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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 15:34:24 GMT
Sorry for the clickbaiting Threadtitle but in my opinion the Inquisition choices aka the Keep replacement is very disappointing.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 22, 2024 15:42:40 GMT
That's what I was expecting. The blurb before hands said it was minor and you could skip it cos it will have little impact on the overall story. So Inky is just showing up to show up, solve whatever they say they would be doing at the end of Trespasser and poof bye.
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Post by IllustriousT on Sept 22, 2024 15:45:32 GMT
Sorry for the clickbaiting Threadtitle but opinions regarding the Inquisition choices aka the Keep replacement is very disappointing. While that does seem disappointing, I would ask that the title be spoiler so those avoiding these will know not to click. I had no idea what this could be about. In any case, I will add that Bioware's ability to make decisions carry over has always been one of their strong suits. I'm not too keen on the idea of them reducing that - though I also understand the increase costs all those additional resources add up to be. Still...It has always given me a reason to replay the games multiple times and given me that giddy excitement to see "how" all those decisions will play out.
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Post by akrabra on Sept 22, 2024 15:45:42 GMT
Nothing about the well? Or Divine? Fairly limited. I dont mind not using the keep as we are going North, but a bit more fleshed out at the least.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 15:46:49 GMT
That's what I was expecting. The blurb before hands said it was minor and you could skip it cos it will have little impact on the overall story. So Inky is just showing up to show up, solve whatever they say they would be doing at the end of Trespasser and poof bye. Also i doubt that the Inquisitor will add Rook in combat like Hawke because there isn´t a mention of the class.
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Post by isaidlunch on Sept 22, 2024 15:48:08 GMT
Damn
I imagined all these years that the Well decision would have major consequences. Seems like a wasted opportunity
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 15:49:15 GMT
While that does seem disappointing, I would ask that the title be spoiler so those avoiding these will know not to click. I had no idea what this could be about. I am not sure if those are considered to be Spoiler if the player can recreate them at the start of the game. But ok i change it.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 15:53:33 GMT
Nothing about the well? Or Divine? Fairly limited. I dont mind not using the keep as we are going North, but a bit more fleshed out at the least. Yeah those two i never would had imagined that those aren´t in Veilguard as options. That´s very disappointing and kinda bad.
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Post by godkingsarevok on Sept 22, 2024 15:55:51 GMT
So Morrigan is returning but the decision regarding the well is not imported, interesting but not surprising.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 22, 2024 15:57:59 GMT
So Morrigan is returning but the decision regarding the well is not imported, interesting but not surprising. If she's got a piece of Mythal soul, it doesn't really matter if she drank from the Well. If Mythal is declared dead and gone, killed by Solas. It doesn't matter if anyone drank from the Well. If Mythal has zero need to boss around the Inky, it doesn't matter if they drank.
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Post by Envisionary on Sept 22, 2024 16:05:11 GMT
No Well, no Kieran, nothing about the Wardens decision even though we're going to Weisshaupt, not even a mention of who the Divine is. It really is just going to be "the Divine, the Orlesian crown, the Ferelden crown"
They had 10 years. What are the excuses? These are wild levels of dropping the ball.
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Post by Guardian on Sept 22, 2024 16:06:57 GMT
I want to say this is surprising, but given the "choices" we "imported" about Shepard from MET to Andromeda, I'm not surprised this is all we're given. I was expecting slightly more, but this just feels more and more like what we did don't matter in these games anymore.
Regarding the well, Reznore already touched upon it - that's probably why it's not a "factor". It's now irrelevant who drank from it; Mythal/Flemmeth is gone, as is anyone that would have been tied to it.
Disappointing, but somehow, not shocking.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 16:07:03 GMT
So Morrigan is returning but the decision regarding the well is not imported, interesting but not surprising. If she's got a piece of Mythal soul, it doesn't really matter if she drank from the Well. If Mythal is declared dead and gone, killed by Solas. It doesn't matter if anyone drank from the Well. If Mythal has zero need to boss around the Inky, it doesn't matter if they drank. Come on this a bit cheap. Sure its an explanation but this should have make a few references in the dialogues with Morrigan and / or the Inquisitor.
Edit: By the way this confirmes that we won´t see Blackwall, Cullen and the Iron Bull in the games because there aren´t any options for those. To be fair Cullen and Bull won´t have returned because of the drama with their english voice actors.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Sept 22, 2024 16:12:05 GMT
this really adds to my fear of the game being a visual novel more than an rpg, I mean, if there's no choice for the well, or divine, you have to question why, but also, what about Morrigan's potential son? Has he been retconned too? There's so many choices in The Keep that would have been important
getting less & less excited about this game & giving serious thought to actually not buying it, or if I do, way into the future when its on sale, we'll see
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 16:16:44 GMT
I mean, if there's no choice for the well, or divine, you have to question why Well you could explain that for most Thedas the three Divines are always Divine Victoria at the end but that´s pretty lame. Who knows he is an Origins choice so lets hope he is one. No i don´t think that we will see Kieran but his mother aka Morrigan should mention him in a few of her dialogues.
