Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread)

Wonder why the name of this thread was ever changed the way it was, what the fuck do we actually know about the character or why he does anything he does??

I have often wondered this myself! As somebody that was around from almost its birth, though, I guess it's because at one point we were dying to know so much as whether or not Reyes was even human. We wanted a picture and got NOTHING. I also remember that when his entire name was revealed a whole lot of "but Reyes is a surname! Why the hell does he have 2 last names?" :lol:

But the rel question here- are there really napkins in Tartarus? I’d almost bet that Reyes had to carve the logo on the table or something

No, no they don't. Tartarus is definitely a "wipe your hands on your pants" kind of dive.

I’ve given it quite some thought today and just changing the order of events (with Sarissa and the salarian ark and perhaps some others placed before the High noon) could make her take a different turn, totally in-character. More time around Reyes together with some lessons learned sooner.. and i can totally see Ryder going down the more selfish route. She’s a neutral anyway, instead of "I’m the Pathfinder and fuck all this useless personal business" there would just be "I’m the Pathfinder and me and mine take preference" in the end. Might be interesting. And I’m doing that, divergent paths make characters grow too. (my baseless sensitivities will just have to deal. with.it. story first.) This thread’s influence, though, of course.

DO IT.

And again, if you love Drack as much as I do, try saving the scouts over Raeka. You get Drack's flirt line and the side quest about Kesh + Vorn = babies!!! if you do.

Aug 14, 2017 19:14:02 GMT Zitrus said:

That gif is making me so happy, I'm taking it out of spoilers.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 15, 2017 9:50:14 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 1 more like this

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Aug 14, 2017 16:26:00 GMT Zitrus said:

When she talks about her job she says the drawback is that she lives in cave and Lynx hasn't seen the sun in weeks but it could be just for those weeks-long shifts they might have to do.

Oh yes^^. And while he's at it, how about replacing the flags with the Outcasts' logo in front of the HQ.

Aug 13, 2017 11:29:04 GMT BloodOfShiagur said:

Or throw Miranda out of the airlock for unapologetically sticking her butt into Shep’s business and field of view all the time.

Lol indeed. Those camera angles all the time with her around *rolleyes*. I like he's a human.

Reyes, a boss from hell... Not even allowing the short walk to the cave's mouth once a day for a breather.

An occasional butt shot would be fine by me, if were they reserved for romanced LIs at appropriate moments and not when panicking about their sister. I wouldn't say no if Reyes' actually had a butt to begin with lol.* There's also the common issue of MEA that people's torsos seem very long and their legs short, and Reyes' outfit often seems a really bad case of this. I'll take this moment to also say that his little vest looks really pointless.

I guess it's only purpose to be able to stick weapons onto his back. (*see attached image)

Oh right, those flags, what an oversight. :lol:

Unless the logo is some old Kadara coat of arms type of thing that Sloane appropriated to enforce her “right” to rule over the Port. Well, the devs probably thought that nobody would bother coming to the Port after resolving High Noon and doing a victory lap to hear people’s comments, so why bother changing anything. I think there should’ve been at least one Kadara mission after High Noon to establish the Collective’s new rule or the Outcasts’ reinforced rule. Give us a more concrete taste of the consequences of our choices.

Aug 14, 2017 19:14:02 GMT Zitrus said:

Hey there! Have a Reyes friendship moment gif to make up for it^^.

That's a mesmerizing gif.

Yay, suure, just look at the pic of them walking together like best buds in crime. Mr. Sniper Guy’s lips are sealed at least as far as Reyes’ personal business goes. (And he dutifully has a smoke outside the cave after the duel instead of taking sneak peeks through his scope).  :lol:

I also assume you’re right about Keema, it woul be weird of Reyes to choose an associate with less than ideal powers of understanding. "Don’t tell confidential shit to the obviously self-serving business partners" should be like no1 rule in the Collecive anyway. (I wonder if the second one would be "Evfra is funnier in the dark")

Well I for one like Mr. Sniper Guy.

Besides, Reyes’ dramatic “Kadara Port is ours tonight!” was directed to him alone, since there weren’t other Collective people around, so they’re totally buds. And he gets to “prepare the crew” so he does more than just shoot people. And he removes the corpse. A versatile guy to have around.

If Ryder is smart they tell Reyes to kill Kaetus anyway. Is there honestly any way that he would work for the Charlatan? Reyes can be good with his mouth, but not that good. He’d be back like Saren’s asari scientist if left alive.

Also I know what you meant, but the first thing in my mind was an image of a grumpy Evfra, painted with glow-in-the-dark paint. :lol:

Actually, it kind of makes sense... the real funny thought is Reyes the model of all professionalism

. The way he looks like he’s anything but professional but in the end you’re left with being not so sure about that. Huh, a very clever strategy. Wonder why the name of this thread was ever changed the way it was, what the fuck do we actually know about the character or why he does anything he does?? Btw Keema says that only in response to the professional tone so there’s that at least. I’m not sure how many people don’t have preferred choices of tone anyway. But yeah, it would be nice if those trends were mentioned.. like, ever)

I know, but she refers to the past so Ryder should have taken more professional than casual replies in his Reyes convos for Reyes to have been able to gush about it to Keema. With Reyes, it's all flirts all the time, so not necessarily the most professional approach ever.

He’s still very mysterious, true, but I feel like we get a good grasp of his motivations and mindset. Let’s see. We know he wants to be someone, and peace in Heleus, because a war amongst Milky Way populations is not sustainable and will led to extinction of the human race in Andromeda (making Reyes one of the most sensible people in the entire game). Also he’s greedy, so he wants credits, and most likely power. We know he he left Nexus because he didn't trust Tann's leadership skills, and ditto for Sloane on Kadara, so he clearly has his own distinct vision how things should be run, to the degree that he's willing to grasp power for himself in order to do the things he perceives as correct (his good deeds as the Charlatan go here). Oh oh, and he’s been worried about his very survival, so he wants to stay alive by any means, the sensible man that he is. He values results and getting things done over over-emotional crap or even ethics, meaning he doesn't care about getting his way lawfully. He’s extremely private, but is willing to open up to Ryder if romanced exclusively. :3 He’s vain about his handsome face and takes care of his hair~ I mean, all that's commonly known, and it's plenty IMO. Way more than some one-note NPCs get.

Changing topics slightly, all in all I like that his characterization’s conveyed almost entirely through actions, not exposition dialogue that sounds like the voice actor is reading a character concept sheet; Gil was really bad about this, literally just saying “I tend to live the way I work: kinda ‘feel it, do it’, not a lot of close ties, no real sense of purpose” (probably top-5 bad writing in the game IMO, fucking nobody introduces themselves like that). Plenty other NPCs also did just declare similarly unsubtle statements about themselves. Even if we never learn more about Reyes' past etc., he’s still very well put together and whole character, and comes across better than several other NPCs with more content.

Hmmm. may I just point out spies and covert oeratives should not wear insignias? :ph34r:

Way too conspicous, but perhaps it doesn’t matter when they’re obviously the power in Kadara port? And before that, well, perhaps it was reserved to Collective gatherings and team building actions. Reyes had put all the work into designing it so it had to be used somehere after all :lol:

That’s an interesting question. I’d say it would be better for them to have some cover identities just in case but we know that Sloane hardly cared about the Collective. Crux seems to louge in the base all day long though so perhaps at least some of them went full time (perhaps those that were driven out of the port anyway??) but there would undoubtably be benefits to them working all around Kadara. Eyes, ears and stuff.
But the rel question here- are there really napkins in Tartarus? I’d almost bet that Reyes had to carve the logo on the table or something

The turf wars in the Kadara wilds were extensive, so I guess they worked like uniforms in a war, so they’d know who’s on their side and who is not. It's maybe best to assume that they don regular clothes when doing spy stuff.

He’d definitely do the knife doodling at Kralla’s. Kian and he have a gentlemen’s agreement and all, Reyes wouldn’t ruin Kian’s tables. (Btw I wanna know if Kian and Reyes casually fucked. And in general, if there were more Reyes content, we should meet an ex-bf of his next time or have him talk of one. Since he is supposed to be bi, it should show somewhere other than just if you’re playing Scott and want to romance him.)

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 15, 2017 16:53:37 GMT tehprincessj, orchid, and 1 more like this

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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Aug 15, 2017 16:53:37 GMT

Aug 14, 2017 21:41:10 GMT tehprincessj said:

I have often wondered this myself! As somebody that was around from almost its birth, though, I guess it's because at one point we were dying to know so much as whether or not Reyes was even human. We wanted a picture and got NOTHING. I also remember that when his entire name was revealed a whole lot of "but Reyes is a surname! Why the hell does he have 2 last names?" :lol:

Yep, I lurked around in these times too in my full time nameless lurking mode but I must admit I wasn't all that curious about him specifically. He'd make a shitty Quarian, though :lol:

Two last names are pretty common with some Spanish speakers, aren't they? Till recently I actually wondered whether Reyes was indeed a given name and not the middle part of Something Reyes Vidal, but since he claims Reyes is what his mother called him, probably not.

I know, but she refers to the past so Ryder should have taken more professional than casual replies in his Reyes convos for Reyes to have been able to gush about it to Keema. With Reyes, it's all flirts all the time, so not necessarily the most professional approach ever.

He’s still very mysterious, true, but I feel like we get a good grasp of his motivations and mindset. Let’s see. We know he wants to be someone, and peace in Heleus, because a war amongst Milky Way populations is not sustainable and will led to extinction of the human race in Andromeda (making Reyes one of the most sensible people in the entire game). Also he’s greedy, so he wants credits, and most likely power. We know he he left Nexus because he didn't trust Tann's leadership skills, and ditto for Sloane on Kadara, so he clearly has his own distinct vision how things should be run, to the degree that he's willing to grasp power for himself in order to do the things he perceives as correct (his good deeds as the Charlatan go here). Oh oh, and he’s been worried about his very survival, so he wants to stay alive by any means, the sensible man that he is. He values results and getting things done over over-emotional crap or even ethics, meaning he doesn't care about getting his way lawfully. He’s extremely private, but is willing to open up to Ryder if romanced exclusively. :3 He’s vain about his handsome face and takes care of his hair~ I mean, all that's commonly known, and it's plenty IMO. Way more than some one-note NPCs get.

Changing topics slightly, all in all I like that his characterization’s conveyed almost entirely through actions, not exposition dialogue that sounds like the voice actor is reading a character concept sheet; Gil was really bad about this, literally just saying “I tend to live the way I work: kinda ‘feel it, do it’, not a lot of close ties, no real sense of purpose” (probably top-5 bad writing in the game IMO, fucking nobody introduces themselves like that). Plenty other NPCs also did just declare similarly unsubtle statements about themselves. Even if we never learn more about Reyes' past etc., he’s still very well put together and whole character, and comes across better than several other NPCs with more content.

Well, Reyes pretty much sees right through Ryder, so why not?

Besides, real professionalism is hard to hide even when you're flirting like there's no tomorrow...
That analysis :wub:

. Can't be more true, but still I sometimes wonder about that seeming discrepancy in his character, namely the way he works vs the way he presents himself.. He seems pretty outgoing for someone so perfectly content to conduct all his business in the shadows, always as if he were showing-off, but then very eager to stay out of the spotlight. One people meet through business exclusively but then attempting to win them over, very well aware of his charm. He seems quite open but then again as you pointed out he's really not. Much of what he shows in dealing with people might then be just for show, a convenience to get by. And the explanation to that would be the one little overarching why that is still somehow missing to me. You don't usually see those two ways of going around mixed together... So is he actually all business and shades, willing to use anything, even his way with words and manipulation to get his, or is the shady stuff and stying out of sight just a way to cover his own ass, just in case, after all, the business is dangerous and he only has one ass so no standing where it can be hit? (An introvert pretending to be extraverted to get his way or a unusually spotlight-shy extravert in short... might seem minor but it leaves quite a hole from my point of view nevertheless). And there's of course no way to tell from those few actions.

Aug 14, 2017 21:41:10 GMT tehprincessj said:

DO IT.

And again, if you love Drack as much as I do, try saving the scouts over Raeka. You get Drack's flirt line and the side quest about Kesh + Vorn = babies!!! if you do

Lol, if I had enough data where I'm sitting, I'd post a picture of some of those cartoon hypno-things :lol:

No need, though, I'm pretty much set.
I love Drack more and more with every playthrough and this is a crucial component in my setting the course, so poor Raeka stands no chance... again. But wait, the flirt line is tied to this too? *krogan style chuckling*

Reyes, a boss from hell... Not even allowing the short walk to the cave's mouth once a day for a breather.

