fable-esque style. That's going to be controversial. Although that mostly seems to be Arlathan Forest. I can hear the screams already.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 20:05:33 GMT
I must admit that the whole "Solas was the good guy after all" is a bit shit. And not really in line with DAI/T. I'm not sure why I'm still caring after the gameplay reveal, but maybe I'm hoping a more dedicated m/kb interface might rescue it a bit. Whether it's in line with DAI/T has been a matter of fierce debate for the last 10 years ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/elVHKRxPverbDpfdrrFs.png) Needless to say, redeemers feel a little bit validated after today, even if there's still A TON we don't yet know, and a lot of twists and turns that can happen in DAVe. Let us wait and see. They kept elements of this story vague/ambiguous for a reason.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 18, 2024 20:06:27 GMT
Unless confirmed, I don't think we should assume that all things are intrinsically linked, or that they're both deteriorating for the exact same reasons. Both were created using elven magic and some parts of it had been badly damaged by the creation of the Veil. Didn't Mike Gamble say something about the elves used lyrium to create their structures? Perhaps its efficacy only lasts so long, millennia long, but finite none the less. That's probably why he wants to drop the Veil because he needs to recharge the magic sustaining the structures. It isn't such a daft idea that if one bit of elven magic is failing, likely the other bits created with the same sort of elven magic are too.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 18, 2024 20:06:55 GMT
Come to think of it I've never thought of Solas from a perspective of not romancing him. He must be insufferable for those who want nothing to do with him!! ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Sike now he can haunt your dreams and give you advice ![:wub:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/scRQRZMETVOTXDUFItkV.png) If we actually get to roleplay, it’s much more a curse for him than for us. He’ll be stuck alone in the Fade with the only person he can talk to being like this:
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 18, 2024 20:09:03 GMT
I must admit that the whole "Solas was the good guy after all" is a bit shit. And not really in line with DAI/T. I'm not sure why I'm still caring after the gameplay reveal, but maybe I'm hoping a more dedicated m/kb interface might rescue it a bit. Don’t see where it is said he’s a good guy. He is still someone who was committing atrocities. Every villain is the hero of their own story and all that.
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Post by Reznore on Jun 18, 2024 20:09:55 GMT
Come to think of it I've never thought of Solas from a perspective of not romancing him. He must be insufferable for those who want nothing to do with him!! ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/iAAocWiXpMcWriqYLqLB.png) Sike now he can haunt your dreams and give you advice ![:wub:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/NptONdnerQHlGfeyKRLn.png) If we actually get to roleplay, it’s much more a curse for him than for us. He’ll be stuck alone in the Fade with the only person he can talk to being like this: We'll be in Solas house, with our babe, our friends, our loot, saving the world. While he was there like a sad sack who burnt all of his bridges planning something that failed again. And he will be trapped in the fade watching. I almost feel bad for him. "Regret" alright.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 18, 2024 20:10:24 GMT
Unless confirmed, I don't think we should assume that all things are intrinsically linked, or that they're both deteriorating for the exact same reasons. Both were created using elven magic and some parts of it had been badly damaged by the creation of the Veil. Didn't Mike Gamble say something about the elves used lyrium to create their structures? Perhaps its efficacy only lasts so long, millennia long, but finite none the less. That's probably why he wants to drop the Veil because he needs to recharge the magic sustaining the structures. It isn't such a daft idea that if one bit of elven magic is failing, likely the other bits created with the same sort of elven magic likely are too. Elven magic =/= same magic that has locked Evanuris away And some parts have been badly damaged by creation of the Veil, because the Veil has pushed magic away from the physical world and messed with people's connection to it. So it's an effect of the Veil, but not one that is necessarily related to the strength of Evanuris prison. It could fail for aa variety of different reasons, including maybe the destruction of Solas' orb, or something related to the Blights and Archdemons.
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