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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 23, 2024 8:23:58 GMT
I think Divine Cassandra break up with Inky, no? It's complicated. I don't recall she ever officially did as much in game. You are left with a sort of courtly love scenario where you cannot continue the physical side any more but there is still a chaste love between them. However, to circumvent this possibility, when I romanced Cassandra I made a point of not voting for her as Divine and opting for a softened Leliana instead. Whilst I don't think we ever actually marry (thanks Varric for that excruciatingly embarrassing scene with Cassandra in Trespasser) but we do remain devoted to one another and I assume lovers since very little had changed from the Inquisition. So, if I had made her Divine then perhaps she would have broken it off, probably in that infamous scene as a result Varric's little joke.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 8:25:47 GMT
Don't tell me I completed those Astrariums for nothing.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 23, 2024 8:31:48 GMT
I'm disappointed the Well of sorrows decision isn't here, they could have done something cool with that since Morrigan and inqy are both present as npcs, but not necessarily surprised. Are we sure about that? May be it isn't on the front screen for the Inquisitor. I would be very surprised if that decision didn't feature given how they have brought back Morrigan, so it would be entirely possible to integrate it into the narrative. I originally thought the Well of Sorrows would not feature because they didn't intend bringing her back. However, I suppose they might use her presence to explain why it was no longer important. For example, if she admits to possession by Mythal, perhaps she negated the geas on the Inquisitor, which would simultaneously free her priesthood from assisting them, since Mythal did not want them disclosing information she would rather they didn't. It is disappointing if it doesn't feature considering Solas made such a big deal out of it if you did drink. Is it really not going to be any more significant than reading a few ancient texts and knowing the password to his sanctuary in Trespasser?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 23, 2024 8:37:58 GMT
Don't tell me I completed those Astrariums for nothing. What about collecting all those frigging shards? When I saw that the Temple of Solassan was actually included in the Keep I made a point of collecting them, even though I bitterly resented being forced to use those occulara after I discovered the horrific way they were made. Accessing some of the shards involved a lot of swearing at times because they were so inaccessible and difficult to obtain. Finally, I reached the inner sanctum when I was way overpowered for the boss we found there and the other rewards and codex associated with it were somewhat underwhelming. Surely, there had to be a significance later on somewhere? Apparently not. Perhaps it was quests like this, not just collecting countless elfroot or laying flowers on a grave, that made them ensure that side missions were actually integrated into the narrative in DA:V.
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Post by merane on Sept 23, 2024 13:04:49 GMT
Iron Bull romance. Unromanced Inquisitor. Wow. I wonder if this invalidates anyone who chose to romance Qun-Loyal Bull. Also, I am starting to wonder if I should adjust my canon romance. My Inquisitor romanced Blackwall, but she was rather harsh in judgments and decisions (and she was consistent about it), so she left Blackwall to Orlesian justice. I wonder if I will be satisfied with the no-romance background. For consistency's sake, I don't know that I could have her release him. I suspect she would break up with Ranier during the judgment, so it would still be a no-romance "tile." Hmmm.... Honestly I had completely forgotten at the time that we could romance IB and not have chosen the chargers! I will remain optimistic and tell myself that the text may change, that loyalty to the Qun of IB will be demanded ! Same thing for Well of Sorrows Otherwise it would really suck.
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Post by Croatsky on Sept 23, 2024 14:14:58 GMT
Genuinely upsetting if this is actual final product of CC with Inquisitor, really indicates they'll have even less presence in DAVG than Hawke in DAI.
I see a lot people blame live service development on social media, but most don't realize that BioWare decided how DAVG will started the moment they finished working on Trespasser DLC. Meaning whole lot of reasoning BioWare devs are making for bunch of major DAI choices not taking effect in DAVG( along with none at all from DAO and DA2) have been decided upon in 2015, when Joplin project started out.
