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Post by Thrombin on Mar 6, 2017 22:12:59 GMT
Back then the Geth were working for the Reapers (via Saren) so it may just be a Reaper sensor rather than a geth one. It makes more sense that Reapers would have had that technology, after all. What? No they were not. The Geth Consensus would SPEAK with Sovereign, but most programs did NOT join, and that was accepted by Sovereign. The Geth HERETICS joined Sovereign. That's why they LEFT Geth space. There was a SCHISM. This is unless you're speaking about only the Geth Heretics. Sure. Um. Maybe they were told by Sovereign and Saren to do something. For some reason. I didn't say all the Geth were working with the Reapers. I was just positing the possibility that it's a Reaper construct rather than a Geth construct. This briefing was written by the Andromeda Initiative. It is based on the knowledge of the time and, back then, nobody (except Shepard et al) knew about the Reapers. Who else would the Quarians attribute a construct built in the perseus veil to if not the Geth? It may even have been constructed by the heretics under guidance from Sovereign. I mean, as far as I know, the cycle's technology had not reached the point where they could reverse engineer a Mass Relay so combining three Relays into a long range sensor seems like something beyond what we would normally consider them capable of. I'm not saying it's not the Geth, I'm just saying that just because they think it's the Geth that made it doesn't mean it was. Most people think Sovereign was a Geth, after all! |
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Post by anacronian on Mar 6, 2017 22:19:31 GMT
 Here's a bit of information for anyone who still had their knickers in a twist about the long-range scanners and how the AI knew about the golden worlds. This just opens more questions than answers - So the Geth can now build Mass Relays? or manipulate 3 mass relays to serve their needs? also, a usual mass relay is rated (at best) in thousands of light-years not 2.5 million light-years. |
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Post by helios969 on Mar 6, 2017 22:20:05 GMT
I've really enjoyed the training vids, more than the trailers. It properly motivated me to open up Origin and preorder. I'm so ready to play this game.
And finally people can STOP making will there be Quarians in Andromeda threads. Although now I suppose it'll be are there romancable Quarians in Andromeda?
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Post by anacronian on Mar 6, 2017 22:23:34 GMT
Also, the "Nexus will need both water AND Ice.." - somebody actually got paid to write that  |
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Post by jastall on Mar 6, 2017 22:37:05 GMT
Well, we already know their readings are either wrong or lies. Not only have they not detected the Scourge around Habitat 7 (which to be fair could be a recent event), they state that Habitat One is well within the margin for an habitable desert planet.
Looking at the Exploration trailer, that planet (assuming it's the same one) has a surface temperature of at least 55c, 80 in places. That's not my definition of ''habitable''.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 6, 2017 22:46:46 GMT
Here's a bit of information for anyone who still had their knickers in a twist about the long-range scanners and how the AI knew about the golden worlds. This just opens more questions than answers - So the Geth can now build Mass Relays? or manipulate 3 mass relays to serve their needs? also, a usual mass relay is rated (at best) in thousands of light-years not 2.5 million light-years. The entire thing is forced, so the less they attempt to justify it ingame, the better |
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 6, 2017 22:48:35 GMT
Well, we already know their readings are either wrong or lies. Not only have they not detected the Scourge around Habitat 7 (which to be fair could be a recent event), they state that Habitat One is well within the margin for an habitable desert planet. Looking at the Exploration trailer, that planet (assuming it's the same one) has a surface temperature of at least 55c, 80 in places. That's not my definition of ''habitable''. I consider these videos to be the same propaganda that's being shown to the colonists prior to making the trip. That it turns out to be inaccurate may explain the rebellion. |
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Post by Dark King on Mar 6, 2017 22:56:20 GMT
I think there will be more planets than just the 7 habitats since there was also the snow planet rider is on in the trailers. Unless that's either just for one misssion or another biome on one of the planets we've already seen.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 6, 2017 23:01:19 GMT
What? No they were not. The Geth Consensus would SPEAK with Sovereign, but most programs did NOT join, and that was accepted by Sovereign. The Geth HERETICS joined Sovereign. That's why they LEFT Geth space. There was a SCHISM. This is unless you're speaking about only the Geth Heretics. Sure. Um. Maybe they were told by Sovereign and Saren to do something. For some reason. I didn't say all the Geth were working with the Reapers. I was just positing the possibility that it's a Reaper construct rather than a Geth construct. This briefing was written by the Andromeda Initiative. It is based on the knowledge of the time and, back then, nobody (except Shepard et al) knew about the Reapers. Who else would the Quarians attribute a construct built in the perseus veil to if not the Geth? It may even have been constructed by the heretics under guidance from Sovereign. I mean, as far as I know, the cycle's technology had not reached the point where they could reverse engineer a Mass Relay so combining three Relays into a long range sensor seems like something beyond what we would normally consider them capable of. I'm not saying it's not the Geth, I'm just saying that just because they think it's the Geth that made it doesn't mean it was. Most people think Sovereign was a Geth, after all! So its another Reaper trap. "Noooo, I'm not saying that!" Yep. Its a Reaper trap. Reapers ahoy. |
