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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 7, 2016 16:08:58 GMT
I only learned the term 'proculsexual' this month  Seems to describe a significant contingent on BSN  How was the comment I read about that? "It's not a sexual orientation, it's just bad luck."? So if I just add an obsession for my waifu (or husbando) to my real-life orientation, does that make me a 'demi-proculsexual'?  (sorry, it's been a long day ) |
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 16:11:07 GMT
How was the comment I read about that? "It's not a sexual orientation, it's just bad luck."? So if I just add an obsession for my waifu (or husbando) to my real-life orientation, does that make me a 'demi-proculsexual'? (sorry, it's been a long day )I think it just makes you plain, old human... horrible, I know. |
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Post by fialka on Dec 7, 2016 16:31:26 GMT
The "catch" might be, that the actual romances are much more subtle and integrated into the overall story of Ryders crew/journey. Remember, Mac also said that many of those relationships might go no further then a Garrus like "bromance". Without knowing exactly how to react to any given character at any given time, it might very well be possible to never get with the character you fancy the most... that happens when you take out the predictable formulas. One example for that might be Jack in ME2. You could sleep with her pretty early, but it actually lead you to a relationship path with her that went nowhere, because she viewed you as just another person in her live that "used" her. Now imagine all relationships being like that, only even more interwoven with the main story and each other, and I think we have an inkling of where BW is going... Even if I can acknowledge that variations like the one we got with Jack in ME2 are always a nice touch, I have to say that I'm not really a fan, I'm sure that if there's a way to ruin the romance with the carachtter I like, I'm going to ruin it fast  If you get an alternative path and don't just get blocked out of content it could be interesting, though... And, anyway, I settle for finding a character I really like as LI, I don't mind having to metagame it all I think the problem with Jack is we know we're playing a game, and usually if you forgo that flirt option or that conversation thread, you lock yourself out. So if the opportunity to sleep with a character (or click on that heart icon) comes up, of course you're going to take it for meta-gaming reasons if you're set on that romance. Even if it you'd rather wait. So while on the one hand, I like the idea that coming on too strong too soon could actually have the consequence of turning someone off, that's just not the way in-game romance mechanics typically work. So when they suddenly do that with just one character, I feel like it just ends up annoying people. If they are in fact doing away with that formula in favor of something more organic, it could make for a really cool experience. Or a frustrating one, where I'm reading game guides to figure exactly which dialogue option I'm supposed to choose when in order to make that romance actually happen. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 17:31:44 GMT
Even if I can acknowledge that variations like the one we got with Jack in ME2 are always a nice touch, I have to say that I'm not really a fan, I'm sure that if there's a way to ruin the romance with the carachtter I like, I'm going to ruin it fast If you get an alternative path and don't just get blocked out of content it could be interesting, though... And, anyway, I settle for finding a character I really like as LI, I don't mind having to metagame it all I think the problem with Jack is we know we're playing a game, and usually if you forgo that flirt option or that conversation thread, you lock yourself out. So if the opportunity to sleep with a character (or click on that heart icon) comes up, of course you're going to take it for meta-gaming reasons if you're set on that romance. Even if it you'd rather wait. So while on the one hand, I like the idea that coming on too strong too soon could actually have the consequence of turning someone off, that's just not the way in-game romance mechanics typically work. So when they suddenly do that with just one character, I feel like it just ends up annoying people. If they are in fact doing away with that formula in favor of something more organic, it could make for a really cool experience. Or a frustrating one, where I'm reading game guides to figure exactly which dialogue option I'm supposed to choose when in order to make that romance actually happen. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. That's a possibility... personally, I hope that it deepens the RP experience. I mean, sure, there always will be a "critical path" to any desired outcome, no matter how complicated the system might be, but how much better would it be to see the relationships to your crew blossom according to your own, natural reactions? The past formulaic nature of most BW games made it almost impossible to NOT drift into "meta view", forgoing your own impulses in favor to an outcome you knew would follow. |
