Why Geth and Quarians won't be in Andromeda and why you should be ok with it.

In your world all glory belongs to the Krogans and Humans

I like that

I'm not so sure we will se Quarians show up in game, not when so many others are confirmed. But they may mention them being in the Nexus or another ark. Making it possible for them to appear in later installments.

This is becoming increasingly convoluted.  Preposterous, even.

It's going like this:

1 - We need Mass Relays just to reach other solar systems, but now all of a sudden we can travel to Andromeda without them
2 - We sent ARKs full of people to explore Andromeda
3 - Before the ARKs, we sent the Nexus to a pretermined location
4 - We determined that location from Sensors which can apparently detect things beyond the limitations of physics
5 - Before the Nexus, we sent a bunch of Mass Relays to predetermined locations to make it easier for the ARKs to get around
6 - Before the Mass Relays, we sent a bunch of Pyjaks to primitive planets so that by the time you arrive they will have evolved into cavemen that you can interact with
7 - Before the Pyjaks, we sent a bunch of Banana Trees to those planets so that the Pyjaks would have something to eat
8 - Before the Banana Trees, we sent a bunch of Robots to prepare the Banana Tree Gardens and plant the Banana Trees
9 - Before the Robots, we sent a bunch of Robot Maintenance Factories to make sure the Robots remain functional during your trip on the ARKs.
10 - Those Robot Maintenance Factories come in dehydrated capsules, just add water and POOF there they are.

This could go on and on.

1. Standard AIs may need quantum bluebox technology, but geth aren't your standard AIs. They achieve sapience through linking with other non-sapient programs until reaching sufficient "mass". Geth are more compatible to a single organic brain, with each program being akin to a neuron, all coming together to form something greater than the whole. This also means that the geth are effectively like a single person in a lot of ways, rather than a species. Very interesting stuff. Anyway, I'm sure you know all that, I just wanted to address the bluebox thing. And since they can also inhabit the consensus without platforms, so maybe there is another reason they can't just upload anywhere and everywhere.

2. It's not a bad idea logically, but I think going through all that trouble just to have the geth end up as target practice one again would be a colossal waste. I also think it would be out-of-character for the non-heretic geth. I would totally like a mission like that were the geth were not trying to kill any organics, though.

The volus could have definitely provided serious financial backing for the project, but you have to ask yourself: Why would they? If we're keeping with the "greedy businesspeople" stereotype/Hat, then where is the return of investment for a project like the Andromeda Initiative? I can't see any, considering it's a one-way trip. Yes, the orientation site mentioned some BS about eventually establishing a trade route between galaxies, but that makes absolutely no sense, and even if it did, I doubt that kind of money-oriented person would bother with it if it wouldn't even be done within their lifetime.

The next problem is that the economy in Andromeda will probably end up being completely different that in the Milky Way, and the volus having tons of cash might translate into basically nothing of value.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying there shouldn't be any volus. I want as many of the MW species as possible to show up. I'm just not sure about the financial aspect unless a few adventurous high-rollers decide they want to help build the project and go along for the ride.

Don't bother. I am pretty sure it was explained before and besides it's really not hard a book or some articles on the net about it. Some people aren't interested in any kind of logic if it goes against their dogmatic belief.

I just need a Volus financial advisor and a Quarian to say Bosh'tet and I'm Swayze.

11 - Before the Dehydrated Robot Maintenance Facilities, we sent a Frozen Human Baby to be discovered and raised by the Pyjaks.  "Sparzan" will teach the Pyjaks about Humans, and get them accustomed to Human presence, but mostly because we just thought the idea of having Space Tarzan was pretty cool.

First, I'm going to get this out of the way. Peebee <sigh> does sound similar to Sera. That is a mixed thing for me. It depends upon how this asari is written. I don't mind someone a bit of a brat that can be cheerful about it. I didn't like Sera because she seemed pretty two-dimensional outside of the romance. Sera fans, don't get your hackles up. I don't hate her, but she usually isn't in my party.

Secondly, not another damn asari science geek. I was hoping for someone with a bit more of a bite. Closer to Aria I guess, but not another science/tech geek that'll magically be able to use certain tech. Ugh.

Now for the topic: I will still stand that it is very unlikely that we'll have another Geth. For starters, no one outside of the Council and a few others even knew about the Reapers in 2185. At all. It was repeatedly stated over and over again that it was a Geth attack led by Saren. So as far as the majority of the galaxy is concerned, the geth are a threat to everyone. Also, what about personality? Geth have none and before anyone mentions Legion, that is as close as I can see. We don't need another Legion here and that's the only way it might happen at all.

Quarians are a different matter. The player does run into Quarians on Pilgrimage and I could see some leaving with the Ark. Their tech skills are invaluable and again, no one knew the Reapers were coming. So the message to come home and fight the geth wasn't going to happen for another two years. The chance to be the first Quarians to explore the galaxy? That would be a helluva thing to pass up.

The problem is that, even with genetic engineering, there needs to be enough diverse genes. There is making sure someone has a particular gender, and then there is cloning babies. Unless BioWare does a major asspull and finds a way to use genetic engineering as an excuse to "cure" Quarians (unlikely, but ya never know,) the immune system is a big issue. Then you have to consider Clean Rooms to have the kids in. Plus the childhood bubble and all of the other precautions.

I think they have a good chance of making it in though. I could see Quarians pitching and bring tech into the project. I think races like the vorcha and the rachni are out. The vorcha are tough but unpredictable and very short lived. The rachni may nor may not be around. The original Queen could be dead due to Shepard.  I imagine that the breeder clone was finally born between 2185-2187 and was highly classified. Most people don't trust them unless Shepard brings the race into the fold for ME3. No one could picture the rachni alive or peaceful prior to that point.

The ME team could invent reasons why certain races will or will not make it into the upcoming game. It's up to us to either buy it and roll with whatever happens, or close our wallets. <shrug> I just know I'm not pre-ordering or buying the CE. I'm waiting for a bit after it comes out.

Oh and I'd really like a volus squadmate. That would be sweet.

I should've put a " " in my post. It was mostly tongue in cheek.

I'll be only pleasantly surprised by whomever we see in Andromeda, but I can easily come up with arguments for nearly everyone's exclusion. Arguments for inclusion are often a bit trickier, and less realistic.

We'll see what happens to each species. It would likely be easiest to just say that limited numbers of the "others" are present but were left on ice until suitable worlds could be found for them. It's a little silly for numerous reasons, but it would allow future games to include a volus, hanar, drell or whomever else without retconning MEA.