Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread)

Tiberius Hello, and thanks to the team for making another patch (1.09). Unfortunately it doesn't fix the clipping issue in the Reyes/Scott dance. In fact, there seemed to be additional eye tracking issues with Scott that I hadn't noticed before. An Answers HQ bug report has been made and the issue has been brought up at this forum and on the ME subreddit several times.

Reyes fans aren't as numerous as Jaal fans, so there won't be a massive twitter campaign about this, but I'm writing this tagged message just in the probably vain hope that this problem might at least be acknowledged. I would rather if it was just said that this M/M relationship is unimportant and will be ignored. It would make it easier to just to peace out and leave the matter rest, instead of vainly checking in to see if something's been done after every patch. This probably is among the least issues to the devs, but the writing and voice acting is very good and touching, and deserves better than the current animation.

I therefore would like a confirmation, if possible, whether or not the patch creating devs are even aware of this bug. Thank you.

Yes, we're aware of this issue. (And everything else that's been reported through EA Answers)

Unfortunately, we're not always able to fix everything. Either because the fix causes ugly knock-on effects, or because we don't have enough resources to fix everything in the allotted time for a given patch, in which case we have to prioritize issues based on a mix of severity (crashes are much worse than aesthetic issues, for instance) and how often they're encountered in the wild (something that happens 100% of the time on the critical path is vastly more important to patch than a bug that occurs 1 time out of 50 on an optional objective in the bottom of a random cave). In any case: Apologies!

Thank you very much for the answer and the confirmation. I hope that this wasn’t the last patch, and the team will be given yet more resources to fix this and other bugs.

It would be very significant and great if the M/M version of the romance was as equally polished as the F/M version, especially the final, most important scene - if this bug occurred during the earlier convos, I'd probably just shrug it off. Any further communication on the topic in future would be much appreciated, too. Again, thanks for acknowledging us, and have a pleasant weekend. :smiles:

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Soooo… In case if there are any people with Frosty Editor skills around here, is a thing like this possible to fix via a mod? Just to change a character to look right ahead, instead of slamming his head to the side into his shoulder? It feels like such a little thing.

I’ve taken a look at the Editor, but it’s beyond me (only ever modded gamebryo games), and changing animations is probably the hardest thing to mod. :/

I admire your optimism. Well, I’d like Reyes to stay in charge of the Collective, and join Ryder for a few missions aboard the Tempest where he’d be a temporary squad mate with assignable powers. Yet he’d be an independent LI/friend/associate with his own businesses and base of operations; he would provide intel via his network.

Ryder would get to quiz him on such things as the Collective’s methods (“I found a torture shack once in the Badlands, Reyes – wanna say anything about that?”), and to make choices based on variety of opinions. No tidying up what Reyes does or has done, and obviously not turning him full HD evil either. I absolutely don’t want an arc of “redeeming” or “changing” him; he could maybe dump Ryder, if he/she is an uptight nagger. A chance to make Ryder less of an obligatory boy scout would be excellent as they associate and work with Reyes. Ryder could also make demands with the AI’s weight behind them to the Collective to clean up. I wouldn't expect huge changes in Reyes, since he's a grown man already, but being in power would have its own effects. In other news, I’d also like Obsidian to make a sci-fi RPG, and world peace.

Lack of Reyes content is why I browse fanart/fanfic specifically for Reyes - Gotta get my fix

I grew into liking romances. Funnily enough, the first LI I ever went through 100% without chickening out was Cullen in Inquisition. 

Then I as I replayed Mass Effect (I do a trilogy run at least once a year) I go for Kaidan, although I am madly in love with Garrus. Dragon Age, I don't play as much of, but I like Zevran and Fenris! 

I'm pretty sure I've kept my choice of LI in Andromeda a secret...

I really like Carlyle's face, but Tiran Kandros is the light of my life. When he mumbles "excuse the mess" I'm in awe haha. If he were a romance, I'd be going through a conundrum for sure, but at the same time, I would love to have more options. 

I hope they don't scrap Andromeda. It's got tons of potential... I would love to have him pop in and out. It would be cool if like in ME3, when random squadmates showed up, it could be Reyes doing his own thing and you fight together and interact over comms and such. It would be cool if he does that with the Collective, but if you went outcast's it is Kaetus that helps you. 

