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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 14, 2016 15:17:23 GMT
Normally I'd assume the "save humanity" premise was related to simply performing the Andromeda Initiative and you, the player, representing the human part of it... but then upon further inspection in the trailer (and here it is for convenience) it seems more like humanity, rather than the other races aboard the arks, are in trouble when they get to Andromeda.
So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion?
Then this game will not just be about colonizing from the ark to planets, but about either rebuilding the Ark or establishing humanity somewhere in Andromeda on borrowed time before the survivors of the Hyperion starve or die out, as there probably won't be room for all humans on the other arks.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 14, 2016 15:45:33 GMT
I think you are not far from truth. We do see lil Ryder in awakening chamber (I'll be using fantasy terms for the lack of actual ones) when fire hits the fan. So it's the beginning of the game. We do see Ryder falling off some hangar door and then waking up on a crash site. We also have this so Hyperion crashing on surface is practically given. But. Hyperion must turn into a pile of scrap from something like this. You'd need to be a Reaper, Shepard or Shepard's Mako to be in one piece after orbital crash. How could frozen colonists on Hyperion not turn into fried ones is beyond me. Unless they actually do. Then all what's left of humanity is Nexus personnel.
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Post by Arcian on Nov 14, 2016 15:57:28 GMT
I think you are not far from truth. We do see lil Ryder in awakening chamber (I'll be using fantasy terms for the lack of actual ones) when fire hits the fan. So it's the beginning of the game. We do see Ryder falling off some hangar door and then waking up on a crash site. We also have this so Hyperion crashing on surface is practically given. But. Hyperion must turn into a pile of scrap from something like this. You'd need to be a Reaper, Shepard or Shepard's Mako to be in one piece after orbital crash. How could frozen colonists on Hyperion not turn into fried ones is beyond me. Unless they actually do. Then all what's left of humanity is Nexus personnel. Like I've been saying for years, BioWare has abandoned all pretense of employing logic in their writing. You're simply not going to get a story that respects your intelligence.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 16:10:52 GMT
I agree that the "save humanity" bit applies once we arrive in Amdromeda. I think it's too early to assume we really know what happens to Ark Hyoerion, though. As Ahriman says, that cover pic implies a horrible crash. That would pretty much be the end of humanity in Andromeda, unless they somehow escape the crash. (Implausible, but what else?) I don't think that works too well for the plot. The cleverly spliced scenes don't necessarily tell an accurate story, either. I've seen enough misleading previews and marketing to know that I should wait and see what happens. We do know that Ark Hyperion finds the human "Golden World" is "not as expected", and that they encounter some serious problems, at some point. Whether the entire Ark is lost, who can say? That cover pic certainly seems to say it is. I don't think we will lose the greater number of humans on that Ark, though. If we did, there would be no humanity to save. I'm pretty sure the "save humanity" bit is tied to the urgent need to find humanity a suitable world as soon as possible, in view of Ark Hyperion's state.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 14, 2016 16:16:53 GMT
I think you guys aren't far from the mark at all.......and I think I like this premise: as long as their are plenty of survivors from the crash, not just your family as I'm not about to start procreating with the familia, I don't care how much ryncol and red sand I've had; it's not happening
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 14, 2016 16:41:47 GMT
I think you are not far from truth. We do see lil Ryder in awakening chamber (I'll be using fantasy terms for the lack of actual ones) when fire hits the fan. So it's the beginning of the game. We do see Ryder falling off some hangar door and then waking up on a crash site. We also have this so Hyperion crashing on surface is practically given. But. Hyperion must turn into a pile of scrap from something like this. You'd need to be a Reaper, Shepard or Shepard's Mako to be in one piece after orbital crash. How could frozen colonists on Hyperion not turn into fried ones is beyond me. Unless they actually do. Then all what's left of humanity is Nexus personnel. Like I've been saying for years, BioWare has abandoned all pretense of employing logic in their writing. You're simply not going to get a story that respects your intelligence. I would like to correct you. It's not that BioWare has abandoned emplying logic, it's that all employees that employed logic has abandoned the company. Mac said they take the science of Andromeda very seriously and meanwhile he's retweeting SciencePorn trivia on Twitter, and either way, when Walters says that, it's not exactly reassuring anyway. The last publiziced work he did was Foundation, not that it was even attempting to be scientific, but it goes to say how much he has "improved" since ME3 if he even has that, and now he's the guy giving guidelines and the "go-ahead" when other writers need to come up with plausible scenarios. I mean, I'm excited to run around new planets and look at pretty graphics - it's always nice to play my own customized character as well, but there's really no incentive to trust where this story is headed from a standpoint of playing the game for its "quality writing".
