Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread)

Aww  . I like to read the long stuff though.

Right, he puts on his tough guy mask and gets over it in private.

Yes, I think because he doesn't say anything at all, he's probably not in the VO folder. If he would just grunt, they have things like the fiend in there lol. The problem is just how did they call him, those name are cryptic lots of times.

And taht’s at least one person who does, yay. Thanks. ^^ 

I wonder how broken up Reyes really is over the break-up. He genuinely cares about Ryder at that point, but I can't imagine him spending months brooding over it. More of a dull ache than full-on heart break perhaps.

Reyes has definitely his backside well what?? (I’m doing this on purpose now. )

My point was that even though there obviously will be malcontents, the Collective isn’t doing anything as bad as the Outcasts were (beating citizens on the streets or banishing them or excluding the angara), which means they’re going to be more popular in general. Sloane was sitting on a powder-keg, but Reyes isn’t going to have that problem, just more or less conventional issues more like what Aria would have in Omega (lesser gangs or smuggling rings trying to oust him, individuals gunning for his seat; nothing he can't handle especially when he has ties to the Nexus and Aya).

We’re not really given details on what Ryder and Reyes’/Sloane’s deal contains, apart from the Port leader allowing the outpost to be erected. I’d assume there’d be more cooperation, as well as slow steps towards bringing both sides together (to me it seems really foolish to have several separate small Milky Way colonies, like that one "sovereign" “city state” on Eos, this early into the colonization effort – but then again, neither Reyes nor Sloane will want to give up their sovereignty either). So I’d assume that the Nexus would stick with the milkies on Kadara over the angara. Obviously though there’d be attempts at hosting negotiations etc., unless it was just the Roekaar who nobody cares about getting killed. The Collective has a good image with the angara, recruits them and doesn’t oppress them, and Reyes has direct connection to Aya, so I expect that nothing short of a full-scale angaran civil war would lead to serious trouble on Kadara in this regard.

Also worth noting is that the guards in the former Outcast HQ are angara and they don’t wear Collective colors. I assume this means Keema has her own staff, even if small. It might be that the guards are actually Collective and merely dress like they weren’t, to give an appearance of there being unaffiliated force acting as a balance to the Collective. If they're legitimately Keema's own men, Reyes surely has fail-safes to make sure that they pose to real danger to him at all. (Or maybe the game just doesn’t have angaran Collective armor models and the devs just slapped whatever on those people.)

The shady person looting corpses has a name, you know. (It’s Ryder.)

I think all that you listed is a symptom of Sloane failing. One of Reyes’ stated issues is the astronomical death toll on Kadara due to the gang war. I’m almost certain that his policy of not solving problems by throwing people to starve outside the fortress city is going to lead into healthier society in the long run. Between the choice of either throwing poor people out to starve so that they get desperate or feeding them at soup kitchens and letting them stay in the Port, well, one of those has better IRL results that I could cite, but we’re starting to veer dangerously close to IRL issue debating, so I better not. Let's leave it at that!

And anyway the issue here is whether or not the local people will accept the Collective rule or not. If an angara is told that he can't join the Outcasts because he's wrong race, it doesn't matter whether he's just some random honest farmer from the wilds or a seasoned thief - it's going to make him dislike the Outcasts, adding one more to the growing ranks of people looking to see Sloane gone. Same goes for the banished people, the beaten up people... The result is what matters, and that is Sloane Kelly standing on increasingly thin ice, until it breaks - deservedly!

Ahh! If you insist on your fluffy unicorn strawman after two posts of me saying the opposite and explicitly correcting you, then okay, keep it. Enjoy yourself.

No, it's interesting actually. Illustrated trip reports on your Ryder's journey?

No. Sloane getting removed is the primary goal on Kadara even before Reyes makes his first appearance. To be swayed on something so incredibly important on a personal whim would make him utterly unfit to act as the Pathfinder and should result in him getting removed from that position. Such decisions should be made with the big picture in mind.

The most extreme thing  he potentially could do would be just leave the planet and never look back, but that’s not a sane option so he’d have to swallow his pride and conduct his Pathfinder duties regardless. If a break-up did happen, upon his eventual return he’d try to mend the damage created by him angrily dumping Reyes and attempt to get back together, provided Reyes would even tolerate that much drama, which he might not – but that’s all hypothetical, because everything went smoothly and cool, and the small issue of Reyes lying is indeed just a small issue.

