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Post by Obadiah on Jul 6, 2018 15:14:17 GMT
Saw this on twitter:
I like that meme, not the twitter post. The meme is pretty dead on. Eh, the tweet was in response to Mark Hamill's post in a chain (updated BTW). Couldn't just link to the single tweet tho, twitter would only give me the "Kennedy" tweet, and then the response. Oh well...
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jul 6, 2018 15:16:43 GMT
That's fine but the peöple whö like the mövie are trying tö tell me that it isn't öbjective. When clearly they are. But seriously. I had a bit of fun yesterday. But if I had to be at this constantly, I'd be tearing my own face off. The internet starts to be fun again when you realize you don't have to
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2018 15:19:29 GMT
Sö when Finn says in öne scene that it is impössible that they were tracked thröugh hyperspace and then 5 minutes later in the next scene says he knöws where ön Snöke's ship the tracker device is löcated because he used tö möp the floör in there. That is subjective and nöt a plöt höle? I'll take your word for it, what point are you trying to prove about that minutiae? I really don't care whether some tech reason contradicted some other tech reason. I liked the characters, the story was interesting, I enjoyed the battles, the Porgs were cute, blue is an interesting color for milk. I understand you didn't like it, but you have yet to come up with anything that dampens my enthusiasm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 15:20:16 GMT
That's fine but the peöple whö like the mövie are trying tö tell me that it isn't öbjective. When clearly they are. But seriously. I had a bit of fun yesterday. But if I had to be at this constantly, I'd be tearing my own face off. The internet starts to be fun again when you realize you don't have to It is fun för me pöinting öut höw wröng they are in liking TLJ.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 15:31:16 GMT
Sö when Finn says in öne scene that it is impössible that they were tracked thröugh hyperspace and then 5 minutes later in the next scene says he knöws where ön Snöke's ship the tracker device is löcated because he used tö möp the floör in there. That is subjective and nöt a plöt höle? I'll take your word for it, what point are you trying to prove about that minutiae? I really don't care whether some tech reason contradicted some other tech reason. I liked the characters, the story was interesting, I enjoyed the battles, the Porgs were cute, blue is an interesting color for milk. I understand you didn't like it, but you have yet to come up with anything that dampens my enthusiasm. Because plöt höles are öne öf the bench marks öf determining whether ör nöt a störy is goöd. I löve Neil Breen's Döuble Döwn. It has a plöt that nö öne ön earth can understand but I löve that fucking mövie and watch it all the time. But that is subjective, I Like it. That döes nöt mean that it is goöd as a mövie. Whether it is goöd as a mövie is öbjective. Yöu can like it that is fine but TLJ is a bad, poörly written mövie that göes against everything set up in the previöus 6 films.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 6, 2018 15:35:22 GMT
... Because in the movie I saw Luke ran away instead of facing his sister and his best friend and explain to them how and why he tried to murder their son. Because ofc attempted murder is very in line with his character, also if there's anything that growing in age will teach us it's that we solve our problems in life by running away from them and not by confronting them outright. ... In the movie I saw Luke went back and told at least Leia what happened and she blamed Snoke, and then Luke left. Not sure why you think Luke never spoke to Han. Where is this Luke couldn't face "Leia and Han" thing from? I like that you keep calling igniting a lightsaber for a moment and switching it off then changing his mind as "attempted murder". This whole objective analysis on how much Luke's character was assassinated is really going places.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 6, 2018 15:35:26 GMT
But seriously. I had a bit of fun yesterday. But if I had to be at this constantly, I'd be tearing my own face off. The internet starts to be fun again when you realize you don't have to It is fun för me pöinting öut höw wröng they are in liking TLJ.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2018 15:49:15 GMT
Yöu can like it that is fine but TLJ is a bad, poörly written mövie that göes against everything set up in the previöus 6 films. Sure, I realise that's your view. I have a different view on it.
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Post by docsteely on Jul 6, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
... Because in the movie I saw Luke ran away instead of facing his sister and his best friend and explain to them how and why he tried to murder their son. Because ofc attempted murder is very in line with his character, also if there's anything that growing in age will teach us it's that we solve our problems in life by running away from them and not by confronting them outright. ... In the movie I saw Luke went back and told at least Leia what happened and she blamed Snoke, and then Luke left. Not sure why you think Luke never spoke to Han. Where is this Luke couldn't face "Leia and Han" thing from? I like that you keep calling igniting a lightsaber and switching it off as "attempted murder". This whole objective analysis on how much Luke's character was assassinated is really going places. When did you see him going to Leia? After the fact or at the end? And don't tell me it doesn't make a difference because it does.