An occasional butt shot would be fine by me, if were they reserved for romanced LIs at appropriate moments and not when panicking about their sister. I wouldn't say no if Reyes' actually had a butt to begin with lol.* There's also the common issue of MEA that people's torsos seem very long and their legs short, and Reyes' outfit often seems a really bad case of this. I'll take this moment to also say that his little vest looks really pointless. 

I guess it's only purpose to be able to stick weapons onto his back. (*see attached image)
Oh right, those flags, what an oversight.  :lol:

Unless the logo is some old Kadara coat of arms type of thing that Sloane appropriated to enforce her “right” to rule over the Port. Well, the devs probably thought that nobody would bother coming to the Port after resolving High Noon and doing a victory lap to hear people’s comments, so why bother changing anything. I think there should’ve been at least one Kadara mission after High Noon to establish the Collective’s new rule or the Outcasts’ reinforced rule. Give us a more concrete taste of the consequences of our choices.

Hehe, he does rule from a place called Tartarus, doesn't he?

Shady lord of the Underworld. Perhaps he's even behind the name somewhere. Hint hint. Well, hint hint if people who work for him actually knew that part.
I could live without buttshots of any kind very well and happily, but will not complain too much as people seem to like them... But hey, in some scenes they even makes sense... as in "Well, you have to suffer through a two minute dialogue about my family, look at my butt" Faaair :nod:

I'd be all for a quest like that. (Or generally some more quests before High noon. Getting yet a bit more entangled in the entire situation, not just run around several times) Strange it's not even there, such things used to happen.

Well I for one like Mr. Sniper Guy.

Besides, Reyes’ dramatic “Kadara Port is ours tonight!” was directed to him alone, since there weren’t other Collective people around, so they’re totally buds. And he gets to “prepare the crew” so he does more than just shoot people. And he removes the corpse. A versatile guy to have around.

If Ryder is smart they tell Reyes to kill Kaetus anyway. Is there honestly any way that he would work for the Charlatan? Reyes can be good with his mouth, but not that good. He’d be back like Saren’s asari scientist if left alive.

Also I know what you meant, but the first thing in my mind was an image of a grumpy Evfra, painted with glow-in-the-dark paint. :lol:

Who wouldn’t love Mr. Sniper Guy

Good shoting, all those functions and an attentive audience for all your dramatic needs when you take over a planet (If he ever shows up just so we could find out he’s a complete and utter dick, I’ll riot). More seriously, he "prepares the crew" huh. That guy must really by high ranking. And well-trusted. Now it makes me even more curious where Reyes got him.
You’re right about Kaetus post- High noon, it’s for the best, I guess. One doesn’t just let a most likely capable turian with a grudge run around. I was aiming more at the hypothetic DLC where Sloane has that accident.
Lol. This doesn’t disprove this rule at all. If anything it just strenghtens it. :lol:

Just imagine that expression glowing from the darkness. You could scare the Kett away with it. Or put it on recruitment posters.

The turf wars in the Kadara wilds were extensive, so I guess they worked like uniforms in a war, so they’d know who’s on their side and who is not. It's maybe best to assume that they don regular clothes when doing spy stuff.

He’d definitely do the knife doodling at Kralla’s. Kian and he have a gentlemen’s agreement and all, Reyes wouldn’t ruin Kian’s tables. (Btw I wanna know if Kian and Reyes casually fucked. And in general, if there were more Reyes content, we should meet an ex-bf of his next time or have him talk of one. Since he is supposed to be bi, it should show somewhere other than just if you’re playing Scott and want to romance him.)

But then where would he design the logo when there are no napkins?

Yeah, yeah, he could use some boring means like the omni tool, but where would be the style in that? Hmm, then again having a variety of Collective logos carved into your table might be potentially incriminating...
They might have, I suppose? But they are a little similar looking so maybe that made them cool down. As for others... well Reyes meets a lot of people. Tartarus is full of people too. The list of Reyes’ exs might just be more than anyone bargained for :lol:

(And now I imagine Tartatus and the Kadara port being full of Reyes’ ex-lovers. I can’t decide if it’s funny or disturbing)

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 15, 2017 19:14:51 GMT BloodOfShiagur, antmarch456, and 2 more like this

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Post by Zitrus on Aug 15, 2017 19:14:51 GMT

Reyes, a boss from hell... Not even allowing the short walk to the cave's mouth once a day for a breather.

An occasional butt shot would be fine by me, if were they reserved for romanced LIs at appropriate moments and not when panicking about their sister. I wouldn't say no if Reyes' actually had a butt to begin with lol.* There's also the common issue of MEA that people's torsos seem very long and their legs short, and Reyes' outfit often seems a really bad case of this. I'll take this moment to also say that his little vest looks really pointless.

I guess it's only purpose to be able to stick weapons onto his back. (*see attached image)

Oh right, those flags, what an oversight. :lol:

Unless the logo is some old Kadara coat of arms type of thing that Sloane appropriated to enforce her “right” to rule over the Port. Well, the devs probably thought that nobody would bother coming to the Port after resolving High Noon and doing a victory lap to hear people’s comments, so why bother changing anything. I think there should’ve been at least one Kadara mission after High Noon to establish the Collective’s new rule or the Outcasts’ reinforced rule. Give us a more concrete taste of the consequences of our choices.

All in the name of secrecy. :ph34r:

Hehe, he hides his butt pretty well in his clothes. When he hangs out at Kralla's you can see it a bit. Luckily, all male humans share the same body structure in the game so we know how he looks. And just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet, he would look like this without his suit:

butt incoming

The padding (or what that is) on the front does make his torso look even longer, yes^^. I find his jacket is like his trademark. I only realized late that Bradley has the same but in blue. The game files actually refer to it as Reyes' jacket. ^_^

Yes, I had this thought about the flags too, could be. Then it at least makes sense they stay. Eh well, nice of them to have the NPCs comment quite a bit then lol.
I would have liked another mission as well or more before.

Two last names are pretty common with some Spanish speakers, aren't they? Till recently I actually wondered whether Reyes was indeed a given name and not the middle part of Something Reyes Vidal, but since he claims Reyes is what his mother called him, probably not.

Yes, they have the first last names of their father and mother. Reyes is a name that can be a first or a surname. I'm sure it's his first name, just makes sense and I never thought otherwise^^. Could be they don't have the practice of two last names anymore in the future or it's because in everyday life mostly only the first last name is used.

I know, but she refers to the past so Ryder should have taken more professional than casual replies in his Reyes convos for Reyes to have been able to gush about it to Keema. With Reyes, it's all flirts all the time, so not necessarily the most professional approach ever.

He’s still very mysterious, true, but I feel like we get a good grasp of his motivations and mindset. Let’s see. We know he wants to be someone, and peace in Heleus, because a war amongst Milky Way populations is not sustainable and will led to extinction of the human race in Andromeda (making Reyes one of the most sensible people in the entire game). Also he’s greedy, so he wants credits, and most likely power. We know he he left Nexus because he didn't trust Tann's leadership skills, and ditto for Sloane on Kadara, so he clearly has his own distinct vision how things should be run, to the degree that he's willing to grasp power for himself in order to do the things he perceives as correct (his good deeds as the Charlatan go here). Oh oh, and he’s been worried about his very survival, so he wants to stay alive by any means, the sensible man that he is. He values results and getting things done over over-emotional crap or even ethics, meaning he doesn't care about getting his way lawfully. He’s extremely private, but is willing to open up to Ryder if romanced exclusively. :3 He’s vain about his handsome face and takes care of his hair~ I mean, all that's commonly known, and it's plenty IMO. Way more than some one-note NPCs get.

Changing topics slightly, all in all I like that his characterization’s conveyed almost entirely through actions, not exposition dialogue that sounds like the voice actor is reading a character concept sheet; Gil was really bad about this, literally just saying “I tend to live the way I work: kinda ‘feel it, do it’, not a lot of close ties, no real sense of purpose” (probably top-5 bad writing in the game IMO, fucking nobody introduces themselves like that). Plenty other NPCs also did just declare similarly unsubtle statements about themselves. Even if we never learn more about Reyes' past etc., he’s still very well put together and whole character, and comes across better than several other NPCs with more content.

Well, Reyes pretty much sees right through Ryder, so why not?

Besides, real professionalism is hard to hide even when you're flirting like there's no tomorrow...
That analysis :wub:

. Can't be more true, but still I sometimes wonder about that seeming discrepancy in his character, namely the way he works vs the way he presents himself.. He seems pretty outgoing for someone so perfectly content to conduct all his business in the shadows, always as if he were showing-off, but then very eager to stay out of the spotlight. One people meet through business exclusively but then attempting to win them over, very well aware of his charm. He seems quite open but then again as you pointed out he's really not. Much of what he shows in dealing with people might then be just for show, a convenience to get by. And the explanation to that would be the one little overarching why that is still somehow missing to me. You don't usually see those two ways of going around mixed together... So is he actually all business and shades, willing to use anything, even his way with words and manipulation to get his, or is the shady stuff and stying out of sight just a way to cover his own ass, just in case, after all, the business is dangerous and he only has one ass so no standing where it can be hit? (An introvert pretending to be extraverted to get his way or a unusually spotlight-shy extravert in short... might seem minor but it leaves quite a hole from my point of view nevertheless). And there's of course no way to tell from those few actions.

Very astute observations.

Different situations require a different approach. More charming when he's just being there as the smuggler and more commanding and secretive as the Charlatan. You have to gain his trust to get him to show his vulnerable side and who he is because he has to be careful and is quite reserved in that matter.

The turf wars in the Kadara wilds were extensive, so I guess they worked like uniforms in a war, so they’d know who’s on their side and who is not. It's maybe best to assume that they don regular clothes when doing spy stuff.

He’d definitely do the knife doodling at Kralla’s. Kian and he have a gentlemen’s agreement and all, Reyes wouldn’t ruin Kian’s tables. (Btw I wanna know if Kian and Reyes casually fucked. And in general, if there were more Reyes content, we should meet an ex-bf of his next time or have him talk of one. Since he is supposed to be bi, it should show somewhere other than just if you’re playing Scott and want to romance him.)

But then where would he design the logo when there are no napkins?

Yeah, yeah, he could use some boring means like the omni tool, but where would be the style in that? Hmm, then again having a variety of Collective logos carved into your table might be potentially incriminating...
They might have, I suppose? But they are a little similar looking so maybe that made them cool down. As for others... well Reyes meets a lot of people. Tartarus is full of people too. The list of Reyes’ exs might just be more than anyone bargained for :lol:

(And now I imagine Tartatus and the Kadara port being full of Reyes’ ex-lovers. I can’t decide if it’s funny or disturbing)

Maybe, depends on their stances on friends-with-benefits and if Kian swings that way. Hopefully his ex-bf is not like Zia, trying to kill him and all that.

I don't think he has that many exes. It's always a risk to let someone be so close to him. And I like to think he has some standards.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 16, 2017 10:38:10 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 2 more like this

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Post by orchid on Aug 16, 2017 10:38:10 GMT

That analysis :wub:

. Can't be more true, but still I sometimes wonder about that seeming discrepancy in his character, namely the way he works vs the way he presents himself.. He seems pretty outgoing for someone so perfectly content to conduct all his business in the shadows, always as if he were showing-off, but then very eager to stay out of the spotlight. One people meet through business exclusively but then attempting to win them over, very well aware of his charm. He seems quite open but then again as you pointed out he's really not. Much of what he shows in dealing with people might then be just for show, a convenience to get by. And the explanation to that would be the one little overarching why that is still somehow missing to me. You don't usually see those two ways of going around mixed together... So is he actually all business and shades, willing to use anything, even his way with words and manipulation to get his, or is the shady stuff and stying out of sight just a way to cover his own ass, just in case, after all, the business is dangerous and he only has one ass so no standing where it can be hit? (An introvert pretending to be extraverted to get his way or a unusually spotlight-shy extravert in short... might seem minor but it leaves quite a hole from my point of view nevertheless). And there's of course no way to tell from those few actions.

Well said. Funnily enough, this is actually referenced in the game, when Reyes says he’s too shy to chase Ryder, and Ryder answers sarcastically ”yeah, a real introvert”.

I like to think Reyes is just extremely careful. He certainly likes interacting with people and is very sure of his charm, but he likes to keep his cards hidden. I don’t really see conflict in his behavior. He’s personable and likes to lay on the charm, in personal interactions. The shadowy part comes in larger scale dealings, largely by necessity I imagine. He doesn’t hide his Charlatan identity because of shyness, but to make sure he has his butt covered.