“Something else” as in two other people with large egos having a go at each other.

Don’t know about battle of wits tho, didn’t notice anything of that nature in the game. Ryder barely has an ego and is so fearful of conflict or exerting any authority over their squaddies that they’re not going to win any mental battles anyway.

I haven’t seen any Jaal fans being mad about other people making fun of their favorite character. :|Why should they? I don’t mind the people that shit talk Reyes either. Doubt any even read this thread (my assumption is that only we + some occasional lurkers do, which is why I post so freely & carelessly~).

Purportedly damaged during the Scourge collision or the Uprising, I think, which is weird, since you’d expect any forgeries to have been made already before he even sent his original application in the Milky Way. Or maybe the already were altered and they just got messed up even more without anyone intentionally doing anything.

LOL at that Shadow Broker theory. That would explain how he came up with his three drinks rule.

Doesn’t Sloane say something to that effect? She tells Ryder to behave in a manner that tells me that she doesn’t want to ruin the party by having Ryder disarm her guard again (potential embarrassment), and even if she managed to have Ryder neatly escorted out, the guests would just make up their own gossipy version of the events.

It’s just the building above Kralla’s. Somebody posted screens ITT of Peebee just leaning against that rail with our happy couple embracing up the in the background. Reyes is private, but they had drunk quite some amount already… Besides it’s not like they did anything more than just kiss.

Yeah right. Well, as long as the Devil has all the good points on his side and is as charming as one Mr. Vidal, gladly.  Though Reyes would probably benefit from someone more coherent speaking for him.

Everyone? I thought it was just me.

The entire time Sloane has displayed nothing but bad qualities and hostile behavior. This is the final insult she gives Ryder before calling them to help her out once she’s out of other options. It’s extremely illustrative, and I like how this scene is set. Sloane is still being overconfident, hostile, showing her true colors of being a vowed enemy of the Initiative, and Kaetus starting to get a clue and trying to defuse the situation. It’s a preamble of what’s shortly going to pass, the height of Sloane’s hubris – here she’s relying on the Pathfinder, as the Kadara exiles eventually MUST rely on the Initiative if they want to survive in this alien galaxy, yet she can’t help but be hostile af.

Dehumanizing Ryder with insults isn’t Sloane puffing herself up, it’s just intended to disrespect the Pathfinder. It’s not the same as Aria’s dumb self-aggrandizing line, for example. It’s just a person repeatedly telling you that they hate you. Such behavior usually comes home to roost, as it did for Sloane in my PTs. Ryder has good reason to wish Sloane gone in that she’s a tyrant, a traitor, a direct threat to the colonization efforts – and also a fucking asshole to them personally. It’s perfectly suitable RP flavor on top of everything else to explain Ryder just glancing at her sinking, dying body coolly and walking away with Reyes all chill. 

Tl;dr: it suits my RP marvelously.

Anyway, I think you’d be careless to ignore the threat to burn the Outpost. I mean, that’s why you can’t build it before you’ve secured a promise that it won’t get destroyed. It also is a very direct disclosure of what Sloane WANTS to do to the Outpost, despite the truce you achieve after High Noon. She still wants it gone, she still hates the Initiative, and it’s frankly foolish to believe she’ll be fine and properly cooperative with the Nexus’ colonization efforts.

Yes, I think he's sad it didn't work out and would like to stay on friendly terms but he accepts it and moves on after a while. He knew rejection after the reveal was a possibility.



The thing with the armour is that apart from humans, asari and turians none have logos, neither Outcasts nor Collective. The two angara outside are Collective, it's in the subtitles and the editor has two angara (f and m) guarding the throne room (it's not 100% accurate as they guard the HQ and are both male with female vo). And the colours for both them and the one patrolling around are applied randomly. Go to Keema and walk back out, the colours will have changed with a high probability, I've just tested this. It seems the Collective colours don't exist for angaran armours in the game and this is why none of the guards inside sport them either, the three in Draullir wear blue, white, brown. The one next to Keema doesn't say anything so we can't be sure but I assume he's Collective as well. There are also the asari and the angara in front of Kralla's. Both are Collective pirates but you wouldn't recognize it because they wear civvies.
Another thing, there are also angara at Ditaeon. First I thought this would be the more visible guards Reyes mentions in his email but they are also there when Sloane is in charge. So who are they? Angara who want to live with the Nexus folk (or a bug)? They greet Ryder but there are no subtitles.


