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Post by Sah291 on Jun 1, 2017 16:46:41 GMT
Aww, I find after the dance conversation they look so in love. They do...I just meant, it seems (to me) like the early stages of starting to fall in love, there's still a lot they don't know about each other yet etc. Plus Ryder is still going through a lot after becoming Pathfinder so I don't see Ryder ready for a big commitment to anyone just yet. But that bond could deepen, if the romance has a chance to continue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 16:53:03 GMT
Maybe it's because I just half-flirted with Reyes and didn't get the full romance (I've seen videos but when it's not your own Ryder it doesn't feel the same). They definitely should have had more content to that romance, I think this character deserves more. So there is a bug and you can fully romance Gil AND Reyes at the same time? I don't think that the fact of flirting and getting the "prompt action kiss" is uncompatible with having a romance with someone else, after all there was a guard coming and they didn't want to get caught, it can work as an excuse. Yep, as long as you tell Reyes he is the only one before going to Eos where Gil springs his commitment surprise on you. Once you commit to Gil, there is no force in the verse to stop him from being with Ryder. You end up with ye older man on Tempest that keeps you as his trophy boyfriend to parade before his forbidden love, Jill, and a shadow lord you build political alliance with between occasional passionate kisses. You can even end up fathering a baby, so that starts veering off into a space harem fantasy for a young sultan Ryder. Reyes romance with his five scenes all fully dedicated to courtship, tbh felt more like an actual romance than what Jaal had to offer, but I already said that.
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Post by Zitrus on Jun 1, 2017 16:54:13 GMT
I haven't done the romance fully yet either but I think the videos give a good enough impression. Hopefully he will feature in dlc and/or the possible sequel.
Yes, I think Peebee had the bug too before the patch.
Oh the storage room kiss is doable, of course. You can play it off as an excuse (or not). No problem there. Just after that if you are locked in with someone else already, the game defaults to the friendship path. And I find this okay. You know if you side with Sloane and flirted enough, even if you were committed to someone else, you will receive the romance version of his goodbye email afterwards. I don't know if this is intended or a bug but it's interesting.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 1, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
I just saw this tweet:
Let's just imagine it has something to do with MEA. Here's hoping. I hope both Reyes and Lexi get more content.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 16:57:23 GMT
I haven't done the romance fully yet either but I think the videos give a good enough impression. Hopefully he will feature in dlc and/or the possible sequel. Yes, I think Peebee had the bug too before the patch. Oh the storage room kiss is doable, of course. You can play it off as an excuse (or not). No problem there. Just after that if you are locked in with someone alse already, the game defaults to the friendship paths. And I find this okay. You know if you side with Sloane and flirted enough, even if you were committed to someone else, you will receive the romance version of his goodbye email afterwards. I don't know if this is intended or a bug but it's interesting. Is that the "scar to remember you by?" one? That was what my girl that took one for the team with Jaal got after shooting Reyes and saving Sloane.
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 17:33:28 GMT
I like both Reyes and Jaal, I think we can't compare them or their flirt options because they're not the same types of characters at all. With Reyes it's more like a game at first, teasing, before he realizes that Ryder is not like "the other women" and he starts to feel something for her, and fears about what she can think of him. Jaal is hard to tame at first because of course the Angara do not trust the initiative yet, but once he's in love, he's adorable. The only thing that bugged me was his first flirt e-mail coming too soon, while I had no flirt option yet with him. I wish there were more flirt options with Jaal to make the beginning of relationship more convincing. It seems something happened in the cave with Reyes but they show only the kiss
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Post by Zitrus on Jun 1, 2017 17:36:16 GMT
Is that the "scar to remember you by?" one? That was what my girl that took one for the team with Jaal got after shooting Reyes and saving Sloane. Yes, that's the one. If you don't shoot him (where he also waves at you from the shuttle) he writes "You're one hell of a woman. / I've never known a man like you." It's also the only time he says goodbye. For reference: danaduchy.tumblr.com/emails
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 17:47:44 GMT
Is that the "scar to remember you by?" one? That was what my girl that took one for the team with Jaal got after shooting Reyes and saving Sloane. Yes, that's the one. If you don't shoot him (where he also waves at you from the shuttle) he writes "You're one hell of a woman. / I've never known a man like you." It's also the only time he says goodbye. For reference: danaduchy.tumblr.com/emailsNice! Gives me hope that there will be an option in the sequel or something to tell Jaal it was not meant to be. I like my first Ryder very much, but really would loathe having her locked into jaal's romance for the next game if it happens.