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Nov 14, 2016 17:33:52 GMT
I mean, we haven't even seen the crash happen and people are already loading the gun.
For once, I wish the Reapers were real.
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Post by bshep on Nov 14, 2016 17:49:29 GMT
I mean, we haven't even seen the crash happen and people are already loading the gun. For once, I wish the Reapers were real. Nah...it's pretty much just four or five people doing the same "loading the gun" as you said over and over. Everyone else is pretty much cool so far.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 14, 2016 18:23:48 GMT
Interesting. I had assumed the scope of the game would be about the colonization effort of the entire initiative (i.e. everybody from the Milky Way). But they could concievably go smaller, focus on only the human ark and it's plight (since shenanigans go down before we wake up) and it's only in later games/other media that we deal with the rest.
This does have benefits. They aren't forced to reveal everything about the initiative at once, and they have more time to see how it's received and to tailor their plan to adjust for things they may have missed. It could also be a way of generally gauging how well this new setting and premise does (we know that's happening anway) but without blowing their load (read: all their ideas) at once for something that might fail, Or even if successful, would then mean they have to come up with something new for the next one.
Yes, this does have merits. We'll see if they're smart enough to capitalize on it, I don't think anyone should lay money on the matter. But it is possible.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 14, 2016 19:10:21 GMT
I hope you're right! I was worried about the plot of the game for a while when marketing kept repeating exploration and the frontier spirit like we're going on a fun little expedtion. But now it seems humanity is actually in deep trouble and they're literally fighting for survival rather than establishing a cozy nice home in Andromeda and terrorizing the natives. This shipwrecked theme is MUCH MORE to my liking. Maybe we'll get a counter like in BSG and if we mess up humanity starves to death and it's game over. Of course this just proves how stupid it is to separate the races by ship. But we don't actually really know what the plan was. So maybe it will all make sense.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 20:30:40 GMT
Interesting. I had assumed the scope of the game would be about the colonization effort of the entire initiative (i.e. everybody from the Milky Way). But they could concievably go smaller, focus on only the human ark and it's plight (since shenanigans go down before we wake up) and it's only in later games/other media that we deal with the rest. This does have benefits. They aren't forced to reveal everything about the initiative at once, and they have more time to see how it's received and to tailor their plan to adjust for things they may have missed. It could also be a way of generally gauging how well this new setting and premise does (we know that's happening anway) but without blowing their load (read: all their ideas) at once for something that might fail, Or even if successful, would then mean they have to come up with something new for the next one. Yes, this does have merits. We'll see if they're smart enough to capitalize on it, I don't think anyone should lay money on the matter. But it is possible. I hope you're right! I was worried about the plot of the game for a while when marketing kept repeating exploration and the frontier spirit like we're going on a fun little expedtion. But now it seems humanity is actually in deep trouble and they're literally fighting for survival rather than establishing a cozy nice home in Andromeda and terrorizing the natives. This shipwrecked theme is MUCH MORE to my liking. Maybe we'll get a counter like in BSG and if we mess up humanity starves to death and it's game over. Of course this just proves how stupid it is to separate the races by ship. But we don't actually really know what the plan was. So maybe it will all make sense. I think it's going to be a bit of both. We know that there is a mission involving the rescue of a lost krogan vessel*, so we are definitely going to find our Milky Way friends, at some point. It was also hinted that the other Pathfinders would appear in the game, at some point. (How badass must these three be? Asari huntress, Turian force recon and Salarian STG-type, maybe?) I think the "find humanity a home ASAP" will be an important part of the story, but not the entire story. * This mission, hinted long ago in the leak, was confirmed in the GI article.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 14, 2016 21:41:44 GMT