It actually says "Like many exiles, Reyes Vidal’s screening interviews and personal records were corrupted during the mutiny on the Nexus." It's not just his data that is incomplete. Planning to alter or destroy it upon arrival in Andromeda would have been too risky I think. What if he would have been unable to get access? Easier and safer to lie in the interviews and have doctored database entries from the start if this is what he did.


Pick professional. Sloane says it would only raise questions if Ryder were to leave. They've just arrived after all.

What happens in flycam stays in flycam. They just didn't alter the map.
How much did they drink before the scene starts? I think they've just been a few minutes on the roof, so probably not that much.


Zero percent. Reyes definitely told him to say that.


Very charming. So, did she accept the drink this time?


I found a mention of two other Collective agents in old screenshots. Crux tells the angaran recruit "Ready Taurus to make contact with Pictor. Usual meeting spot. Charlatan's orders are already encrypted and sent to her omni-tool." Now I'm not sure anymore if the others in Draullir ever have direct contact with him.

SAM gives his warning out loud (not in private mode) so I don't know why no one else in the party doesn't do anything either. They just stand there and let the chips fall where they may. Reminds me a bit of the Thane vs Leng fight on the Citadel except at least this time the PC can act if you want them to. Much rather be able to save Thane as Sloane though.

Oh alright, I thought you meant SAM blurting it out loud to the entire room. Yeah, I think the squad just waits until the Pathfinder decides upon a course. Might be interesting if upon choosing an impulsive party member like PB they would react spontaneously and alert Sloane no matter what, and then the option would be to either save Sloane or kill her proactively to protect Reyes. 

That's very cruel to Tann considering the salarian lifespan. That's like what, five years, ten left to him at that rate lol.

I don't know, I sort of imagine them having sat there for quite a while before that conversation took place, building up the atmosphere and such. You don't go about such topics right away. It could work without that if we saw them just getting there and taking a look at the Port but it's not what happened... Just the way i imagine things anyway.


Hehe, nope, it's a pretty set canon she doesn't. Guess that makes her (or is it me for making her refuse?) the monster... But Reyes just drinking both drinks without batting an eyelid is such a precious sight... + it's important because it's the first sign Ryder gets that this guy is worth some attention). In this final version she scoffs at him first, then sees the smile and likes what she sees, but still she finds it unbecoming to make any abrupt changes in her chosen course of action.

Hmm, encryption. How come it was all but forgotten in our discussion of Reyes' shady business methods? Such an obvious way to keep people from seeing what they're not meant to see.

Shifty angara coming out of nowhere, they're definitely a bug. But really, I always thought they simply moved in with the Initiative. It may be the second best after the Port itself, after all. Surely some would want in on that. Invisible guards ftw, though, can you imagine better security?

Saying SAM can't glitch at the most unlucky of moments? But tbh I don't even know what the squad are doing in that cave except that nobody wanted to change the mechanics for just that one cutscene. It always seemed to me this was supposed to be a private meeting, Sloane told Ryder to be her backup, not sure how she'd look at them bringing their whole gang along... And since they do nothing but stand there during the whole scene and don't even offer an opinion, I headcanon them away. They have no business there.

I must admit I like Umi better... she's probably my favorite non-squad NPC is the ME universe, tied with Aria, second to Reyes, I don't even know exactly why. I was even going to half-seriously suggest her as a squadmate in that thread that appeared here a few days ago. Kian's just sort of there... and besides Umi would make a better choice of a front, she has the people skills ( ) and the strategic position and maybe the notoriety, since she's explicitly mentioned in Kadara behavior manuals (aka the e-mail Vetra sends Ryder ... and Kian needs to watch over Reyes' room in Tartarus anyway

Oh, fuck. I've been exposed. The biggest revelation of this thread since it discovered Reyes was the Charlatan, yeah, sure I'm the dragon queen. Fear me, lol. _{(On the other hand, I think I'd rather stab myself in the eye than paw random people and pretend being brain dead, so maybe you're safe)}

Thinking about the Sloane issues, it might actually get pretty weird with the AI working openly with her. What will the angara say? They dislike the exiles... Brings me to that lovely rehabilitating Sloane idea you brought up... Yeah, too far gone, though one would still expect her to stop somewhere when the threats are minimized and survival is easier. But then again maybe there's no way to stop all that. Imagine a Sloane support group, trying to make her see beating people is bad

Ehm Who would have said the Collective is also better for diplomacy... though I wonder if the Resistance ever made deals with them, that would be interesting.