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Post by jennica on Sept 22, 2024 16:17:18 GMT
So Inky is just showing up to show up, solve whatever they say they would be doing at the end of Trespasser and poof bye. I'm also disappointed that so little are getting imported, but it doesn't mean that Inquisitiors involvement will be almost non existent. I mean, i don't think it will be big, because they're not main character anymore, but i at least expect it to be like Hawke.
What i find interesting tho is that since we can specify our LI, it means that Inky will at the very least talk about them like Hawke did in DAI. However, Cassandra can be made a Divine and i can't imagine that inquisitor won't mention it.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 22, 2024 16:17:44 GMT
I didn't need a lot of choices, but I'm disappointed that what's there is so bare bones. I mean I suspected Divine might be hand waved, since Leliana is a choice and she also can go poof in one of the slides, but it still leaves me sad. I never really needed sweeping changes, what I liked about past games was all the little details that came together to make the world as a whole feel more alive, more different depending on the choices my past characters made. Oh well.
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Post by duskwanderer on Sept 22, 2024 16:20:21 GMT
Yeah. Since so much of this has Grey Warden/darkspawn involvement, I was really hoping for a Bethany/Carver since they can be Wardens.
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Post by IllustriousT on Sept 22, 2024 16:25:07 GMT
While that does seem disappointing, I would ask that the title be spoiler so those avoiding these will know not to click. I had no idea what this could be about. I am not sure if those are considered to be Spoiler if the player can recreate them at the start of the game. But ok i change it. Very much appreciated. It's mostly for those who would want to see this the first when they launch the game.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 16:25:15 GMT
Yeah. Since so much of this has Grey Warden/darkspawn involvement, I was really hoping for a Bethany/Carver since they can be Wardens. Those screenshots are about Inquisition. The fate of Bethany / Carver are DA 2 choices so again who knows...but to be fair with that amount of different outcomes plus their different face options they won´t appear in person and only getting mentioned like in Inquisition. But Nathaniel yeah i would miss deeply if he won´t even be an option.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 22, 2024 16:27:10 GMT
Another day, another thing we don't know enough about to hyperventilate over. The post-content creator hands-on afterglow going as well as I expected.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 22, 2024 16:30:20 GMT
Very much appreciated. It's mostly for those who would want to see this the first when they launch the game. I change this but to be honest i believe this was wrong move because people should know before that their expectations regarding the previous choices won´t be that huge as previous titles. And again we are not talking about a Veilguard story spoiler but the options in character editor.
Another day, another thing we don't know enough about to hyperventilate over. The post-content creator hands-on afterglow going as well as I expected. What are you talking about? The import choices for Inquisition are very slim and there very disappointing. So for the Inquisition choices we are know more than enough. But to be fair not the choices are for DAO / DAA and DA 2 but regarding those few for Inquisition this won´t be that many.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 22, 2024 16:32:05 GMT
So Inky is just showing up to show up, solve whatever they say they would be doing at the end of Trespasser and poof bye. I'm also disappointed that so little are getting imported, but it doesn't mean that Inquisitiors involvement will be almost non existent. I mean, i don't think it will be big, because they're not main character anymore, but i at least expect it to be like Hawke.
What i find interesting tho is that since we can specify our LI, it means that Inky will at the very least talk about them like Hawke did in DAI. However, Cassandra can be made a Divine and i can't imagine that inquisitor won't mention it.
From what I saw before you get to the Inquisition screen, during normal CC you got a button and little blurb about the "import", basically it says it's minor choices that will have a minor impact on DATV and it's entirely skippable. I think Divine Cassandra break up with Inky, no?
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Post by isaidlunch on Sept 22, 2024 16:38:50 GMT
Another day, another thing we don't know enough about to hyperventilate over. The post-content creator hands-on afterglow going as well as I expected. The writing was on the wall when the content creators said they were specifically forbidden from talking about this
If there's more to it then Bioware may want to correct the record very quickly
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 22, 2024 16:52:08 GMT
That's what I was expecting. The blurb before hands said it was minor and you could skip it cos it will have little impact on the overall story. So Inky is just showing up to show up, solve whatever they say they would be doing at the end of Trespasser and poof bye. Also i doubt that the Inquisitor will add Rook in combat like Hawke because there isn´t a mention of the class.
Are you really sure that is all and that this is not just a template so that we can see what it looks like? From what i recall they don't say one question in the q&a.
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