Tin Foil Skirt and Thigh-High Boots - Ashley Williams Thread

Hi skippers! I am currently ending trilogy with mass effect modified by fucktone of various mods and its awesome. Some screenshots for you. Mix of 2 Ashley Williams mods.
For me she is only viable option for Shep. Liara... i dont like her voice and face. Tali is some teenager with gun. I just wouldnt go to bed with anything but human woman Miranda is some super famele James Bond, Jack.. well Jack is Jack, let's say she's not in my type. But Ash.. mmm ;-) And yes. Don't like her look in me3.

Thats right. Mehem, Recalibrated, Expanded Galaxy Mod, Backoff, Ashley Warpack Legacy Edition and Ashley Battlepack. Just finished Cidadel DLC, and heading to Cerberus base. Everything goes fine. Only in casino mission, Ashley looked like eee... vanilla Ashley. Why wonder? First mod change her look in battle second during shore leave or in Normandy.

Yes. But its incompatibile with other mods I am using. Shame its not dlc mod type.

So I have two Obbie Shepards. One that romances Ashley and one that romances Kasumi after ME3 (shut up don't judge me).

I was running through ME3 because I recently bought the DLC weapons. And I wanted to see which class goes the best with Ashley (learning towards Vanguard and Sentinel). I was on the Mars section and I wanted to test out the renegade line after Shepard gets upset at Ash comparing him to the husk like Centurion. I was really surprised by Ash's reaction here. She turns away and has a really disheartened look on her face while saying "sir." I was really impressed by how dynamic her reaction is based on what you say.

I never did this choice before because I like being nice to Ashley because I feel that is the most appropriate relationship with her. Plus her "that's what I needed to hear" and that smile afterwards is too good. But this was still cool nonetheless. 

Oh and Ash looks really good with a Typhoon in her hands. 

Doing the least number of missions will get her back on the Normandy quicker. The only downside to what I posted is not saving the students at Grissom. Aside from Grissom, side missions can be saved to do after the coup

I have that mod too, specifically the "Warpack" one.

Every now and then you can find someone that has changed their mind, or at least did the full arc with her. They usually end up a little less harsh on her; Ash might not be their favorite, but have less hate anyway.


ME, specifically 1-3, left quite the impression on me too. I can agree with that.

People don't often listen to what she actually says, accuse her of racism and being a religious nutjob. Funny, how other character make racist remarks and are more religious than her, yet none of them gets as much hate as she does. Anyway, most people play ME with the mindset "Aliens interesting, humans boring"

While it's true both, Kaidan and Ash, get hate, I still feel as if the hate towards Kaidan has somewhat mellowed. But yeah, both are trashed for reasons I mentioned above

I admit I was reserved about her initially too, but she definitely grew on me. It wasn't because "aliens interesting, humans boring", it was just that I was happy building a team including Garrus, Tali, Liara and Wrex. They'd been established early on as individuals with their own personal motivations that had little to do with advancing their race or something, and I greatly appreciated their help. They seemed to be fine working with humans and the other squadmates, so while I was developing a relationship with them, I talked with Ashley and she complained about having aliens on board, which I found irritating. Not least because they seemed to be just "aliens" to her, not "Garrus" or "Tali" etc.

I later understood she never meant to hate or devalue aliens (and of course, her family history with Turians wasn't too pleasant), and it was indeed rather security concerns than personal aversion. She seemed to grow with the experience, and I grew too by understanding her--something that games rarely do with me. In that sense, I'm more thankful to Ashley than almost anyone else in the series.

It is often overlooked that there's this discussion with Terra Firma, isolationists who fight against mankind developing relationships with aliens, and if you brought Ashley along, she calls them out for being racists. That's where it becomes clear she can very well make a distinction between that and having concerns about aliens being on a top secret Alliance starship. It's a bit like, I don't hate Russians or Chinese at all, I'm just concerned about the risk of having them onboard some vital NATO prototype submarine.

And yes, there's player hypocrisy involved. I found one of the earliest ME conversations irritating, that with Nihlus and Anderson. The Normandy was developed with the help of the Turians after all, they have one Turian spectre on board, who even reveals that he recommended Shepard for becoming a spectre, which requires a lot of trust. Not much later when you become one, Shepard either accepts it as a great honour or complaining that it was about time, but in that conversation Shepard seems reserved, their main concern being "if this is good for humanity".

And then of course there's TIM, who is considered a great/interesting character by a great lot of players who dismissed Ashley for being racist. Unlike Ashley, TIM has proven he's a human supremacist (not to mention that Ashley has high ethical standards, and TIM has none).

On Horizon, there's this encounter that is rightfully shunned for being half-arsed. However, Ashley asks you what the fuck is wrong with you, working for those racist Cerberus cunts. And she's right. She seems to be more principled than Shepard.

I've noticed across several games that some gamers tend to hate characters who question their actions and love those who agree. Those gamers are usualy the most vocal and comments like "lol killed character X" get hundreds of likes. Thats just annoying.

People generally trash Ashley because she's "mean" to Liara in ME1, they accuse her of racism, think she isn't valuable as a soldier/character because of her skill set or because she questions Shepard's involvement with Cerberus and calling out on his bullsh*t (Kaidan too but I've seen him getting more love lately).

Personally, Ash even goes well with my canon soldier Shep and I like her character. Originally, I didn't like her myself because I was listening to what others said until I got my hands on the whole Trilogy (Playstation player here). Liara on the other hand, is a conniving bitch. She gets only so much love because of her cutesy-girl shtick and her character revolving around Shep, on top of BW constantly shoving her down my throat.

I think people just don't understand Ash or don't even want to