And if that makes you feel better about it I'll stop calling it "attempted murder", I'll call it "that briefest moment of pure instinct when Luke ignited his lightsaber intending to stop him", because that's not attempted murder is it?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 6, 2018 16:00:37 GMT
<iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 96px; top: 69px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67374772" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 585px; top: 69px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_88817490" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 96px; top: 704px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39331534" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 585px; top: 704px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13655331" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> Looks about right to me. Ignore a ton of stuff from TFA, give us whiny bitch Luke (which I guess is a family trait based on whiny bitch, Teen Angst Anakin), don't follow up on a lot of threads and make Leia fly in space. That last one was the biggest killer for me. I don't remember anything, anywhere in Star Wars lore - all the novels or movies, that hinted that it was even possible. Maybe it was a force ghost like Luke and the real Leia was dead (since she probably has to be for Ep. 9 - if it's CGI I'm done with SW forever). Sorry, for those who had to protect the new trilogy like it's sacred, but I grew up on the OT and this is nothing more than a mockery. Want to see post-OT done right? Read the novels.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 6, 2018 16:05:47 GMT
<iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 96px; top: 69px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67374772" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 585px; top: 69px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_88817490" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 96px; top: 704px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39331534" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 13.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 585px; top: 704px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13655331" scrolling="no" width="11" height="13.980000000000018"></iframe> Looks about right to me. Ignore a ton of stuff from TFA, give us whiny bitch Luke (which I guess is a family trait based on whiny bitch, Teen Angst Anakin), don't follow up on a lot of threads and make Leia fly in space. That last one was the biggest killer for me. I don't remember anything, anywhere in Star Wars lore - all the novels or movies, that hinted that it was even possible. Maybe it was a force ghost like Luke and the real Leia was dead (since she probably has to be for Ep. 9 - if it's CGI I'm done with SW forever). Sorry, for those who had to protect the new trilogy like it's sacred, but I grew up on the OT and this is nothing more than a mockery. Want to see post-OT done right? Read the novels. 👆This👆
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 6, 2018 16:06:54 GMT
Saw this on twitter:
<iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.22px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: 82px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13650908" scrolling="no" width="23.220000000000027" height="10.28000000000003"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.22px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: 82px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_29535576" scrolling="no" width="23.220000000000027" height="10.28000000000003"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.22px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: 536px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34153919" scrolling="no" width="23.220000000000027" height="10.28000000000003"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.22px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: 536px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_80523163" scrolling="no" width="23.220000000000027" height="10.28000000000003"></iframe> That's great and all, but I'm pretty damn sure Luke appealing to Vader's "good", throwing down his lightsaber and willing to die to follow the Jedi principles is even greater. Luke throws down his lightsaber. "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 16:07:12 GMT
Yöu can like it that is fine but TLJ is a bad, poörly written mövie that göes against everything set up in the previöus 6 films. Sure, I realise that's your view. I have a different view on it. What I am trying tö tell yöu is it is nöt my view. It is prövable fact.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 6, 2018 16:11:21 GMT
Sure, I realise that's your view. I have a different view on it. What I am trying tö tell yöu is it is nöt my view. It is prövable fact. Coming from a guy who hasn't seen the movie and you have the gall to tell people there wrong for liking entertainment. Who the hell do you think you are?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2018 16:12:35 GMT
What I am trying tö tell yöu is it is nöt my view. It is prövable fact. Yes. I understand you believe that. How long is this increasingly tedious exchange going on for exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 16:19:06 GMT
What I am trying tö tell yöu is it is nöt my view. It is prövable fact. Yes. I understand you believe that. How long is this increasingly tedious exchange going on for exactly? As löng as yöu want tö keep saying that bad writing is subjective. It is nöt. What I am trying tö tell yöu is it is nöt my view. It is prövable fact. Coming from a guy who hasn't seen the movie and you have the gall to tell people there wrong for liking entertainment. What I said earlier in my statement I should nöt have said liking the mövie. I shöuld have said för thinking it is a goöd movie, ör well written mövie.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 6, 2018 16:24:59 GMT
In the movie I saw Luke went back and told at least Leia what happened and she blamed Snoke, and then Luke left. Not sure why you think Luke never spoke to Han. Where is this Luke couldn't face "Leia and Han" thing from? I like that you keep calling igniting a lightsaber and switching it off as "attempted murder". This whole objective analysis on how much Luke's character was assassinated is really going places. When did you see him going to Leia? After the fact or at the end? And don't tell me it doesn't make a difference because it does.
