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Post by dalinne on Dec 5, 2016 12:13:20 GMT
Guessing games I'm hoping that we get more male squaddies than romances than it seems at the moment, it'd be suck if straight bro!Ryder had once again more options. I'm expecting Vetra to be LI, I'm quite convinced really. I'm also convinced that she will be option for sis!Ryder, but idk if she's lesbian or bi. Liam and Cora are pretty surely LI's and straight if not bi. Human LI's are must in the series and important one's (squaddies) as well. Peebee actually might not be LI. Liara was so locked on being Shepard's LI that it would be twist to have Asari as non-romantical character instead. Maybe she's too job-oriented to think of dating. .. or she's pansexual and available for both. I don't think Drack will be LI. I think it'd go too much in weird territory romance-wise. Though Turian's are pretty weird too when you thin kf of it so.. we will see. If he's LI I think he will be available to bro!ryder or both. Altough I wouldn't mind a Krogan love interest, I don't see Drack being one. He looks way older than Wrex (who was like a middleaged Krogan) and very generic Krogan as far as we have seen him be. Things can change, but I don't see him being a love interest. If there is a Krogan love interest, I see NPC Krogan Charr style or very polite Krogan from Illium. I hope Vetra is bisexual as well as Liam and Cora, but we don't even know if Vetra is romanceable in that regard... Until I know more about Liam's Voice Actor (my weakness, the reason why I felt in love with characters in the first place), Reyes is the one who I am more attracted to.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 5, 2016 12:25:55 GMT
Guessing games I'm hoping that we get more male squaddies than romances than it seems at the moment, it'd be suck if straight bro!Ryder had once again more options. I'm expecting Vetra to be LI, I'm quite convinced really. I'm also convinced that she will be option for sis!Ryder, but idk if she's lesbian or bi. Liam and Cora are pretty surely LI's and straight if not bi. Human LI's are must in the series and important one's (squaddies) as well. Peebee actually might not be LI. Liara was so locked on being Shepard's LI that it would be twist to have Asari as non-romantical character instead. Maybe she's too job-oriented to think of dating. .. or she's pansexual and available for both. I don't think Drack will be LI. I think it'd go too much in weird territory romance-wise. Though Turian's are pretty weird too when you thin kf of it so.. we will see. If he's LI I think he will be available to bro!ryder or both. Altough I wouldn't mind a Krogan love interest, I don't see Drack being one. He looks way older than Wrex (who was like a middleaged Krogan) and very generic Krogan as far as we have seen him be. Things can change, but I don't see him being a love interest. If there is a Krogan love interest, I see NPC Krogan Charr style or very polite Krogan from Illium. I hope Vetra is bisexual as well as Liam and Cora, but we don't even know if Vetra is romanceable in that regard... Until I know more about Liam's Voice Actor (my weakness, the reason why I felt in love with characters in the first place), Reyes is the one who I am more attracted to. The more I read about the MEA loyalty/relationship system, the more I believe that everyone might be romanceable in some way or the other... not all of those romances might include sex, but it seams to be a much more flexible system. So, even if a character is not bi/homosexual, they might very well become intimate friends to Ryder.
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Post by javeart on Dec 5, 2016 12:54:01 GMT
Altough I wouldn't mind a Krogan love interest, I don't see Drack being one. He looks way older than Wrex (who was like a middleaged Krogan) and very generic Krogan as far as we have seen him be. Things can change, but I don't see him being a love interest. If there is a Krogan love interest, I see NPC Krogan Charr style or very polite Krogan from Illium. I hope Vetra is bisexual as well as Liam and Cora, but we don't even know if Vetra is romanceable in that regard... Until I know more about Liam's Voice Actor ( my weakness, the reason why I felt in love with characters in the first place), Reyes is the one who I am more attracted to. good to know I'm not the only one personally, i'd need to hear more of reyes, though, i'm still not quite sold
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 13:25:20 GMT
If Cora's voice actor turns out to be Laura Bailey I'm gonna die from happiness. Her voice is mesmerazing, I loved it since playing Bloodrayne long time ago and her voice only got better since then.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 5, 2016 13:59:02 GMT
If Cora's voice actor turns out to be Laura Bailey I'm gonna die from happiness. Her voice is mesmerazing, I loved it since playing Bloodrayne long time ago and her voice only got better since then. I always was a big fan of Lia Sargent, sadly she doesn't do much voice work anymore these days... she was the lead - Shion Uzuki - in one of the greatest scifi game series besides ME, Xenosaga.