There’s also how he points that he lies and is greedy, which all is true, but also which he brings to forefront to mask his deeper thoughts and intentions (aka him being a shadowy and powerful leader rather than just a little greedbag smuggler). Well, I’ve been playing Kotor2 lately, so maybe that interpretation is Atton influencing my brain. :lol:

Another thing I like is how the player has to stitch together all the pieces of information to learn Reyes’ whole deal. He doesn’t pop up and say “I set up the slum’s soup kitchen as the Charlatan”. You have to listen to NPCs and read notepads and then afterwards figure out that it was part of Reyes’ bigger plan to create a more functional society or at least infrastructure. Some goes for the bad stuff that’s easy to ignore. Getting to know Reyes requires Ryder (and the player) to be vigilant and sharp about details, which I think is very fitting, since that’s how Reyes is himself.

Hehe, he does rule from a place called Tartarus, doesn't he?

Shady lord of the Underworld. Perhaps he's even behind the name somewhere. Hint hint. Well, hint hint if people who work for him actually knew that part.

Haha, the King of the Underworld strikes again. People better be careful about agreeing to work at his underground lair. I wonder if Reyes appreciates these implications himself. :lol:

Who wouldn’t love Mr. Sniper Guy

Good shoting, all those functions and an attentive audience for all your dramatic needs when you take over a planet (If he ever shows up just so we could find out he’s a complete and utter dick, I’ll riot). More seriously, he "prepares the crew" huh. That guy must really by high ranking. And well-trusted. Now it makes me even more curious where Reyes got him.

Maybe all it means is dragging Sloane’s corpse to the shuttle and saying “we succeeded” to the crew waiting inside (imagine how nervous they’d be, especially if they monitored the situation and saw who Sloane had coming along with her). And then speculating what the Charlatan and the Pathfinder could possibly be discussing. Nah, I like to think he’s Reyes’ n:o 1 man. Like Kaetus to Sloane, except without the crush/lover thing.

They might have, I suppose? But they are a little similar looking so maybe that made them cool down. As for others... well Reyes meets a lot of people. Tartarus is full of people too. The list of Reyes’ exs might just be more than anyone bargained for :lol:

(And now I imagine Tartatus and the Kadara port being full of Reyes’ ex-lovers. I can’t decide if it’s funny or disturbing)

Lol the immediate thing I noticed that Kian was rather good looking. And then that he and Reyes have a deal… I imagine Reyes might prefer a seemingly smart bartender to many of the random exiles populating Kadara. Oh and Elaaden, too, considering how one chooses to interpret that comment by the Turian(?) at Elaaden.

Zitrus If we only could see Reyes like that (well, also without the jacket, trademark of his or not :lol:

) in the game. As for the name, that could be a futuristic touch indeed. I liked in early ME games how people had first and last names from different cultures, as opposed to something as boring as "Scott Ryder". Not everybody on planet Earth is an anglo, after all.

You have to gain his trust to get him to show his vulnerable side and who he is because he has to be careful and is quite reserved in that matter.

I don't think he has that many exes. It's always a risk to let someone be so close to him. And I like to think he has some standards.

Well, he might have. Though there's only limited time for him have been fooling around after leaving Nexus.

I think it's possible his Charlatan secrecy may have torpedoed some of his love affairs. He must have been secretive, having to obfuscate his goings and comings, but unable to tell his partner why. Not trusting a lover enough to reveal his secret, he chose to lie, but he doesn't like lying to someone he cares about; this we know from how he keeps from moving the relationship with Ryder into having sex until after High Noon, and how he loudly proclaims that he is a liar instead of just lying subtly. Someone like Zia would never know the truth and therefore assume the worst of him forever.

For those that don’t follow the Twitter thread in General discussion, BioWare asked about people’s Sloane/Reyes choices. I guess that means they’re not considering it a big spoiler anymore. I wonder if there’s any significance to that? I hope they’ll eventually release the telemetry on people’s choice in High Noon; I imagine it’s largely 50-50. Oh and also the LI statistics. I wanna know how many fell for Reyes, or if he's the least and last (outside the flings Keri and Avela).

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 16, 2017 19:46:54 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 1 more like this

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There’s also how he points that he lies and is greedy, which all is true, but also which he brings to forefront to mask his deeper thoughts and intentions (aka him being a shadowy and powerful leader rather than just a little greedbag smuggler). Well, I’ve been playing Kotor2 lately, so maybe that interpretation is Atton influencing my brain. :lol:

Another thing I like is how the player has to stitch together all the pieces of information to learn Reyes’ whole deal. He doesn’t pop up and say “I set up the slum’s soup kitchen as the Charlatan”. You have to listen to NPCs and read notepads and then afterwards figure out that it was part of Reyes’ bigger plan to create a more functional society or at least infrastructure. Some goes for the bad stuff that’s easy to ignore. Getting to know Reyes requires Ryder (and the player) to be vigilant and sharp about details, which I think is very fitting, since that’s how Reyes is himself.

Hehe, Atton "Lemme shoot him in the back, no one has to know" Rand and pazaak.

Yes, it is more interesting than if you're told everything outright, do a little digging on your own, it's like a reward for being thorough. Of course, this can lead to being upset/horrified/whatever if you find out things you didn't expect.

Oh and Elaaden, too, considering how one chooses to interpret that comment by the Turian(?) at Elaaden.

Considering the Collective is also on Elaaden I supect he was there as well for a while. (This one datapad in Draullir has the members on Kadara wondering if the scrap is from Elaaden. They don't know they have an operation there?) She talks about the fees on Kadara so probably makes shipments there herself. She could know him from either location.

Zitrus If we only could see Reyes like that (well, also without the jacket, trademark of his or not :lol:

) in the game. As for the name, that could be a futuristic touch indeed. I liked in early ME games how people had first and last names from different cultures, as opposed to something as boring as "Scott Ryder". Not everybody on planet Earth is an anglo, after all.

That would be :thumbsup:

. Of course without his jacket for this occasion^^.
Yes, I remember them as well, like the admiral who wanted to inspect the Normandy or the guy who wanted to retrieve his wife's corpse. They could have also given Ellen a non English last name at least. I wish they would've managed what they originally wanted, that you could choose among different first names which would be spoken as well. I remember reading an early preview where this was mentioned.

For those that don’t follow the Twitter thread in General discussion, BioWare asked about people’s Sloane/Reyes choices. I guess that means they’re not considering it a big spoiler anymore. I wonder if there’s any significance to that? I hope they’ll eventually release the telemetry on people’s choice in High Noon; I imagine it’s largely 50-50. Oh and also the LI statistics. I wanna know how many fell for Reyes, or if he's the least and last (outside the flings Keri and Avela).

Oh yes, I saw that, I check it most days. It could be just to engage the community, keep up interest for the game, maybe they are preparing such a decision poster and just use the questions as teaser. My secret hope is that these are decisions which will come up in a dlc. 50:50 sounds likely if the thread and the twitter comments are an indication.
I wonder how they track the romance and everything. I mean if a player loads a save and does a decision over and over again, does this count every time? There was this unofficial romance poll on reddit, I think it was even mentioned in here?

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 16, 2017 22:10:15 GMT tehprincessj, orchid, and 1 more like this

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Well said. Funnily enough, this is actually referenced in the game, when Reyes says he’s too shy to chase Ryder, and Ryder answers sarcastically ”yeah, a real introvert”.

I like to think Reyes is just extremely careful. He certainly likes interacting with people and is very sure of his charm, but he likes to keep his cards hidden. I don’t really see conflict in his behavior. He’s personable and likes to lay on the charm, in personal interactions. The shadowy part comes in larger scale dealings, largely by necessity I imagine. He doesn’t hide his Charlatan identity because of shyness, but to make sure he has his butt covered.

There’s also how he points that he lies and is greedy, which all is true, but also which he brings to forefront to mask his deeper thoughts and intentions (aka him being a shadowy and powerful leader rather than just a little greedbag smuggler). Well, I’ve been playing Kotor2 lately, so maybe that interpretation is Atton influencing my brain. :lol:

Another thing I like is how the player has to stitch together all the pieces of information to learn Reyes’ whole deal. He doesn’t pop up and say “I set up the slum’s soup kitchen as the Charlatan”. You have to listen to NPCs and read notepads and then afterwards figure out that it was part of Reyes’ bigger plan to create a more functional society or at least infrastructure. Some goes for the bad stuff that’s easy to ignore. Getting to know Reyes requires Ryder (and the player) to be vigilant and sharp about details, which I think is very fitting, since that’s how Reyes is himself.

I love that exchange. Seriously, there should be more like that, the whole romance business tends to get way too serious at times.

Yeah and that’s exactly why Reyes Vidal and the Charlatan seem like two different personalities sometimes... It’s not really conflict, just poses a question which one of them he gravitates towards when not pressed by any survival measures. While I’m inclined to go more with what you said (secrecy as cover, social skills first), he really goes into quite some length in being secretive about himself and making people see of him just what he wants them to (unless those rare cases when he happens to have quite a lot of trust in someone). Guess he might be just super extra careful not to get suspected, but still, should it prove true he thinks in an entirely different way than anyone envisioned, I’d be hardly surprised. Funny, that.

Maybe, depends on their stances on friends-with-benefits and if Kian swings that way. Hopefully his ex-bf is not like Zia, trying to kill him and all that.

I don't think he has that many exes. It's always a risk to let someone be so close to him. And I like to think he has some standards.

I don’t know, having to beat a horde mode of Reyes’ angry exs might be a fun little quest :lol:

(or at least a ME3 style horrifying recurrent dream of Ryder’s

)

But see, that’s a nice illustration of what I meant with his elusive character traits and impression warping. He just seems like the type, no additional thought needed. And it might not even be true by a long shot.
Btw am I missing anything about a turian on Elaaden? Something about her and Reyes specifically? I know she says something about the amount of people Reyes knows but this seems like there’s more?

Well, he might have. Though there's only limited time for him have been fooling around after leaving Nexus.

I think it's possible his Charlatan secrecy may have torpedoed some of his love affairs. He must have been secretive, having to obfuscate his goings and comings, but unable to tell his partner why. Not trusting a lover enough to reveal his secret, he chose to lie, but he doesn't like lying to someone he cares about; this we know from how he keeps from moving the relationship with Ryder into having sex until after High Noon, and how he loudly proclaims that he is a liar instead of just lying subtly. Someone like Zia would never know the truth and therefore assume the worst of him forever.

Reminded me of Arcade- "Lovers make poor confidantes". But that would tie to the question how many of the people Reyes slept (or drank) with were actually "lovers", aka those that mattered enough to even prompt such difficulties. Guess that if he really were that careful about who he lets close (as in more than casual sex close), in those few months he spent on Kadara he’d rarely have to think about that.

Aug 16, 2017 19:46:54 GMT Zitrus said:

Hehe, Atton "Lemme shoot him in the back, no one has to know" Rand and pazaak.

Atton the guy with the half-naked interrogation stuff? He’s like the only thing I remember from kotor2. Strange game, that one :why:

I’ve seen him compared to Reyes before, would anyone care to elaborate?

Maybe all it means is dragging Sloane’s corpse to the shuttle and saying “we succeeded” to the crew waiting inside (imagine how nervous they’d be, especially if they monitored the situation and saw who Sloane had coming along with her). And then speculating what the Charlatan and the Pathfinder could possibly be discussing. Nah, I like to think he’s Reyes’ n:o 1 man. Like Kaetus to Sloane, except without the crush/lover thing.

Aww, Mr. Sniper Guy the do-girl seems about as bad as Mr. Sniper Guy the dick.

And mere reporting success is not really preparing the crew... I’d more expect him to be the one to start the Collective’s move on Kadara, so pretty much second in command, even. Agreed, nothing less than a very chatty legendary Collective member just won’t do. Reyes and Ryder "Discussing", huh. The guys in the shuttle might be pretty much suprised by the discussion taking place in that cave. :lol:

Wonder how much was suspected about Reyes and Ryder not only Collective-wise but around the Port generally. Rumors like this are fun, after all.
So, Mr. Sniper guy/ Reyes is not becoming a ship then?

Haha, the King of the Underworld strikes again. People better be careful about agreeing to work at his underground lair. I wonder if Reyes appreciates these implications himself. :lol:

Also, most people don’t know where exactly to look for him unless told by a mighty shady figure... or the king himself. One who can help you in the matter of life and death. It’s also prudent not to sign anything he might give you and generally avoid any kind of dealing, especially if you can’t be bothered to read all those little letters at the bottom of the page.

I’d almost say he does, after all, they’re both shady and promptly dramatic... and he stil stays in the Underworld when he could have the throne room. Or a better room, at least.