Don't know... depends on whether someone would find them since there'd be no Ryder to go to Kadara to find the Archon's ship... to find Raeka and possibly not have her die. If there was no Ryder would anyone even care to go to Kadara?

I can totally imagine Ryder skulking into Tartarus, insisting it's just about the outpost Sure the whole scene would be cute.

Wonder if Reyes would still be trying to negotiate with Ryder in that case, or whether he'd just want nothing to do with the damn moody brat

What an angaran way to put it, though the reality would be more like "Our children's digestive systems are melting!" Can't see that coming from Keema either way, guess she'd be more about some horribly charming and polite request. But I think Reyes would use her, she's the official ruler of Kadara so there would be no suspicion or anything surrounding it, unlike if Ryder just suddenly decided to fix the water because of some encrypted message from who knows where.

Any problems with Reyes being jealous of himself because his one nickname is better than the other? I'd say it's clear he likes his Charlatan persona more than the Shena one, judging from how smug he is when he admits being former... while the latter one is just "whatever, just call me Reyes"

Yeah, it's great. Maybe it would just suffice to have a more tentative way to agree to continue the relationship than just having Ryder throw themselves at him, which could also result in Reyes doing it, as a way of persuasion, perhaps? That way the lock could stay in the cave and no hot scenes would be lost.. or perhaps it might be the third option out of four, of which the fourth would be time to sulk, three option would look weird in the conversation anyway.

Lmao. Perhaps that's why he left the Nexus in the first place, and then formed the Collective the spy network to be able to get to that data and purge it once and for all. He's vain like that. I'm afraid this is very close to becoming my new canon till ME is resumed.

But I can't see any harm this could cause to the rooftop scene... there may be remembering some youthful foolishness, failure and vain hopes that moment, perhaps on both sides even, and there's nothing comical about that no matter what they are. They contribute to them ending up on that roof in no small way.

Yeah, I'm actually very surprised to say that too. But this particular insight came from a long series of posts rather than from one random forum post and it had the form of my not being sure where my own opinion is based in the first place, since it can't hold against any form of logic and resembles just a series of subjective judgments that has nothing to do with the matter itself. Horrible, I thought better of myself, really. Ever seen Black Sails? You'd have zero luck trying to convince me cpt. Flint isn't a first rate asshole that deserves to be skinned alive and thrown into boiling oil, because I know very well where that comes from and won't budge on that. This.. what the hell, me? All that for an obsession with keeping one's word?

That's definitely true. But since one is absolutely free to choose on that basis alone, no morality judgments are needed, really. I've never done any research about that, but I wonder if the odds wouldn't be more in her favor regardless of what se does if she didn't give Ryder all that hate-the-AI shit.

She can fantasize all she likes but that's all she'll ever get, unless someone's dumb enough to plop an outpost right in the middle of a penal colony warzone, just close enough to an enraged warlord's little fort. Going "oh you" with the proper dose of sarcasm is actually a great answer to her threat, since both know there will be no outpost to raze under these conditions... unless the Nexus is so witless it stands no chance at survival anyway. I've just stumbled across this conversation with Reyes when Ryder asks him about the outpost.... where Sloane is mentioned as the outpost hindering factor right next to whole Kadara being generally a bad place for living. So yeah, we all know who's the biggest offender

True... but the recruiter really comes very close to offering an alliance to Ryder. That's quite daring, unless he has an explicit permission to do so, as Zitrus guessed. Either Reyes is standing somewhere in the hearing range an observing the reaction or the recruiter is gunning for a promotion indeed.

Ditaeon is the Kadara outpost. I've happened to -off the record- kill a few Collective guys a while ago and they all had the the sign. And none of them was Angara, I think. Perhaps the angara got excluded from the gang war business because only one side has them, so it wasn't wort it to make any faction-specific variants?

Agreed. It would also keep her occupied with something closer to her than the Charlatan if she'd consider going on with her plotting again. And it's really strange the Collective is so silent about recruiting Angara, since that must boost their popularity as much as the soup kitchen. They are passing up quite an opportunity

Nah, it's more like a lucky break with the flycam. I'm inept at these things.

