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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 12:20:43 GMT
With Cora being second-in-Command, that would make her the XO of the tempest. So who is the XO when Cora is on a mission with Ryder? Maybe Kallo, or another crewmate, but I'm not sure Bioware even thought about it. They didn't for ME2. With Cora's Asari training, they've clearly set things up for some friction with PeeBee, who has been presented as an "anti-Asari". It'll be fun to see how that plays out... I'm not sure if there'll be friction. She might be interested and curious about Peebee not liking or being opposite to the Asari's culture, given that she spent quite some time with them, but it's not like Cora will necessary defend the asari's position. |
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 29, 2017 12:33:18 GMT
] With Cora's Asari training, they've clearly set things up for some friction with PeeBee, who has been presented as an "anti-Asari". It'll be fun to see how that plays out... I'm not sure if there'll be friction. She might be interested and curious about Peebee not liking or being opposite to the Asari's culture, given that she spent quite some time with them, but it's not like Cora will necessary defend the asari's position. Nothing's certain, but one would imagine that to volunteer to be embedded in an Asari team and to stay there for four years implies an interest in and respect for their culture. The potential for friction is certainly there, if that's the route the writers choose to take, but sure, they could go the opposite way. |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 13:29:44 GMT
]I'm not sure if there'll be friction. She might be interested and curious about Peebee not liking or being opposite to the Asari's culture, given that she spent quite some time with them, but it's not like Cora will necessary defend the asari's position. Nothing's certain, but one would imagine that to volunteer to be embedded in an Asari team and to stay there for four years implies an interest in and respect for their culture. The potential for friction is certainly there, if that's the route the writers choose to take, but sure, they could go the opposite way. She might've been interested in their training though, not necessarily their culture. Even if interested, it doesn't mean she'd defend their culture in front of Peebee. You're right that it's a possible path for their interactions, I just meant it's not be only possible one based on her asari training. |
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2017 13:34:37 GMT
Maybe Kallo, or another crewmate, but I'm not sure Bioware even thought about it. They didn't for ME2. I wouldn't want the pilot to be the XO. He needs to focus on flying the ship. In ME1, Pressly is able to move around monitoring all the operations of the ship. |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 13:36:06 GMT
Maybe Kallo, or another crewmate, but I'm not sure Bioware even thought about it. They didn't for ME2. I wouldn't want the pilot to be the XO. He needs to focus on flying the ship. In ME1, Pressly is able to move around monitoring all the operations of the ship. I know ME did have a stationary XO. ME2 didn't since Miranda was a squadmate. MEA might be similar. |
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Post by n7rhysj on Jan 29, 2017 13:54:52 GMT
I have a theory as to why the Ryder twin jumps ahead of Cora is this has been posted already I do apologize, I think it’s to do with SAM if you listen in the video it does state SAM is coded to Papa Ryder DNA. I think this means that when he dies as I assume he does in the game the only way the mission can continue is that you become the pathfinder as you will be the only who can full use SAM. Will create an interesting dynamic for Scott as Cora is the more experienced older woman looking forward to that dynamic.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2017 14:01:39 GMT
Friction between Cora and the peepee asari? Didn't Mac Walters say that peepee is not a team player? That would be enough for me not to want her on the squad. Hopefully she's an option. That could be enough for Cora to be concerned.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Jan 29, 2017 14:06:24 GMT
Friction between Cora and the peepee asari? Didn't Mac Walters say that peepee is not a team player? That would be enough for me not to want her on the squad. Hopefully she's an option. That could be enough for Cora to be concerned. Really?  |
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 29, 2017 14:21:28 GMT
Friction between Cora and the peepee asari? Didn't Mac Walters say that peepee is not a team player? That would be enough for me not to want her on the squad. Hopefully she's an option. That could be enough for Cora to be concerned. Yeah, she's supposedly not a team player in general, that she originally decided to tag along with the Tempest team because they're doing all that exploring. I thought someone had also said that she and Vetra were going to have problems. But I can see Cora not liking a renegade asari around, too. |
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Post by Balsam Beige on Jan 29, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
