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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 11, 2017 9:57:33 GMT
Hope you guys don't mind a little less professional/talented fan-art! I've been wanting to draw the MEA squaddies (and the OT and DA ones too) for a while, so to kick the rust off, I started with the default Sara Ryder. I plan on coloring it and adding some background too. Let me know what you guys think. (Source)Amazing attention to detail on the armor! I also like the pose, makes her look strong and determined. This would surely look even better with a touch of color. Thank you for sharing
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Post by Vall on Feb 11, 2017 13:16:56 GMT
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Post by KirkyX on Feb 11, 2017 21:15:24 GMT
I'm gonna try breaking everything out into separate quotes, 'cause as we both know from that old thread, these chains can get a little unwieldy past a certain point! Ah, I had the CE, so I never had to fiddle with it for that stuff. I had no idea they'd never offered the hoodie separately! It's the most iconic bit of casual wear in that game; I guess I kinda assumed they'd put it out for everyone at some point. I didn't know about the highlight system either! Huh, if that was hidden in ME3, then I seriously hope they plan to surface something like it for Andromeda--as I discussed up-thread, the character I'm planning to model my Ryder after - who also got a lot of play in that Armour Art thread, now that I think about it - has very distinctive hair, and I'll need a highlight system and colour wheel if I'm to have any hope of approximating it! 1. Yeah... wish they did. Hopefully that won't happen again this time with the Pathfinder casual outfit, assuming it's as nice/iconic (they should do a deluxe edition 30-second trailer like they did for the pre-order bonuses to show it off). Couldn't agree more, so much potential! Well, some people are wondering if we can, in fact, use two hair colours since it looks like Cora has two, but I'm skeptical since companions often have unique looks (what, the main character and hero isn't supposed to look iconic, too?). Here's hoping for that and colour-wheels, though! Depending on what the front of the bob (below) looks like, and if those systems are in, you should actually be able to approximate your Mandalorian! Having a jump-pack helps, too. You should! It's really nice. And one of the only stylish pieces of clothing I have I was lucky and got it on a good Christmas sale. 2. That's a pretty awesome story, 100% accurate or not We get a brief description of Sara (and Scott) in the latest briefing. The twins are Alliance military, and Sara was assigned to support Prothean researchers. So, can we extrapolate from those descriptions that Scott is ambitious and potentially jealous and Sara is geeky and into science? While I'm adamant that not letting us decide these things ourselves is freaking stupid, that being true about Sara would be a dream come true for me - a Bioware protagonist who's geeky and smart. WANT! And wasn't this supposed to be Sara video? I mean we've had Scott during CES (I guess that doesn't count :/ ) 3. Apparently that one "doesn't count", no. Like the Playstation demo. Convenient that all the ones that don't count show off more of Scott, huh? And he has not one, but two cinematic trailers, so far. Arguably the most important trailers as well as most meaningful to show off one Ryder or the other since gameplay is identical between them and we usually see them from the back, possibly helmeted and not talking in those. It just irks me. I don't actually care how many trailers each gets, I just want relatively equal screentime. So far there is still much more Scott than Sara. And for the millionth time: Why not just have both in the same trailer? They exist at the same time! I know right!? I've been something of a broken record in saying that I want to play a really smart protagonist for once, and with Sara's background being around Prothean dig sites, and having both parents be scientists it seems she will be. And yeah, I'm gonna make her as big a nerd as possible. I want my character to geek out over stuff as much as I am while playing her. (Whenever Shepard was talking to some scientist or engineer in the game and being all 'I don't follow' I was like ' I follow! Tell me moar!!' ) 4. Same here! And that was one of the most annoying things about Shepard by far (so it isn't surprising that it's also something that overrides RP). It was even more annoying in situations where Shepard should really know these things already, not go "and that is/means?". Like talking to Adams about the upgraded stealth drive. There is no possible way the captain of a ship wouldn't know the basics of their own ship's functions. Especially not an N7. Blarg! And the solution to this is so simple! Just have the protagonist do the exposition instead! Not "And that, Commander, means this", but "Oh, so that means we'll be able to stay in stealth mode longer, I gotcha". You know, paraphrased. Same word budget. No, you can't. Too soon...It'll always be too soon... I'm too lazy to look through this thread, but Scott Ryder's face model has confirmed Sara's face model. Jayde Rossi So, who thinks she's ugly again? 