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Post by sharkboy421 on May 12, 2017 15:32:48 GMT
Personally? I'm good with them scanning a supermodel's face for Sara Ryder. I am not good with them trying to make Sara Ryder's face into a supermodel's. Her structure and tones can be tweaked without forcing me to have a protagonist that carefully applies lipstick and blush before going into the field to fight. I really like Sara's default face. I do not like the new makeover. I prefer 1.05 Sara as well. I don't even exactly dislike the changes, I just dislike that it happened with no warning and no way to go back, so my character is now different part way through the campaign. Its really jarring.
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Post by Serza on May 12, 2017 16:14:33 GMT
I'm not entirely a fan of changes, either, but I mostly don't give a damn.
There is a point about the whole thing that you don't apply makeup before combat, though. You apply camopaint. Or, if you're like me, you have a balaclava-scarf thingy you pull up and are done with it.
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Post by luckystarr on May 12, 2017 17:21:01 GMT
I think Sara's hair looks a bit different in 1.06 than they used to Scott's, too. Glossy and unnatural, like plastic. I wonder if it's a bug.
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Post by izut on May 12, 2017 17:26:10 GMT
I think Sara's hair looks a bit different in 1.06 than they used to Scott's, too. Glossy and unnatural, like plastic. I wonder if it's a bug. They look more natural to me. Natural hair are shiny. Same with her lips. Previous were too pale compared to real human. I looked at close ups of her face and there's no make-up addition at all.
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Post by izut on May 12, 2017 17:27:15 GMT
Scott's, too. Glossy and unnatural, like plastic. I wonder if it's a bug. They look more natural to me. Natural hair are shiny and Ryder's aren't even close to Lara Croft's Same with her lips. Previous were too pale compared to real human. I looked at close ups of her face and there's no make-up addition at all.
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Post by yeah rip on May 12, 2017 17:36:56 GMT
Does anyone have an opinion of the new changes to default Sara? I understand from other threads its very hit or miss. I said it here and in another thread already, but I'll say it again - I hate them The pink lipstick doesn't look great on her, the new hair texture is too shiny, she's back to looking kinda soulless for some reason. Overall, she looks like a doll now, imo, not in a good way. But for me, it's not about her appearance itself - I'm not a fan of her new look, but she doesnt look terrible - it's about changing something in a character more than a month after the game's release. The default protagonist's face, no less. It's not fair to the players who chose her default look for their gameplays, because their character pretty much has a different look now and it wasn't something they had any say in (though I know there are people who like her new look and that's cool). I just hate that they wanted to appease those who called her 'ugly' so much (because I can't imagine any other reason why they'd do it) that they changed their work post-release. Rant over. I do hope there'll be some mods that would make her look like her 1.05 self, or at least make her lips the way they were.
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Post by yeah rip on May 12, 2017 17:50:43 GMT
Scott's, too. Glossy and unnatural, like plastic. I wonder if it's a bug. They look more natural to me. Natural hair are shiny. Same with her lips. Previous were too pale compared to real human. I looked at close ups of her face and there's no make-up addition at all. There are different kinds of shiny - the new hair doesn't look like a natural shine, imo, more like a wig or hair on a doll. Sara's lips looked perfectly natural to me and not too pale at all. I have naturally pale lips and they look just as light or lighter than her 1.05 ones did. Her new lips are a shade of pink that contrasts with her skin tone in a bad way, and they look almost purple in some lighting. I don't know if it was intended to be natural or lipstick, but it looks like the latter because the color doesn't match her skin tone. Just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 18:51:42 GMT
They added specular maps to the hair i think. Which gives it a certain shine, or highlights it. Not a fan, and it looks really bad on dark hair.
As for Sara? If you want to make changes, just let us change it. Make her default customisable.
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Post by yeah rip on May 12, 2017 18:58:57 GMT
They added specular maps to the hair i think. Which gives it a certain shine, or highlights it. Not a fan, and it looks really bad on dark hair. As for Sara? If you want to make changes, just let us change it. Make her default customisable. This would be ideal. Though I imagine customizing a unique look with an actual face model like Sara and Scott could be tricky, but at least changing makeup and hair should be an option, imo.
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Post by brandoftime on May 12, 2017 20:32:52 GMT
They added specular maps to the hair i think. Which gives it a certain shine, or highlights it. Not a fan, and it looks really bad on dark hair. As for Sara? If you want to make changes, just let us change it. Make her default customisable. This would be ideal. Though I imagine customizing a unique look with an actual face model like Sara and Scott could be tricky, but at least changing makeup and hair should be an option, imo. Is this the approach they're making here? i.imgur.com/u7EwrTu.jpg
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Post by sgtsteel91 on May 12, 2017 21:04:49 GMT
Wow, Sara looks a lot better in the opening parts since the patch
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Post by Gilsa on May 12, 2017 21:53:01 GMT
I don't really have a strong opinion on the cosmetic changes to Sara, but I do sympathize because players are powerless to modify her face if they don't agree with it. The hair shine is a little too strong so I suspect they'll tweak it in the next patch to balance it a bit more. kunoichi2017 -- My theory is that since the collar is already starting to clip through Scott's armor, that the chestpiece is probably extends out further on Sara due to the bust, which puts the collar behind it. I have not used that armor on either character so I can't say for sure.