I have a theory as to why the Ryder twin jumps ahead of Cora is this has been posted already I do apologize, I think it’s to do with SAM if you listen in the video it does state SAM is coded to Papa Ryder DNA. I think this means that when he dies as I assume he does in the game the only way the mission can continue is that you become the pathfinder as you will be the only who can full use SAM. Will create an interesting dynamic for Scott as Cora is the more experienced older woman looking forward to that dynamic. I also think it has something to do with SAM and Alec's DNA. Cora being a Lieutenant and stepping aside to a Recruit for the betterment of the mission. Probably some tension at first but it also could speak well for Cora's character. Similarly to Cassandra stepping aside to the Inquisitor. |
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Post by n7rhysj on Jan 29, 2017 15:10:49 GMT
I have a theory as to why the Ryder twin jumps ahead of Cora is this has been posted already I do apologize, I think it’s to do with SAM if you listen in the video it does state SAM is coded to Papa Ryder DNA. I think this means that when he dies as I assume he does in the game the only way the mission can continue is that you become the pathfinder as you will be the only who can full use SAM. Will create an interesting dynamic for Scott as Cora is the more experienced older woman looking forward to that dynamic. I also think it has something to do with SAM and Alec's DNA. Cora being a Lieutenant and stepping aside to a Recruit for the betterment of the mission. Probably some tension at first but it also could speak well for Cora's character. Similarly to Cassandra stepping aside to the Inquisitor. I think it the only logical way it could work, with regards to DA which ever background you chose you had extensive combat training e.g the human male inquistor either fought as part of the circle of had templar training. Its stated that both the Ryder twins are new recurits and have not been combat tested. Cora is battle tested and has fought with asari commandos plus all the other team members have more experice is seems the SAM link seems the only way it makes sense. |
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Post by Balsam Beige on Jan 29, 2017 15:35:05 GMT
 Scott being a confident man, and being confident with her, touching her shoulder, to encourage her. I loved that scene. The fact that Scott wouldn't hesitate to do something like that with a woman probably older than him is cool ! Oh, yeah I felt truly something in the trailer watching this. I thought " I cannot wait to witness what will be their relationship and how it will evolve =) I agree with this. Such a nice scene. Hopefully there will be more like it throughout the game.  |
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2017 16:03:29 GMT
With Cora being second-in-Command, that would make her the XO of the tempest. So who is the XO when Cora is on a mission with Ryder? Maybe Kallo, or another crewmate, but I'm not sure Bioware even thought about it. They didn't for ME2. Miranda was the XO. They could put virtually anyone in charge they wanted since it's not a military operation. And while the AI also isn't military, I'd guess they more closely follow that structure than Cerberus did. Your twin could potentially serve as XO. Still, we don't really know the full crew. Could be a non-squadmate will fill the role just like Pressly did. |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 16:41:04 GMT
Maybe Kallo, or another crewmate, but I'm not sure Bioware even thought about it. They didn't for ME2. Miranda was the XO. They could put virtually anyone in charge they wanted since it's not a military operation. And while the AI also isn't military, I'd guess they more closely follow that structure than Cerberus did. Your twin could potentially serve as XO. Still, we don't really know the full crew. Could be a non-squadmate will fill the role just like Pressly did. My point for ME2 is that Miranda was the XO but when she left the ship for going with Shepard there wasn't someone else taking charge. The same can happen in MEA. |
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Post by readher on Jan 29, 2017 16:51:25 GMT
Miranda was the XO. They could put virtually anyone in charge they wanted since it's not a military operation. And while the AI also isn't military, I'd guess they more closely follow that structure than Cerberus did. Your twin could potentially serve as XO. Still, we don't really know the full crew. Could be a non-squadmate will fill the role just like Pressly did. My point for ME2 is that Miranda was the XO but when she left the ship for going with Shepard there wasn't someone else taking charge. The same can happen in MEA. In ME2 it was pretty much Joker who assumed XO role (which is stupid imo), so if Cora is XO I think it's safe to assume Kallo Jath will take over if she leaves with us (unless BW stepped up their military game, which is sadly doubtful). |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:01:19 GMT
My point for ME2 is that Miranda was the XO but when she left the ship for going with Shepard there wasn't someone else taking charge. The same can happen in MEA. In ME2 it was pretty much Joker who assumed XO role (which is stupid imo), so if Cora is XO I think it's safe to assume Kallo Jath will take over if she leaves with us (unless BW stepped up their military game, which is sadly doubtful). Well, in theory we're not military, though I agree that we should have another one that assumes charge. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 29, 2017 17:04:44 GMT
It could be a crew member we haven't been introduced to yet who will be the XO if Ryder and Cora are off the ship.