Aug 16, 2017 19:46:54 GMT Zitrus said:

For those that don’t follow the Twitter thread in General discussion, BioWare asked about people’s Sloane/Reyes choices. I guess that means they’re not considering it a big spoiler anymore. I wonder if there’s any significance to that? I hope they’ll eventually release the telemetry on people’s choice in High Noon; I imagine it’s largely 50-50. Oh and also the LI statistics. I wanna know how many fell for Reyes, or if he's the least and last (outside the flings Keri and Avela).

Oh yes, I saw that, I check it most days. It could be just to engage the community, keep up interest for the game, maybe they are preparing such a decision poster and just use the questions as teaser. My secret hope is that these are decisions which will come up in a dlc. 50:50 sounds likely if the thread and the twitter comments are an indication.
I wonder how they track the romance and everything. I mean if a player loads a save and does a decision over and over again, does this count every time? There was this unofficial romance poll on reddit, I think it was even mentioned in here?

Well, at least they could be trying to stir a discussion, which might possibly even be a good sign. But 50:50 on the High noon choice? Judging from BSN only it doesn’t seem that equal to me. Unless the BSN is particularly biased I’d say Reyes should have the lead.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 16, 2017 23:28:50 GMT BloodOfShiagur, orchid, and 2 more like this

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Because Atton is shifty but smooth. He's handsome and well acted and funny. He's ambiguous with a really dark past, but falls head over heals for the Exile. He's the only thing you remember from KotOR 2 because he's the best part of KotOR 2. Sorry. My fangirl is showing. :facepalm:

Speaking of... wish Obsidian would drop a re-mastered version of that game. Probably never ever happen since Disney killed LucasArts. I have it for xbox, which could play on my 360, but... I'm in a bit of a muddle since I only want to play my X Bone. I've finished my final playthrough of Andromeda for the foreseeable future, and so far, I've tried putting in both Fallout 4 and Skyrim and quit after about 2 hours of the former and 15 minutes of the latter. Dragon's Dogma gets a remaster that won't be out until Halloween, and I just don't even know what I'm supposed to play in the meantime.

Have 2 final screenies from me (for now) - dancing Reyes:

The ones featuring his bare butt made me all blushy, I'm not even going to lie.

And orchid , I headcanon Kian offering Reyes BJs, but it's lighthearted and always turned down. I like the idea of Reyes with friends and lots of sexual experience, but not a whole lot of drama (beyond what Zia brings, and he's quick enough to say they only had drinks).

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Post by starlord on Aug 17, 2017 2:18:20 GMT

Because Atton is shifty but smooth. He's handsome and well acted and funny. He's ambiguous with a really dark past, but falls head over heals for the Exile. He's the only thing you remember from KotOR 2 because he's the best part of KotOR 2. Sorry. My fangirl is showing. :facepalm:

Speaking of... wish Obsidian would drop a re-mastered version of that game. Probably never ever happen since Disney killed LucasArts. I have it for xbox, which could play on my 360, but... I'm in a bit of a muddle since I only want to play my X Bone. I've finished my final playthrough of Andromeda for the foreseeable future, and so far, I've tried putting in both Fallout 4 and Skyrim and quit after about 2 hours of the former and 15 minutes of the latter. Dragon's Dogma gets a remaster that won't be out until Halloween, and I just don't even know what I'm supposed to play in the meantime.

Have 2 final screenies from me (for now) - dancing Reyes:

The ones featuring his bare butt made me all blushy, I'm not even going to lie.

And orchid , I headcanon Kian offering Reyes BJs, but it's lighthearted and always turned down. I like the idea of Reyes with friends and lots of sexual experience, but not a whole lot of drama (beyond what Zia brings, and he's quick enough to say they only had drinks).

Oh! I can give you some suggestions if you'd like!

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I personally want Obsidian to do another Fallout game- with Bethesda's newest engine. I keep hearing false rumors about Fallout: New Orleans and, like, holy fuck- if Bethesda gave them that IP the world would just be a better place.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 17, 2017 4:31:48 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 1 more like this

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Aug 16, 2017 19:46:54 GMT Zitrus said:

Oh yes, I saw that, I check it most days. It could be just to engage the community, keep up interest for the game, maybe they are preparing such a decision poster and just use the questions as teaser. My secret hope is that these are decisions which will come up in a dlc. 50:50 sounds likely if the thread and the twitter comments are an indication.
I wonder how they track the romance and everything. I mean if a player loads a save and does a decision over and over again, does this count every time? There was this unofficial romance poll on reddit, I think it was even mentioned in here?

It feels like they’re not courting brand new players anymore, if this big reveal is out in the open on twitter.

I think they count the firsts only. Otherwise the results would be skewed by things like me letting Sloane get shot a fifty thousand times in order to take subpar screenshots of Reyes. That approach also has it problems, of course, like people such as me first checking out if Mass Effect would run on their computer by choosing quick start and thus contributing to the “John Shepard, Soldier” pile of boring. They could only count full PTs, but majority of players don't finish even their first PT, so i dunno.

The unofficial poll was posted, but I'd guess it's skewed. Majority of players probably just pick Cora or whichever asari. Still, I'd like to think that Reyes charmed the pants off a decent chunk of people...

I love that exchange. Seriously, there should be more like that, the whole romance business tends to get way too serious at times.

It does? I feel their exchanges are very light and fun. Maybe you should roll a male Ryder – he’s not half the nag that Sara is, where tone of voice is considered.

Also you wouldn’t have to ponder compromising your pro-Sloane canon Ryder.

(I have a good f!Ryder that I’ve been playing with a little, but I really can’t enjoy the VA, as weird as that is. Maybe I could try and see how far my German skills would take me, if the game even allows switching languages.)

Yeah and that’s exactly why Reyes Vidal and the Charlatan seem like two different personalities sometimes... It’s not really conflict, just poses a question which one of them he gravitates towards when not pressed by any survival measures. While I’m inclined to go more with what you said (secrecy as cover, social skills first), he really goes into quite some length in being secretive about himself and making people see of him just what he wants them to (unless those rare cases when he happens to have quite a lot of trust in someone). Guess he might be just super extra careful not to get suspected, but still, should it prove true he thinks in an entirely different way than anyone envisioned, I’d be hardly surprised. Funny, that.

I think he’s just himself most of the time, whether it's playing a small-time smuggler or orchestrating the Collective, and even more so when he's alone with Ryder. I believe him when he says “you know who I really am”. Remember that the Charlatan identity isn’t even an identity; he didn’t set out to create a specific character, it was constructed by other people, i.e. he never acts as the Charlatan, who exists only in notepad orders and people's rumors. The Collective's high ranking agents obviously recognize him and he probably doesn't put on any grand show for them, considering how practical he is (well, the duel sham withstanding). He can take a more commanding stance when giving orders, but that's only natural to anyone who's in charge at a work like his, and not an entirely different personality.

Btw am I missing anything about a turian on Elaaden? Something about her and Reyes specifically? I know she says something about the amount of people Reyes knows but this seems like there’s more?

Nah.

It’s just that her comment could merely mean business transactions (maybe Reyes steals customers from other smugglers), and not knowing him sexually. Didn't want to assume too much, is all.

Reminded me of Arcade- "Lovers make poor confidantes". But that would tie to the question how many of the people Reyes slept (or drank) with were actually "lovers", aka those that mattered enough to even prompt such difficulties. Guess that if he really were that careful about who he lets close (as in more than casual sex close), in those few months he spent on Kadara he’d rarely have to think about that.

And orchid , I headcanon Kian offering Reyes BJs, but it's lighthearted and always turned down. I like the idea of Reyes with friends and lots of sexual experience, but not a whole lot of drama (beyond what Zia brings, and he's quick enough to say they only had drinks).

That’s a good headcanon. *nods sagely* However, he did not say “only” drinks!

He just trailed off and changed the topic. I think it’s safe to assume they were together. Not that it matters really lol.

I think I tend to agree with you both about no-drama being Reyes’ style and that he probably didn't have all that many partners in Heleus. However, I still think that the Charlatan stuff caused trouble with Zial (and anybody else he slept with*), considering how vitriolic and willing to kill Reyes she was. I can’t imagine wanting any of my exes dead, even if some of them were goddamn assholes.

*I don't think he'd do anything with the Collective operatives, he's too smart for that.

Atton the guy with the half-naked interrogation stuff? He’s like the only thing I remember from kotor2. Strange game, that one :why:

I’ve seen him compared to Reyes before, would anyone care to elaborate?

Because Atton is shifty but smooth. He's handsome and well acted and funny. He's ambiguous with a really dark past, but falls head over heals for the Exile. He's the only thing you remember from KotOR 2 because he's the best part of KotOR 2. Sorry. My fangirl is showing. :facepalm:

That, and on more basic level: Atton’s a dark haired smuggler/petty criminal and a more grim and shady version of Han Solo. Depending on how much influence your Exile has on him, you can learn that his true identity is very dark indeed – not sure how to compare it to Reyes being the Charlatan, depends on how much torture stuff etc. Reyes actually does (Atton's probably worse, even if only because of the Dark Side in SW universe). And you probably remember the images in this thread about how he and even his clothes resemble Reyes to a degree.

Kreia was easily the best part of Kotor2 though. The best of Avellone’s many great characters. If you’ve forgotten her, BloodOfShiagur, I’d suggest a replay when you got the chance. :smiles:

The guys in the shuttle might be pretty much suprised by the discussion taking place in that cave. :lol:

Wonder how much was suspected about Reyes and Ryder not only Collective-wise but around the Port generally. Rumors like this are fun, after all.
So, Mr. Sniper guy/ Reyes is not becoming a ship then?

Oh yeah, like someone pointed out in the twitter thread, Sloane was really shortsighted to not take closer notice of how Reyes and Ryder are known associates. Even if she didn’t know that Reyes and Ryder came together to her very own party and such, she should’ve paid attention that they acknowledged each other only seconds before she agreed to the duel. Dumb, dumb Sloane. I guess she was all immersed in her bloodrage.

Reyes and Ryder dating makes for a good alibi, by the way. Otherwise people would start talking about just why exactly does the Pathfinder keep going to meet an insignificant smuggler. They’d start first suspect that Reyes is a go-between for the Charlatan and Ryder, and then start speculating if he IS the Charlatan. But now, people just know that they’re a couple, no mystery.

As for the ship... Well. Someone needs to console poor ol' Reyes after all the cruel Ryders shun him in favor of the queen of Kadara.

And the devil/underground king allusions, maybe he’d just be embarrassed. :lol:

I'm in a bit of a muddle since I only want to play my X Bone. I've finished my final playthrough of Andromeda for the foreseeable future, and so far, I've tried putting in both Fallout 4 and Skyrim and quit after about 2 hours of the former and 15 minutes of the latter. Dragon's Dogma gets a remaster that won't be out until Halloween, and I just don't even know what I'm supposed to play in the meantime.

Oooh oooh, is this a call for suggestions?

Are you done with all the other Obsidian games? New Vegas, PoE, Tyranny? Did you play the best game of this year, Prey, yet? I’ve just started to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution (as old as ME2 or so, but somehow it’s evaded me) and already feel like getting sucked in good.

Have 2 final screenies from me (for now) - dancing Reyes:

Final screens better not equal final posts.

Such pretty pics, both have the shiniest hair. ^-^

Aug 17, 2017 2:18:20 GMT starlord said:

I personally want Obsidian to do another Fallout game- with Bethesda's newest engine. I keep hearing false rumors about Fallout: New Orleans and, like, holy fuck- if Bethesda gave them that IP the world would just be a better place.

Obsidian should keep it on the West Coast, let Bethesda do their failed versions in the other regions. I want a continuation to New Vegas some decades later, with a more fleshed out Legion, and of course more NCR. Oh well, not likely, and maybe it’s best that Obsidian gets to do their original IPs at long last.

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Post by MarilynRobert on Aug 17, 2017 6:04:47 GMT

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All in the name of secrecy. :ph34r:

Hehe, he hides his butt pretty well in his clothes. When he hangs out at Kralla's you can see it a bit. Luckily, all male humans share the same body structure in the game so we know how he looks. And just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet, he would look like this without his suit:

butt incoming

The problem with me, when reading or seeing romantic scenes, is that I think too much. Here's the thought this time:

:huh:

So are you telling me that Reyes took off his clothes and then had to put his vest on again for some reason? I just don't understand! :huh:

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 17, 2017 9:30:51 GMT MarilynRobert, BloodOfShiagur, and 2 more like this

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This is your train of thought when looking at the picture? Okay, now I feel so primitive for not thinking of the technicalities :lol:

. Let's see, it's chilly in the cave, he has his back to an entrance and the wind blows in. So he decides to put on his vest again to not get a cold back and neck. Works?