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 19:18:28 GMT
Yes, that's the one. If you don't shoot him (where he also waves at you from the shuttle) he writes "You're one hell of a woman. / I've never known a man like you." It's also the only time he says goodbye. For reference: danaduchy.tumblr.com/emailsNice! Gives me hope that there will be an option in the sequel or something to tell Jaal it was not meant to be. I like my first Ryder very much, but really would loathe having her locked into jaal's romance for the next game if it happens. I don't understand: how could you end up locked in Jaal's romance if you don't want to? he clearly says "you make my heart sing" and you can refuse him and refuse the kiss which is locking you into his romance. You cannot really be locked in Jaal's romance without knowing it or wanting it, he clearly declares his flame to you at that moment. Or you mean that you discovered Reyes afterwards and you ended up prefering Reyes instead and you wish you didn't romance Jaal...?
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Post by Sah291 on Jun 1, 2017 19:18:53 GMT
I imagine so if there is a sequel. Like in the trilogy, in ME2 you had an option to stay loyal (to Kaiden/Ashley/Liara) or start a romance with someone new, and then in ME3 you had to choose to rekindle/continue. I'd be surprised if they did it differently and locked us into anything. The romance flags will be likely used just for dialogue references and whatnot, if there is any sequel.
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 19:21:44 GMT
I imagine so if there is a sequel. Like in the trilogy, in ME2 you had an option to stay loyal (to Kaiden/Ashley/Liara) or start a romance with someone new, and then in ME3 you had to choose to rekindle/continue. I'd be surprised if they did it differently and locked us into anything. The romance flags will be likely used just for dialogue references and whatnot, if there is any DLC/sequel. In ME3 I could not romance anyone because I was locked in Thane's romance, so yes it can happen... I didn't have any opportunity to romance Garrus for example because they considered that I should have started the Garrus romance in ME2. It was really frustrating. Thane appeared like 2 seconds in ME3 and that was that, he didn't even want to kiss or talk because "he was tired"... so, no romance for me in ME3... even if I wanted to... and I feel it's better to give the opportunity to clearly break up with someone (like in DA:I) instead of just giving the cheating option
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 19:31:52 GMT
Nice! Gives me hope that there will be an option in the sequel or something to tell Jaal it was not meant to be. I like my first Ryder very much, but really would loathe having her locked into jaal's romance for the next game if it happens. I don't understand: how could you end up locked in Jaal's romance if you don't want to? he clearly says "you make my heart sing" and you can refuse him and refuse the kiss which is locking you into his romance. You cannot really be locked in Jaal's romance without knowing it or wanting it, he clearly declares his flame to you at that moment. Or you mean that you discovered Reyes afterwards and you ended up prefering Reyes instead and you wish you didn't romance Jaal...? Jaal's romance is plot important and I was under the influence of Jaal's hype, so I wanted to see it on the first PT. But I was disappointed with it. So, if Ryder moved to MEA2, I'd like her to have an option to switch LI like Shepard did, be it to Reyes or someone else.
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Post by Sah291 on Jun 1, 2017 20:11:32 GMT
I imagine so if there is a sequel. Like in the trilogy, in ME2 you had an option to stay loyal (to Kaiden/Ashley/Liara) or start a romance with someone new, and then in ME3 you had to choose to rekindle/continue. I'd be surprised if they did it differently and locked us into anything. The romance flags will be likely used just for dialogue references and whatnot, if there is any DLC/sequel. In ME3 I could not romance anyone because I was locked in Thane's romance, so yes it can happen... I didn't have any opportunity to romance Garrus for example because they considered that I should have started the Garrus romance in ME2. It was really frustrating. Thane appeared like 2 seconds in ME3 and that was that, he didn't even want to kiss or talk because "he was tired"... so, no romance for me in ME3... even if I wanted to... and I feel it's better to give the opportunity to clearly break up with someone (like in DA:I) instead of just giving the cheating option Interesting I didn't know Thane could lock you out of the others, that sucks. Was it the same deal with Jacob you can't romance anyone else in 3? I know Garrus is gated to continuing romance only, but you could still break up with him and start the romance with Liara or Kaidan if alive late in the game, and there was also Traynor.