5. Oh, that's weird. I thought neither had models this time. Neither of them really looked like models to me, either. Hmm... I hope we can edit them in the CC this time! A lot of people want to use their look as a baseline. At least we know (almost) that we can use their hairstyles for custom characters, either way. It's a real shame that glasses - even as a fashion statement - don't seem to exist in the MEverse. I'd totally give my Ryder a pair if they were available. 6. It's because visors have replaced them for fashion and function Even in Andromeda, apparently (Jaal)! It would be kind of cool if we could attach one to our Ryder in the CC rather than just as a helmet. Scott Ryder's face model made a Twitter post saying who the face model of Sara Ryder is. She's very pretty. That's all. The point was just to say that not all the women in MEA are ugly.Well, to be fair, we haven't seen many characters yet, so it could still go in any direction Yeah, that's my assumption. I suppose there's always a chance you could have someone like Traynor, who didn't get access to the various gene-therapies and such until it was too late. There's still contacts in that scenario, of course, but plenty of people with bad eyesight hate wearing/refuse to wear those today--myself included. (Though I suppose most eyesight problems that could be corrected with glasses/contacts could also be corrected by surgery in the 2180s, gene-therapy or no...) 7. It's been ages. What couldn't Traynor get fixed? Are you going to change Ryder name or stick to Sara to hear her name in game? I'm still on the fence with that but I think I'm going to change her name. Both, at some point. Current plan is to use Sara on my first run, something else after (like for my awkward self-insert). I imagine it will be like the DA:I one. Free reign up until a certain point, in DA:I it was around the Hinterlands (if you did sides and explored to high heavens (Don't get distracted xD)). When the timer expires you get stopped playing. Its basically the full game installs, and then you get a message basically saying "You have 6 hours left" etc until it runs out, then you get "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" until you get the new game. I feel like stuff like time in the menus and CC shouldn't count towards that time-limit. It makes no sense. Surely it wouldn't be that hard to only make it apply to gameplay. I really want to see CC ;; I have my heart on Mirai Ryder having a bob cut. I need to know if that can be a thing. Also, anyone making their FemRyder an engineer? That's my first run and my favorite class As you probably saw, bob cut is a thing! My characters usually sport something similar, so this is good news! Well, if I like it from the front. I hope! Purple! And yeah, I'm thinking of being an Engineer, too, to maximize the geeky personality I'll be aiming for. And tech powers are underrated I`ll stick with Sara. I`ve always named my female canon characters Sara (it`s my name and i`m boring like that ). I'm the opposite. Sort of. I'm also boring like that, but don't use my real name for characters. Not that I'll have a choice this time around, ha. Should be pretty odd for us both to hear our names said aloud by the characters Perfect gif And yup, this is one of the first things I thought of after hearing the protagonist was called Ryder. Very, very awkward, though I doubt I'll romance anyone at this point anyway. Again, Hrungr's way quicker than me, so if you're following the Twitter thread you'll have already seen this. Still: (Too... Happy... To... Communicate... Without... Memes...) 8. I don't understand all the N7 marketing related to the Ryder twins I'd actually rather the default white and blue armour for a figure. And no helmet! This, especially with the helmet, just seems too much like a Shepard wannabe. I'd get a Shepard figure instead! August? How the heck are we suppose to wait till August? We will have beaten the game 5-10 times, played tons of multiplayer and romanced everyone to the point where we'd want different looking statues. Like a Vetra statue with a helmetless Ryder so I can press them together n make them kiss
So what is everyone's Ryder going to look like? Not sure on the details yet, and likely won't be until I'm in the CC, but I'm thinking of making my canon a redhead this time, since I don't have any (except one with auburn hair). She'll still probably end up being pale with freckles, possibly green eyes, though, like a lot of my characters. If not, black, to avoid looking like my second character, a self-insert with brown hair. But I need to see the CC and RP options to know if I'll even bother with that one. Not entirely sure yet...but probably inspired by either or depending on hairstyles available and my mood at the time of character creation (looking at other fanart floating around here, I'm loosing faith in my own drawing skills )Don't sell yourself short, those are great! There are lots of different styles to draw in. Also, no matter how bad you think you are, there's always someone worse, like me Your avatar is awesome and I wish I made it! I like shots of both Shepards together. Or videos, like the VGA ones Since the last time I asked this I got accused of derailing the thread I will just put it in a spoiler.