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 6, 2017 23:01:52 GMT
Also, the "Nexus will need both water AND Ice.." - somebody actually got paid to write that Omnitools ARE tools. |
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Post by armass81 on Mar 6, 2017 23:03:13 GMT
Also, the "Nexus will need both water AND Ice.." - somebody actually got paid to write that I agree that is so goddamn stupid, and from a "science" officer too. Who the hell wrote this? Also Helius or Heleus? Someone was not having their brain on that day. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 23:05:48 GMT
I think there will be more planets than just the 7 habitats since there was also the snow planet rider is on in the trailers. Unless that's either just for one misssion or another biome on one of the planets we've already seen. Maybe something unlocking in the endgame, like an Ilos, or Rakata Prime. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2017 23:14:11 GMT
SofaJockey So where we are supposed to discuss this? Two other threads about it were already moved into Spoiler section. The moderators had a chat about it. We've decided to move the Briefings thread to the Spoiler forum because they have been getting increasingly detailed. Yes, they count as promotional content (so did the IGN 13 minute intro to the game) but on balance, they are too hot for the 'General Discussion' sub-forum. Thanks for triggering that discussion  Consequently, it also makes sense to merge the two running threads together. |
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Post by jastall on Mar 6, 2017 23:15:24 GMT
Well, we already know their readings are either wrong or lies. Not only have they not detected the Scourge around Habitat 7 (which to be fair could be a recent event), they state that Habitat One is well within the margin for an habitable desert planet. Looking at the Exploration trailer, that planet (assuming it's the same one) has a surface temperature of at least 55c, 80 in places. That's not my definition of ''habitable''. I consider these videos to be the same propaganda that's being shown to the colonists prior to making the trip. That it turns out to be inaccurate may explain the rebellion. I think that's exactly what happened. Either because of insufficient data, incompetence and/or a hidden motive, the Initiative has made promises that were not upheld at all once in Andromeda. The ''Golden Worlds'' are nothing to write home about (or just straight-up deadly), the great new discoveries ended only in disappointment, there's trigger-happy janitor robots, deadly wildlife and angry aliens everywhere, and the lack of preparedness of the leadership has been laid bare. So the unity of the early days has broken down and everyone's now looking up for themselves. Sounds like a job for a fledgeling RPG protagonist in search of adventure, firefights, XP and banging to me! |
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Post by armass81 on Mar 6, 2017 23:40:28 GMT
What? No they were not. The Geth Consensus would SPEAK with Sovereign, but most programs did NOT join, and that was accepted by Sovereign. The Geth HERETICS joined Sovereign. That's why they LEFT Geth space. There was a SCHISM. This is unless you're speaking about only the Geth Heretics. Sure. Um. Maybe they were told by Sovereign and Saren to do something. For some reason. I didn't say all the Geth were working with the Reapers. I was just positing the possibility that it's a Reaper construct rather than a Geth construct. This briefing was written by the Andromeda Initiative. It is based on the knowledge of the time and, back then, nobody (except Shepard et al) knew about the Reapers. Who else would the Quarians attribute a construct built in the perseus veil to if not the Geth? It may even have been constructed by the heretics under guidance from Sovereign. I mean, as far as I know, the cycle's technology had not reached the point where they could reverse engineer a Mass Relay so combining three Relays into a long range sensor seems like something beyond what we would normally consider them capable of. I'm not saying it's not the Geth, I'm just saying that just because they think it's the Geth that made it doesn't mean it was. Most people think Sovereign was a Geth, after all! Just a small theory: Maybe the reapers watch the space between the galaxies so they ensure no one comes to the MW, or goes out of it. It would explain why we also see no signs of extra galactic visitors in our galaxy, they were intercepted by the reapers. Ofc by the time Ai left the reapers were already about to enter our galaxy, so i guess AI slipped by at the right time. Irony here is also that we found a way out using their tech, again. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 23:50:21 GMT
Well i'm from London, and Liam's accent doesn't sound like any cockney i've ever heard. I have a feeling he's gonna get right on my nerves. I don't think it's intended to be cockney; it sounds nothing like it. ... though accents in game voiceovers are usually just faked out, rather than spoken by natives. The worst offender is the English voiceovers in the Assassin's Creed series, where they imitate Italian accents. They recently switched to doing everything in British accents; but then, they're still employing North Americans to do the voices. |
