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Post by godkingsarevok on Sept 21, 2024 13:45:56 GMT
Depends on whatever their youtube masters tell them on that particular day. Personally I hope it's a delightful potpourri of Super Smash Bros Melee, Night Trap, and Sim City 3000, with a dash of Barbie Horse Adventures. But the downgrading of feminine women in games is a thing, and many people are sick of it. Lol Isn't that the entire point of fantasy games, to make a more attractive version of yourself No. So it's to create ugly characters then?
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 14:14:35 GMT
Gamers will complain about 'Mary Sues' and 'self-inserts' in movies but then think the entire point of playing an rpg is to create one.
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Post by godkingsarevok on Sept 21, 2024 14:18:26 GMT
Yeah I have no idea what you're going on about.
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Post by jennica on Sept 21, 2024 14:22:26 GMT
I feel like at this point it's better for mods to just close this thread.
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Post by godkingsarevok on Sept 21, 2024 14:40:01 GMT
I feel like at this point it's better for mods to just close this tread. Odd that, I always thought discussion forums were for discussing. People are allowed to have differing opinions. Or at least it use to be that way.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 14:43:31 GMT
Literally 1984.
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Post by jennica on Sept 21, 2024 15:06:59 GMT
I feel like at this point it's better for mods to just close this tread. Odd that, I always thought discussion forums were for discussing. People are allowed to have differing opinions. Or at least it use to be that way. I'm all for discussions, nor do i have a problem with people who have different opinions or are dissapointed about various aspects of DAVe, as long as they're not being assholes about it. But this kind of topics always devolve into people insulting each other and speaking over each other, rather then having a conversation. And it doesn't help that OP felt the need to mention surgical scars for some reason.
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Post by fraggle on Sept 21, 2024 15:14:11 GMT
I was about to post everything of that!!! You spared me the time and effort, haha.
I also remember seeing/reading somewhere that devs worked a long time to make sure clipping issues weren't happening too often, so I too thought it might be the sole issue to not have boobs that could suffocate their lover when putting their face between them. Sorry Or there could be other reasons. We simply don't know.
Besides, the women that were shown so far were ABSOLUTELY stunning. I can't deal with this world anymore, honestly People complain about women being "too manly", not "pretty enough" etc in videogames. Not everyone is pretty in real life, geez.
Isn't that the entire point of fantasy games, to make a more attractive version of yourself because in real life you just aren't that pretty? Make the body you wish you had, women give themselves bigger boobs and a nicer ass, men give themselves more muscles and a better beard. And yes creating overly sexual female characters is something that will be done by men, there is no problem with that. Hell nah. I never play myself, I can be myself in real life. I know though that some people aim to "improve" themselves as a fictional character. Which is great if they want to do that, but if there's no option for it, maybe just accept it.
There is no problem if men want to create the woman of their dreams, no. But if it's not possible in some games, why must that be a bad thing? Play the game that allows it? Or try the game that doesn't allow it and find something else in that game that's interesting to you? Most games have far more to offer than just being a date simulator.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 15:14:20 GMT
And it doesn't help that OP felt the need to mention surgical scars for some reason. We know why.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Sept 21, 2024 16:41:14 GMT
You have to make accommodations for the wider public too as these are the people that will ultimately make or break the game whether you like it or not. Would you happily see Bioware crash and burn merely to make a statement.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 17:02:56 GMT
"make a statement"
"agenda"
"downgrading of feminine women"
"western developers"
We just need "DEI", "THE MESSAGE", and "politics" for my bingo card.
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Post by necrowaif on Sept 21, 2024 17:53:04 GMT
“I gave my Rook one hell of an ass.”
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 21, 2024 17:59:15 GMT
Is it confirmed or something that plus sized woman aren’t possible? It isn't. We're limited by the footage that was recorded at the previews. Body type appears to be a factor. - - - - And I'm sure once we reach the point that the thread starts melting, someone will let the mods know.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 18:05:12 GMT
Literally unplayable.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 21, 2024 18:41:22 GMT
Kinda sad to see the long flowing feminine hair get derailed because of so called surgical scars and you can’t make a butt as large as you want. The outrage machine is working overtime to generate anything lol.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 21, 2024 18:46:31 GMT
Gamers will complain about 'Mary Sues' and 'self-inserts' in movies but then think the entire point of playing an rpg is to create one. I was searching for the comment about creating yourself in games since I never do it either... But this response is better then anything I could ever come up with.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 21, 2024 19:17:27 GMT
I’m not interested in self inserts, and I don’t have interest in looking to character creator for titillation, but what I will say is it’s normal to want to see facets of yourself reflected in your character. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, especially not in an rpg that is often about power fantasy.
Also, robust body shapes in CC can let you go deeper in designing your character. I already mentioned it, but one character concept I’m toying with is an out of shape, academic mage whose talent for magic mitigates physical decencies. All CCs inherently face limitations, although mods can usually help you circumvent those issues if that’s what you really want. But there also really aren’t many CCs with character driven narrative and lots of options for bodies. BG3 was very limited in body shapes and Dragon’s Dogma did not have a great story. Maybe Fallout 4 or Starfield can qualify, but they come with their own baggage. Putting it into that perspective makes me go pretty easy on any potential deficiencies.
(Except qunari lol. That one still stings.)
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Post by godkingsarevok on Sept 21, 2024 19:59:14 GMT
“I gave my Rook one hell of an ass.” One hell of a flat ass.
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Post by bierkrug on Sept 21, 2024 20:03:41 GMT
And I'm sure once we reach the point that the thread starts melting, someone will let the mods know. Snitches get stitches
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Post by duskwanderer on Sept 21, 2024 20:34:41 GMT
If the character creator is as robust as they say, I better be able to make anything I want.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 21:14:19 GMT
If I can't cover my Rook's balls with glitter, the west has fallen
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Post by biggydx on Sept 21, 2024 21:28:05 GMT
Play on PC. There are always mods to help you create your ideal character. I've just reinstalled Inquisition last night and I plan on trying out a couple cosmetic mods for a change. Time to do my final playthrough and get ready for the Veilguard. I'm not saying this to question your mod choices, but if mods like this are on Nexus and are - presumably - popular, I don't know how in the hell people who use these specific mods can bitch about how smooth the faces are. There isn't a single line, crinkle, or dip in any of these faces.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 21, 2024 21:45:14 GMT
I just think people are focusing on the wrong things. Body hair for the men, that’s what’s important. Bush slider, now! Or we riot.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 21, 2024 22:01:46 GMT
It’s funny how YouTube has been inundated with videos titled like “Why Players Hate Dragon Age’s Woke / DEI Character Creator”, “BioWare’s weird fetish with top surgery scars”, and “BioWare wages war against womanly curves”, all of a sudden, after yesterday’s massive success. Honey, they are getting desperate… 🙄 Dude, I don't care about the scars they're optional so I can ignore it. But the downgrading of feminine women in games is a thing, and many people are sick of it.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 21, 2024 22:11:29 GMT
Real talk, though: there is a conversation to be had about, for example, armors/clothing that are a bit more feminine and not so ill-fitting and shapeless; and other stuff like, the fact that our protagonist always uses male animations (it’s claimed to be “neutral”, but we all know it’s really not) - that, unless it’s a game with a female protagonist by default (Tomb Raider, Control…) - very generally speaking, it always seems to favor the straight white male player yada yada. That’s my honest feeling about it, my experience playing these games for like over a decade now.
I just don’t know if this thread is the place to have that convo, I don’t really trust the intent of it, no offense.
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