Seriously, I'm very frustrated with BioWare being terrified of importing feature they created, especially with Dragon Age! Each game has new protagonist, like any old information can be presented new to both protagonist and player, as well start new relations with old characters and factions.
In Mass Effect they committed to importing, especially as it's same protagonist entire trilogy and carrying old relations even to brand new game defaults. And it worked out! Why are they so terrified???
Yes I know about market research how they lose potential sales of new players who feel intimidated they need to play previous titles, but how much did that really effect Mass Effect trilogy? And as I said before, Dragon Age always goes with new protagonist, so it ought to be a less of an issue and yet BioWare seems even more terrified with Dragon Age to commit to importing!
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Post by tmjfin on Sept 23, 2024 14:59:15 GMT
Small spoilers indeed... If this really is it, I hope BioWare tells this before the launch. I wouldn't want this kind of surprise while creating my first character. I thought it would be at least the big decision from all the past games, even if most of them were only for "flavor". Nothing like Keep of course, but 10-20 decisions.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 15:02:44 GMT
Don't tell me I completed those Astrariums for nothing. The shards! Don't forget about the shards!
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 15:03:51 GMT
Small spoilers indeed... If this really is it, I hope BioWare tells this before the launch. I wouldn't want this kind of surprise while creating my first character. I thought it would be at least the big decision from all the past games, even if most of them were only for "flavor". Nothing like Keep of course, but 10-20 decisions. So, this is a single still of a 5 page customize world state. I really, really doubt it's just 3 choices. And it really says PAST ADVENTURES.
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Post by tmjfin on Sept 23, 2024 15:05:16 GMT
Small spoilers indeed... If this really is it, I hope BioWare tells this before the launch. I wouldn't want this kind of surprise while creating my first character. I thought it would be at least the big decision from all the past games, even if most of them were only for "flavor". Nothing like Keep of course, but 10-20 decisions. So, this is a single still of a 5 page customize world state. I really, really doubt it's just 3 choices. And it really says PAST ADVENTURES. Really hope so 😅
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 15:07:32 GMT
So, this is a single still of a 5 page customize world state. I really, really doubt it's just 3 choices. And it really says PAST ADVENTURES. Really hope so 😅 They also said they're was going to be "previously on" with Varric as the narrator.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 23, 2024 15:09:44 GMT
From what I've gathered one devs said before there was no who died in the Fade choice in DATV. The German review site from where this screenshot was taken confirmed there's no Divine choice, no who's sitting on Orlesian Throne etc..and that fans might be disappointed.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 23, 2024 15:12:09 GMT
How is my import going to take into account that Lady Trevelyan started a vineyard in Antiva with her wife Josephine, spending lazy days bottling her own wine, all set to The Godfather love theme? How will the game know her aetherpunk arm comes with a built-in corkscrew?
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Sept 23, 2024 15:13:02 GMT
Don't tell me I completed those Astrariums for nothing. The shards! Don't forget about the shards! Am I the only one who made sure I collected all the mosaics?
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Post by tmjfin on Sept 23, 2024 15:14:29 GMT
They also said they're was going to be "previously on" with Varric as the narrator. Yeah, I know. So in the worst case scenario Verric will tell a grand tale of the Inquisitor "Inqusitor Lavellan loved Dorian very much and disbanded the Inquisition to help his good friend Solas" the end 😅 But I digress, I've already pre-order both ce:s and deluxe edition of the game, so if it goes like this I will be disappointed, but will still play the shit out of The Veilguard.
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Post by IllustriousT on Sept 23, 2024 15:31:22 GMT
The shards! Don't forget about the shards! Am I the only one who made sure I collected all the mosaics? You are not. I collected everything in a "lore through" in which I made it a point to collect, do , and read everything 100%. I will never do that again, but glad I did do it at least once!