Speaking of... wish Obsidian would drop a re-mastered version of that game. Probably never ever happen since Disney killed LucasArts. I have it for xbox, which could play on my 360, but... I'm in a bit of a muddle since I only want to play my X Bone. I've finished my final playthrough of Andromeda for the foreseeable future, and so far, I've tried putting in both Fallout 4 and Skyrim and quit after about 2 hours of the former and 15 minutes of the latter. Dragon's Dogma gets a remaster that won't be out until Halloween, and I just don't even know what I'm supposed to play in the meantime.

Have 2 final screenies from me (for now) - dancing Reyes:

He always looks so lovely during the dance.

Oh, there are so many games out there, more than one could possibly play.

It feels like they’re not courting brand new players anymore, if this big reveal is out in the open on twitter.

But then they're offering the 10 hour trial again and it's cheaper cheaper now. Ah well, not everyone hangs out on twitter but quite the spoiler for those who do, yep.

(I have a good f!Ryder that I’ve been playing with a little, but I really can’t enjoy the VA, as weird as that is. Maybe I could try and see how far my German skills would take me, if the game even allows switching languages.)

It does, I should know^^. In Origin you have to select the game's properties and then advanced launch options. There you choose German and it will download the sound files. After that you can choose it in the game. You can also select different languages for voice and text.

That’s a good headcanon. *nods sagely* However, he did not say “only” drinks!

He just trailed off and changed the topic. I think it’s safe to assume they were together. Not that it matters really lol.

Right, they "had drinks occasionally". And after that? Hmm hmm?

Oh yeah, like someone pointed out in the twitter thread, Sloane was really shortsighted to not take closer notice of how Reyes and Ryder are known associates. Even if she didn’t know that Reyes and Ryder came together to her very own party and such, she should’ve paid attention that they acknowledged each other only seconds before she agreed to the duel. Dumb, dumb Sloane. I guess she was all immersed in her bloodrage.

Reyes and Ryder dating makes for a good alibi, by the way. Otherwise people would start talking about just why exactly does the Pathfinder keep going to meet an insignificant smuggler. They’d start first suspect that Reyes is a go-between for the Charlatan and Ryder, and then start speculating if he IS the Charlatan. But now, people just know that they’re a couple, no mystery.

Yes. At the party Ryder can tell her a friend invited them. She doesn't care who that might be? Or the guard who sees them maybe tells her later. Although that doesn't work if they hide. And in the cave she's not even surprised and just proceeds with settling things. Not smart.

That's such an easy solution for it.

Oooh oooh, is this a call for suggestions?

Are you done with all the other Obsidian games? New Vegas, PoE, Tyranny? Did you play the best game of this year, Prey, yet? I’ve just started to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution (as old as ME2 or so, but somehow it’s evaded me) and already feel like getting sucked in good.

Oh, I liked this. In those rare games you can play through without killing anyone I always have to go this route. I still carry some guns for the bots though.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 17, 2017 17:54:17 GMT orchid likes this

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Aug 17, 2017 2:18:20 GMT starlord said:

Oh! I can give you some suggestions if you'd like!

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(Stefan never fails to crack me up tbh)

I personally want Obsidian to do another Fallout game- with Bethesda's newest engine. I keep hearing false rumors about Fallout: New Orleans and, like, holy fuck- if Bethesda gave them that IP the world would just be a better place.

Yes, please!

I forgot to add before that I will be picking up the Sims 4 when it comes out in November. And also that I played Fallout 4 and Skyrim at launch, so I was thinking of replaying when I put them in recently (but no, hundreds and hundreds of hours spent in both games = I can't take any more right now).

Maybe you should roll a male Ryder – he’s not half the nag that Sara is, where tone of voice is considered.

Also you wouldn’t have to ponder compromising your pro-Sloane canon Ryder.

(I have a good f!Ryder that I’ve been playing with a little, but I really can’t enjoy the VA, as weird as that is. Maybe I could try and see how far my German skills would take me, if the game even allows switching languages.)

After playing both, I will say that Scott is much, much better with sarcasm. I roll Sara emotional/professional and Scott as casual as is humanly possible. Sara's VA really nails a lot of those emotional lines for me.

I think he’s just himself most of the time, whether it's playing a small-time smuggler or orchestrating the Collective, and even more so when he's alone with Ryder. I believe him when he says “you know who I really am”. Remember that the Charlatan identity isn’t even an identity; he didn’t set out to create a specific character, it was constructed by other people, i.e. he never acts as the Charlatan, who exists only in notepad orders and people's rumors. The Collective's high ranking agents obviously recognize him and he probably doesn't put on any grand show for them, considering how practical he is (well, the duel sham withstanding). He can take a more commanding stance when giving orders, but that's only natural to anyone who's in charge at a work like his, and not an entirely different personality.

This is my interpretation as well.

However, he did not say “only” drinks!

He just trailed off and changed the topic. I think it’s safe to assume they were together.

Oh, absolutely. I just think he saw it as a lot more casual than she did.

Oooh oooh, is this a call for suggestions?

Are you done with all the other Obsidian games? New Vegas, PoE, Tyranny? Did you play the best game of this year, Prey, yet? I’ve just started to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution (as old as ME2 or so, but somehow it’s evaded me) and already feel like getting sucked in good.

I played the crap out of New Vegas. And Alpha Protocol back in the day. I didn't know I could play PoE on the X Bone, but it's looking like First Blood may be coming out at the end of this month. :excited:

Final screens better not equal final posts.

Such pretty pics, both have the shiniest hair. ^-^

NEVER. I'll be here for as long as you are.

And thank you.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 17, 2017 18:21:43 GMT tehprincessj likes this

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These all have ports to Xbox One- but if you have a PS4, I can give you more reccs lol

I so recommend Telltale Batman. Even if you're not a Batman fan (I liked him fine before playing, but this game is legitimately amazing and made me actually like him SO much more.) Comes with so many twists and turns and it is actually incredibly unique in storytelling and it isn't afraid to fuck with the canon to badass and mind blowing results. Also Selina Kyle and Bruce's relationship is pretty big here and it's fucking fantastic. I don't want to give you a synopsis because I think you should just throw yourself into it and experience it for yourself.

Life is Strange- don't get me started. So good and so cheap rn. Even if you have it Before the Storm's first episode drops in two weeks, so maybe a replay of LIS might cure what ails you

If you're on the fence or haven't played it, let me know so I can give you a synopsis!

American Mcgee's Alice: Madness Returns. If you're able to track it down sealed, you get the first game on PC download for free!

Basically it's Alice and Wonderland, but with a BIG difference. Alice had visited Wonderland in her head countless times before and one night she fell asleep dreaming of another adventure. However while she was dreaming, a fire breaks out in her home and she was the only survivor. She was so traumatized by these events that she was committed into a victorian mental institution. She visits Wonderland, but this time Wonderland is twisted and extremely violent- turning into a action horror game where Alice takes on the world with her Vorpal Blade and other terrifying toys. Madness Returns is the sequel where she sees a psychologist and hypnotist (now she's older), however she is sent spiraling back to Wonderland due to her reexamining what happened to her. It's really cool because it goes back and forth between Victorian London and Wonderland and it delves into Alice's past and her family. I have a lot of feelings about this game and I love it to pieces. (it's backwards compatible, I'm 99.999% sure- and very inexpensive!

www.amazon.com/Alice-Madness-Returns-PC/dp/B004CD9X2C?th=1

I am too excited for the Sims 4 port omg- totally planning on doing an epic Oberyn Martell challenge. Should be lots of fun!

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 17, 2017 20:25:00 GMT MarilynRobert, tehprincessj, and 2 more like this

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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Aug 17, 2017 20:25:00 GMT

Aug 17, 2017 6:04:47 GMT MarilynRobert said:

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The problem with me, when reading or seeing romantic scenes, is that I think too much. Here's the thought this time:

:huh:

So are you telling me that Reyes took off his clothes and then had to put his vest on again for some reason? I just don't understand! :huh:

A woman after my own heart, nice

It does? I feel their exchanges are very light and fun. Maybe you should roll a male Ryder – he’s not half the nag that Sara is, where tone of voice is considered.

Also you wouldn’t have to ponder compromising your pro-Sloane canon Ryder.

Nah I don’t mean Reyes/Ryder, that one’s absolutely fine, even with the nag. It fits my Ryder and I just headcanon it away when inapplicable. I meant other romances. They go the too sweet/all heart-wrenching drama routes too often... You don’t just simply get to fool around with a clever, interesting rogue with some added twists and turns...

And as for compromising, well I’ll find a non-compromising way for once. My Courier never joined the legion just because I spend way too much time with my playthroughs of these games to commit such non-standard excesses, after all. I can do a little non-canon rewrite of Ryder if I can be influenced to rewrite my own damn mind about the matter for a while :lol:

I think he’s just himself most of the time, whether it's playing a small-time smuggler or orchestrating the Collective, and even more so when he's alone with Ryder. I believe him when he says “you know who I really am”. Remember that the Charlatan identity isn’t even an identity; he didn’t set out to create a specific character, it was constructed by other people, i.e. he never acts as the Charlatan, who exists only in notepad orders and people's rumors. The Collective's high ranking agents obviously recognize him and he probably doesn't put on any grand show for them, considering how practical he is (well, the duel sham withstanding). He can take a more commanding stance when giving orders, but that's only natural to anyone who's in charge at a work like his, and not an entirely different personality.

And yet again you make the best fucking point around

Makes sense, all of it. Though what is it he needs that duel shit for when he has a sniper covering his ass all the while is well beyond my limited capabilities of understanding.

Because Atton is shifty but smooth. He's handsome and well acted and funny. He's ambiguous with a really dark past, but falls head over heals for the Exile. He's the only thing you remember from KotOR 2 because he's the best part of KotOR 2. Sorry. My fangirl is showing.  :facepalm:

That, and on more basic level: Atton’s a dark haired smuggler/petty criminal and a more grim and shady version of Han Solo. Depending on how much influence your Exile has on him, you can learn that his true identity is very dark indeed – not sure how to compare it to Reyes being the Charlatan, depends on how much torture stuff etc. Reyes actually does (Atton's probably worse, even if only because of the Dark Side in SW universe). And you probably remember the images in this thread about how he and even his clothes resemble Reyes to a degree.

Kreia was easily the best part of Kotor2 though. The best of Avellone’s many great characters. If you’ve forgotten her, BloodOfShiagur, I’d suggest a replay when you got the chance. :smiles:

Ah, thank you both. Now it makes sense beyond the similar looks. Hmm, I actually remember Kreia, she was the very interesting type that ranted about how much she liked the Exile and then set out to destroy the galaxy or something, leaving me in a very confused state indeed, even more confused and surrealistic one than I'd been in for most of the game... Nah, Kotor2 never fit well with me at all and the only thing that saved it n the end was Atton coming to the exile so that they could walk into space sunset together. "Well, there's that at least" I told myself and that was it. I'm afraid there will be no second chances for this one, though. :noo:

That’s a good headcanon. *nods sagely* However, he did not say “only” drinks!

He just trailed off and changed the topic. I think it’s safe to assume they were together. Not that it matters really lol.

I think I tend to agree with you both about no-drama being Reyes’ style and that he probably didn't have all that many partners in Heleus. However, I still think that the Charlatan stuff caused trouble with Zial (and anybody else he slept with*), considering how vitriolic and willing to kill Reyes she was. I can’t imagine wanting any of my exes dead, even if some of them were goddamn assholes.

*I don't think he'd do anything with the Collective operatives, he's too smart for that.

Do you think it really was the Charlatan stuff and Zia is lying with those claims how he has become bad for business? Considering how pissed off she is, why wouldn’t she take the chance to rub any suspicion right in his newest associate’s (aka Ryder’s) face especially since she can guess that it might seriously hurt Reyes, way more than some missing cargo? Perhaps she could skip that opportunity bacause she already considers him boxed-in well enough, but then again why would she deny herself the pleasure?

Right, they "had drinks occasionally". And after that? Hmm hmm?

They had drinks... they hardly ever remembered what they did after that, of course :lol:

But really, it's sort of funny how Reyes just wriggles out of that one.

Oh yeah, like someone pointed out in the twitter thread, Sloane was really shortsighted to not take closer notice of how Reyes and Ryder are known associates. Even if she didn’t know that Reyes and Ryder came together to her very own party and such, she should’ve paid attention that they acknowledged each other only seconds before she agreed to the duel. Dumb, dumb Sloane. I guess she was all immersed in her bloodrage.

Reyes and Ryder dating makes for a good alibi, by the way. Otherwise people would start talking about just why exactly does the Pathfinder keep going to meet an insignificant smuggler. They’d start first suspect that Reyes is a go-between for the Charlatan and Ryder, and then start speculating if he IS the Charlatan. But now, people just know that they’re a couple, no mystery.

