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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:53:27 GMT
Nöt önly was Michael Jördan the greatest basketball player öf all time. He was öne öf the greatest businessmen toö. I dönt remember at what pöint exactly in his career it was but he was appröached by a Demöcrat för an endörsement. He declined and said “Republicans buy shöes toö”. Shöuld entertainers share their pölitical views? That is för them tö decide. But they need tö realize, like Michael did, yöu will effectively turn öff half öf the fans.
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 16, 2018 16:08:05 GMT
You know I would, but that's, like, the BEST part of the prequel trilogy - the whole "political machinations" thing through misdirection, fear, and conflict - to undermine institutions that get in the way and assume "unlimited powwwaaaa!!!!!"
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 16, 2018 16:14:27 GMT
Hmmm... apparently youtube figured out I like TLJ and threw this video my way:
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Post by House Targaryen on Jun 16, 2018 17:58:03 GMT
That's the Evil Empire they should have taken out.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 16, 2018 18:44:30 GMT
With the recent revelations on what Lucas would have done with the third trilogy I am very, VERY glad Disney bought Lucasfilm. *shivers* the horror.
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 16, 2018 19:14:21 GMT
With the recent revelations on what Lucas would have done with the third trilogy I am very, VERY glad Disney bought Lucasfilm. *shivers* the horror. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must unlearn what you have learned." - Yoda, Empire Strikes Back*strokes chin* I don't know, it could have been interesting but it would have placed the spirituality in Star Wars into a weird cloak of science fiction (as the interview suggested). For all we know the Force ghosts are really material beings and Whills that manage to bond. Something similar I think may be in the cards for the Dragon Age universe. Its always dangerous messing with that kind of mythology though - look what one mention of midi-chlorians did to the fans.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 16, 2018 21:28:26 GMT
THE PAIN & THE DISAPPOINTMENT CAUSED BY DISNEY FOLKS and SJWS
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 4:18:46 GMT
With the recent revelations on what Lucas would have done with the third trilogy I am very, VERY glad Disney bought Lucasfilm. *shivers* the horror. What was Lucas planning on doing? Can't say I've heard anything then again I just can't bring myself to care about Disney Wars at all.
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Post by newnation on Jun 17, 2018 18:10:30 GMT
I really wish JJ Abrams handled this whole trilogy. I really want to know what was in those notes for the sequel that Rian Johnson completely ignored. Instead we got pointless romances out of nowhere between Finn/Rose Kylo/Rey, a completely different character as Luke Skywalker, a useless Leia, and wasted storylines and characters from the last movie.
Say what you will about JJ's style and TFA but you can't deny that he did honor the old characters and legacy, introduced new characters, and began a passing of the torch that didn't shit on the original trilogy characters like TLJ did.
Also, I wish we had more standalone movies like Rogue One. We need more movies that establish new characters or introduce people, events, and places from other Star Wars media *cough* KOTOR *cough*. We don't really need movies about characters that were already established in the movies. If anything they should be supporting characters like Vader, Tarkin, and Leia were in Rogue One. However, I will say that Boba Fett is probably one of the few original characters that deserve a standalone.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jun 17, 2018 19:31:33 GMT
With the recent revelations on what Lucas would have done with the third trilogy I am very, VERY glad Disney bought Lucasfilm. *shivers* the horror. Yes because "it's time for the Jedi to End" is soo much more respectful and keeping with the spirit of the originals and what fans liked about them than "Whills" and Force microbes. It may be that Star Wars as we know and love it would have ended one way or the other. But I for one would rather have had it die for something greater than assembly line rehashes and remixes with virtue signalling bullshit sprinkled on top. Lucas' ideas at least seem to have a vision behind them, something other than just " sell to milk literally every single dolt on the planet". Not that Lucas wouldn't have tried to milk it either. At the most cynical business reading, that's what everything outside the trilogies is. But to pretend Disney has any other reverence other than money above George Lucas is almost insulting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 7:06:02 GMT
The önly defense I’ve ever seen öf the new mövies is “well they are better than the prequels”.