I think it's going to be a bit of both. We know that there is a mission involving the rescue of a lost krogan vessel*, so we are definitely going to find our Milky Way friends, at some point. It was also hinted that the other Pathfinders would appear in the game, at some point. (How badass must these three be? Asari huntress, Turian force recon and Salarian STG-type, maybe?) I think the "find humanity a home ASAP" will be an important part of the story, but not the entire story. * This mission, hinted long ago in the leak, was confirmed in the GI article. There goes my BSG scenario... *sigh* Well, as long as the shipwreck theme is not resolved within two hours, I'm fine with a bit of both. And now I wish Bioware would introduce playing different characters in an episodic parallel timeline story. I want to BE that awesome Salarian STG! I want each ark stranded someplace else with different problems to solve. And at some point all races find each other again and kick ass together. So many possibilities for an awesome narrative. Please don't be lazy, Bioware. No cartoon villain this time. Give us some real survival suspense. The terror of the unknown, isolation and starvation. You can easily do that while exploring. I guess it would make for a nice progression to go from naked survival to building settlements and starting to enjoy the process of going on scavenger runs in the Nomad. And just as everything seems to be going well at last something bad needs to happen, of course. So a classical three act story: Survival, expansion, conflict/resolution. If that's what Bioware has in mind, I'm ok with it.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 21:59:57 GMT
I think it's going to be a bit of both. We know that there is a mission involving the rescue of a lost krogan vessel*, so we are definitely going to find our Milky Way friends, at some point. It was also hinted that the other Pathfinders would appear in the game, at some point. (How badass must these three be? Asari huntress, Turian force recon and Salarian STG-type, maybe?) I think the "find humanity a home ASAP" will be an important part of the story, but not the entire story. * This mission, hinted long ago in the leak, was confirmed in the GI article. There goes my BSG scenario... *sigh* Well, as long as the shipwreck theme is not resolved within two hours, I'm fine with a bit of both. And now I wish Bioware would introduce playing different characters in an episodic parallel timeline story. I want to BE that awesome Salarian STG! I want each ark stranded someplace else with different problems to solve. And at some point all races find each other again and kick ass together. So many possibilities for an awesome narrative. Please don't be lazy, Bioware. No cartoon villain this time. Give us some real survival suspense. The terror of the unknown, isolation and starvation. You can easily do that while exploring. I guess it would make for a nice progression to go from naked survival to building settlements and starting to enjoy the process of going on scavenger runs in the Nomad. And just as everything seems to be going well at last something bad needs to happen, of course. So a classical three act story: Survival, expansion, conflict/resolution. If that's what Bioware has in mind, I'm ok with it. That sounds like a solid game, but that doesn't sound like a Mass Effect game, in my opinion. I doubt it will be quite as bleak as all that, even though that would be realistic. Mass Effect tends to make me think bigger and more heroic, rather than gritty-survival. Assuming we end up stranded on "Habitat 7" (the human target world), the priorities will be getting survivors into a stable situation and reestablishing communications with the Nexus (or at least another Ark). The first part might involve quite a bit, like finding shelter and water, and dealing with locals. The latter might involve leaving nearly everyone behind on Habitat 7 and heading offworld. Habitat 7 sounds unviable as a long term habitation, so we'd need help in relocating everyone, if Ark Hyperion is damaged. The possibilities are endless. Will we find new tech that solves our problems? Will we successfully call for help? Will the kett help us, before the relationship sours? There are a lot of possibilities, each with varying degrees of likelihood.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 14, 2016 22:03:45 GMT
I will also add the the smaller scope should capture the "feel" of ME1. Replaying it now feels like night and day from the later games. Yes there are still galactic consequences, but you're not Space Jesus, you're just a soldier on a mission, you have a ship, a crew including some quirkier but still subdued types and it's up to you to just get the job done. People also give Meer grief for his ME1 voicework but honestly, he sounds more like a SF soldier in the first game than he does in later games. Except when he's asking for details. Then it's a pretty robotic "tell me more about X". But that's more on the script.