Can those of you that are uploading big or multiply images put them in a spoiler tag? It makes it easier for us that don't really care about it to scroll past it
I don't have anything against that people like to show fan art, but if I have to scroll past the same image 2-3 times it is getting irritating. Thanks in advance. I don't mind people not using them in their first posts, but I try to put them in my replies if I respond to them, to avoid clutter. That said, I also spoiler my own sometimes, for length. Speaking of which, sorry for the huge post! Been a few days. 1. I realise you've probably seen this by now since it's been so long since this post - sorry, my bad! - but it looks like they've confirmed we'll be getting some kind of Deluxe upgrade option for the regular edition: Derek French @bio_derek There will be a Deluxe upgrade. The exact launch timing is still being worked out.Still not ideal, obviously - it'd be nice to be able to pick and choose between the Deluxe Edition stuff a la carte - but at least the option of getting the hoodie'll be there no matter how you originally bought the game. Speaking of, I think the outfit looks pretty cool--not N7 hoodie cool, but still decent. I'd probably buy a real-life version. (Helps that it looks like a greyscale Starfleet uniform with the AI logo in place of the combadge. ) Yeah. Proper multi-colour options for hair are definitely still something I want, but Cora's 'do doesn't really imply anything either way--as you say, they've never been shy about giving companions - and even generic NPCs - unique options that aren't available to the player. From the back, that MP character's bob looks pretty much perfect, holy wow! And I really dig her armour, too--specially the colour. And yeah, a big part of why I've ended up deciding to go all-out with making a Sabine clone is the jump pack, and all the other Mandalorian-esque abilities it looks like we're gonna have access to! Yeah, it's the price - combined with the foibles/cost of US-UK shipping - that's giving me pause. Well, that and the fact I've never had a leather-look jacket before--my wardrobe's similarly style-challenged. Still, I'll get there eventually! Thinking of buying one of these Kaidan hoodies on clearance in the meantime--he's not my favourite character, but I really like the Spectre colour scheme. 2. I wish I could find the tweets I originally got that story from--Twitter's really unwieldy when you want to go back more than a day or two all the time, forever. 3. Yeah, so odd how all the 'nah, that didn't count' trailers happen to show off Scott. And almost all the screenshots they've released... And all the preview shots of special edition/pre-order armour... and the Pathfinder outfit... I'm not so sure about the idea of having both twins in the same trailer, since while they both exist at the same, one'd be there as the protagonist while the other'd just be another supporting character... And I bet I know which one'd be which. Unless you meant alternating between the two as protagonist, which yeah, that'd be good--but also something they could easily do by alternating the trailers properly, as they said they'd do... I mean, I'm just saying, after female Shepard got shafted so thoroughly in the OT's marketing/wasn't the 'default Shepard' in the CC, to the point a lot of people - anecdotally, at least - didn't even realise you could play as a woman, it's really not too much to ask for Sara and Scott to have an equal share of the limelight this time around. 4. I'm still not pleased by the set backstories for the two twins... But I have to admit, I'm glad my preferred gender/twin is the nerdier one. Here's hoping they follow through on that characterisation and, as you say, "Just have the protagonist do the exposition instead!" 5. Take this with a grain of salt, 'cause I can't remember where I originally heard it - always a possibility it was some speculation-fueled fever dream or something - but I believe the idea is that, this time, all the face presets are gonna be based on models. Which would imply that we'll be able to edit face-scanned presets, at last! 6. I know, but a cool pair of specs - at least for use in our downtime - would really help with a few of the looks I have in mind for Ryder. Or a still-cooler pair of shades! And yeah, I'd like some visor options. I almost always had my Shepard wear a Kuwashii visor in the OT. 7. Various allergies, mainly, and also something to do with stomach acid reflux. Enumerated here.8. I don't mind it, really - if the game were to play out in such a way as to have the N7 armour associated with Ryder somehow, perhaps in how it relates to her relationship with her father, I'd be cool with that - but I'm actually with you on preferring the base Pathfinder/AI armour, overall--it'd make for a super cool figure. I will say that the Ryder N7 figures don't actually look all that Shepard-ish to me, though, largely 'cause their armour - N7 logo aside - doesn't really look like Shepard's iconic gear to me--particularly when it comes to the helmet, chest and arms. I'm also quite glad they went with a helmet instead of a face-sculpt, in part because I really like those bubble helmets, and also 'cause the face sculpts on cheaper figures tend to leave a fair bit to be desired. There's a reason - beyond it looking super badass - I leave my Black Series Sabine's helmet on most of the time.
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Post by Cirvante on Feb 12, 2017 18:51:41 GMT
The Cora thread got one, so you get one too. Enjoy.
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Post by Reznore on Feb 12, 2017 20:54:25 GMT
I prefer the original minus the dead eyes of course. I'm not exactly a fan of the barbie face + shiny hair but anyway some people are going to mod their Sara(h) to look like the photoshop one.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:00:15 GMT
I prefer the original minus the dead eyes of course. I'm not exactly a fan of the barbie face + shiny hair but anyway some people are going to mod their Sara(h) to look like the photoshop one. The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 12, 2017 21:04:27 GMT
I prefer the original minus the dead eyes of course. I'm not exactly a fan of the barbie face + shiny hair but anyway some people are going to mod their Sara(h) to look like the photoshop one. The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. yeah the one on the right definitely looks more realistic to me.
