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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 22, 2016 22:38:28 GMT
I was listening to dvd commentary of Farscape while leveling my SWTOR toons and heard that; Delvians were supposed to be all-female blue alien race and they could mate with other alien species and uses their DNA as a framework for the progeny. even if its an undeveloped idea by the production being thrown away but still... urgh... starting to feel very put off... "love letter" indeed.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 22, 2016 23:24:31 GMT
Although, I kinda wish I knew how to get this ending slide I'm guessing it would be seen if control or synthesis is chosen or both since I've never seen that slide when I choose destroy Apparently it's a non-loyal slide. I want it now I never seen it when picking destroy even when I never did her loyalty mission. As I posted above. I believe its one of the other ending's that shows that slide. I'm also guessing that is Morinth she's after. So it would make sense that slide wouldn't be in destroy.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 23, 2016 4:43:32 GMT
I was listening to dvd commentary of Farscape while leveling my SWTOR toons and heard that; Delvians were supposed to be all-female blue alien race and they could mate with other alien species and uses their DNA as a framework for the progeny. even if its an undeveloped idea by the production being thrown away but still... urgh... starting to feel very put off... "love letter" indeed. I did hear that the endings were a rip-off of Deus Ex. Probably not surprising. Neat catch, though.
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Post by Natashina on Sept 23, 2016 5:18:38 GMT
So I just started ME1 was a brand new Shepard. For whatever reason, I went the wrong way when I landed on Eden Prime and got this bit of dialogue:
Kaidan: "What the hell are those?" Jenkins: "Gas bags. Don't worry, they're harmless."
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Post by straykat on Sept 23, 2016 5:25:58 GMT
So I just started ME1 was a brand new Shepard. For whatever reason, I went the wrong way when I landed on Eden Prime and got this bit of dialogue: Kaidan: "What the hell are those?" Jenkins: "Gas bags. Don't worry, they're harmless." Oh I always get that line, but just by running close to them. If you shoot one, then Kaidan doesn't seem to like it. "Damn!"
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Post by Natashina on Sept 23, 2016 6:11:51 GMT
Here's one I just discovered:
When Shep finds the beacon as a gal, it's Kaidan that gets too close. If you're playing a guy, it's Ashley that gets too close. Explains where the infatuation with Shepard starts.
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Post by Gourmetrix on Sept 23, 2016 14:37:23 GMT
On the PC you can use the "setGender" console command to experience a (sorta) same-sex relationship ME1 playthrough. The NPCs won't detect the sex change but the voice and face will be right, but only if you picked the default face--and the opposite gender--when you started the game. If you want your custom face to have the gay experience, you have to play through the game twice. Near the end of the first PT, use the setGender command to transition to the "wrong" gender and then finish the game. After the final boss you'll look a little strange when you meet with Udina and Anderson. On the restart, use setGender again to restore yourself and enjoy the game. Since you have to play twice, be sure to use the first playthrough to get the free 4 points of charm and/or intimidate. Do it again on the second PT and you'll only need to spend 4 points to get to 12.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 20:12:15 GMT
I've been making several runs of the ME2 Suicide Mission today trying to trigger a specific line. On the Long Walk portion, Jack just fired a shockwave that wiped out every husk on the radar screen in one go... and Miranda spontaneously complimented her, saying "Good work!"... made me smile. ETA: ME1 - It was not too long ago I found out that if you just run over Jenkins without stopping, Kaidan asks Shepard - "Shouldn't we check on Jenkins?" I wonder how Kaidan really feels about carrying that cold-hearted B*|tch Shepard back to the ship 10 minutes after Shepard just leaves Jenkins lying dead on the battlefield without so much as stopping to check on him?
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Post by Darth Dennis on Sept 24, 2016 23:09:02 GMT
If you go back into the bunker on Ontarom, there is a screen at the back of the room that you can turn on and off, but it doesn't do anything.
Also, if you shoot the terminals in Cerberus bunkers, they will look damaged, and electricity will spark from them until you turn them off and on again. Found that quite funny, though I doubt it was intentional.
In Zhu's Hope, when you first enter the settlement, there is an injured person lying on the floor opposite you, still alive and moving, but just lying there.
Also, after you talk to Fai Dan, if you talk to the woman with the Japanese sounding name, you can ask questions about what she's doing on the Terminal. When you ask why she's acting so strange, she says "I should go."
On Virmire, when you return to the bomb site, if you quickly kill the Geth Destroyer, an Alliance marine won't get hit by its Carnage shot, and will stand around for the duration of the Saren fight.