Anyway, if they capture that same feeling, just a dude/lady on a mission with some people for backup, it'll go a long way.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 14, 2016 22:43:49 GMT
Normally I'd assume the "save humanity" premise was related to simply performing the Andromeda Initiative and you, the player, representing the human part of it... but then upon further inspection in the trailer (and here it is for convenience) it seems more like humanity, rather than the other races aboard the arks, are in trouble when they get to Andromeda. So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion? Then this game will not just be about colonizing from the ark to planets, but about either rebuilding the Ark or establishing humanity somewhere in Andromeda on borrowed time before the survivors of the Hyperion starve or die out, as there probably won't be room for all humans on the other arks. You know what be interesting. If we end up whooping the azz of the people on the Asari Ark. Due to Asari diplomatic savvy, they align with the Khet for the sake of survival. Khet hate us. So we form a Human-Krogan-Turian-Salarian coalition to run a train on that Asari ass.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 15, 2016 0:42:32 GMT
So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion? Replace "Hyperion" with "Nexus." Does your theory still hold water? Doesn't Jien Garson say all the AI Pathfinders will ride with her on the Nexus? Would Dad take a separate flight to Andromeda from his kids? Since the Nexus is pan-species, it would follow that all of the Pathfinders of all species are there also. I'll grant that the trailer shows splosions and planetfall, but who knows what the circumstancs are? Could just be a shuttle. Also, we do know that something went wrong with the Hyperion. Finding out what went wrong could be the whole game. Could be lost from navigational error but in good shape, could be damaged, could be hijacked, could be completely destroyed. Wouldn't that be a kick to the balls, if humans didn't have a viable population to make it in Andromeda?
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Post by shechinah on Nov 15, 2016 0:53:25 GMT
So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion? Replace "Hyperion" with "Nexus." Does your theory still hold water? Doesn't Jien Garson say all the AI Pathfinders will ride with her on the Nexus? Would Dad take a separate flight to Andromeda from his kids? Since the Nexus is pan-species, it would follow that all of the Pathfinders of all species are there also. Not as far as I know: in the orientation briefing, she says that each ARK will be assigned a Pathfinder. I don't see why the Pathfinders would be riding with Jian Garson aboard the Nexus sine it goes ahead of the ARKs and why the Pathfinders wouldn't be onboard the ARK they were individually assigned to like in the case of an emergency. Given that they are described as being a blend of elite soldier, scientist and guide, it sounds like they're intended to have a more hands-on role than simply be directing the ARKs from, say, the Nexus.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 15, 2016 0:57:35 GMT
So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion? Replace "Hyperion" with "Nexus." Does your theory still hold water? Doesn't Jien Garson say all the AI Pathfinders will ride with her on the Nexus? Would Dad take a separate flight to Andromeda from his kids? Since the Nexus is pan-species, it would follow that all of the Pathfinders of all species are there also. I'll grant that the trailer shows splosions and planetfall, but who knows what the circumstancs are? Could just be a shuttle. Also, we do know that something went wrong with the Hyperion. Finding out what went wrong could be the whole game. Could be lost from navigational error but in good shape, could be damaged, could be hijacked, could be completely destroyed. Wouldn't that be a kick to the balls, if humans didn't have a viable population to make it in Andromeda? Nope. As shechinah says, I'm unaware of any mention of the Pathfinders being aboard the Nexus. They'd be better able to do their jobs aboard their respective Arks, no?
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Post by goishen on Nov 15, 2016 2:35:55 GMT
What if... And this is just a theory here.
What if we get shot down in the Hyperion and Ryder has to visit all the other colonies to convince them to help humanity?