Yes. At the party Ryder can tell her a friend invited them. She doesn't care who that might be? Or the guard who sees them maybe tells her later. Although that doesn't work if they hide. And in the cave she's not even surprised and just proceeds with settling things. Not smart.

On the other hand, she didn't expect Reyes beforehand so what was she to do about that when he showed up, no matter whether she actually paid attention to Ryder's Kadara activities or not? You could say that not paying enough attention to stuff is what gets her killed in the first place anyway but it seems too late for her to change her mind about Ryder's presence at the cave... the only course of action open for her to solve it would be attempting to attack Ryder and that would be one idiotic move with the much more certain enemy right in front of her...

That alibi thing is just plain cute. Although there's still a chance that rumor might spread with them actually dating or not. One thing better than gossipping about the human Pathfinder and a local smuggler? Making inferences about the human Pathfinder and a local smuggler being lovers as well as involved in something underhanded

Edit: ah, one more point about the Reyes/Mr. Sniper guy ship. True, true, at least Reyes has someone dependable and highly functional to love while at least some of those cruel Ryders end up lonely and doubting, having to bear everything -including the far reaching idiocy of Liam Kosta- on their own. It would prove life's a bit fair after all.

But how about Reyes probably never dating his own operatives? A notable exception? :why:

Oooh oooh, is this a call for suggestions? 

  Are you done with all the other Obsidian games? New Vegas, PoE, Tyranny? Did you play the best game of this year, Prey, yet? I’ve just started to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution (as old as ME2 or so, but somehow it’s evaded me) and already feel like getting sucked in good.

Oh, I liked this. In those rare games you can play through without killing anyone I always have to go this route. I still carry some guns for the bots though.

Heh, I had quite some of fun with the Human Revolution for a while, but then the protagonist did... ot better failed to do anything in one particular case and since then I got like "oh, whatever, die, fucking moron, I'm done with you" and couldn't force myself to finish it. The downsides of overly predefined protagonists, I guess. I pretty much prefer Dishonored. At least Corvo knows how to keep his trap shut and doesn't fall for :facepalm:

-inducing traps. Plus cool abilities.

Yeah, the world would be a much beter place with Fallout with Obsidian, although FO4 is decent. But as for the NV continuation, while it would be amazing, I'm not sure how they'd actually go about it. There are way too many ways the individual factions might end so many choices would have to get so levelled...

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 18, 2017 6:12:33 GMT

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Post by Wildfire on Aug 18, 2017 6:12:33 GMT

Hey everyone, would you answer a question for me?

I am trying to decide whether I should romance Reyes or Peebee, and I was just wondering whether there is a certain lock-in point in the romance arc with Reyes? As far as I have understood, Reyes is not like Kerri so locking in with him makes it impossible to pursue relationships with other people.

I can't decide between Peebee and Reyes :crying:

They are both too cute. Just want to know what's the lock-in point so I can postpone the decision to the last moment.

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Hi.

The lock-in option is in the mission High Noon.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 18, 2017 7:21:47 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 1 more like this

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Post by orchid on Aug 18, 2017 7:21:47 GMT

Has anyone watched this speculative MEA video that among other things purports to have "insights" into Reyes' background? Probably 90% of all gaming videos are insufferable and this one isn't an exception, so I wasn't able to endure it myself.

It does, I should know^^. In Origin you have to select the game's properties and then advanced launch options. There you choose German and it will download the sound files. After that you can choose it in the game. You can also select different languages for voice and text.

Thanks! I’ll need to consider this. The possibility of subs in English regardless of spoken language widens the options considerably. Would be interesting to hear Reyes with a different voice, too.

Aug 17, 2017 17:54:17 GMT tehprincessj said:

NEVER. I'll be here for as long as you are.

And thank you.

I love that this thread keeps on going and with such interesting discussions as well. ✿

Nah I don’t mean Reyes/Ryder, that one’s absolutely fine, even with the nag. It fits my Ryder and I just headcanon it away when inapplicable. I meant other romances. They go the too sweet/all heart-wrenching drama routes too often... You don’t just simply get to fool around with a clever, interesting rogue with some added twists and turns...

Lol ok, I misread you. Agreed on sugary romances, and the ones with bad drama (I extremely dislike the common BioWare trope where the PC moves on an emotional vulnerable widow/widower still fully in mourning). Reyes is the best romance I've yet seen (certain non-romance "romances" aside).

Do you think it really was the Charlatan stuff and Zia is lying with those claims how he has become bad for business? Considering how pissed off she is, why wouldn’t she take the chance to rub any suspicion right in his newest associate’s (aka Ryder’s) face especially since she can guess that it might seriously hurt Reyes, way more than some missing cargo? Perhaps she could skip that opportunity bacause she already considers him boxed-in well enough, but then again why would she deny herself the pleasure?

I mean that Reyes angered Zial with his behavior, which probably included him being incredibly secretive etc., which would’ve been a partial reason for them breaking up, maybe. It would have been this bad breakup that lead her to be so willing to go into terrible lengths on account of Reyes being bad for business. That is, the practical reason is Reyes hogging all the contracts, but if she didn't loathe him, she might be willing to do something less extreme than kill him in person.

But maybe they were very casual fuckbuddies, parted amicably enough, and she’s willing to murder him just as casually, could also be the case. However, she sounded very accusatory when she said that Reyes has no friends because of his greed and when she warned Ryder about how they’ll learn yet how bad Reyes is. (Which is: very, very deliciously bad.

)

On the other hand, she didn't expect Reyes beforehand so what was she to do about that when he showed up, no matter whether she actually paid attention to Ryder's Kadara activities or not? You could say that not paying enough attention to stuff is what gets her killed in the first place anyway but it seems too late for her to change her mind about Ryder's presence at the cave... the only course of action open for her to solve it would be attempting to attack Ryder and that would be one idiotic move with the much more certain enemy right in front of her...

Sloane should’ve started taking notice when Ryder says, voice full of significance, “all this time you’ve blah blah” and Reyes answers with a placating “You know who I really am”. Sloane should’ve taken a step back, kept an eye on them both while asking what Reyes wanted, and then considered the possibility that Ryder might interfere in the duel on Reyes’ behalf, since they apparently know each other well enough to exchange such words loaded with meaning.

To Sloane, it would’ve been more probable that Ryder would’ve interfered once Sloane got a hit on Reyes (highly probable had the duel gone according to rules). I certainly had my mouse finger readied in case it happened that Sloane would be about to emerge victorious and there would be an interrupt to kill her. I totally would have, too.

That alibi thing is just plain cute. Although there's still a chance that rumor might spread with them actually dating or not. One thing better than gossipping about the human Pathfinder and a local smuggler? Making inferences about the human Pathfinder and a local smuggler being lovers as well as involved in something underhanded

Poor Ryder, getting their golden girl/boy reputation ruined. :lol:

Though I guess they'd be used to that after Alec ruining the entire family's good name in Milky Way.

It's true though that his connection to Ryder may be the weakest spot in Reyes' smuggler cover. Like the battle for Meridian. Did he arrive there all alone, therefore making no significant difference in the fight, or did he ship out with a unit or several of the finest Collective fighters? (I know in game he just drops from a shuttle with Evfra or something, but that's just making everything work on a budget.

) I think we can assume the latter, which means people would question Reyes' presence among them, especially if Reyes is seen giving any sorts of commands to them. I guess he could just say that he wanted to be there in person and hitched a ride with the Collective, but it is a bit of a stretch to anyone who'd pose the question in the first place.

Edit: ah, one more point about the Reyes/Mr. Sniper guy ship. True, true, at least Reyes has someone dependable and highly functional to love while at least some of those cruel Ryders end up lonely and doubting, having to bear everything -including the far reaching idiocy of Liam Kosta- on their own. It would prove life's a bit fair after all.

But how about Reyes probably never dating his own operatives? A notable exception? :why:

Oooh no, now you’ve actually made me consider this surprisingly cute idea half seriously. :pinched:

Reyes would deserve someone trusty and loyal, and poor Ryder would be left with the atrocious Heleus dating pool.

Oooh oooh, is this a call for suggestions?

Are you done with all the other Obsidian games? New Vegas, PoE, Tyranny? Did you play the best game of this year, Prey, yet? I’ve just started to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution (as old as ME2 or so, but somehow it’s evaded me) and already feel like getting sucked in good.

Oh, I liked this. In those rare games you can play through without killing anyone I always have to go this route. I still carry some guns for the bots though.

Ah! Maybe you should play Prey. It has a very good no-kill path. Also you, BloodOfShiagur , if you enjoyed Dishonered, since they both were made by Arkane Studios. (It’s such a good game you guys.) I’ve been trying to be stealthy in Human Revolution, but I’ve managed to royally fuck up a few times, forcing me to kill, with much regret. Such is life for this particular protagonist, and as it feels fitting, I haven’t reloaded. :lol:

Heh, I had quite some of fun with the Human Revolution for a while, but then the protagonist did... ot better failed to do anything in one particular case and since then I got like "oh, whatever, die, fucking moron, I'm done with you" and couldn't force myself to finish it. The downsides of overly predefined protagonists, I guess. I pretty much prefer Dishonored. At least Corvo knows how to keep his trap shut and doesn't fall for :facepalm:

-inducing traps. Plus cool abilities.

Careful now, please. I’ve only just started, no spoilers. I find the PC’s super serious and eternally gruff demeanor funny, so I’m willing to forgive if he’s an idiot at some point. I have lots of idiot player characters! much like myself. Best part is that I can continue straight to Mankind Divided after this one (unless the Bad Thing mentioned by you ruins everything).

Ah, my poor Ryder isn’t going to be making any progress on finding Meridian, I’m afraid. This is what happens when Reyes isn’t given enough content. :smh:

Yeah, the world would be a much beter place with Fallout with Obsidian, although FO4 is decent. But as for the NV continuation, while it would be amazing, I'm not sure how they'd actually go about it. There are way too many ways the individual factions might end so many choices would have to get so levelled...

Same as Fallout 1 and 2. Pick an end state, go from there. It’s a tradition with this series and allows for the devs a clear and definite start for their world building. :smiles: We’ve seen the NCR grow from starting with teaching Shady Sands crop rotation and saving Tandi (rather than taking the choice of leaving her with Khans), then seen it grow into a republic in 2 taking over Vault City and New Reno. I like the loose continuation that’s going on there.

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 18, 2017 8:29:58 GMT

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Post by antmarch456 on Aug 18, 2017 8:29:58 GMT

Oh my god Reyes' butt...~~now if only he can just turn around and reveal his "gun"~~

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 18, 2017 9:49:37 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 1 more like this

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Post by Zitrus on Aug 18, 2017 9:49:37 GMT

I'm afraid there's no gun in the game

. The guys look like Ken dolls judging by the pictures from Nexusmods.

Has anyone watched this speculative MEA video that among other things purports to have "insights" into Reyes' background? Probably 90% of all gaming videos are insufferable and this one isn't an exception, so I wasn't able to endure it myself.

I made the sacrifice and watched it. The Reyes info is at the very end (of course). It's a tweet to Courtney Woods.

Some twitter user: "I'm working on a Spotify playlist for Reyes. If I had to give him a country of origin, where would that be?

"

Courtney: "Reyes would say Chile, but who knows if that's true!

"

It does, I should know^^. In Origin you have to select the game's properties and then advanced launch options. There you choose German and it will download the sound files. After that you can choose it in the game. You can also select different languages for voice and text.

Thanks! I’ll need to consider this. The possibility of subs in English regardless of spoken language widens the options considerably. Would be interesting to hear Reyes with a different voice, too.

I like both versions of him. Just ignore they speak formal most of the time (all "Sie" and "Ihr"). It's dropped for some romance and a few other dialogues (and then right back for friendship talks lol) but not for Reyes', not even for the dance. It's a bit annoying but it's been like this since the trilogy. I checked French and it's the same there.

Poor Ryder, getting their golden girl/boy reputation ruined. :lol:

Though I guess they'd be used to that after Alec ruining the entire family's good name in Milky Way.

It's true though that his connection to Ryder may be the weakest spot in Reyes' smuggler cover. Like the battle for Meridian. Did he arrive there all alone, therefore making no significant difference in the fight, or did he ship out with a unit or several of the finest Collective fighters? (I know in game he just drops from a shuttle with Evfra or something, but that's just making everything work on a budget.

) I think we can assume the latter, which means people would question Reyes' presence among them, especially if Reyes is seen giving any sorts of commands to them. I guess he could just say that he wanted to be there in person and hitched a ride with the Collective, but it is a bit of a stretch to anyone who'd pose the question in the first place.

Maybe it could hurt his smuggling business a bit when some of his customers think he's too cozy with the Nexus. Not that it would matter much.