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Post by peebee on Dec 7, 2016 23:48:03 GMT
Hmm, I think that: Cora - will be a straight female option for BroRyder. Liam - will be the straight option for SisRyder. Pee Bee - well Asari are pretty much all pansexual right? I think she will be an option for both SisRyder and BroRyder, if she isn't I can see hell being raised! Vetra - Hmm... Hard to say but I think she will be an option for SisRyder because, of course this is just what I think, I'm not sure, but I guess she wouldn't be very popular with the boys, being a bird reptile and all, I think they would prefer someone more human femalish like? And Garrus and Thane were very popular with the girls. Of course, guys go ahead and tell me wrong, this is just my perspective but I can be wrong  Drack - I don't think so. Jian - even if she's alive or whatever I don't think she will be an option. Salarian Pilot - Maybe? But as OP said, given Salarian culture dunno how'd work out. Also, options that are from Andromeda. A Kett? Maybe some of those different aliens we saw in the gameplay trailer? And about the romance format, I'm hoping it will be more immersive, with maybe more mentions of it outside of the relationship itself... And it would be cool to have some characters showing interest first (kind of how Liara does but better). |
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Post by readher on Dec 7, 2016 23:58:04 GMT
Hmm, I think that: Cora - will be a straight female option for BroRyder. Liam - will be the straight option for SisRyder. Pee Bee - well Asari are pretty much all pansexual right? I think she will be an option for both SisRyder and BroRyder, if she isn't I can see hell being raised! Vetra - Hmm... Hard to say but I think she will be an option for SisRyder because, of course this is just what I think, I'm not sure, but I guess she wouldn't be very popular with the boys, being a bird reptile and all, I think they would prefer someone more human femalish like? And Garrus and Thane were very popular with the girls. Of course, guys go ahead and tell me wrong, this is just my perspective but I can be wrong Drack - I don't think so. Jian - even if she's alive or whatever I don't think she will be an option. Salarian Pilot - Maybe? But as OP said, given Salarian culture dunno how'd work out. Also, options that are from Andromeda. A Kett? Maybe some of those different aliens we saw in the gameplay trailer? And about the romance format, I'm hoping it will be more immersive, with maybe more mentions of it outside of the relationship itself... And it would be cool to have the some characters showing interest first (kind of how Liara does but better). If we only take people we know about into consideration, then I'd say your assumptions are spot on, except for Jien. If she doesn't end up dying then I think she'll be an option (my bet is on her being bi). Dunno why, just got a feeling. I believe she's here in the trailer: Since it's confirmed that it isn't Sara and Cora wears different armor, it's fairly safe to assume it's her. With that in mind, while their position might be a bit overinterpreted by me, but even given circumstances (something definitely not good happening) it seems a bit intimate? She's kinda leaning on Ryder and all that. Might be just me looking too much into it, but that's how I see it. |
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Post by peebee on Dec 8, 2016 0:22:26 GMT
Hmm, I think that: Cora - will be a straight female option for BroRyder. Liam - will be the straight option for SisRyder. Pee Bee - well Asari are pretty much all pansexual right? I think she will be an option for both SisRyder and BroRyder, if she isn't I can see hell being raised! Vetra - Hmm... Hard to say but I think she will be an option for SisRyder because, of course this is just what I think, I'm not sure, but I guess she wouldn't be very popular with the boys, being a bird reptile and all, I think they would prefer someone more human femalish like? And Garrus and Thane were very popular with the girls. Of course, guys go ahead and tell me wrong, this is just my perspective but I can be wrong Drack - I don't think so. Jian - even if she's alive or whatever I don't think she will be an option. Salarian Pilot - Maybe? But as OP said, given Salarian culture dunno how'd work out. Also, options that are from Andromeda. A Kett? Maybe some of those different aliens we saw in the gameplay trailer? And about the romance format, I'm hoping it will be more immersive, with maybe more mentions of it outside of the relationship itself... And it would be cool to have the some characters showing interest first (kind of how Liara does but better). If we only take people we know about into consideration, then I'd say your assumptions are spot on, except for Jien. If she doesn't end up dying then I think she'll be an option (my bet is on her being bi). Dunno why, just got a feeling. I believe she's here in the trailer: Since it's confirmed that it isn't Sara and Cora wears different armor, it's fairly safe to assume it's her. With that in mind, while their position might be a bit overinterpreted by me, but even given circumstances (something definitely not good happening) it seems a bit intimate? She's kinda leaning on Ryder and all that. Might be just me looking too much into it, but that's how I see it. Hmm but haven't they said none of those are Ryder? I don't know who the man is, and I think that's right upon arrival so they look like they're in a lot of trouble, maybe she fell or something, if it is indeed Jien. If she's a love interest that could be interesting too... Older more experienced commander of everything etc etc falls in love with a young man (I'd bet she'd be a love interest for BroRyder then) |