Also, if you set off alarms in the Salarian's position, you can disable them later anyway by using a console on the desk next to the elevator up to Droyas' lab.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 23:48:19 GMT
At a guess, it lets you circumvent Parasini, Lorik and Anoleis. Maybe someday I'll try to find out. I'd like to know myself. Noveria is funny. It's like a microcosm of everything Mass Effect. The little Salarian dude manipulating and lording over people (and the manipulative Asari as well), the genetic BH dude, Synthetic insights and their big Green logo, the Krogan upstairs scrounging by as a merc trying to make a deal with the Hanar, etc.. Not that I want to read too much into it, but there's something to this. And I just wish I could bypass it sometimes. Parasini is probably my closest way to do it. The quickest way is to just get Opold's package right off the bat and then immediately give it to Anoleis. I like doing all the double dealing I can on Noveria. First, I sell out Mailene Callis to Vargas then lie to her about getting her job done. Then I get Lorik's evidence and then use it to weasel the pass out of Anoleis while still keeping the evidence. Then I give it to Parasini. Then, I tell Matsuo I can't promise not to make any more public disturbances. Then I go up and threaten to beat Inamorda with Opold's package but still keep it... and then tell Opold I'm keeping his package for myself, causing Inamorda to be waiting for me in the docks. After killing him, I go up to the parking garage and take out the geth waiting there... basically kissing Matsuo off. (Off course, I started the whole thing by telling her that it was my body count that got me in as a spectre.) Saren, you are so dead next time I see you.
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Post by Gourmetrix on Sept 25, 2016 2:46:42 GMT
I like doing all the double dealing I can on Noveria. First, I sell out Mailene Callis to Vargas then lie to her about getting her job done. Then I get Lorik's evidence and then use it to weasel the pass out of Anoleis while still keeping the evidence. Then I give it to Parasini. Then, I tell Matsuo I can't promise not to make any more public disturbances. Then I go up and threaten to beat Inamorda with Opold's package but still keep it... and then tell Opold I'm keeping his package for myself, causing Inamorda to be waiting for me in the docks. After killing him, I go up to the parking garage and take out the geth waiting there... basically kissing Matsuo off. (Off course, I started the whole thing by telling her that it was my body count that got me in as a spectre.) Saren, you are so dead next time I see you. This is literally, point for point, my favorite way to play through Port Hanshan. I think it also offers the most XP. Also, if you set off alarms in the Salarian's position, you can disable them later anyway by using a console on the desk next to the elevator up to Droyas' lab. I honestly don't know what that separate alarm control does beyond making the game a little quieter. It doesn't affect the number of geth you face and it doesn't impact Kirrahe's fate. Have you noticed any difference?
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Post by Darth Dennis on Sept 25, 2016 5:43:05 GMT
I like doing all the double dealing I can on Noveria. First, I sell out Mailene Callis to Vargas then lie to her about getting her job done. Then I get Lorik's evidence and then use it to weasel the pass out of Anoleis while still keeping the evidence. Then I give it to Parasini. Then, I tell Matsuo I can't promise not to make any more public disturbances. Then I go up and threaten to beat Inamorda with Opold's package but still keep it... and then tell Opold I'm keeping his package for myself, causing Inamorda to be waiting for me in the docks. After killing him, I go up to the parking garage and take out the geth waiting there... basically kissing Matsuo off. (Off course, I started the whole thing by telling her that it was my body count that got me in as a spectre.) Saren, you are so dead next time I see you. This is literally, point for point, my favorite way to play through Port Hanshan. I think it also offers the most XP. Also, if you set off alarms in the Salarian's position, you can disable them later anyway by using a console on the desk next to the elevator up to Droyas' lab. I honestly don't know what that separate alarm control does beyond making the game a little quieter. It doesn't affect the number of geth you face and it doesn't impact Kirrahe's fate. Have you noticed any difference? Well, I didn't get the 'Captain Kirrahe is dead' line from Kaidan, though I guess there were other factors such as the Geth flyers and communications relays. There are too many factors for me to know.
