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Post by wright1978 on Dec 4, 2016 14:10:48 GMT
Found the briefing interesting. Only real thing i found odd is that the Nexus leadership is supposedly made up of 2 humans and a krogan. A less human centric leadership would have been better. No Turian, Salarian or Asari just seems unrealistic given their galactic clout. I don't think those three rapresent all the leaders on the Nexus. And the security leader will likely be a different one since the one in the official site left the station. The leadership we meet may very well be different but still doesn't make it any less odd imo that both the Director of colonial affairs & nexus security chief are both human originally unless there are separate directors of colonial affairs for other species or other equally powerful roles we're not briefed on with appointees from other species.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2016 14:11:59 GMT
I don't think those three rapresent all the leaders on the Nexus. And the security leader will likely be a different one since the one in the official site left the station. The leadership we meet may very well be different but still doesn't make it any less odd imo that both the Director of colonial affairs & nexus security chief are both human originally unless there are separate directors of colonial affairs for other species or other equally powerful roles we're not briefed on with appointees from other species. My guess is that they'll reveal more leaders in future briefings.
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 4, 2016 14:20:15 GMT
Found the briefing interesting. Only real thing i found odd is that the Nexus leadership is supposedly made up of 2 humans and a krogan. A less human centric leadership would have been better. No Turian, Salarian or Asari just seems unrealistic given their galactic clout. Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod."
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Post by wright1978 on Dec 4, 2016 14:25:19 GMT
Found the briefing interesting. Only real thing i found odd is that the Nexus leadership is supposedly made up of 2 humans and a krogan. A less human centric leadership would have been better. No Turian, Salarian or Asari just seems unrealistic given their galactic clout. Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." I think it's rather unrealistic to ignore galactic politics. Even if you ignore that it's awfully convenient that humans were all best qualified Hoping Elder King is right and more balance emerges after more briefings.
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 4, 2016 14:39:26 GMT
Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." I think it's rather unrealistic to ignore galactic politics. Even if you ignore that it's awfully convenient that humans were all best qualified Hoping Elder King is right and more balance emerges after more briefings. It IS a private venture. Maybe they didn't like the thought dying because of politic? And I never said that humans would take most jobs. We have only seen 3 jobs. and they was all female and 2 human and 1 krogan. Does that mean that all high ranking people will be female and human/krogan? Doubtful.
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Post by javeart on Dec 4, 2016 14:45:26 GMT
Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." I think it's rather unrealistic to ignore galactic politics. Even if you ignore that it's awfully convenient that humans were all best qualified Hoping Elder King is right and more balance emerges after more briefings. It's not a matter of species representation, but it's wierd to think that asari, salarian and turians wouldn't have tried to put some of their people in charge too. And considering how it ended it's hard to imagine that Sloane was in fact "the best choice" in more objetive terms It's true though that we may still have more leaders to meet
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 4, 2016 14:55:53 GMT
Found the briefing interesting. Only real thing i found odd is that the Nexus leadership is supposedly made up of 2 humans and a krogan. A less human centric leadership would have been better. No Turian, Salarian or Asari just seems unrealistic given their galactic clout. Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." Which makes the situation even less likely. Like being unable to find a better security chief amongst turians than an ex-alliance officer with more than questionable service history?