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Post by readher on Dec 8, 2016 0:30:44 GMT
If we only take people we know about into consideration, then I'd say your assumptions are spot on, except for Jien. If she doesn't end up dying then I think she'll be an option (my bet is on her being bi). Dunno why, just got a feeling. I believe she's here in the trailer: Since it's confirmed that it isn't Sara and Cora wears different armor, it's fairly safe to assume it's her. With that in mind, while their position might be a bit overinterpreted by me, but even given circumstances (something definitely not good happening) it seems a bit intimate? She's kinda leaning on Ryder and all that. Might be just me looking too much into it, but that's how I see it. Hmm but haven't they said none of those are Ryder? I don't know who the man is, and I think that's right upon arrival so they look like they're in a lot of trouble, maybe she fell or something, if it is indeed Jien. If she's a love interest that could be interesting too... Older more experienced commander of everything etc etc falls in love with a young man (I'd bet she'd be a love interest for BroRyder then) Gamble said that it isn't Scott with Sara. Seeing as that trailer featured Scott only and the man's armor is the one Scott wears it's logical to assume it's him. The woman's armor is also the one Jien wears, you can see it in Initiative's videos. And I think she'd be bi. Cora will almost certainly be straight and I don't think they wouldn't give any human female romance for Sara, she's a good candidate for that spot. I'll be happy either way. More options is always better, so long as they're attractive and not bland as hell. Considering her importance though, there's great potential for her personality, so I'm confident on that front. Her looks on the other hand... I discussed my concerns on that in two other threads extensively already. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2016 0:35:15 GMT
If we only take people we know about into consideration, then I'd say your assumptions are spot on, except for Jien. If she doesn't end up dying then I think she'll be an option (my bet is on her being bi). Dunno why, just got a feeling. I believe she's here in the trailer: Since it's confirmed that it isn't Sara and Cora wears different armor, it's fairly safe to assume it's her. With that in mind, while their position might be a bit overinterpreted by me, but even given circumstances (something definitely not good happening) it seems a bit intimate? She's kinda leaning on Ryder and all that. Might be just me looking too much into it, but that's how I see it. That's not Jien Garson. The armor while similar is not the same as hers, for example the shoulders are different. Also that place looks like Habitat 7 that we crash on in the beginning of the game, so it can't be Jien because she isn't travelling with us. We are going to Andromeda aboard Hyperion, while she is going to Andromeda on the Nexus. |
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Post by peebee on Dec 8, 2016 0:36:17 GMT
Hmm but haven't they said none of those are Ryder? I don't know who the man is, and I think that's right upon arrival so they look like they're in a lot of trouble, maybe she fell or something, if it is indeed Jien. If she's a love interest that could be interesting too... Older more experienced commander of everything etc etc falls in love with a young man (I'd bet she'd be a love interest for BroRyder then) Gamble said that it isn't Scott with Sara. Seeing as that trailer featured Scott only and the man's armor is the one Scott wears it's logical to assume it's him. The woman's armor is also the one Jien wears, you can see it in Initiative's videos. And I think she'd be bi. Cora will almost certainly be straight and I don't think they wouldn't give any human female romance for Sara, she's a good candidate for that spot. I'll be happy either way. More options is always better, so long as they're attractive and not bland as hell. Considering her importance though, there's great potential for her personality, so I'm confident on that front. Her looks on the other hand... I discussed my concerns on that in two other threads extensively already. Is it me or both of them have buzz cuts? That'd be a custom Ryder then? Or when they put the helmet on the hair just looks like that? Also his face looks different to me. And well yeah she could be bi as well, I can see it going either way. |