EDIT : AND! Everybody's thinking that we're the pathfinder of the Hyperion. What if good old dad stays behind to help out humanity and remains their pathfinder, but what if you take over Jien Garson's role as the pathfinder aboard the Nexus? That would put you at the center of a very large expedition, one of those roles is helping humanity by getting all people to their home worlds and ready to fight.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 15, 2016 3:26:01 GMT
Replace "Hyperion" with "Nexus." Does your theory still hold water? Doesn't Jien Garson say all the AI Pathfinders will ride with her on the Nexus? Would Dad take a separate flight to Andromeda from his kids? Since the Nexus is pan-species, it would follow that all of the Pathfinders of all species are there also. I'll grant that the trailer shows splosions and planetfall, but who knows what the circumstancs are? Could just be a shuttle. Also, we do know that something went wrong with the Hyperion. Finding out what went wrong could be the whole game. Could be lost from navigational error but in good shape, could be damaged, could be hijacked, could be completely destroyed. Wouldn't that be a kick to the balls, if humans didn't have a viable population to make it in Andromeda? Nope. As shechinah says, I'm unaware of any mention of the Pathfinders being aboard the Nexus. They'd be better able to do their jobs aboard their respective Arks, no? Her exact words in the Initiative vid are as follows (0:34-0:41): "Most of you will be aboard Ark Hyperion, (for?) the rest will travel on the Nexus, with me." So what would be a natural division of who goes in which? How about Pathfinders and their teams on the Nexus, where Garson can conference and plan with them, while all the logistics crew are on the Arks. This is assuming the job of Pathfinders is to find safe "goldenworlds" for the Arks to park at and defrost their colonists. What else is the Nexus for, if not leading the whole expedition, including path finding? I don't think any of that is unreasonable to assume. She goes on to say (0:49-0:52), "Each Ark will be assigned it's own Pathfinder." Not, "Each Ark will have a Pathfinder aboard" or "Each Ark carries it's own Pathfinder." Assigned doesn't necessarily mean aboard. Of course, it could be that "assigned" does mean"aboard" and I'm all wet, but I don't think there is anything in revealed lore so far that irrefutably contradicts my interpretation. Interpreting the disaster pics in the other trailer, Dad takes junior along to go check out some presumably safe problem or maybe go find the missing Hyperion, departing from the Nexus using a smaller exploration ship, sibling to the Tempest. They are attacked. Dad sacrifices himself to save junior. Junior is later rescued by another team. Tell me that doesn't have Bioware prologue story written all over it. Where the Ark in flames on the Deluxe cover fits in, I don't know. It could still fit in my interpretation, but then is that a separate battle from the one I'm guessing, or the same? If the same, there's an Occam's Razor argument that everything just happens on the Hyperion and the Nexus is not involved at all -- though I still want to know what good it is if not giving Pathfinders missions. P.S. She also says, "a major milestone for all of humanity, as well as every other species in the galaxy" ... Is that right? Including Vorcha? Batarians? Thresher Maws?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 3:39:12 GMT
Interesting. I had assumed the scope of the game would be about the colonization effort of the entire initiative (i.e. everybody from the Milky Way). But they could concievably go smaller, focus on only the human ark and it's plight (since shenanigans go down before we wake up) and it's only in later games/other media that we deal with the rest. This does have benefits. They aren't forced to reveal everything about the initiative at once, and they have more time to see how it's received and to tailor their plan to adjust for things they may have missed. It could also be a way of generally gauging how well this new setting and premise does (we know that's happening anway) but without blowing their load (read: all their ideas) at once for something that might fail, Or even if successful, would then mean they have to come up with something new for the next one. Yes, this does have merits. We'll see if they're smart enough to capitalize on it, I don't think anyone should lay money on the matter. But it is possible. I hope you're right! I was worried about the plot of the game for a while when marketing kept repeating exploration and the frontier spirit like we're going on a fun little expedtion. But now it seems humanity is actually in deep trouble and they're literally fighting for survival rather than establishing a cozy nice home in Andromeda and terrorizing the natives. This shipwrecked theme is MUCH MORE to my liking. Maybe we'll get a counter like in BSG and if we mess up humanity starves to death and it's game over. Of course this just proves how stupid it is to separate the races by ship. But we don't actually really know what the plan was. So maybe it will all make sense. I think it's going to be a bit of both. We know that there is a mission involving the rescue of a lost krogan vessel*, so we are definitely going to find our Milky Way friends, at some point. It was also hinted that the other Pathfinders would appear in the game, at some point. (How badass must these three be? Asari huntress, Turian force recon and Salarian STG-type, maybe?) I think the "find humanity a home ASAP" will be an important part of the story, but not the entire story. * This mission, hinted long ago in the leak, was confirmed in the GI article. We've also seen concept art of a Presidium-like interior. Since the entirety of Andromeda takes place in Andromeda, the best bet is that the concept art was of the Nexus, and the Nexus will be the Citadel-like hub for this game. The naming of the Nexus suggests it will be the main hub as well. One of the definitions for nexus is "the central and most important point or place."
