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Post by jjdxb on Nov 29, 2016 5:17:23 GMT
We know the reapers operate on a cycle to take out species when they get a certain size, so presumably Milky Way species never get large enough to start seriously contemplating extra-galatic colonisation efforts.
So in the billions of years following the creation of the Reapers, why haven't Andromedan species come to the Milky Way? If there aren't Reapers or something similar in Andromeda, their civilisations should not be getting artificially shorted lifespans and so some of them must have at least contemplated it. I'm am absolutely not suggesting the existence of Andromedan Reapers, as far as we can really say they are a Milky Way thing only.
Other than the RL reasons for the developers ("we never planned for Andromeda"), this is something that the developers will need to address in some form.
Maybe the Andromedan civilisations know about the reapers because their previous attempts to colonise happened just before the Reapers re-emerge from Dark Space and the colonists got wiped out. We know there are civilisations that died off (the Remnant). Perhaps (very "luckily") by some coincidence the Kett are the same "age" as the milky way species and just happened to be there to fill the void left by the Remnant suddenly disappearing. Regardless, I have a feeling that the Remnant will be important in answering this question.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 29, 2016 5:26:21 GMT
Well, they could have been a spacefaring lot for a far shorter span of time compared to what went on in the Milky Way. Or maybe without Mass Relays, the galaxy is just a much bigger place to them than even the Milky Way to its respective natives.
Or…..they did try, and they had extremely bad timing and watched the last gasp of the prothean empire and shared their fate.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 29, 2016 5:49:18 GMT
Maybe they did. They came here while the reapers were harvesting and were fired upon. The ship was badly damaged that it crashed on whatever planet killing all onboard. The Andromeda Initiative found the remains of the ship. Studied it. Use what they could to come up with the idea to build ships that can travel to Andromeda.
So not only are they going to Andromeda for exploration reasons, but to inform the next of kin what happened to the ship and those who died. hahaha
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 29, 2016 5:49:57 GMT
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Maybe they have and failed. Maybe the expedition was not prepared for the voyage. Maybe they all died in the ship(s). Maybe... maybe.
We don't know.
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Nov 29, 2016 6:40:22 GMT
Because they know better than to show up on Commander Shepard's turf.
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Post by bshep on Nov 29, 2016 7:10:53 GMT
Maybe they did. They came here while the reapers were harvesting and were fired upon. The ship was badly damaged that it crashed on whatever planet killing all onboard. The Andromeda Initiative found the remains of the ship. Studied it. Use what they could to come up with the idea to build ships that can travel to Andromeda. So not only are they going to Andromeda for exploration reasons, but to inform the nest of kin what happened to the ship and those who died. hahaha Joking aside, if they did come somewhere in the past and settled some star cluster in the Milky Way they probably got a really nasty surprise when the Reapers cycle started.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 29, 2016 7:30:22 GMT
They could, statistically they would end up in growth season and probably had few thousands of years to settle, not if it mattered to our local robo cuttlefish. Even if they did manage to contact Andromeda about them, it wouldn't matter since their civilization must be long gone in Andromeda as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 7:31:47 GMT
they havent because the milky way is full of "aliens from another galaxy force field space magic".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 7:47:56 GMT
Maybe they did... but so many cycles ago, that we simply "would not know them".
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 29, 2016 9:48:30 GMT
The passage of time is a funny thing; who's to say what came from where and when did they come?
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Post by guanxi on Nov 29, 2016 10:24:18 GMT
Maybe Leviathans fleed to Andromeda and tried different solutions over there?
More likely is the fact that the premise is completely ridiculous... 98% of our galaxy is unexplored and Andromeda is way bigger. The secret motivation for our trip is impending doom and continuity of civilization.
Without that they have less motivation to want to come here then we do to go over there. Unless of course one civilization conquered or was driven from entire galaxy and is looking for more pillaging in which case who's to say our galaxy is the best pillaging option in range in this corner of the universe?
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Post by kumazan on Nov 29, 2016 10:43:26 GMT
Maybe they did, and they are peacefully living in part of the unexplored 99% of the Milky Way. Or their mission(s) failed for whatever reason. Or they are (were) a Reaper now. I'm not sure BioWare will bother with an explanation to this, I suppose there are other motivations of alien species that are more interesting to discover than why they didn't come to our own galaxy before. Or so I hope.
And if they eventually do explain this, please may it not be a "cause they're not as daring as awesome humans".
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Post by Gileadan on Nov 29, 2016 10:57:26 GMT
Maybe they also need about 600 years to make the journey and arrive about the same time as the arks arrive in their galaxy.