Hah I know but it never hurts to remind the devs how much we liked Reyes

thanks for nothing then.

at least you fixed everything for straight romances, and thats all that matters. the only gay crewmates(and yes gay/lesbian can only be crew, cause they cant hold a gun apparently) have the less content of all, no face models, fade to black sex scenes, the usual asari pan character has a sex scene with female protag that got copypasted from the male protag scene, thats not how lesbians have sex, mb have some research in the future, or dont do sex scenes for any at all. 

i believe you think that making jaal playersexual made you a great ally - yes i cant call him bi, cause besides the male protag he doesnt express his interest in any males not even compliments or flirts with any either,meanwhile flirting with everyone female and having an ex gf( the same with reyes btw, cause bi males in bioware only talk ab/flirt with women except for iron bull and dorian, but thats still very hard to obtain).

after all this, its safe to say, that bioware devs usually dont have enough resourses for gay romances, meanwhile having a lot and more for straight ones (even hiring the dev from another company just to animate that one cool cora kiss) and lesbian ones that are for male gaze too. 

Hell, I wish Ryder could develop into someone drunk on power. But yeah, Reyes as Reyes is optimal.

Odd! Could it be that the voice actor had another role, but they realized that everyone would mistake him for Reyes? Then again, I don’t see where this would fit with Vetra. There’s the scene where she’s asking someone to find the tacky lamp (I think), but she was far more mellow there. Edit: Oh yeah, normandy's right - this is the audio used in the lamp scene, though they only used both of their last lines and Reyes is subtitled as "shady contact".  I wonder why they did that? I also admit that I didn't recognize Reyes' voice at all in that scene. Just lol at imagining just how oblivious Ryder can be.

Also let us know if you check the bar scene w/ fly cam and see something cool.


I admit, it’s hard not to be disillusioned, especially after learning that this patch apparently added fluff improvements to other romances. If there are priorities, I’d think that an extreme case of glitching would come before entirely optional additions (disclaimer: it’s good and cool that other romances get nice things and I’m not saying they shouldn’t).

I mean look at this, people:


I can guarantee that if this was Scott/Cora, it would’ve been fixed in the first patch at the latest or else in a hotfix released within days after release. And if this happened to Sara/Reyes? Who knows, but personally I can’t help but roll my eyes every time I see BioWare PR tweet cutesy little “happy pride week” messages. Of course, I’m glad that those that go with Sara/Reyes romance at least are free from this problem.

This isn’t a tiny cosmetics issue, this is a huge graphics bug.

I didn’t set out to rant, due to my policy of Don’t Get Mad at Video Games, but I guess I couldn’t help but vent a bit. I think I’ll go out for a hike since the weather’s so nice, peace everyone.

Actually, this is in the game, it does happen (just didn't notice it was Boulton before). This conversation is heard through the door of Vetra's cabin on the Tempest, later in the game IIRC. I'll make a vid when I get to it, but it may take me a while. Don't think it's supposed to be Reyes, though, that sounds like an attempt at an American accent to me.

Edit: Oop, ninja'ed. 

BloodOfShiagur : yeah, something like that.

Haha, lol @ myself then. Thx guys. I had totally forgotten about this conversation. Just shows I should play the game more. tehprincessj It's okay, I found a video which refreshed my memory about the infamous lamp. He's just some associate of hers then.

BloodOfShiagur Just a thread merge and a couple more visitors than usual. Patch is some animation improvements, quest/bug fixes, MP stuff. Was kinda wondering where you had vanished to.


Is it looking like this since launch? That's ridiculous. Such scenes should always be polished.


I've done the scene now but there's nothing out of the ordinary. Umi is moving only two steps away but due to the camera you don't notice it. Got two gifs from other perspectives only.




I also looked at their first meeting and there I found something that's animated but you don't see it in the game. Guy loves to talk with his hands. Also a look at Ryder's stance which depends on the first answer. Probably just an engine thing but I decided to record it anyway.

I thought those were part of the general animation improvements they made across the board, not specifically for romances.