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Post by saberchic on Dec 4, 2016 14:57:56 GMT
I think it's rather unrealistic to ignore galactic politics. Even if you ignore that it's awfully convenient that humans were all best qualified Hoping Elder King is right and more balance emerges after more briefings. It's not a matter of species representation, but it's wierd to think that asari, salarian and turians wouldn't have tried to put some of their people in charge too. And considering how it ended it's hard to imagine that Sloane was in fact "the best choice" in more objetive terms It's true though that we may still have more leaders to meet Well, in the first briefing Jien Garson tells you she is the founder of it. It wouldn't surprise me to find more humans in charge than the other species. But I agree with the others who say that we've only seen 3 of the leaders so far and that we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 4, 2016 14:59:32 GMT
Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." Which makes the situation even less likely. Like being unable to find a better security chief amongst turians than an ex-alliance officer with more than questionable service history? Since we don't know all the facts, there is nothing that say that there is. Or maybe they really just hired first bastard that was stupid enough to apply? That may even explain why Dadryder is hired.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2016 15:01:49 GMT
Maybe they choosed the people on the basis of their ability and not "let's see, we need 1 asari, one turian, take 2 salarians and 1 humans. screw what they can do, as long as they can smile and nod." Which makes the situation even less likely. Like being unable to find a better security chief amongst turians than an ex-alliance officer with more than questionable service history? While I agree with your post, her record isn't that questionable. It was said it's nearly spotless.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 4, 2016 15:03:21 GMT
Which makes the situation even less likely. Like being unable to find a better security chief amongst turians than an ex-alliance officer with more than questionable service history? Since we don't know all the facts, there is nothing that say that there is. Or maybe they really just hired first bastard that was stupid enough to apply? If your security chief is one of the first to run off - there's clearly something wrong with your candidate selection. In my view at least. Except multiple conflicts with others. Naturally it's Bioware's vision of military, but in actual military you'll have to be quite "expressive" for something like that slip into your personall record. Like breaking someone's bones "expressive".
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 4, 2016 15:08:00 GMT
Since we don't know all the facts, there is nothing that say that there is. Or maybe they really just hired first bastard that was stupid enough to apply? If your security chief is one of the first to run off - there's clearly something wrong with your candidate selection. In my view at least. Well. We don't why and when she run of. She may have a good reason. It is all up in the air. What if you find out that the leaders of AI wanted to kill of people that didn't obey some questionably orders? Or she is just a good liar and convinced them that she is nice.
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Post by wright1978 on Dec 4, 2016 15:09:12 GMT
Since we don't know all the facts, there is nothing that say that there is. Or maybe they really just hired first bastard that was stupid enough to apply? If your security chief is one of the first to run off - there's clearly something wrong with your candidate selection. In my view at least. Except multiple conflicts with others. Naturally it's Bioware's vision of military, but in actual military you'll have to be quite "expressive" for something like that slip into your personall record. Like breaking someone's bones "expressive". Yeah multiple altercations with other officers is about the last thing you'd want in a security chief imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 15:18:33 GMT
They put a Krogan in charge of the maintenance...oh boy. This is going to be fun. I also dislike how two humans but no asari, salarians and turians. Turians make a much better pick for the security, salarians for engineering and asari for the logistics.
However nooope. Humanity gotta be special as always.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 4, 2016 15:19:12 GMT
If your security chief is one of the first to run off - there's clearly something wrong with your candidate selection. In my view at least. Well. We don't why and when she run of. She may have a good reason. It is all up in the air. It is. But her becoming some crime queen doesn't give her much credit in these reasons being noble. Besides if Nexus government were some space nazis we wouldn't be working for them (inb4 ME2).
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Post by saberchic on Dec 4, 2016 15:28:33 GMT
They put a Krogan in charge of the maintenance...oh boy. This is going to be fun. I also dislike how two humans but no asari, salarians and turians. Turians make a much better pick for the security, salarians for engineering and asari for the logistics. However nooope. Humanity gotta be special as always. We've only seen 3 people....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 15:39:13 GMT
They put a Krogan in charge of the maintenance...oh boy. This is going to be fun. I also dislike how two humans but no asari, salarians and turians. Turians make a much better pick for the security, salarians for engineering and asari for the logistics. However nooope. Humanity gotta be special as always. We've only seen 3 people.... Yep and 2 out of those 3 are humans.
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Post by saberchic on Dec 4, 2016 15:42:33 GMT
We've only seen 3 people.... Yep and 2 out of those 3 are humans. Indeed... on what sounds like a human founded project. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see more diversity in the leadership, but people getting their panties in a bunch over having a small peek at some of the leadership is ridiculous.
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Post by kumazan on Dec 4, 2016 15:45:11 GMT
We've only seen 3 people.... Yep and 2 out of those 3 are humans. We haven't heard/seen much of the non-human side of the Ai, and given how the marketing for ME:A, and especially the briefings, are designed, it makes sense. So while the humanity is special trope has always been there in ME, I'd wait before jumping the gun on this.