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 18, 2018 8:25:05 GMT
I just finished reading Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, and if fans have been reading other books like this in the EU about the post-RotJ time (I did read but have completely forgotten the original Thrawn trilogy), I can see why they would be annoyed with the latest TFA and TLJ movies. Of all the interesting stories you could tell in the Star Wars universe, why retell the original trilogy with fanservice callbacks and replacement characters? Plus, there is a whole dimension here about the Force and the Dark vs the Light, and darkness within Luke which is pretty interesting but barely alluded to in the TLJ. The new films could have gone in a whole host of directions, instead they just created yet another last Jedi. P.S. Still surprised that Fenn Shysa made the leap from comics into a novel.
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Post by Pearl on Jun 18, 2018 8:31:09 GMT
The önly defense I’ve ever seen öf the new mövies is “well they are better than the prequels”. That's debatable. RotS I'd argue is simply straight up better. The others I'd say are more or less comparable to TFA. TLJ is plainly the worst so far in my opinion. I unironically think RotS is better than New Hope. Even if you disagree with that hot take, I think it's undeniable that RotS was the best prequel.
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Post by mybudgee on Jun 18, 2018 9:00:50 GMT
The önly defense I’ve ever seen öf the new mövies is “well they are better than the prequels”. That's debatable. RotS I'd argue is simply straight up better. The others I'd say are more or less comparable to TFA. TLJ is plainly the worst so far in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 11:38:23 GMT
Im nöt saying the prequels are better. Thats just the önly defense I see fröm the peöple whö like Mickey Wars.
As för the prequels, they are just funny för the memes.
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Post by docsteely on Jun 18, 2018 13:54:25 GMT
I just finished reading Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, and if fans have been reading other books like this in the EU about the post-RotJ time (I did read but have completely forgotten the original Thrawn trilogy), I can see why they would be annoyed with the latest TFA and TLJ movies. Of all the interesting stories you could tell in the Star Wars universe, why retell the original trilogy with fanservice callbacks and replacement characters? Plus, there is a whole dimension here about the Force and the Dark vs the Light, and darkness within Luke which is pretty interesting but barely alluded to in the TLJ. The new films could gone in a whole host of directions, instead they just created yet another last Jedi.Ditching out the EU was the first sign of things to come. There are so many deep stories in it that could have been used: Mara Jade, Jacen Solo, Vestara, Kyle Katarn to name just a few characters of the EU that would have deserved a movie. Instead they presented us not another last Jedi, but The Real Last Jedi 'cuz the movie completely killed Star Wars for me.
Probably I'm too afraid of strong female characters (despite having already named two above)...
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 18, 2018 17:34:15 GMT
I just finished reading Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, and if fans have been reading other books like this in the EU about the post-RotJ time (I did read but have completely forgotten the original Thrawn trilogy), I can see why they would be annoyed with the latest TFA and TLJ movies. Of all the interesting stories you could tell in the Star Wars universe, why retell the original trilogy with fanservice callbacks and replacement characters? Plus, there is a whole dimension here about the Force and the Dark vs the Light, and darkness within Luke which is pretty interesting but barely alluded to in the TLJ. The new films could gone in a whole host of directions, instead they just created yet another last Jedi.Ditching out the EU was the first sign of things to come. There are so many deep stories in it that could have been used: Mara Jade, Jacen Solo, Vestara, Kyle Katarn to name just a few characters of the EU that would have deserved a movie. Instead they presented us not another last Jedi, but The Real Last Jedi 'cuz the movie completely killed Star Wars for me.
Probably I'm too afraid of strong female characters (despite having already named two above)... I still can't say that I dislike the two sequels we got, but with this story I feel like Disney is going to pay a price for their lack of vision.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 18, 2018 19:21:37 GMT
Im nöt saying the prequels are better. Thats just the önly defense I see fröm the peöple whö like Mickey Wars. As för the prequels, they are just funny för the memes.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jun 19, 2018 4:24:34 GMT
Jedi masters are overrated. Arrogant, blind self righteous, self serving twits.
They sure screwed up that prophecy thing with Anakin bringing "balance" to the Force. You have thousands of light side users of the Force and two dark siders of the Force, how do you think that balance thing is going to work? Something like a massive purge of the light side to bring balance to the Force, that's how.
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