I love that expression too. Such a shame it's so easy to miss without the flycam. Here you go

i.imgur.com/RBD726g.jpg


And some Reyes striking a pose




And several more pics of Kadara




I was so looking forward to rotating the shit out of the roekaar scene.. and got terrified. Why the fuck does one of the best romance scenes have such crappy light? Really? BOOOO! This is the only angle that came out good



Yeah and one more thing I encountered, since we've had this Deus ex discussion. Eliza, huh...





Btw, MarilynRobert , that's a lot of animals

Picky would imply somebody knows what's in the glass and doesn't care for it. Or perhaps you meant picky in drinking buddies? (Btw how high are the changes there's whiskey in those glasses?)

Well, doing so he'd have Heleus pretty much covered... unless he can get the cthulhu on board too (but perhaps the cthulhu already works for the Collective ). And since there's always some angara that need help, there must be plenty of opportunities for the Collective to wriggle in on the business. Wonder who the intermediary would be, though, it would be one hell of a responsibility to make everything go smoothly, calling for some Mr. Sniper Guy level trusted operative... Now it occurred to me that Reyes might have a hard time keeping his distance, guess he'd have a field day dealing with Evfra himself even when he'd have to stay hidden. He owes him one for that nickname, after all

Charlatan's a title, though, not a code name. Maybe there's some difference in that. And in the work he does under those names. Whatever he actually did for the Resistance and whatever he wanted to achieve by working with them (he must have wanted the contact to them at least... perhaps for the future alliance?) couldn't have been as fun or important as making himself the crime lord of the mountain.

I suspected the Charlatan name just somehow got a life of its own when repeated long enough... though it would be interesting to know where it started and how it gained momentum (it's not the most respectable things to call someone unless you can imagine someone like Reyes behind it)... And since nobody in the Collective knows anything else about him so why not adopt it too... I can actually imagine Reyes starting to use along the way it in at least some of the orders. He hates code names but he surely loves a title of his own  Interesting question, that. Since he says he hired those first people to do stuff for him because he didn't want to risk being discovered, I guess it would all be easier if they didn't know him by name or at all, what if they got caught and talked? But then did these first attempts stick as operatives or did he find new, more trustworthy ones he revealed himself to? No longer a mystery, bah.  But as for the impostor, she replaced dead drop orders or something like that, didn't she? If those were made to contain directly the orders of the Charlatan no signatures would be needed.

 For this I see two options: either Reyes hacked SAM with the best pic of himself he had available (he can't have an official codex entry as the Charlatan so he can at least use it somewhere before he can put it in his Nexus files. He might even have the photo prepared in advance since he is so strangely well informed about SAM and his capabilities) or SAM put extra caution int it because he secretly digs him as much as Ryder does... or even way more. Just listen to him... "Perhaps MR. Vidal might know more" "Pathfinder, perhaps Mr. Vidal might have another job for you" "Consulting Mr. Vidal in this matter might prove beneficial, Pathfinder" "Pathfinder, I urge you to open your new e-mail from Mr. Vidal, it might contain.. er.. valuable information about your progress Reyes this, Reyes that. The damn bot is obsessed with the guy, not that anyone could blame him

Thanks to this I have a very good cartoonish image of that in my head now that will never go away. That would be such a beautiful scene to put post MEA credits or include in the bloopers section.
Fitting as in joining the Blue suns would have been better, or getting destroyed by dad's idiot research?

Hey, she never shot him (Besides the very first time when I took the interrupt out of pure shock without taking a proper look, still holding on to the OT way of handling interrupts, aka push the button and something cool and desirable will happen. Immediately after that I was like "nooo, stop shooting!! oh, good, plot armor." ) I specifically mentioned that guy because he was another major thing that made me reconsider the duel bs...  watching him, I realized despicable fictional shit looks way different than offing a rival (I still don't like it, mind you, but it's just business. Conducted with a bit much unnecessary show-off shit, but business nevertheless. Actually I recall at least three characters of mine capable of operating on the same asshole level). Yeah, the characters evolve... or  with less time and more pts they changes in details, and these details particularly fit Ryder... she's been out for personal knowledge, gain and glory first (trying to make her poor dad's wishes a reality, at best) the whole time, after all, guess all the girl scout thing was just an influence of the game. Un-girl scouted Ryder ftw, hell, the character she reiterates had a habit of shooting raiders in the face at close range while guarding her own and nothing but, I don't know where that got lost

Well, it wouldn't benefit him to just let the AI leave the deal. Reyes just laughing about Ryder storming off is a lovely idea, though. Fitting, too, even though the storming off could be done with maximum dignity. But how much younger can Ryder be? I'd say their age difference would be 10 years maximum... they're certainly less experienced in how survival business is made, though.