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Post by Thrombin on Dec 4, 2016 16:04:45 GMT
Yep and 2 out of those 3 are humans. Indeed... on what sounds like a human founded project. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see more diversity in the leadership, but people getting their panties in a bunch over having a small peek at some of the leadership is ridiculous. Exactly. A human conceived, funded, developed and is in charge of this project. It's more of a surprise that any of the leadership would be non-humans to be honest!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 16:18:19 GMT
Is that Dannah Feinglass voicing Avina like she did for the trilogy? She was also the VA for Gabriella Daniels Yep, guess so. This IMDB page for ME:A lists Dannah for Avina's voice. I'm glad she's back and it makes sense that the Avina VI would be used in the Nexus. Why re-invent the wheel?!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 17:15:40 GMT
It's not secret. Where are you getting that? How can it be secret while getting tens of thousands of people to sign up? Plus I have doubts it is privately funded. A venture this expensive isn't possible with just private investments. Particularly since Cerberus is busy elsewhere. I recall TIM telling Shepard that he had "other plans" too, apart from destroying the reapers, so I don't think Cerberus is a 1-trick pony and simply too 'busy elsewhere' and solely invested in defeating the reapers in the MW. The AI presents too great an opportunity for TIM to ignore and he would legitimately look at it as a Plan 'B' option for increasing human dominance among the MW races. The human society in Andromeda has obviously fallen back into infighting, criminal black-market gangs, and power struggles (of course it would!). I think the question is NOT IF Cerberus will be involved in the AI, but instead HOW is it that Cerberus is NOT tagging along with the Hyperion Ark? There are 20,000 humans in the Hyperion Ark from all walks of life. When there's human politicians and special corporate interests funding the project, there IS going to be power and money corruption. I hope Cerberus is not involved but given the deterioration we've now seen in human social order .... But this is a topic for another thread. No criticism meant. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 17:38:54 GMT
None of this is making sense lore-wise. 1st... Reapers. Why didn't they know about this massive project? Why didn't they sabotage it? Whole host of problems. Saren and Soveriegn certainly would have known about the AI. Saren was well traveled as a Spectre so he knew about other things going on in the MW; So would have the Shadow Broker. Saren would have shared info about the AI with Sovereign. Sovereign was interested in the stages of development for all intelligent species at the end of that 50K cycle. The development of an inter-galactic expedition would not go unnoticed by Sovereign, and it could have caused a tipping point for the reapers to decide to invade the MW and destroy all intelligent races before that happened. All of these events do coincide. JM2C.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 4, 2016 17:55:13 GMT
None of this is making sense lore-wise. 1st... Reapers. Why didn't they know about this massive project? Why didn't they sabotage it? Whole host of problems. Saren and Soveriegn certainly would have known about the AI. Saren was well traveled as a Spectre so he knew about other things going on in the MW; So would have the Shadow Broker. Saren would have shared info about the AI with Sovereign. Sovereign was interested in the stages of development for all intelligent species at the end of that 50K cycle. The development of a inter-galactic expedition would not go unnoticed by Sovereign, and it could have caused a tipping point for the reapers to decide to invade the MW and destroy all intelligent races before that happened. All of these events do coincide. JM2C. Judging by how they managed to hide in plain sight the most revolutionary FTL technology, since the discovery of Eezo, from everyone, I wouldn't question their hiding abilities.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 4, 2016 18:23:29 GMT
Also reapers came in from one direction, towards the south of the galaxy to Bahak system, if we left from say the west side, we likely would not have run into them, space is vast after all, chances of running even into a massive armada are very very low.And yes all of this is obvisouly massive retcons, there was no mention of an Ark being constructed around the moon in ME1 or ME2. I read on science site some time ago, that the space between planets in the galaxes is SO VAST, that even when Milky Way and Andromeda collide in the distant future, there is next to no chance, that any of the stars or planets of both galaxies will hit one another. So this displays how the chance of running into a cluster of Reapers or anywere near them while on way to Andromeda is basically 0.I thought about making a post along these lines, as I've done many times, but I just couldn't be bothered this time. It clearly isn't sticking with many, and the rest already understand the reality.
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