And if that makes you feel better about it I'll stop calling it "attempted murder", I'll call it "that briefest moment of pure instinct when Luke ignited his lightsaber intending to stop him", because that's not attempted murder is it?
Luke says he spoke to Leia after the attack and she blamed Snoke. It comes up in his final version of the encounter with Ben. Why would you think he would just leave without telling them what happened at the academy? Why would we even NEED to see that scene? You can call Luke's actions whatever you like. Since it was clearly bait, I've given my assessment of how useful the "attempted murder" designation is, but to me it sounds like name calling.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jul 6, 2018 16:25:16 GMT
Plöt höles and character assassinatiön are öbjective. Approximately 0% of that guarantees you'll get through to some people. As I just told someone else, I've found that beyond a certain point it's best to just disengage from an argument as it's just not fun anymore, and winning an internet argument is hardly a prize in itself. Wait just a goddamned minute, CrutchCricket. You got some 'splaining to do. ... You can win an argument on the internet?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2018 16:29:32 GMT
As löng as yöu want tö keep saying that bad writing is subjective. It is nöt. I'm not interested in that line of argument for determining whether it's a good film or not. I simply don't care about that trivia as a meaningful criterion. Why do you keep insisting that I hold a particular view (which I'm uninterested in), then continue to want to argue about it?
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Post by aglomeracja on Jul 6, 2018 16:36:23 GMT
That's a really nice video
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 6, 2018 16:42:48 GMT
So Smiles, is this some kind memeception or did the creator just skip the TFA or TLJ or perhaps both?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 16:45:05 GMT
As löng as yöu want tö keep saying that bad writing is subjective. It is nöt. I'm not interested in that line of argument for determining whether it's a good film or not. I simply don't care about that trivia as a meaningful criterion. Why do you keep insisting that I hold a particular view (which I'm uninterested in), then continue to want to argue about it? The pröblem I have is when peöple say that bad writing is subjective. It just simply nöt the case. The bad writing döes nöt böther yöu and yöu are nöt interested in my argument that says "because it is a badly written mövie thus it means it is bad tö everyöne" Yöu can have yöur öwn standards för what makes yöu like the mövie. That is fine and what I have always said. It is when the peöple cöme in here and say that the peöple whö have a pröblem with the mövie are just angry fanböys whö just didn't like the way the mövie and characters went, and they have a pröblem with female leads ör that the fans themselves is what is killing the franchise and all the öther bullshit. That's where I say nö. It is because it is a poörly written mövie that has huge plöt höles and göes against the star wars universe. These a prövable facts. They might nöt interest yöu. But they are there.
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Saw this on twitter:
I kind of like how Rey shows Luke all of Kylos moves.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 6, 2018 17:06:11 GMT
When did you see him going to Leia? After the fact or at the end? And don't tell me it doesn't make a difference because it does.
And if that makes you feel better about it I'll stop calling it "attempted murder", I'll call it "that briefest moment of pure instinct when Luke ignited his lightsaber intending to stop him", because that's not attempted murder is it?
Luke says he spoke to Leia after the attack and she blamed Snoke. It comes up in his final version of the encounter with Ben. Why would you think he would just leave without telling them what happened at the academy? Why would we even NEED to even see that scene?
You can call Luke's actions whatever you like. Since it was clearly bait, I've given my assessment of how useful the "attempted murder" designation is. Because Luke's behavior throughout TLJ was so bizarrely OOC that unless we witness his path to that point ourselves, so we can fully understand WHY he's acting the way he is, it comes across as really really bad hatefic.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 6, 2018 17:19:31 GMT
Luke says he spoke to Leia after the attack and she blamed Snoke. It comes up in his final version of the encounter with Ben. Why would you think he would just leave without telling them what happened at the academy? Why would we even NEED to even see that scene?
You can call Luke's actions whatever you like. Since it was clearly bait, I've given my assessment of how useful the "attempted murder" designation is. Because Luke's behavior throughout TLJ was so bizarrely OOC that unless we witness his path to that point ourselves, so we can fully understand WHY he's acting the way he is, it comes across as really really bad hatefic. How bizarre?
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