Hehe, true, she doesn't. She also doesn't abound with empathy or understanding for others' subjectivities, mostly expecting everyone to do what they find most profitable- trying to ensure that would be working with her.

Ah, I see. That's how it's gonna be Sloane the enraged warlord is a threat to the AI's Kadara well-being by her very presence and attitude. Anyone can see that since she's quite proud of it, and can very well guess what's going to happen if they piss her off by putting an outpost close to her borders (which, by her megalomaniac standards, in probably anywhere on the planet). She might make this situation even more apparent by presenting a verbal threat regarding the matter, but frankly, anyone who can put two and two together doesn't need her to vocalize the obvious. Sloane's presence is a threat to the outpost, sure. Sloane's words about her threat to the outpost are just words, addressing the possibility that the Pathfinder is blind and deaf enough to engage in such foolish endeavor. In other words, nobody thinks erecting the outpost is a bad idea because Sloane said so, but because Sloane's even there in the first place, doing what she does. We don't need her affirmation on that.

Well, it has been established she's a threat to galactic love and peace and now we see it. Makes Reyes look better, though.

I wasn’t suggesting they should make a show of it. Just something subtle like putting more angara in public view without necessarily saying anything, just as fits the ways of the Collective. Even in the soup kitchen the word just gets around on its own. Seems the entire organization is more or less built on word getting around.

Thanks

Reshade didn’t help at all, unless I’m missing something. I tried turning anything I found on and off and still the light was for some weird reason pointed right in the middle of their faces, which looked terrible and ruined my perfect screen with the two of them being flirty and Drack looming in the background, looking like "kids these days..."

Interesting. Did you succeed? I once encountered one of these on the internet. It tried to pass for a human, I tried to pass for a tree. Funny times.

in my first playthrough umi was one of my prime suspects for the charlatan

This thread needs fewer text walls and more Reyes pics.

Um, anyone have any?

Wow, can't take a joke?

If I had any screenshots to post, I would. MEA is not screenshot friendly for me so I don't take very many since it's a manual process.

I do find it ironic, and amusing, that this thread is 90% character analysis/speculation while the Jaal thread is all about the banging. That's probably why I like the Reyes romance better by a mile.

Carry on with the text walls.

Scary if you think about it. They can be anywhere, no crime goes unpunished, no gossip unheard. There may already be cloaked Collective members gathering all over Heleus But the snipers are also likely. It's for the best if nobody is allowed to even come close to the outpost....

They just happen to jump out of me everywhere this pt but none of them seem to be angara. I've never seen a Collective krogan, they're pobaly not subtle enough to be allowed into business Not sure about the salarians... that seems to have no explanation at all. Unless they all joined the Collective or went into shady business like that cigar Salarian in Tartarus instead, that is.

Well, probably not. Not like you could order anything else at Kralla's weird, you'd say they'd be better stocked.

Hm.. you think they actually paid him?

Yeah, that. I knew there was an explanation, just couldn't remember it was that detailed. Flawless information brokering as always, thanks Good question, too, right next to whether they had a death wish, a grudge, or got royally paid for such a fool's errand.
Wonder if there's a way to do that, though. He very likely has minimal number of dumb agents, so he'll have to be extra careful as he gets more powerful... such a thing attracts lots of leeches. I'm somehow guessing things will not be getting easier for him in the future.

... "two hours later I cheated on him.. err.. her.. whatever with a hanar waitress. I tried to get the marriage annulled but they called this Goodman lawyer I was still forced to pay aliments to their five kids" Then, there comes the scary part in MEA2- the uncertainly gendered Volus stowed themselves away in a cryo pod and followed him into Andromeda on a quest for merciless revenge because nobody gets away from the Volus.

there's lots of lurkers in the thread. convos are fascinating but i gave up trying to follow the ongoing ones a while ago. everyone is free to contribute anything else at any time