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Post by Reznore on Feb 12, 2017 21:04:58 GMT
The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. It's mostly the eyes.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:06:07 GMT
The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. It's mostly the eyes. To you maybe, but to me it's more the skin, the eyebrows, and the proportions.
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Post by Vall on Feb 12, 2017 21:09:06 GMT
I prefer the original minus the dead eyes of course. I'm not exactly a fan of the barbie face + shiny hair but anyway some people are going to mod their Sara(h) to look like the photoshop one. The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. While that might be true, you have to keep in might that there is a difference between making engine render a face and "dicking around in photoshop" (and I actually like the default face )
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:12:48 GMT
The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. While that might be true, you have to keep in might that there is a difference between making engine render a face and "dicking around in photoshop" (and I actually like the default face ) Well that's true, but I suppose I expected her to look more polished, like the advisors in DA:I.
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Post by Reznore on Feb 12, 2017 21:13:29 GMT
To you maybe, but to me it's more the skin, the eyebrows, and the proportions. For a close up like this ? The second picture looks really weird and uncanny valley to me. She really looks like a barbie *shrug*
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Post by Vall on Feb 12, 2017 21:14:42 GMT
While that might be true, you have to keep in might that there is a difference between making engine render a face and "dicking around in photoshop" (and I actually like the default face ) Well that's true, but I suppose I expected her to look more polished, like the advisors in DA:I. We might have to wait for next trailer or the release to pass judgement, because those kits look wonky
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:15:06 GMT
To you maybe, but to me it's more the skin, the eyebrows, and the proportions. For a close up like this ? The second picture looks really weird and uncanny valley to me. She really looks like a barbie *shrug* Guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. I don't see barbie at all.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:15:55 GMT
Well that's true, but I suppose I expected her to look more polished, like the advisors in DA:I. We might have to wait for next trailer or the release to pass judgement, because those kits look wonky Hopefully the shots get better the more time goes on. They still have a month to finish the little details.
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Post by Cirvante on Feb 12, 2017 21:19:46 GMT
The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. While that might be true, you have to keep in might that there is a difference between making engine render a face and "dicking around in photoshop" (and I actually like the default face ) True, but come on. They had this to work with and that's what they came up with?
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Post by Serza on Feb 12, 2017 21:46:57 GMT
The key word is "Photoshop" in case you missed it, Dazz.
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Post by Vall on Feb 12, 2017 21:48:18 GMT
While that might be true, you have to keep in might that there is a difference between making engine render a face and "dicking around in photoshop" (and I actually like the default face ) True, but come on. They had this to work with and that's what they came up with? Can't see the pic. for some reason, but I'm going to assume it's the face model and...I believe the vanilla face is closer to her than the photoshoped version. I can appreciate the effort whoever did it put into it, but they went overboard with it imho. That's just my opinion though, no need to go spread it around.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 12, 2017 21:48:24 GMT
The key word is "Photoshop" in case you missed it, Dazz. Hey Serza, can you be any more condescending? I think you missed a drop of disdain there.
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Post by Serza on Feb 12, 2017 21:51:28 GMT
Well, if there was any, I just didn't check my background properly. That stuff happens, with AP.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 13, 2017 3:49:50 GMT
I prefer the original minus the dead eyes of course. I'm not exactly a fan of the barbie face + shiny hair but anyway some people are going to mod their Sara(h) to look like the photoshop one. The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. You realize that there is almost nothing more fake and unrealistic than a magazine ad, right?
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 13, 2017 3:53:28 GMT
The retouched on just looks more real to me. The one on the left is very obviously animated, whereas the one on the right almost feels as if it could be pulled from a magazine ad. You realize that there is almost nothing more fake and unrealistic than a magazine ad, right? Still looks a hell of a lot more like an authentic person than the one on the left. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 13, 2017 4:18:54 GMT
You realize that there is almost nothing more fake and unrealistic than a magazine ad, right? Still looks a hell of a lot more like an authentic person than the one on the left. That's all I'm saying. The one on the left looks like an authentic person with no make up or touch ups -- the one on the right, frankly, looks like someone who's had their eyes and nose shrunken down via devious voodoo magic.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 13, 2017 4:20:41 GMT
Still looks a hell of a lot more like an authentic person than the one on the left. That's all I'm saying. The one on the left looks like an authentic person with no make up or touch ups -- the one on the right, frankly, looks like someone who's had their eyes and nose shrunken down via devious voodoo magic. I guess we see different things. No need to get defensive or dismissive; I just think the one on the left really looks like a game animation, and I was hoping our engine had come along a little further than that.
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Post by Panda on Feb 13, 2017 6:30:49 GMT
Other looks like Mass Effect character, other like jrpg or chinese/korean MMORPG one. It certainly doesn't look-like ME character to me.
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