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 20:30:17 GMT
In ME3 I could not romance anyone because I was locked in Thane's romance, so yes it can happen... I didn't have any opportunity to romance Garrus for example because they considered that I should have started the Garrus romance in ME2. It was really frustrating. Thane appeared like 2 seconds in ME3 and that was that, he didn't even want to kiss or talk because "he was tired"... so, no romance for me in ME3... even if I wanted to... and I feel it's better to give the opportunity to clearly break up with someone (like in DA:I) instead of just giving the cheating option Interesting I didn't know Thane could lock you out of the others, that sucks. Was it the same deal with Jacob you can't romance anyone else in 3? I know Garrus is gated to continuing romance only, but you could still break up with him and start the romance with Liara or Kaidan if alive late in the game, and there was also Traynor. Yes I was locked with Thane, even if Thane was just making a cameo. They should have made an option to be able to start a Garrus romance in ME3, and not only for people who started it in ME2. I don't like romancing women, and Kaidan... gets on my nerves, and I don't even think I could romance him either because of the Thane lock. And anyway, for straight women who had Kaidan dead in their first ME1, and who were locked like me in a romance of ME2 (maybe it's the case with Jacob too), there was absolutly no option possible. I was really frustrated by ME3 romances because of that. Couldn't have any.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 20:46:59 GMT
I was happy being hopelessly devoted to Thane, and kissed him every time I went by Citadel, and then went on the revenge drive, but the game really wanted me to get back together with Kaidan. He was very, very, very available. So Thane does not lock you out of all romances. I dunno if Liara was still available, because, really, when is not she?
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Post by vana on Jun 1, 2017 22:00:30 GMT
I was happy being hopelessly devoted to Thane, and kissed him every time I went by Citadel, and then went on the revenge drive, but the game really wanted me to get back together with Kaidan. He was very, very, very available. So Thane does not lock you out of all romances. I dunno if Liara was still available, because, really, when is not she? I would have prefered more scenes with Thane, because apart from one little kiss, he ends up rejecting you a bit, saying "no more, I'm tired"... I can't help it, I don't like Kaidan... I didn't even romance him in ME1 and prefered having no romance than romancing him (even if I saved him). I guess I'm not attracted to guys who spend their time complaining and being grumpy.
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Post by tehprincessj on Jun 1, 2017 23:28:50 GMT
You don't really end up locked in with anyone in ME, it's just that the game gives straight women the option to roll with Kaidan AND NO ONE ELSE. Unless you started a romance with Garrus in ME2. I had 3 femSheps, and let me tell you, the romance in ME3 is still a big reason why that game was such a disappointment. 1 ended up with Kaidan by choice (yay), Renegade Shep went back and romanced Garrus post-suicide mission in ME2 just to have an option, and my main Shep war-asseted Kaidan, then in DLC cried at Thane's funeral and had this awful LET'S NEVER SPEAK OF THIS, EVER thing with James. So glad my Sara only wants 1 man this time. But a little terrified to have all my eggs in 1 basket.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jun 1, 2017 23:59:18 GMT
You don't really end up locked in with anyone in ME, it's just that the game gives straight women the option to roll with Kaidan AND NO ONE ELSE. Unless you started a romance with Garrus in ME2. I had 3 femSheps, and let me tell you, the romance in ME3 is still a big reason why that game was such a disappointment. 1 ended up with Kaidan by choice (yay), Renegade Shep went back and romanced Garrus post-suicide mission in ME2 just to have an option, and my main Shep war-asseted Kaidan, then in DLC cried at Thane's funeral and had this awful LET'S NEVER SPEAK OF THIS, EVER thing with James. So glad my Sara only wants 1 man this time. But a little terrified to have all my eggs in 1 basket. My Sara can't keep it in her pants, whilst "committing" to Reyes, she has casual banged PB, Keri and Liam.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 2:10:04 GMT
I was happy being hopelessly devoted to Thane, and kissed him every time I went by Citadel, and then went on the revenge drive, but the game really wanted me to get back together with Kaidan. He was very, very, very available. So Thane does not lock you out of all romances. I dunno if Liara was still available, because, really, when is not she? I would have prefered more scenes with Thane, because apart from one little kiss, he ends up rejecting you a bit, saying "no more, I'm tired"... I can't help it, I don't like Kaidan... I didn't even romance him in ME1 and prefered having no romance than romancing him (even if I saved him). I guess I'm not attracted to guys who spend their time complaining and being grumpy. Maybe it is because I played the game late and they patched it, but Thane was kissing my PC every time she visited. It's pretty much my favorite romance, including the wuxia portion of it after Thane's death, so I am not in a position to complain.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jun 2, 2017 8:16:33 GMT