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Post by readher on Dec 8, 2016 0:38:32 GMT
Gamble said that it isn't Scott with Sara. Seeing as that trailer featured Scott only and the man's armor is the one Scott wears it's logical to assume it's him. The woman's armor is also the one Jien wears, you can see it in Initiative's videos. And I think she'd be bi. Cora will almost certainly be straight and I don't think they wouldn't give any human female romance for Sara, she's a good candidate for that spot. I'll be happy either way. More options is always better, so long as they're attractive and not bland as hell. Considering her importance though, there's great potential for her personality, so I'm confident on that front. Her looks on the other hand... I discussed my concerns on that in two other threads extensively already. Is it me or both of them have buzz cuts? That'd be a custom Ryder then? Or when they put the helmet on the hair just looks like that? Also his face looks different to me. And well yeah she could be bi as well, I can see it going either way. Everyone's bald when wearing helmet. And faces in general seem to look a bit different when wearing helmet. It's the case with Sara as well. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2016 0:52:47 GMT
Is it me or both of them have buzz cuts? That'd be a custom Ryder then? Or when they put the helmet on the hair just looks like that? Also his face looks different to me. And well yeah she could be bi as well, I can see it going either way. That could be them wearing something equivalent to a CCA(Communications Carrier Assembly), also known as the Snoopy Cap, that astronauts wear. We see an image of Alec Ryder wearing one. |
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Post by peebee on Dec 8, 2016 1:10:04 GMT
Is it me or both of them have buzz cuts? That'd be a custom Ryder then? Or when they put the helmet on the hair just looks like that? Also his face looks different to me. And well yeah she could be bi as well, I can see it going either way. That could be them wearing something equivalent to a CCA(Communications Carrier Assembly), also known as the Snoopy Cap, that astronauts wear. We see an image of Alec Ryder wearing one. I'd prefer them to wear that than to be with buzzcuts suddenly... I want to think it's that but it seems too thin in here. Maybe they are still tweaking this kind of thing. |
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 8, 2016 15:01:21 GMT
I hope all alien romances are bisexual. I find gender-gating the aliens a bit silly since I assume the appeal lies mostly in the personality and procreation is not an option anyway (except for Asari and there it doesn't matter either). You can't even tell Salarian males and females apart all that well. Krogan are fairly smiliar in physiology too. I doubt human males and females look THAT different to an alien to warrant gender preference.
I also hope at least one alien romance is non-sexual. The physical aspect of the Garrus romance still creeps me out...
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Post by Panda on Dec 9, 2016 1:18:57 GMT
I hope all alien romances are bisexual. I find gender-gating the aliens a bit silly since I assume the appeal lies mostly in the personality and procreation is not an option anyway (except for Asari and there it doesn't matter either). You can't even tell Salarian males and females apart all that well. Krogan are fairly smiliar in physiology too. I doubt human males and females look THAT different to an alien to warrant gender preference. I also hope at least one alien romance is non-sexual. The physical aspect of the Garrus romance still creeps me out... It was pretty weird that all aliens expect Asaris seemed to be straight (and Nyreen in Omega DLC) seemed to be straight in the trilogy. |
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 9, 2016 1:59:52 GMT
I hope all alien romances are bisexual. I find gender-gating the aliens a bit silly since I assume the appeal lies mostly in the personality and procreation is not an option anyway (except for Asari and there it doesn't matter either). You can't even tell Salarian males and females apart all that well. Krogan are fairly smiliar in physiology too. I doubt human males and females look THAT different to an alien to warrant gender preference. I also hope at least one alien romance is non-sexual. The physical aspect of the Garrus romance still creeps me out... It was pretty weird that all aliens expect Asaris seemed to be straight (and Nyreen in Omega DLC) seemed to be straight in the trilogy. Did you? I didn't... I mean, I doubt humans would even notice, with most races... also, when looking at our own world history as well as other mammalian species, only post religious humans seam to even care. I can imagine that it would be a wasteful oddity for Salarians, since they have an arranged procreation system, and Vorcha are practically earthworms, so they don't even have a concept of gender,... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 16:38:24 GMT
Romance guessing game? Why not!