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Post by luketrevelyan on Sept 23, 2024 15:42:59 GMT
Hmm...for BioWare to not permit reviewers to show this section I think it boils down to 2 scenarios 1. These really are all the imported choices and they didn't want negative press about it OR 2. BioWare is hiding some things because they would be spoiler-y to events in Veilguard
Maybe a third scenario where they are still working on this section of the CC but I feel like that is unlikely.
Otherwise I can't see why they would restrict reviewers from showing this because the choices we do see are the ones most people already knew/expected would play a role in the game. So nothing spoiler-y IMO in those few choices. Which maybe is why they showed those few but could have still hidden others, and didn't want reviewers to talk about it because they were seeing an incomplete screen?
I want to believe it is scenario #2 and we'll be pleasantly surprised when we boot up the game but I am definitely preparing myself for scenario #1.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 15:51:22 GMT
Thinking about the main choices in Inqusition: did you choose the Mages or Templars? Who is king or queen of Oralis(I know I spelled that wrong)? Who drank from the well? What did you do with the Inqusition and how did you treat Solas? That's barely a handful when you think about.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 23, 2024 16:04:27 GMT
Genuinely upsetting if this is actual final product of CC with Inquisitor, really indicates they'll have even less presence in DAVG than Hawke in DAI. I see a lot people blame live service development on social media, but most don't realize that BioWare decided how DAVG will started the moment they finished working on Trespasser DLC. Meaning whole lot of reasoning BioWare devs are making for bunch of major DAI choices not taking effect in DAVG( along with none at all from DAO and DA2) have been decided upon in 2015, when Joplin project started out. Seriously, I'm very frustrated with BioWare being terrified of importing feature they created, especially with Dragon Age! Each game has new protagonist, like any old information can be presented new to both protagonist and player, as well start new relations with old characters and factions. In Mass Effect they committed to importing, especially as it's same protagonist entire trilogy and carrying old relations even to brand new game defaults. And it worked out! Why are they so terrified??? Yes I know about market research how they lose potential sales of new players who feel intimidated they need to play previous titles, but how much did that really effect Mass Effect trilogy? And as I said before, Dragon Age always goes with new protagonist, so it ought to be a less of an issue and yet BioWare seems even more terrified with Dragon Age to commit to importing! It's worth noting that Mass Effect trilogy all came out on the same engine and in relative short time frame from each other. Dragon Age has gone through massive engine changes and long dev cycles, which is always going to make porting over save files more difficult. And while I love the Keep, it really is clunky, so I understand why they wanted to move away from it.
Still, hopefully Luke is onto something and several choices are being held back or haven't been fully implemented yet. That would be a pleasant surprise. Like I said, I don't need a lot. But it'd be nice to touch base on the big decisions, especially when those big decisions involve returning characters.
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Post by IllustriousT on Sept 23, 2024 16:14:09 GMT
Thinking about the main choices in Inqusition: did you choose the Mages or Templars? Who is king or queen of Oralis(I know I spelled that wrong)? Who drank from the well? What did you do with the Inqusition and how did you treat Solas? That's barely a handful when you think about. For me, it's more than just the decisions in Inquisition that I will mourn. We are going to Weisshaupt. While I don't expect the HoF to be there, it would be nice to have history molded based on our decisions regarding the HoF's fate. They and Alistair are technically the only Wardens that "could" be alive with experience in that area. Experience will be greatly valuable and it will be the only time in the history of Thedas that two blights occur close enough for that experience to count for something. Also, depending on the choices that the Inquisitor makes, the Wardens are exiled from Southern Thedas. It just seems like this should be important in Veilguard.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 16:21:48 GMT
Thinking about the main choices in Inqusition: did you choose the Mages or Templars? Who is king or queen of Oralis(I know I spelled that wrong)? Who drank from the well? What did you do with the Inqusition and how did you treat Solas? That's barely a handful when you think about. For me, it's more than just the decisions in Inquisition that I will mourn. We are going to Weisshaupt. While I don't expect the HoF to be there, it would be nice to have history molded based on our decisions regarding the HoF's fate. They and Alistair are technically the only Wardens that "could" be alive with experience in that area. Experience will be greatly valuable and it will be the only time in the history of Thedas that two blights occur close enough for that experience to count for something. Also, depending on the choices that the Inquisitor makes, the Wardens are exiled from Southern Thedas. It just seems like this should be important in Veilguard. Well Grey Wardens are in the game, and I think regardless of your choice there's still friction amongst the Wardens that the Inquisitor didn't do.