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Post by straykat on Sept 25, 2016 13:26:49 GMT
I'd like to know myself. Noveria is funny. It's like a microcosm of everything Mass Effect. The little Salarian dude manipulating and lording over people (and the manipulative Asari as well), the genetic BH dude, Synthetic insights and their big Green logo, the Krogan upstairs scrounging by as a merc trying to make a deal with the Hanar, etc.. Not that I want to read too much into it, but there's something to this. And I just wish I could bypass it sometimes. Parasini is probably my closest way to do it. The quickest way is to just get Opold's package right off the bat and then immediately give it to Anoleis. I like doing all the double dealing I can on Noveria. First, I sell out Mailene Callis to Vargas then lie to her about getting her job done. Then I get Lorik's evidence and then use it to weasel the pass out of Anoleis while still keeping the evidence. Then I give it to Parasini. Then, I tell Matsuo I can't promise not to make any more public disturbances. Then I go up and threaten to beat Inamorda with Opold's package but still keep it... and then tell Opold I'm keeping his package for myself, causing Inamorda to be waiting for me in the docks. After killing him, I go up to the parking garage and take out the geth waiting there... basically kissing Matsuo off. (Off course, I started the whole thing by telling her that it was my body count that got me in as a spectre.) Saren, you are so dead next time I see you. lol.. I need a lot of charm/intimidate points for all of that. Oh well.. Can't do it atm on my current Noveria run. In a way though, it's sort of fitting for my character. He's not as competent as yours. "Yet".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 13:35:06 GMT
The quickest way is to just get Opold's package right off the bat and then immediately give it to Anoleis. I like doing all the double dealing I can on Noveria. First, I sell out Mailene Callis to Vargas then lie to her about getting her job done. Then I get Lorik's evidence and then use it to weasel the pass out of Anoleis while still keeping the evidence. Then I give it to Parasini. Then, I tell Matsuo I can't promise not to make any more public disturbances. Then I go up and threaten to beat Inamorda with Opold's package but still keep it... and then tell Opold I'm keeping his package for myself, causing Inamorda to be waiting for me in the docks. After killing him, I go up to the parking garage and take out the geth waiting there... basically kissing Matsuo off. (Off course, I started the whole thing by telling her that it was my body count that got me in as a spectre.) Saren, you are so dead next time I see you. lol.. I need a lot of charm/intimidate points for all of that. Oh well.. Can't do it atm on my current Noveria run. In a way though, it's sort of fitting for my character. He's not as competent as yours. "Yet". Yeah, you do. Best way to manage that is to just focus on adding points to one or the other, not both. I think it's easier if you start out with either a Spacer War Hero (20 points Paragon right off the bat) and focus on building Charm or start out with a Ruthless Earthborn (20 points Renegade right off the bat) and focus on building Intimidate. Otherwise, you can build both... but you will sacrifice some combat-oriented strengths. You also get an additional set of Spectre "free" charm/intimidate points if you use an ME1 import back into ME1 (NG+ ME1 game).
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Post by straykat on Sept 25, 2016 13:45:43 GMT
lol.. I need a lot of charm/intimidate points for all of that. Oh well.. Can't do it atm on my current Noveria run. In a way though, it's sort of fitting for my character. He's not as competent as yours. "Yet". Yeah, you do. Best way to manage that is to just focus on adding points to one or the other, not both. I think it's easier if you start out with either a Spacer War Hero (20 points Paragon right off the bat) and focus on building Charm or start out with a Ruthless Earthborn (20 points Renegade right off the bat) and focus on building Intimidate. Otherwise, you can build both... but you will sacrifice some combat-oriented strengths. You also get an additional set of Spectre "free" charm/intimidate points if you use an ME1 import back into ME1 (NG+ ME1 game). No, I know how to do it. I mean I won't, out of RP reasons. I barely like allocating charm points at all tbh (since like you said, they're free if you keep doing a new game plus), but since I'm doing single runs, I'm building my characters in specific ways. If that makes sense. I'm saying RP wise, my current character isn't as smooth as yours. He's more of a thug. When I say "yet", I just mean I like Shep to only be uber badass in ME3. Not right off the bat in ME1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 14:08:29 GMT
Yeah, you do. Best way to manage that is to just focus on adding points to one or the other, not both. I think it's easier if you start out with either a Spacer War Hero (20 points Paragon right off the bat) and focus on building Charm or start out with a Ruthless Earthborn (20 points Renegade right off the bat) and focus on building Intimidate. Otherwise, you can build both... but you will sacrifice some combat-oriented strengths. You also get an additional set of Spectre "free" charm/intimidate points if you use an ME1 import back into ME1 (NG+ ME1 game). No, I know how to do it. I mean I won't, out of RP reasons. I barely like allocating charm points at all tbh (since like you said, they're free if you keep doing a new game plus), but since I'm doing single runs, I'm building my characters in specific ways. If that makes sense. I'm saying RP wise, my current character isn't as smooth as yours. He's more of a thug. When I say "yet", I just mean I like Shep to only be uber badass in ME3. Not right off the bat in ME1. OK, gotcha. I do the same and play Noveria differently then. I still think you can sell out Opold though without P/R to get through Hanshan without bothering with Parasini and co.