Or maybe because they know something we don't - that the entire idea is just crazy while the vast majority of your own galaxy remains unexplored. The Milky Way has hundreds of billions of star systems while Andromeda has an estimated trillion stars, after all. Or maybe they don't have a story ending to flee from.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 29, 2016 11:04:30 GMT
Maybe they also need about 600 years to make the journey and arrive about the same time as the arks arrive in their galaxy. Or maybe because they know something we don't - that the entire idea is just crazy while the vast majority of your own galaxy remains unexplored. The Milky Way has hundreds of billions of star systems while Andromeda has an estimated trillion stars, after all. Or maybe they don't have a story ending to flee from. Yeah, while Bioware might come up with an explanation for the reverse not happening (though to be fair up to the last decade nobody, as far as know for now, thought about traveling to another galaxy in the MW as well), the reason behind is not in-game.
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Post by traks on Nov 29, 2016 11:06:44 GMT
What would they want in another galaxy? Oh, wait: what do we want in their galaxy?
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Post by Iakus on Nov 29, 2016 14:34:23 GMT
Because without Reapers, synthetic life wiped out all organic life in Andromeda. It is inevitable...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 14:36:34 GMT
Maybe Leviathans fleed to Andromeda and tried different solutions over there? More likely is the fact that the premise is completely ridiculous... 98% of our galaxy is unexplored and Andromeda is way bigger. The secret motivation for our trip is impending doom and continuity of civilization. Without that they have less motivation to want to come here then we do to go over there. Unless of course one civilization conquered or was driven from entire galaxy and is looking for more pillaging in which case who's to say our galaxy is the best pillaging option in range in this corner of the universe? I also think, that the "official motive" for the Andromeda Initiative is just BS for the public. I would like to learn as Ryder as we play throughout the game, that the real reason for the whole expedition was, that founders of the expedition simply knew about the impending invasion of Milky Way by the Reapers, even years before Shepard (Saren is a small example). The Expedition might simply be comprised of those who believed in the Reaper invasion, but didn't believe Milky Way would stand any chance against them, so they just decided to sign up and leave before sheet hits the pan. It wouldn't be far fetched, as construction of such Arks would take time and the Initiative was founded years before ME1.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 14:59:30 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 29, 2016 15:07:54 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way. In theory, they could have. But Andromeda doesn't have relays, Bioware confirmed that. I don't think they'd had gone in Andromeda without building the same system they created in the MW.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 29, 2016 15:13:43 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way. Wouldn't that be something? On one of the planets that Ryder is exploring, a dead reaper is found. They come to the conclusion its some ship that belong to a civilization from long ago. I doubt Bioware would have that in the game, but it would be interesting.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 29, 2016 15:16:17 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way. Wouldn't that be something? On one of the planets that Ryder is exploring, a dead reaper is found. They come to the conclusion its some ship that belong to a civilization from long ago. I doubt Bioware would have that in the game, but it would be interesting. It would create a good plothole, that's for sure.
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Post by KamenRyder on Nov 29, 2016 15:28:46 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way. Nah, Leviathan created the Catalyst to solve a problem in the galaxy which then created the Reapers to do it's work all in the Milky Way. No where else. Real answer is it doesn't matter it's all to escape the bad writing from the trilogy. Bioware decided for a fresh start in a new galaxy with as fewer ties to the main trilogy as possible. It was either that or rebooting the series lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 15:47:19 GMT
They came, they saw, they tried to save us from the ending.
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Post by fade9wayz on Nov 29, 2016 15:50:31 GMT
They didn't like the look of the MW and went to another, more sexy one, like Triangulum. Or they were en-route for the MW and got stopped at Fornax Dwarf.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 29, 2016 16:02:49 GMT
It would have been no problem for the Reapers to get to Andromeda. Maybe the Reapers were annihilating civilizations in the entire Local Group. Vigil speculated that the Repears went into hibernation between cycles, but maybe they were busy in other galaxies during the years that they were missing from the Milky Way. Nah, Leviathan created the Catalyst to solve a problem in the galaxy which then created the Reapers to do it's work all in the Milky Way. No where else. Real answer is it doesn't matter it's all to escape the bad writing from the trilogy. Bioware decided for a fresh start in a new galaxy with as fewer ties to the main trilogy as possible. It was either that or rebooting the series lol While I agree that Andromeda is pretty much running away from the garbage fire that is the trilogy's story, sadly it isn't that simple. Both the Leviathans and the Catalyst confirm that the Reapers were created to preserve life at any cost. The galaxy has never been stated as a qualifier. And the harvests demonstrate what extremes the Reapers will go through to preserve their mandate.
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