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 15, 2016 4:07:36 GMT
PapaCharlie9 , the preliminary Golden World targets have already been identified. Missions are planned before launch, not upon arrival. It makes more sense for the Nexus to take up a central, accessible location. This puts Jien and the support staff in place where they can best support the Arks. With initial targets already loaded and set as stop number one, the Pathfinders would need to be aboard their respective Arks and ready to begin their assignments upon arrival. If the Pathfinders weren't aboard their respective vessels, it would've made more sense for all 5 vessels to simply travel together to a central location, plan, and disperse. They don't do this because they wisely planned their search parameters ahead of time, saving valuable time and resources upon arrival by having each ark travel straight to an accessible golden target. Ark Hyperion's running into trouble couldn't have been an unforeseeable outcome when traveling 600 FTL years into the unknown. That's all the more reason to have your best, your Pathfinder, aboard each ark. That leadership can save lives when issues arise. Edit: This is probably one of the posts where I declare an opinion like it's a fact. It's a writing style, more than anything. It's good when you need to sell an idea, an I often fall into it when I'm forming thoughts or theories, almost like I'm selling myself on it as it forms. I hope it doesn't come across as annoying or condescending. That's not the intent. I could be wide of the mark with any or all of my theories.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 15, 2016 4:19:41 GMT
@hanshotfirst
Yeah, there's no doubt we are eventually finding the Nexus and reconnecting with the bulk of the Ai. I'm all for a bit of scrambling for survival in the early going, but this is where the game really begins for me. When we reconnect with our Ai fellows and start exploring the Heleus Cluster, visiting giant space stations and ancient vaults... that's Msss Effect.
I'd not want to play "Marooned: Andromeda Edition" for very long. Get me into space.
Edit: Sorry for the muti-posts, guys. Posting from a phone sucks.
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Post by Rynnju on Nov 15, 2016 5:30:10 GMT
This is what I imagine too. I also think what follows will be us trying to get the other races/the "Council" on the Nexus to give Hyperion some resources to help us out. Naturally they're going to refuse to some degree to cause tension (and give us someone to "hang up" on, as was said). So our job will probably be traveling around Andromeda to find resources, planets to colonize (and choices to make if Andromeda races have laid claim to them), and maybe do favors so other races help us out. And along the way we'll encounter new races and, of course, run into an obstacle that is the Kett. Maybe whatever planet we crash on is one the Kett consider theirs, which causes more problems.
I also wonder if perhaps the Kett are the "dominant" race who has the majority of the Andromeda galaxy in their iron fist. This also has me wondering how any of the Arks could ever stand up to the Andromeda races who want them gone. We're in their house now. It's possible that, if the Kett are the "iron fist" of the galaxy, part of the story will be connecting with new Andromeda races by promising to help them overcome the Kett.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 15, 2016 5:44:36 GMT
Normally I'd assume the "save humanity" premise was related to simply performing the Andromeda Initiative and you, the player, representing the human part of it... but then upon further inspection in the trailer (and here it is for convenience) it seems more like humanity, rather than the other races aboard the arks, are in trouble when they get to Andromeda. So yeah, we arrive, everything goes to shit as the Hyperion (the human ark) gets attacked, and it appears both Ryder and Liam at scattered parts of the trailer fall out as the Hyperion has reached the atmosphere of another planet and wake up down there. We later see the Tempest fly across this desert planet surface towards some shipwrecked structure. I assumed it was a vault or some ancient remains of a ship... but what if it's the Hyperion? Then this game will not just be about colonizing from the ark to planets, but about either rebuilding the Ark or establishing humanity somewhere in Andromeda on borrowed time before the survivors of the Hyperion starve or die out, as there probably won't be room for all humans on the other arks. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
It's why Bio calls Andromeda a human centric story. I believe the Hyperion event is a plot device to hand over power to the young Ryder.
According to Flynn, Ryder needs to do quests and start the colonization process to get into the critical path. Rebuilding the ARK is a lost cause, imo. Colonising a planet(s) is the priority.
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