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Post by kunoichi2017 on May 13, 2017 14:55:41 GMT
I don't really have a strong opinion on the cosmetic changes to Sara, but I do sympathize because players are powerless to modify her face if they don't agree with it. The hair shine is a little too strong so I suspect they'll tweak it in the next patch to balance it a bit more. kunoichi2017 -- My theory is that since the collar is already starting to clip through Scott's armor, that the chestpiece is probably extends out further on Sara due to the bust, which puts the collar behind it. I have not used that armor on either character so I can't say for sure. Thank you for answering, I can understand that. With that in mind, it doesn't bother as much anymore.
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Post by yeah rip on May 13, 2017 15:51:26 GMT
Besides the lips, it looks like they also thinned Sara's jaw (maybe not though, hard to tell), thinned and sort of reshaped her lower lip and gave her permanent bedroom eyes. w h y ? The lower lip is the most jarring to me personally, after the lipstick, it just makes her look less like herself, imo. Wonder how will they "improve" her in the next patch - full glam makeup? Give her a different face model entirely? Turn her into an asari? Sorry for the salt, guys, but this is not my beautiful wife.
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Post by Serza on May 13, 2017 16:07:54 GMT
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Post by sgtsteel91 on May 13, 2017 19:12:45 GMT
My opinion, but I think Sara still looks good, based on that video I posted
Much better than what she was like at release
Although I think the lipstick could be toned down
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Post by vonuber on May 13, 2017 20:47:07 GMT
I prefer mine over the default tbh:
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Post by ToSch on May 13, 2017 21:13:21 GMT
I like the "revised" version of Sara. I just would like to have the 1.5 lip color back. Looks to shiny or glossy now, imo. Not sure if I like that. And her new casual attire? That outfit is cool for the Tempest. Not so cool for first contact with the Angara or the Nexus. Don't wanna see Sk8er Boi Sara Ryder in the history books.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 13, 2017 21:19:08 GMT
I prefer mine over the default tbh: yeah she's cute
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Post by sgtsteel91 on May 13, 2017 22:31:46 GMT
I like the "revised" version of Sara. I just would like to have the 1.5 lip color back. Looks to shiny or glossy now, imo. Not sure if I like that. And her new casual attire? That outfit is cool for the Tempest. Not so cool for first contact with the Angara or the Nexus. Don't wanna see Sk8er Boi Sara Ryder in the history books. The only place I think that jersey attite would be remotely appropriate would be during Jaal's romance scene by the waterfall.
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Post by treoir on May 14, 2017 7:31:46 GMT
I like how they have improved eyes - they look so much better now.
I do not like how Sara smiles when she's talking about how her father died. It's not even a maniacal smile - it's just... off?
I think hair in this game needs some work - it looks plastic.
I wish eyebrows could be customized.
Anyways, it seems like they have people working on fixing things, but they also have plenty of things to work on...
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Post by izut on May 14, 2017 12:32:40 GMT
I like how they have improved eyes - they look so much better now. I do not like how Sara smiles when she's talking about how her father died. It's not even a maniacal smile - it's just... off?I think hair in this game needs some work - it looks plastic.I wish eyebrows could be customized. Anyways, it seems like they have people working on fixing things, but they also have plenty of things to work on... She's not smiling anymore. Plastic hair, you say... hmm... Seriously, compared to how they looked like, they look very natural right now.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 14, 2017 16:34:14 GMT
I like how they have improved eyes - they look so much better now. I do not like how Sara smiles when she's talking about how her father died. It's not even a maniacal smile - it's just... off? I think hair in this game needs some work - it looks plastic.I wish eyebrows could be customized. Anyways, it seems like they have people working on fixing things, but they also have plenty of things to work on... To be fair it's better than DAI's hair but as for it looking plastic I think that's more to do with the engine than anything else as a lot of Frostbite games look that way a bit to me DAI suffered from this problem as well but I do think that MEA is an improvement on DAI in that area though so maybe things are going to get better eventually. Frostbite does great when it comes to scenery and the like but when it comes to people and hair it does sometimes struggle it's just one of those things unfortunately
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Post by OrbitalWings on May 14, 2017 17:06:52 GMT
Well, better late than never, right? =/ I just heard the exact phrase you originally asked for and remembered this conversation. (First time I heard it though!) The line happens when Ryder wakes up and finds out what happened to Dad. Choose "If there's no other choice" and then the emotional option. Cora: "You're the new Pathfinder, Sara." [If there's no other choice]
Ryder: "Whoa. Well ... if that's how it has to be ..." Liam: "Don't sell yourself short. I think you can do it." Ryder: "Cora?" Cora: "It's what he wanted. I won't stand in the way." Cora: "But being Pathfinder is a serious job. You sure you're ready for this?"
[Emotional: It's in my blood.] Ryder: "It's why I'm here. Exploring the unknown." Liam: "Just like your dad, huh?"
Ooooooh good to know! Given the further visual improvements we've had since I made that fan trailer, and the incoming CC patch which might lead me to altering my Ryder slightly anyway, I definitely plan to do a 'redux' version of it. Will use the correct line when I do
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Post by vonuber on May 17, 2017 22:57:03 GMT
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