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Post by maxon on Mar 7, 2017 0:33:57 GMT
Coincidence that the blurb about first contact appears next to a picture of naked humans? I think not.  That is a graphic of the plate on the Pioneer spacecraft. I hope there's still alot of smaller planets we can land on. Mac Walters said a handful and seven sounds like a handful to me. Re: updating of the viewing of the briefings - I think you have to be logged in to the site for it to recognise you've watched it. |
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Post by narcoticbiotic on Mar 7, 2017 0:37:16 GMT
Well i'm from London, and Liam's accent doesn't sound like any cockney i've ever heard. I have a feeling he's gonna get right on my nerves. I don't think it's intended to be cockney; it sounds nothing like it. ... though accents in game voiceovers are usually just faked out, rather than spoken by natives. The worst offender is the English voiceovers in the Assassin's Creed series, where they imitate Italian accents. They recently switched to doing everything in British accents; but then, they're still employing North Americans to do the voices. the voice actor (Gary Carr) is indeed from London though; friends from the UK have been telling me that Liam's sounds like an East London/Essex accent, but somehow it also sounds a little Australian. I imagine that accents would evolve in a future where we can visit almost any planet and communicate with various species, but Bioware wouldn't put that much thought into their characters' accents  |
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Post by Sifr on Mar 7, 2017 0:42:09 GMT
I don't think it's intended to be cockney; it sounds nothing like it. ... though accents in game voiceovers are usually just faked out, rather than spoken by natives. The worst offender is the English voiceovers in the Assassin's Creed series, where they imitate Italian accents. They recently switched to doing everything in British accents; but then, they're still employing North Americans to do the voices. They did hire a lot of English actors to voice the primary characters in Syndicate though. |
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Post by azarhal on Mar 7, 2017 1:02:47 GMT
Well, we already know their readings are either wrong or lies. Not only have they not detected the Scourge around Habitat 7 (which to be fair could be a recent event), they state that Habitat One is well within the margin for an habitable desert planet. Looking at the Exploration trailer, that planet (assuming it's the same one) has a surface temperature of at least 55c, 80 in places. That's not my definition of ''habitable''. The planet in the exploration trailer is Eladeen, I don't think it is Habitat 1, not enough rocks around. Habitat 1 was shown in the very first trailer for the game (too rocky to be Eladeen) Habitat 2 go dehydrated a bit... (this is most probably Eladeen, because this image is the Krogan settlement on Eladeen and the batch of screen it was in showed Habitat 2 on all the others). Habitat 3 has concept arts showing buildings (unless it's a different jungle planet). Angara homeworld? Habitat 4 could be going through an ice age. Also this. (although this suggest frozen world might be a moon?) Habitat 5 this place? Habitat 6 not much of an ocean anymore. It is Kadara. Habitat 7 has the Scourge, but outside of that it doesn't seem to have change much. Well minus the floating rocks... |
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Post by Sifr on Mar 7, 2017 1:05:51 GMT
Makes one wonder what the Pioneer 10 and 11 team were thinking, giving extraterrestrials a route map, back to us...   They might be stumped because one of the pulsar frequencies is slightly inaccurate (since it wasn't precisely known at the time) Although that's why they included over a dozen points of reference to make it easier for anyone to recognise and triangulate our system. So... if we're invaded, everyone can blame Carl Sagan. |
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Mar 7, 2017 1:13:55 GMT
Coincidence that the blurb about first contact appears next to a picture of naked humans? I think not. That is a graphic of the plate on the Pioneer spacecraft. I hope there's still alot of smaller planets we can land on. Mac Walters said a handful and seven sounds like a handful to me. Re: updating of the viewing of the briefings - I think you have to be logged in to the site for it to recognise you've watched it. I am well aware of what it is. Should I have explained its origins while making my silly joke, so that people on the internet wouldn't assume I was ignorant? |
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Post by maxon on Mar 7, 2017 1:15:12 GMT
I am well aware of what it is. Should I have explained its origins while making my silly joke, so that people on the internet wouldn't assume I was ignorant? Probably |
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Post by lastpawn on Mar 7, 2017 4:46:45 GMT
If we have to include quarians to please the (loudest) fans, this at least gives a good reason for it.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 7, 2017 5:24:22 GMT
Makes one wonder what the Pioneer 10 and 11 team were thinking, giving extraterrestrials a route map, back to us... They might be stumped because one of the pulsar frequencies is slightly inaccurate (since it wasn't precisely known at the time) Although that's why they included over a dozen points of reference to make it easier for anyone to recognise and triangulate our system. So... if we're invaded, everyone can blame Carl Sagan. There are also only 8 planets now, so that could be doubley confusing to them. |
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