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Post by Mresa on Sept 23, 2024 16:28:30 GMT
Can't say I'm suprised how few previous choices there are. It has never been Bioware's greatest streght to have choices other than the few major ones matter, and then some side character making an appearance but they were just extra for flair and not contributing really to the major events.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 23, 2024 16:37:56 GMT
Thinking about the main choices in Inqusition: did you choose the Mages or Templars? Who is king or queen of Oralis(I know I spelled that wrong)? Who drank from the well? What did you do with the Inqusition and how did you treat Solas? That's barely a handful when you think about. For me, it's more than just the decisions in Inquisition that I will mourn. We are going to Weisshaupt. While I don't expect the HoF to be there, it would be nice to have history molded based on our decisions regarding the HoF's fate. They and Alistair are technically the only Wardens that "could" be alive with experience in that area. Experience will be greatly valuable and it will be the only time in the history of Thedas that two blights occur close enough for that experience to count for something. Also, depending on the choices that the Inquisitor makes, the Wardens are exiled from Southern Thedas. It just seems like this should be important in Veilguard. HoF and Alistair should at best be ghouls 20 years later. The Orlesian Wardens always go back to Weisshaupt. the exiled go back during DAI, the recruited after DAI ended. There is always rumor of rebellion too. That choice was already unfied by DAI ending slides and it's been 10 years and the exile wasn't permanent (the Inquisition is not Orlais).
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Post by IllustriousT on Sept 23, 2024 16:51:21 GMT
For me, it's more than just the decisions in Inquisition that I will mourn. We are going to Weisshaupt. While I don't expect the HoF to be there, it would be nice to have history molded based on our decisions regarding the HoF's fate. They and Alistair are technically the only Wardens that "could" be alive with experience in that area. Experience will be greatly valuable and it will be the only time in the history of Thedas that two blights occur close enough for that experience to count for something. Also, depending on the choices that the Inquisitor makes, the Wardens are exiled from Southern Thedas. It just seems like this should be important in Veilguard. HoF and Alistair should at best be ghouls 20 years later. The Orlesian Wardens always go back to Weisshaupt. the exiled go back during DAI, the recruited after DAI ended. There is always rumor of rebellion too. That choice was already unfied by DAI ending slides and it's been 10 years and the exile wasn't permanent (the Inquisition is not Orlais). I understand that, but I mean via references when communicating with those at Weisshaupt. I don't think we would see the HoF, if alive. A reference to their fate should definitely be included. According to The Last Flight, it is clear the Wardens do care about their history and if they can learn from past decisions and mistakes from those in the past. The HoF would have valuable information and it would be relatively new. The throw away "they went in search of a cure" could be important if used correctly - what did they learn? Or "they sacrificed themselves..." Could have a wall or plaque as a memorial for their sacrifice. A Wardens sacrifice is just as important no matter where it happened. As for Inquisition, they may have gone back and the civil strife was probably resolved. 10 years is a long time, especially when writing events in Thedas. Ex. No other Blight lasted shorter than the one we coincidentally were able to experience - and with far fewer allies.
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Post by bierkrug on Sept 23, 2024 17:26:20 GMT
From what I've gathered one devs said before there was no who died in the Fade choice in DATV. The German review site from where this screenshot was taken confirmed there's no Divine choice, no who's sitting on Orlesian Throne etc..and that fans might be disappointed. Which site was it? Gamestar?
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