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Post by readher on Jan 29, 2017 17:20:32 GMT
In ME2 it was pretty much Joker who assumed XO role (which is stupid imo), so if Cora is XO I think it's safe to assume Kallo Jath will take over if she leaves with us (unless BW stepped up their military game, which is sadly doubtful). Well, in theory we're not military, though I agree that we should have another one that assumes charge. We might not be military, but considering that pathfinder was choosen to be N7 and his XO is Alliance lieutenant, I think it's safe to assume at least branches of AI follow military structure. Aside from making chain of command more transparent, it simply makes sense. |
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Post by Toyish Batphone on Jan 29, 2017 17:23:45 GMT
Friction between Cora and the peepee asari? Didn't Mac Walters say that peepee is not a team player? That would be enough for me not to want her on the squad. Hopefully she's an option. That could be enough for Cora to be concerned. Pepe is now an Asari ? That would certainly make for an interesting spectacle...  |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:25:27 GMT
Well, in theory we're not military, though I agree that we should have another one that assumes charge. We might not be military, but considering that pathfinder was choosen to be N7 and his XO is Alliance lieutenant, I think it's safe to assume at least branches of AI follow military structure. Aside from making chain of command more transparent, it simply makes sense. I agree, As I said above. I just meant we're not military so They might've decided (Bioware) to not follow that structure.. |
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Post by ulmanicator on Jan 29, 2017 17:34:05 GMT
It could be a crew member we haven't been introduced to yet who will be the XO if Ryder and Cora are off the ship. Maybe it's Reyes? |
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2017 17:41:54 GMT
In ME2 it was pretty much Joker who assumed XO role (which is stupid imo), so if Cora is XO I think it's safe to assume Kallo Jath will take over if she leaves with us (unless BW stepped up their military game, which is sadly doubtful). Joker was XO in ME2? No. The tempest pilot for XO? No. Let him worry about flying the ship. The XO worries about the operations of the ship leaving the pilot to maintain focus when flying the ship. |
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Post by readher on Jan 29, 2017 17:47:50 GMT
In ME2 it was pretty much Joker who assumed XO role (which is stupid imo), so if Cora is XO I think it's safe to assume Kallo Jath will take over if she leaves with us (unless BW stepped up their military game, which is sadly doubtful). Joker was XO in ME2? No. The tempest pilot for XO? No. Let him worry about flying the ship. The XO worries about the operations of the ship leaving the pilot to maintain focus when flying the ship. Never said he was XO. I said he assumed XO role when Miranda was off-ship, which was stupid. |
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2017 17:51:03 GMT
Never said he was XO. I said he assumed XO role when Miranda was off-ship, which was stupid. Where did you get the "he assumed XO" from? He would be the last one I would consider for XO. |
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Post by Cannibal on Jan 29, 2017 17:58:02 GMT
Cora is Alec's second in command, there is no evidence that she will be our second in command. We don't yet know the reasons why we took over and she didn't.
Also for Mass Effect 2, I just assumed Jacob would be the XO if Shepard and Miranda were both of the ship. Clearly BioWare has faith in his leadership skills since he's one of 3 that could lead the other team in the final mission successfully.
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