Everything Star Wars!!! Even the new Disney Bantha food. That's not Star Wars, but oh well*

Oh, wow, I went to see the new Star Wars 3 times. Watching Rey pick up the light saber was a giant "Fuuuuck, yeah!" moment! Gave me tinglies and everything. Best Star Wars movie by far. 

Grew up on them. My older sis and mom dragged me to see The Empire Strikes Back in theaters when I was too young to appreciate it.

That's right! I am DEEVINE!

Mmmm... That you? You look good!

Thanks for proving my point

dude reaction gifs lmao

I wish they would make Kotor era movies. Love to see a Revan and The Exile movie. Lucas never realized what a cash cow he had in his hands. So many eras in the Star Wars universe that can be capitalized on.

They ripped off the book so they just reversed the scene to fit their script was just basically the plot of three separate EU novels.

Han takes the place of Mara Jade in that scenario with her dying at the hands of the newly minted Darth Caedus, and her still believing that there is good in him, hope for redemption despite that he has gone full blown Sith Lord.

o.o That was a tragic scene, she's practically a secondary mother figure to him by that point, and he guts her.

He stares into her eyes as the light leaves them, leaving her dead and broken to be found by her husband.

Jacen Solo ceases to exist, Darth Caedus is born.

All without any of the overly emotional daddy issues or any of that bullshit, Caedus was driven by ego, and self importance, he viewed betraying the Jedi and his allies as the most prudent steps to avert coming cataclysm. He's pragmatic, intelligent, not a whinny teenager. You feel shock at the fact this kid who was raised by Jedi his entire life, fought for them time and again, grew up in the shadow of Luke Skywalker, Kyle Katarn and numerous other legends of the New Order could cast it all aside.

He's mature, and his thoughts and actions are given appropriate amounts of explanation and thought.

Hell even as he enters his final battle with his sister during the conclusion of the Second Galactic War with Darth Caedus at the head of it, and covert backing by the Empire(which still openly exists in the EU) he finds the entire situation disgusting. The rebellion he is being forced to fight for the sake of claiming power, the inability of anyone to see what is coming, the fact he is forced to play the villain when he is only doing what has always done. Been pragmatic. Don't be mistaken though, he's a Darksider through and through, he murders, lies and uses rage and ambition to fuel his power.

But that's just the difference between Kylo Ren and Darth Caedus. Jacen Solo was a fallen Jedi Knight with the abilities and skill set extending well into Mastery, as a Sith Lord he just grew even more powerful, in scope of ability, and usage of ability there can be no compare. Kylo on the other hand fights like some sort of mindless Sith berserker, some dipshit with no understanding of the force or how to draw it beyond using primal rage, he has no real training be it from his own order or the Jedi. so really when it comes down to it. Its just a another difference between these two different but basically the same person characters.

With Jacen you knew him from birth to death, there are numerous novels, comics and what have you detailing his life throughout it. You see his growth, his maturation, his failures, his triumphs and at the end of the day. You invest.

Kylo is just some jackass in a robe with a stupid looking mask.

Even when you learn who is, why should you care?

That's the one.

And I agree with everything you said regarding Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus and Emo Ren. Exceptionally well put.