He still has his cover that he helps the resistance. This can be the reason why he's on the ship with Evfra. They contacted each other. Reyes instructed his second-in-command to direct the Collective ships in his stead and nobody is the wiser.

Oh, I liked this. In those rare games you can play through without killing anyone I always have to go this route. I still carry some guns for the bots though.

Ah! Maybe you should play Prey. It has a very good no-kill path. Also you, BloodOfShiagur , if you enjoyed Dishonered, since they both were made by Arkane Studios. (It’s such a good game you guys.) I’ve been trying to be stealthy in Human Revolution, but I’ve managed to royally fuck up a few times, forcing me to kill, with much regret. Such is life for this particular protagonist, and as it feels fitting, I haven’t reloaded. :lol:

I probably should^^. I watched the first hour a while ago and there's also a trial now finally for PC.
I either reload or hide until they think it was just a rat lol.

Heh, I had quite some of fun with the Human Revolution for a while, but then the protagonist did... ot better failed to do anything in one particular case and since then I got like "oh, whatever, die, fucking moron, I'm done with you" and couldn't force myself to finish it. The downsides of overly predefined protagonists, I guess. I pretty much prefer Dishonored. At least Corvo knows how to keep his trap shut and doesn't fall for :facepalm:

-inducing traps. Plus cool abilities.

Careful now, please. I’ve only just started, no spoilers. I find the PC’s super serious and eternally gruff demeanor funny, so I’m willing to forgive if he’s an idiot at some point. I have lots of idiot player characters! much like myself. Best part is that I can continue straight to Mankind Divided after this one (unless the Bad Thing mentioned by you ruins everything).

Ah, my poor Ryder isn’t going to be making any progress on finding Meridian, I’m afraid. This is what happens when Reyes isn’t given enough content. :smh:

Corvo fell into something which was quite obvious would happen. I liked it that Daud talked a bit in his DLC. They are their own characters, they can voice their opinions. Also it's a bit silly if NPCs talk to you and you're just silent. Haven't played MD yet. They said they probably won't continue the series for a while which sucks.

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Lol ok, I misread you. Agreed on sugary romances, and the ones with bad drama (I extremely dislike the common BioWare trope where the PC moves on an emotional vulnerable widow/widower still fully in mourning). Reyes is the best romance I've yet seen (certain non-romance "romances" aside).

Hmm, I must admit it's still mostly a tie between him and Garrus for me (still a good result, though, considering I haven't even locked the romance yet), but the change of pace he brings even with the fact he's about the first LI outside the squad and crew thing is amazing and very much needed. I'm not actually sure how common that mourning trope really is with BW, though. Gave it some thought and came up with Thane and Carth only, followed by many many instances of various kinds of drama and angst.
Non-romance romances? Now I'm intrigued...

I mean that Reyes angered Zial with his behavior, which probably included him being incredibly secretive etc., which would’ve been a partial reason for them breaking up, maybe. It would have been this bad breakup that lead her to be so willing to go into terrible lengths on account of Reyes being bad for business. That is, the practical reason is Reyes hogging all the contracts, but if she didn't loathe him, she might be willing to do something less extreme than kill him in person.

But maybe they were very casual fuckbuddies, parted amicably enough, and she’s willing to murder him just as casually, could also be the case. However, she sounded very accusatory when she said that Reyes has no friends because of his greed and when she warned Ryder about how they’ll learn yet how bad Reyes is. (Which is: very, very deliciously bad.

)

Might have been either of these, sure. But I wonder whether the "drinking" together, as Reyes calls it before sweeping it under the rug doesn't suggest more of a casual relationship, as in they met and had shots and then did stuff till the morning, no strings attached. After all they drank together, they didn't date. Which of course might be me presupposing Reyes isn't just brushing it off in order not to look bad before Ryder. (After all, he does care quite a lot about how they might see him

However, Zia doesn't strike me as the type to inspire much confidence either. Not sure if she'd pass as someone Reyes would let close enough, careful as he is. (But perhaps he might have been just a bit too careful about her and cause the slight she perceives that way?) I wouldn't actually wonder if she were pissed off with his greed just because it interferes with her own, very succesfully on top of that. And there's always the possibility he screwed her over at some point, especially if they were just casual, he saw an opening and thought she'd never notice... I can't help but think something like that is what she'd take with so much virtiol more than just them breaking up/Reyes being a secretive lover.

Sloane should’ve started taking notice when Ryder says, voice full of significance, “all this time you’ve blah blah” and Reyes answers with a placating “You know who I really am”. Sloane should’ve taken a step back, kept an eye on them both while asking what Reyes wanted, and then considered the possibility that Ryder might interfere in the duel on Reyes’ behalf, since they apparently know each other well enough to exchange such words loaded with meaning.

To Sloane, it would’ve been more probable that Ryder would’ve interfered once Sloane got a hit on Reyes (highly probable had the duel gone according to rules). I certainly had my mouse finger readied in case it happened that Sloane would be about to emerge victorious and there would be an interrupt to kill her. I totally would have, too.

Yeah, but she might have done that and not act on it overtly in any way. What good would such notice or even acknowledging she hears the two of them being friendly loud and clear actually be at that point? It would just be a vocal recognition of the second potential threat, i.e Ryder. Nothing would be changed by that. She'd still be there in the cave in a less and less favorable position, with the Charlatan and less than certain ally she can't afford to turn away at the moment (regardless of how much set Ryder might actually already be, I bet Sloane didn't watch Ryder's Kadara activities so it would be taking a wild guess for her anyway).
She really doesn't have much room to maneuver in that cave even if she could be certain of Ryder- the two of them just could be as equally screwed as if Sloane would come alone. It's really getting lured into that cave that's her problem and the only significance of Ryder in the mess is that there's precious little (and with the turn of events constantly diminishing) chance they might actually help her cause. I guess the only way out at that point would be running away and that is not really an option Reyes would allow.. or Sloane would go with. She might very well realize that she's screwed for bringing along the Charlatan's buddy of all people, but again, what's she to do besides confronting Ryder directly about it or attempt to neutralize the threat they possibly pose, both of which would leave her even more exposed? Hmm, now I really wonder whether she takes Reyes' terms just because there is that small chance it might keep the fight just between the two of them and thus a bit more in her favor...
That's kinda how I expected the whole shit to go down.

It's actually good it took a whole different turn, at least there's something unexpected. But really, the most unexpected would be one of these two winning with no option to interfere for Ryder, so I really wasn't worried about either when the duel started....

Oooh no, now you’ve actually made me consider this surprisingly cute idea half seriously.  :pinched:

Reyes would deserve someone trusty and loyal, and poor Ryder would be left with the atrocious Heleus dating pool.

If only half seriously, there’s still hope

With the little detail that Reyes always deserves someone trusty and loyal, not just when his genius plans get mercilessly thwarted by random cruel people... As for Ryder, the dating pool is a fitting punishment indeed. Save for Vetra, but, ehh... there are way too many family-like feelings for that to work. :smh:

I'm afraid there's no gun in the game

. The guys look like Ken dolls judging by the pictures from Nexusmods.

Has anyone watched this speculative MEA video that among other things purports to have "insights" into Reyes' background? Probably 90% of all gaming videos are insufferable and this one isn't an exception, so I wasn't able to endure it myself.

I made the sacrifice and watched it. The Reyes info is at the very end (of course). It's a tweet to Courtney Woods.

Some twitter user: "I'm working on a Spotify playlist for Reyes. If I had to give him a country of origin, where would that be?

"

Courtney: "Reyes would say Chile, but who knows if that's true!

"

Oh, the sacrifices you make for the good of the thread are immense

But in all seriousness, no gun? So the majority of AI can't procreate??? Doesn't that bring the entire Gil dilemma down since he has no gun to begin with either?? Chaos and anarchy! :excited:

Poor Ryder, getting their golden girl/boy reputation ruined. :lol:

Though I guess they'd be used to that after Alec ruining the entire family's good name in Milky Way.

It's true though that his connection to Ryder may be the weakest spot in Reyes' smuggler cover. Like the battle for Meridian. Did he arrive there all alone, therefore making no significant difference in the fight, or did he ship out with a unit or several of the finest Collective fighters? (I know in game he just drops from a shuttle with Evfra or something, but that's just making everything work on a budget.

) I think we can assume the latter, which means people would question Reyes' presence among them, especially if Reyes is seen giving any sorts of commands to them. I guess he could just say that he wanted to be there in person and hitched a ride with the Collective, but it is a bit of a stretch to anyone who'd pose the question in the first place.

Maybe it could hurt his smuggling business a bit when some of his customers think he's too cozy with the Nexus. Not that it would matter much.

He still has his cover that he helps the resistance. This can be the reason why he's on the ship with Evfra. They contacted each other. Reyes instructed his second-in-command to direct the Collective ships in his stead and nobody is the wiser.

Yeah, the Ryder name is not one to keep the glory for long so they might as well date some smugglers and be done with it :lol:

Well, Reyes simply draws attention to himself with fooling around with the Nexus and people are a gossippy bunch. That knowledge might work either way, after all the nexus still has quite some supplies left and keeps growing, so Reyes might be looked upon as well connected and possibly very well supplied in a way... I think he will get fired from the Resistance either way post High-noon, though, as he has to go into hiding when he doesn't win the duel and might have way too much work to report to Evfra when he wins.... (I agree with orchid, his presence in Evfra's ship is probably just tactical NPC placing. Besides, if he gets seen with Evfra in the battle, he won't pass for his secret agent ever again)
But that cover question is actually a great one... while I wonder how the Nexus leadership excuses the presence of Sloane, Reyes simply has no business in that battle whatsoever. Perhas he comes off the record, bringing some Collective firepower (such as Mr. Sniper guy

) in silently and hoping to get lost in the crowd somehow? After all, the Meridian battle is quite a mess... before anyone realizes they should ask who he actually is, he could be long gone.

Careful now, please. I’ve only just started, no spoilers. I find the PC’s super serious and eternally gruff demeanor funny, so I’m willing to forgive if he’s an idiot at some point. I have lots of idiot player characters! much like myself. Best part is that I can continue straight to Mankind Divided after this one (unless the Bad Thing mentioned by you ruins everything).

Ah, my poor Ryder isn’t going to be making any progress on finding Meridian, I’m afraid. This is what happens when Reyes isn’t given enough content. :smh:

Same as Fallout 1 and 2. Pick an end state, go from there. It’s a tradition with this series and allows for the devs a clear and definite start for their world building.  :smiles: We’ve seen the NCR grow from starting with teaching Shady Sands crop rotation and saving Tandi (rather than taking the choice of leaving her with Khans), then seen it grow into a republic in 2 taking over Vault City and New Reno)

Don’t worry, I’m not saying any more, just voicing some additional displeasure in a bit. I RP an idiot most of my life so I actually like my PCs more on the clever side... or at least not an utterly idiotic side and let’s say I see this as the Unforgivable Big Bad, especially when you consider all that super professional unfailingly badass attitude the PC has. Bahh, terrible.

Zitrus Yeah, we as players can see what will happen with Corvo miles away. Corvo is most likely not a fool so perhaps he could suspect foul play too, but he doesn’t really know the day or the hour. Adam Witless Dick Jensen has no such excuse, he has all the intel and supposedly common sense to avoid it. He chooses not to. I’m fine with characters being themselves but it comes with the downside that if I disagree too grossly, my immersion and will to play as that character are killed from that point onward.

Ah, I didn’t know world states actually ever happened in Fallout, I only played the later ones. Probably for the better though, my dislike for NCR as an institution in NV is too intense to have to live with tha fact that this ineffective bloated monster lead by idiots is what my previous PCs helped create :why:

Huh, those posts just take longer and longer to make...

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Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread) Aug 18, 2017 19:49:16 GMT BloodOfShiagur, tehprincessj, and 2 more like this

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Post by Zitrus on Aug 18, 2017 19:49:16 GMT

It was not but this person clearly didn't read the character description where his Chilean accent is mentioned. It's still possible he was born somewhere else, like some colonized planet or the Citadel etc. but the parents are from Chile and so he sees this as his heritage. That said, until proven otherwise I imagine he's really from Chile.

Aug 18, 2017 15:08:06 GMT BloodOfShiagur said:

Lol ok, I misread you. Agreed on sugary romances, and the ones with bad drama (I extremely dislike the common BioWare trope where the PC moves on an emotional vulnerable widow/widower still fully in mourning). Reyes is the best romance I've yet seen (certain non-romance "romances" aside).