In ME3 I could not romance anyone because I was locked in Thane's romance, so yes it can happen... I didn't have any opportunity to romance Garrus for example because they considered that I should have started the Garrus romance in ME2. It was really frustrating. Thane appeared like 2 seconds in ME3 and that was that, he didn't even want to kiss or talk because "he was tired"... so, no romance for me in ME3... even if I wanted to... and I feel it's better to give the opportunity to clearly break up with someone (like in DA:I) instead of just giving the cheating option Happened to me too... I spent my first PT of ME3 being like "can I romance Garrus? Ok, no, can I romance him now?? And what about now? No? Now? Oh it's over. Huh." Serves me right for mostly ignoring his character when I first played ME2 (it was the first ME I played so I thought I was all out of context). I had no other options to lock in in that game either... suddenly everyone was sooo sympathetic with Shepard's dead boyfriend after years of unsuccessfully trying to ninja her at every turn By the way, what happened in the cave with Reyes confuses me. I mean, Ryder is in full armor. Their crew is standing nearby. The sniper has not yet vanished into thin air. Slonae Kelly's dead body lies around. And it's a cave. Possibly a bit toxic, belonging to a system of caves, so more can stumble across the spot. It's not really the time for anything, yet Reyes makes implications afterwards...
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Post by orchid on Jun 2, 2017 8:35:41 GMT
By the way, what happened in the cave with Reyes confuses me. I mean, Ryder is in full armor. Their crew is standing nearby. The sniper has not yet vanished into thin air. Slonae Kelly's dead body lies around. And it's a cave. Possibly a bit toxic, belonging to a system of caves, so more can stumble across the spot. It's not really the time for anything, yet Reyes makes implications afterwards... Turns out Reyes is shy and incredibly chaste, and a mere kiss has him overwhelmed for days. OR a quick BJ - the sniper goes to drag Sloane's corpse away as per Reyes' instructions, Ryder's crew withdraws politely outside when Ryder & Reyes start to argue about keeping secrets, Reyes is wearing regular pants with a fly. OR the devs didn't really think about it that much (it's this ).
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Post by Zitrus on Jun 2, 2017 9:00:07 GMT
They are oblivious to such important details. Since time seems short I settle on hot kisses that keep his mind busy for days. Maybe that email was drafted before the line "Don't you have a port to take? - It can wait" was cut.
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Post by orchid on Jun 2, 2017 9:17:59 GMT
Yeah, I'm thinking it's the combo of that + Reyes' pleasant and complete surprise at Ryder being maybe his first lover that doesn't dump him upon learning they've been lied to (or kept in the dark). Just having the entire scenario work out in the best way imaginable should be enough to keep Reyes happily going over it again and again afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 11:37:58 GMT
I thought Reyes reaction is not so much to making love to Ryder, but to kissing him (which is actually the sort of things I want -the romantic scenes built into the adventure, right there, right then). So, the email references the entire thing: Ryder's acknowledging his love for Reyes after Sloane killed, and the unsatisfied desire that leaning into each other in full kit creates in the cave.
If they did make love, that was later on in Tartarus, after dancing together in a more convenient circumstances, acting on the strong passionate impulse that kissing in the cave provoked, and to which Reyes refers in his e-mail, as in "I can't stop yearning for you" well, that's my story, I am a cold northerner that does expect a long time to pass before looking, kissing, touching and making love. Heh.
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Post by Sah291 on Jun 2, 2017 12:08:32 GMT
The cave scene is left intentionally vague for us to imagine whatever we like happened...but I think Reyes was obviously excited after everything. Maybe it was just heavy making out right then and there, I'm not really sure. But, he just got everything he wanted and his plan went off perfectly. He took the port, got rid of Sloane, and he even got Ryder too. Of course he wants to entice Ryder to come see him again soon, with the suggestive/flirty email. If they didn't do it in the cave, then I think definitely after the dance scene.
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