Cora-IMO she'll be the straight option for Scott.
Liam- same traditional option for Sara
PeeBee - unlike many people here I think she'll be a Sara only romance. I'm getting this Sera vibe there
Vetra - IMO she'll be bisex
Dr. Lexi - the traditional asari bi romance (maybe male only to balance PeeBee)
Drack - if he's a romance then he'll be the Iron Bull of ME for both male and female
Reyes - he's the gay romance
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 17:54:00 GMT
Does anyone know by chance whether there are more romances in Mass Effect Andromeda than in Dragon Age Inquisition (In DAI we had 8 + Harding)? Did the developers say something about it?
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Post by sageoflife on Dec 9, 2016 17:57:28 GMT
I think there's a pretty good chance that Liam will be an option for both genders. It's almost certain that Peebee will, and they seem to be sort of pairing up those two. I also suspect they don't want to make the same mistake they did in the first game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 18:27:50 GMT
I would prefer Vetra to be bisexual, because I like romantic conflicts. Alternatively, it could be PeeBee, but I have seen an Asari romance already, so tbh, I would actually prefer her to be a friend for my PCs, w/o taking flirts. I am certainly very much hoping for a lot of interactions, including romantic with Andromedians. I would like to play a character that intergrates into the new world, and becomes a part of it on one playthrough, and another who sticks to his own and has a conquering mindset. I hope the game allows for both.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 9, 2016 19:04:36 GMT
Does anyone know by chance whether there are more romances in Mass Effect Andromeda than in Dragon Age Inquisition (In DAI we had 8 + Harding)? Did the developers say something about it? Mac Walters pretty much said that they will have "more romances then ever before"... whether that means more then ME or more then all BW games in general, I can't say. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 19:07:57 GMT
Does anyone know by chance whether there are more romances in Mass Effect Andromeda than in Dragon Age Inquisition (In DAI we had 8 + Harding)? Did the developers say something about it? Mac Walters pretty much said that they will have "more romances then ever before"... whatever that means. Hmmm... I wonder if they mean only the Mass Effect series or all Bioware games (except SWTOR). I can not imagine that we will have more romances than in SWTOR. If they were talking about Mass Effect, it would have to be at least 7 options, because in Mass Effect 2 there were six full romances (not counting Kelly). |
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Dec 9, 2016 21:00:37 GMT
If we are only getting 6 squad-mates as Mac implied then it means that a lot of these romances are going to happen outside the squad, maybe even more than half of them. In a squad of 6 I highly doubt all of them are going to be romancable, 1 or 2 definitely won't be (looking at you old uncle Drack). It's safe to assume the last spot on the team is going to go to an Andromedan and will most likely be male.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 21:04:53 GMT
If we are only getting 6 squad-mates as Mac implied then it means that a lot of these romances are going to happen outside the squad, maybe even more than half of them. In a squad of 6 I highly doubt all of them are going to be romancable, 1 or 2 definitely won't be (looking at you old uncle Drack). It's safe to assume the last spot on the team is going to go to an Andromedan and will most likely be male. Hold on, I thought it was 7 squad-mates, not six? I think I saw it on the internet, so it must be true! |
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Dec 9, 2016 21:12:00 GMT
If we are only getting 6 squad-mates as Mac implied then it means that a lot of these romances are going to happen outside the squad, maybe even more than half of them. In a squad of 6 I highly doubt all of them are going to be romancable, 1 or 2 definitely won't be (looking at you old uncle Drack). It's safe to assume the last spot on the team is going to go to an Andromedan and will most likely be male. Hold on, I thought it was 7 squad-mates, not six? I think I saw it on the internet, so it must be true! So who knows, can't tell if that's confirmation or not. |
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If you get an alternative path and don't just get blocked out of content it could be interesting, though... And, anyway, I settle for finding a character I really like as LI, I don't mind having to metagame it all