Hmm, I must admit it's still mostly a tie between him and Garrus for me (still a good result, though, considering I haven't even locked the romance yet), but the change of pace he brings even with the fact he's about the first LI outside the squad and crew thing is amazing and very much needed. I'm not actually sure how common that mourning trope really is with BW, though. Gave it some thought and came up with Thane and Carth only, followed by many many instances of various kinds of drama and angst.
Non-romance romances? Now I'm intrigued...

Cortez and Jaheira were mourning, too.

Might have been either of these, sure. But I wonder whether the "drinking" together, as Reyes calls it before sweeping it under the rug doesn't suggest more of a casual relationship, as in they met and had shots and then did stuff till the morning, no strings attached. After all they drank together, they didn't date. Which of course might be me presupposing Reyes isn't just brushing it off in order not to look bad before Ryder. (After all, he does care quite a lot about how they might see him

However, Zia doesn't strike me as the type to inspire much confidence either. Not sure if she'd pass as someone Reyes would let close enough, careful as he is. (But perhaps he might have been just a bit too careful about her and cause the slight she perceives that way?) I wouldn't actually wonder if she were pissed off with his greed just because it interferes with her own, very succesfully on top of that. And there's always the possibility he screwed her over at some point, especially if they were just casual, he saw an opening and thought she'd never notice... I can't help but think something like that is what she'd take with so much virtiol more than just them breaking up/Reyes being a secretive lover.

Yes. They had some kind of relationship since he writes his taste in women improved after he ended things with her. I think he didn't see much in her and thus kept his secrets. So maybe they slept together now and then. She wanted more but he didn't. They did some jobs together. She accuses him of being selfish, so as you say he screwed her over on a job and they split after that. She's been angry at him since then at this plus the rejection and when the good jobs begin to disappear she talks other disgruntled smugglers into helping her to get rid of him.

Oh, the sacrifices you make for the good of the thread are immense

But in all seriousness, no gun? So the majority of AI can't procreate??? Doesn't that bring the entire Gil dilemma down since he has no gun to begin with either?? Chaos and anarchy! :excited:

And I have the scars to show for it *sniff*... no. I had time to burn at work and it's just 6 minutes long so I listened to it in the background.

No gun. I finally tried this nude mod for fun and it's really Ken-doll-style. I don't recommend it

. Oh but don't worry, in truth they wear stealth shorts which camouflage their best parts. So it's all good

.

Yeah, the Ryder name is not one to keep the glory for long so they might as well date some smugglers and be done with it :lol:

Well, Reyes simply draws attention to himself with fooling around with the Nexus and people are a gossippy bunch. That knowledge might work either way, after all the nexus still has quite some supplies left and keeps growing, so Reyes might be looked upon as well connected and possibly very well supplied in a way... I think he will get fired from the Resistance either way post High-noon, though, as he has to go into hiding when he doesn't win the duel and might have way too much work to report to Evfra when he wins.... (I agree with orchid, his presence in Evfra's ship is probably just tactical NPC placing. Besides, if he gets seen with Evfra in the battle, he won't pass for his secret agent ever again)
But that cover question is actually a great one... while I wonder how the Nexus leadership excuses the presence of Sloane, Reyes simply has no business in that battle whatsoever. Perhas he comes off the record, bringing some Collective firepower (such as Mr. Sniper guy

) in silently and hoping to get lost in the crowd somehow? After all, the Meridian battle is quite a mess... before anyone realizes they should ask who he actually is, he could be long gone.

Sure, some can also see this as a positive thing getting on the Nexus' good side. And the rest doesn't care either way.

Ok, maybe his Resistance agent days are over if he's seen with Evfra although I think everyone is more concerned with winning the fight.
Yes, there are so many people in this battle, I don't see much of a problem with him being there. If asked they can explain Kadara sent fighters and pilots. He's just the one who flies Evfra and others because he's good at it and joins the fight on the ground later. Then he slips away after the victory broadcast.

Sloane, if you're allied doesn't need an explanation for being there, isn't that expected of an ally and she likes to do things herself. If Kadara is not resolved she still helps because she knows if the kett win it's game over (and because the game says so).

Zitrus Yeah, we as players can see what will happen with Corvo miles away. Corvo is most likely not a fool so perhaps he could suspect foul play too, but he doesn’t really know the day or the hour. Adam Witless Dick Jensen has no such excuse, he has all the intel and supposedly common sense to avoid it. He chooses not to. I’m fine with characters being themselves but it comes with the downside that if I disagree too grossly, my immersion and will to play as that character are killed from that point onward.

Corvo just has to use the heart on those fellas^^. Ah, I'm more relaxed in that matter. Something I found a bit unfortunate is that Adam sometimes seems to know less than the player because apparently he doesn't read all those emails we hack into (even if we have the password because the mini game is fun and gives xp).

Huh, those posts just take longer and longer to make...

The topics just multiply. :wizard:

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Reyes bruised my heart last week and I'm salty. :mellow:

after I finish my first PT, I'm going to reload to an old save and see what my Sara Ryder could have had. I don't twitter, but I'm going to do this silliness anyway. Reyes Vidal #theonethatgotaway

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Aug 18, 2017 15:08:06 GMT BloodOfShiagur said:

Lol ok, I misread you. Agreed on sugary romances, and the ones with bad drama (I extremely dislike the common BioWare trope where the PC moves on an emotional vulnerable widow/widower still fully in mourning). Reyes is the best romance I've yet seen (certain non-romance "romances" aside).

Hmm, I must admit it's still mostly a tie between him and Garrus for me (still a good result, though, considering I haven't even locked the romance yet), but the change of pace he brings even with the fact he's about the first LI outside the squad and crew thing is amazing and very much needed. I'm not actually sure how common that mourning trope really is with BW, though. Gave it some thought and came up with Thane and Carth only, followed by many many instances of various kinds of drama and angst.
Non-romance romances? Now I'm intrigued...

I mean that Reyes angered Zial with his behavior, which probably included him being incredibly secretive etc., which would’ve been a partial reason for them breaking up, maybe. It would have been this bad breakup that lead her to be so willing to go into terrible lengths on account of Reyes being bad for business. That is, the practical reason is Reyes hogging all the contracts, but if she didn't loathe him, she might be willing to do something less extreme than kill him in person.

But maybe they were very casual fuckbuddies, parted amicably enough, and she’s willing to murder him just as casually, could also be the case. However, she sounded very accusatory when she said that Reyes has no friends because of his greed and when she warned Ryder about how they’ll learn yet how bad Reyes is. (Which is: very, very deliciously bad.

)

Might have been either of these, sure. But I wonder whether the "drinking" together, as Reyes calls it before sweeping it under the rug doesn't suggest more of a casual relationship, as in they met and had shots and then did stuff till the morning, no strings attached. After all they drank together, they didn't date. Which of course might be me presupposing Reyes isn't just brushing it off in order not to look bad before Ryder. (After all, he does care quite a lot about how they might see him

However, Zia doesn't strike me as the type to inspire much confidence either. Not sure if she'd pass as someone Reyes would let close enough, careful as he is. (But perhaps he might have been just a bit too careful about her and cause the slight she perceives that way?) I wouldn't actually wonder if she were pissed off with his greed just because it interferes with her own, very succesfully on top of that. And there's always the possibility he screwed her over at some point, especially if they were just casual, he saw an opening and thought she'd never notice... I can't help but think something like that is what she'd take with so much virtiol more than just them breaking up/Reyes being a secretive lover.

Sloane should’ve started taking notice when Ryder says, voice full of significance, “all this time you’ve blah blah” and Reyes answers with a placating “You know who I really am”. Sloane should’ve taken a step back, kept an eye on them both while asking what Reyes wanted, and then considered the possibility that Ryder might interfere in the duel on Reyes’ behalf, since they apparently know each other well enough to exchange such words loaded with meaning.

To Sloane, it would’ve been more probable that Ryder would’ve interfered once Sloane got a hit on Reyes (highly probable had the duel gone according to rules). I certainly had my mouse finger readied in case it happened that Sloane would be about to emerge victorious and there would be an interrupt to kill her. I totally would have, too.

Yeah, but she might have done that and not act on it overtly in any way. What good would such notice or even acknowledging she hears the two of them being friendly loud and clear actually be at that point? It would just be a vocal recognition of the second potential threat, i.e Ryder. Nothing would be changed by that. She'd still be there in the cave in a less and less favorable position, with the Charlatan and less than certain ally she can't afford to turn away at the moment (regardless of how much set Ryder might actually already be, I bet Sloane didn't watch Ryder's Kadara activities so it would be taking a wild guess for her anyway).
She really doesn't have much room to maneuver in that cave even if she could be certain of Ryder- the two of them just could be as equally screwed as if Sloane would come alone. It's really getting lured into that cave that's her problem and the only significance of Ryder in the mess is that there's precious little (and with the turn of events constantly diminishing) chance they might actually help her cause. I guess the only way out at that point would be running away and that is not really an option Reyes would allow.. or Sloane would go with. She might very well realize that she's screwed for bringing along the Charlatan's buddy of all people, but again, what's she to do besides confronting Ryder directly about it or attempt to neutralize the threat they possibly pose, both of which would leave her even more exposed? Hmm, now I really wonder whether she takes Reyes' terms just because there is that small chance it might keep the fight just between the two of them and thus a bit more in her favor...
That's kinda how I expected the whole shit to go down.

It's actually good it took a whole different turn, at least there's something unexpected. But really, the most unexpected would be one of these two winning with no option to interfere for Ryder, so I really wasn't worried about either when the duel started....

Oooh no, now you’ve actually made me consider this surprisingly cute idea half seriously.  :pinched:

Reyes would deserve someone trusty and loyal, and poor Ryder would be left with the atrocious Heleus dating pool.

If only half seriously, there’s still hope

With the little detail that Reyes always deserves someone trusty and loyal, not just when his genius plans get mercilessly thwarted by random cruel people... As for Ryder, the dating pool is a fitting punishment indeed. Save for Vetra, but, ehh... there are way too many family-like feelings for that to work. :smh:

I'm afraid there's no gun in the game

. The guys look like Ken dolls judging by the pictures from Nexusmods.

I made the sacrifice and watched it. The Reyes info is at the very end (of course). It's a tweet to Courtney Woods.

Some twitter user: "I'm working on a Spotify playlist for Reyes. If I had to give him a country of origin, where would that be?

"

Courtney: "Reyes would say Chile, but who knows if that's true!

"

Oh, the sacrifices you make for the good of the thread are immense

But in all seriousness, no gun? So the majority of AI can't procreate??? Doesn't that bring the entire Gil dilemma down since he has no gun to begin with either?? Chaos and anarchy! :excited:

Maybe it could hurt his smuggling business a bit when some of his customers think he's too cozy with the Nexus. Not that it would matter much.

He still has his cover that he helps the resistance. This can be the reason why he's on the ship with Evfra. They contacted each other. Reyes instructed his second-in-command to direct the Collective ships in his stead and nobody is the wiser.

Yeah, the Ryder name is not one to keep the glory for long so they might as well date some smugglers and be done with it :lol:

Well, Reyes simply draws attention to himself with fooling around with the Nexus and people are a gossippy bunch. That knowledge might work either way, after all the nexus still has quite some supplies left and keeps growing, so Reyes might be looked upon as well connected and possibly very well supplied in a way... I think he will get fired from the Resistance either way post High-noon, though, as he has to go into hiding when he doesn't win the duel and might have way too much work to report to Evfra when he wins.... (I agree with orchid, his presence in Evfra's ship is probably just tactical NPC placing. Besides, if he gets seen with Evfra in the battle, he won't pass for his secret agent ever again)
But that cover question is actually a great one... while I wonder how the Nexus leadership excuses the presence of Sloane, Reyes simply has no business in that battle whatsoever. Perhas he comes off the record, bringing some Collective firepower (such as Mr. Sniper guy

) in silently and hoping to get lost in the crowd somehow? After all, the Meridian battle is quite a mess... before anyone realizes they should ask who he actually is, he could be long gone.

Careful now, please. I’ve only just started, no spoilers. I find the PC’s super serious and eternally gruff demeanor funny, so I’m willing to forgive if he’s an idiot at some point. I have lots of idiot player characters! much like myself. Best part is that I can continue straight to Mankind Divided after this one (unless the Bad Thing mentioned by you ruins everything).

Ah, my poor Ryder isn’t going to be making any progress on finding Meridian, I’m afraid. This is what happens when Reyes isn’t given enough content. :smh:

Same as Fallout 1 and 2. Pick an end state, go from there. It’s a tradition with this series and allows for the devs a clear and definite start for their world building.  :smiles: We’ve seen the NCR grow from starting with teaching Shady Sands crop rotation and saving Tandi (rather than taking the choice of leaving her with Khans), then seen it grow into a republic in 2 taking over Vault City and New Reno)