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Post by straykat on Sept 25, 2016 14:10:37 GMT
No, I know how to do it. I mean I won't, out of RP reasons. I barely like allocating charm points at all tbh (since like you said, they're free if you keep doing a new game plus), but since I'm doing single runs, I'm building my characters in specific ways. If that makes sense. I'm saying RP wise, my current character isn't as smooth as yours. He's more of a thug. When I say "yet", I just mean I like Shep to only be uber badass in ME3. Not right off the bat in ME1. OK, gotcha. I do the same and play Noveria differently then. I still think you can sell out Opold though without P/R to get through Hanshan without bothering with Parasini and co. Yeah, I remembering doing that before. That's pretty straightforward too. I'm almost tempted to get Analoeis and Gianna to shoot each other, because I'm desperate for more Renegade points.. But that's so wrong.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 25, 2016 14:12:07 GMT
I still think you can sell out Opold though without P/R to get through Hanshan without bothering with Parasini and co. That's what I do. Get his package. Give it to the salarian who gives me a pass. Takes only a couple of minutes to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 17:21:33 GMT
OK, gotcha. I do the same and play Noveria differently then. I still think you can sell out Opold though without P/R to get through Hanshan without bothering with Parasini and co. Yeah, I remembering doing that before. That's pretty straightforward too. I'm almost tempted to get Analoeis and Gianna to shoot each other, because I'm desperate for more Renegade points.. But that's so wrong. You can still lie to Mailene Callis to get 9 Renegade (it's a pretty quick little quest) without doing the Lorik Qu'inn/Parasini thing, and, of course, you can get another 25 Renegade by killing the Rachni queen. Another "blameless" way to pick up some Renegade if you haven't done Feros yet is to attempt to save the colonists, but conveniently put your squad on "active." They'll usually kill a few on their own... giving you renegade points for each of those (at the expense of the paragon ones you would get for them, of course).
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Something simpler for a change and the newcomers :
DID YOU KNOW ! If you use Sabotage on the Shield Pylon it turns into a Shield Siphon which will leech shield energy from everyone nearby.
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Post by straykat on Sept 25, 2016 19:30:14 GMT
Yeah, I remembering doing that before. That's pretty straightforward too. I'm almost tempted to get Analoeis and Gianna to shoot each other, because I'm desperate for more Renegade points.. But that's so wrong. You can still lie to Mailene Callis to get 9 Renegade (it's a pretty quick little quest) without doing the Lorik Qu'inn/Parasini thing, and, of course, you can get another 25 Renegade by killing the Rachni queen. Another "blameless" way to pick up some Renegade if you haven't done Feros yet is to attempt to save the colonists, but conveniently put your squad on "active." They'll usually kill a few on their own... giving you renegade points for each of those (at the expense of the paragon ones you would get for them, of course). That's the thing.. Not killing the Queen or Wrex for this playthrough. But still trying to maintain mostly Renegade with smaller choices. Plus, I saved Kate in BDtS. This is harder than it sounds I'm at Virmire now though and already got a little past the 3rd bar. And about 1 1/2 of the Paragon bar. Not bad. My last playthrough was almost pure Renegade, but just seeing if I can get the best of both now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 20:24:29 GMT
You can still lie to Mailene Callis to get 9 Renegade (it's a pretty quick little quest) without doing the Lorik Qu'inn/Parasini thing, and, of course, you can get another 25 Renegade by killing the Rachni queen. Another "blameless" way to pick up some Renegade if you haven't done Feros yet is to attempt to save the colonists, but conveniently put your squad on "active." They'll usually kill a few on their own... giving you renegade points for each of those (at the expense of the paragon ones you would get for them, of course). That's the thing.. Not killing the Queen or Wrex for this playthrough. But still trying to maintain mostly Renegade with smaller choices. Plus, I saved Kate in BDtS. This is harder than it sounds I'm at Virmire now though and already got a little past the 3rd bar. And about 1 1/2 of the Paragon bar. Not bad. My last playthrough was almost pure Renegade, but just seeing if I can get the best of both now. Good luck without putting some points into Charm/Intimidate. It can certainly be done pretty close to 50/50 (unlocking both Beseiged Base and the Negotiation before Ilos) if you have the charm/intimidate in place and maximize pretty much everything for either paragon or renegade points and by playing BDtS late in the game so that point increase needed to unlock things doesn't kick in too early. You can still save the Queen, Wrex, and the Feros colonists... I did it about 2 years ago. I can't remember which way I had to go with Balak though and I'm not sure which background I started out with. I'm pretty sure I had to kill Charn and I know I had to intimidate Jeong for that 25 renegade (which takes 10 initimidate). I'll leave you to it then. I hope you make your goal.
