Peebee (Official Thread)

Sept 11, 2016 12:17:59 GMT @tzeenchianapostrophe said:

Sept 11, 2016 11:36:38 GMT shechinah said:

"Bioware is pushing an agenda!"

But they do push an agenda, they certainly did in DA:I, a series of changes to accommodate the current political correctness movement.

First and foremost of course, BW is part of a corporation that is aimed at making money, however, that doesn't mean
that they can't have secondary agendas, especially considering that some of their developers are at the very least equally skilled
and enthusiastic at tweeting their social justice agenda, as they are at developing video games.

And I'm saying this despite the fact that I disliked the shallow and over the top style of ME2's butt shots and catsuits.
I just don't want to see an agenda driven whiplash to the opposite direction.

My point is, IMO Hamburglar girl is looks okay I guess, nothing to write home about and perhaps a little weird. (she certainly isn't Natalie Dormer, not even close...)

But I wouldn't put it past BW at this point to make these decisions as part of an agenda, and I don't want to see agenda in my entertainment.
(and agenda in this case would be the things I quoted from your original post, meaning to preach about variety of female facial features, etc.
disregarding that males are judged just as harshly for certain attributes by females, it's all about what each gender finds attractive)

These things (visual character design) should be considered strictly in regards to the plot, the world, the character, the overall immersion, and finally the fun factor.
Hopefully ME:A will be like that.

When I say agenda in this case, I'm not referring to pushing notions of political correctness and such: I'm referring to the agendas where people accuse Bioware of such agendas like intentionally making every female character in a game ugly and then basing this claim on the appearance of two characters (the asari and default femRyder). Agendas that I don't see as making a whole lot of sense.

I can see the reason behind the claims of a political correctness agenda being pushed and being pushed too far so this isn't me saying that all claims of agendas are without merit or that there is no such thing as agendas in the industry: I just see some claims of agendas being on par with really silly conspiracy theories especially when the supposed evidence is what I've mentioned above. What separates the claims of a politically correctness agenda and the first mentioned claims of an agenda is the evidence presented.

It's also wierd to see this agenda accusation leveled at the Mass Effect team of all the teams since they did things like those shots of Miranda, gave EDI a uniform that featured a camel toe and admitted to changing Ashley's appearance in Mass Effect 3 just to make her look sexier (even though the change didn't fit her character nor was it due to character development). It's kind of wierd to see people jumping to the conclusion that they were legitimately and intentionally going to make every female character ugly.

Also, the Natalie Dormer thing was just to emphasis my point that those facial traits did not a masculine face make.