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Post by Gourmetrix on Sept 25, 2016 22:46:19 GMT
Good luck without putting some points into Charm/Intimidate. It can certainly be done pretty close to 50/50 (unlocking both Beseiged Base and the Negotiation before Ilos) if you have the charm/intimidate in place and maximize pretty much everything for either paragon or renegade points and by playing BDtS late in the game so that point increase needed to unlock things doesn't kick in too early. You can still save the Queen, Wrex, and the Feros colonists... I did it about 2 years ago. I can't remember which way I had to go with Balak though and I'm not sure which background I started out with. I'm pretty sure I had to kill Charn and I know I had to intimidate Jeong for that 25 renegade (which takes 10 initimidate). Is it still true that landing on Asteroid X57 changes the point totals needed to get the charm/intimidate/quest unlocks? I know the Wiki says it does but on the PC I tested this and found that once I had 275 renegade points, I got the UNC: The Negotiation quest, and this was true whether I had been to X57 or not. (Also the 80%/90% distinction for chasing both morality quests wasn't true either; I only needed 275 paragon points to get UNC: Besieged Base in the same game.) I wanted to update the wiki to reflect these findings, but I had no way to test whether this was a PC thing only.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 0:46:59 GMT
Good luck without putting some points into Charm/Intimidate. It can certainly be done pretty close to 50/50 (unlocking both Beseiged Base and the Negotiation before Ilos) if you have the charm/intimidate in place and maximize pretty much everything for either paragon or renegade points and by playing BDtS late in the game so that point increase needed to unlock things doesn't kick in too early. You can still save the Queen, Wrex, and the Feros colonists... I did it about 2 years ago. I can't remember which way I had to go with Balak though and I'm not sure which background I started out with. I'm pretty sure I had to kill Charn and I know I had to intimidate Jeong for that 25 renegade (which takes 10 initimidate). Is it still true that landing on Asteroid X57 changes the point totals needed to get the charm/intimidate/quest unlocks? I know the Wiki says it does but on the PC I tested this and found that once I had 275 renegade points, I got the UNC: The Negotiation quest, and this was true whether I had been to X57 or not. (Also the 80%/90% distinction for chasing both morality quests wasn't true either; I only needed 275 paragon points to get UNC: Besieged Base in the same game.) I wanted to update the wiki to reflect these findings, but I had no way to test whether this was a PC thing only. It was definitely that way when I did that particular playthrough... which was a couple of years ago on the Xbox 360. I'm certain because I was keeping close track of every P/R point and every unlock point because the Wiki said that a person could not unlock both Beseiged Base and Negotiation without glitching... so I deliberately set out to test the matter. My second allignment mission unlocked as I set out from the Citadel to get to Ilos (i.e. just after I stole the Normandy). I remember I felt bad about doing the quest because I was supposed to be rushing to Ilos at that point. I can't speak for the PC or if the Xbox 360 edition has been updated since then. Since then, when I've wanted to get both in the same playthrough, I have pretty much used a little bit of glitching to ensure they both unlock earlier in the game. One thing that could have skewed my original one (if that point rise had been taken off then) is that Hackett will only tell Shepard about one at a time... even if both unlock during the same mission. I'm not sure if I kept that particular spread sheet... but if I have I can try to replicate the playthrough now to see if the one mission unlocks earlier.
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Post by Gourmetrix on Sept 26, 2016 1:23:18 GMT
Since then, when I've wanted to get both in the same playthrough, I have pretty much used a little bit of glitching to ensure they both unlock earlier in the game. One thing that could have skewed my original one (if that point rise had been taken off then) is that Hackett will only tell Shepard about one at a time... even if both unlock during the same mission. I'm not sure if I kept that particular spread sheet... but if I have I can try to replicate the playthrough now to see if the one mission unlocks earlier. This is true. I recall that I once missed Nassana Dantius's call to the Normandy because Hackett was busy alerting me about the rogue VI. Later I discovered that if you have multiple messages queued up at the galaxy map, you can purge the entire set by repeatedly zooming out to the cluster level then zooming down to the system level. Each time you do that you'll get the next message.
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