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Dec 5, 2016 20:34:25 GMT
You know, I'd love it if we were able to romance a fellow Pathfinder. We know there's a Pathfinder HQ on the Nexus that Ryder will have to go to during his/her journey. This is where the 2nd briefing said we will be able to converge with the other Pathfinders on our findings and share information. It sounds like we'll be meeting with them quite a bit during the story, they might even be the Mass Effect equivalent of Inquisition's advisors. So crazy thought, what if Ryder had a fraternization-type relationship with one of them? Oh my, think of the drama ! You're all supposed be professional with each other and prioritize your path-finding duties but a then fellow Pathfinder starts to get the hots for our new protagonist. Reluctantly of course . It results in a secret love-affair where they have to continue to act professional in front of others. Not only that but their responsibilities to their respective races may also challenge their relationship. The more I thought about it the more I loved the idea. Please, continue Very well. Seeing as how there's a lack of maliens/men introduced so far lets pretend this hypothetical option is a male option for female Ryder (Male turian Pathfinder maybe? Yes please). Just so I can go into more detail. So what would their relationship be like? After thinking about it I realized femshep never had an LI that was abrasive with her at first. The guys so far have been easy to talk to and win over, I think we need to change that . So instead of you two getting along right away, you two seem to be at odds with each other from the start (at least on the surface anyway ). Remember Shepard and the turian councilor? Your interactions with this Pathfinder are similar, he is simply frustrating and Ryder can't figure out what his problem is. This Pathfinder respected Alec but he doesn't know you well and he makes it clear that he can't trust your judgment just yet. He even accuses Alec of nepotism when the position is passed down to Ryder. This makes him the most critical among the other Pathfinders during your early meetings. I imagine he would be slightly sarcastic but would have this undeniable authority about him, exasperating Ryder when he spoke to her; He always has a clever retort and gets the upper-hand in their conversations. Ryder can't stand him, even more so when he's right . The ability to lead isn't something that can just be passed down so easily so as the story progresses she tries to prove that she was chosen for her ability not just because Alec was her father. After a few story missions Ryder finds her stride, she establishes colonies, helps out the other species and proves she's just as skilled and capable as the other Pathfinders. There is a point in the story where Ryder talks to our LI expecting an improvement in his attitude towards her, especially after all the good work she has done. She's noticed progress in the past few conversations. Even started to get know him a little bit. But just when she thought she was getting somewhere with him he starts to act strangely impersonal and distant. Not his usual obnoxious self. She thinks it's because he still doesn't respect her so you have the option during this conversation to finally let him have it, it's spectacular! Everyone around you in the Pathfinder HQ stops what they're doing just to listen to this epic rant. For once he has no smart-ass reply, no snarky comment , he's speechless. A first. After a moment of awkward silence all he says is; "Ryder can I speak to you in private" To anyone else overhearing this exchange it sounds like she's in trouble. They go into an empty office, she prepares herself for another argument but she's astounded when she's instead met with a an apology. He admits that he was being hard on her at first because he didn't know what she was capable of. But despite this he wanted her to succeed, if he was tough on her he figured she'd try harder just prove him wrong. He knows now she was meant to be the human Pathfinder even if Alec wasn't her father. He doesn't say it but Ryder suddenly realizes that he was secretly helping her from behind the scenes as well. Perhaps there was an earlier mission where she was given restricted information anonymously but didn't know where the lead came from until now. "If what you're saying is true , if you've been helping me, if you respect me. Then why, WHY are you still acting like an as*hole!" He lets it slip that the respect he has for Ryder has turned into attraction, very intense attraction . Something he can't allow himself to feel in his position. Acting on these feelings would be fraternization and even if he didn't they are, at the very least, inappropriate . Ryder constantly trying to get more personal with him didn't exactly help either and only made these feelings harder to avoid. So he figured he needed to be colder with her her instead; 1.bp.blogspot.com/-VbHwnzHl8Cg/VPHf72_gxiI/AAAAAAABFxA/Qf51w2FBGig/s1600/tumblr_mgyxdednvw1qhz1edo1_250.gif He admits he can't stand it anymore and then suddenly all the built up tension between them just explodes . I'm talking stuff getting knocked over , intense making-out, they ruin that office . The relationship they decide to have is a secretive one, they continue to meet each other in private to blow off steam while keeping up appearances at the HQ. Eventually they can't keep their relationship separated from their work, Ryder has to make tough decisions that may affect the other species including the Pathfinder she's sleeping with and falling in love with. I can also see other characters finding out about it and using the relationship to discredit Ryder in some way. Lots of potential for drama there! Didn't mean for this to be so long but once I started to type I couldn't stop
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Post by Wheeljack on Dec 5, 2016 21:27:30 GMT
Very well. Seeing as how there's a the lack of malien/men introduced so far lets pretend this hypothetical option is a male option for female Ryder (male turian pathfinder maybe? Yes please). Just so I can go into more detail. So what would their relationship be like? After thinking about it I realized femshep never had an LI that was abrasive with her at first. The guys so far have been easy to talk to and win over, I think we need to change that . So instead of you two getting along right away, you two seem to be at odds with each other from the start (at least on the surface anyway ). Remember Shepard and the turian councilor? Your interactions with this Pathfinder are similar, he is simply frustrating and Ryder can't figure out what his problem is. This Pathfinder respected Alec but he doesn't know you well so he can't trust your judgment just yet. This makes him the most critical among the other Pathfinders during your early meetings. I imagine he would be slightly sarcastic but would have this undeniable authority about him, exasperating Ryder when he spoke to her; He always has a clever retort and gets the upper-hand in their conversations. Ryder can't stand him, even more so when he's right . The ability to lead isn't something that can just be passed down so easily so as the story progresses she tries to prove that she was chosen for her ability not just because Alec was her father. After a few story missions Ryder finds her stride, she establishes colonies, helps out the other species and proves she's just as skilled and capable as the other Pathfinders. There is a point in the story where Ryder talks to our LI expecting an improvement in his attitude towards her. She's noticed progress in the past few conversations. Even started to get know him a little bit. But just when she thought she was getting somewhere with him he starts to act strangely impersonal and distant. Not his usual obnoxious self. She thinks it's because he still doesn't respect her so you have the option during this conversation to finally let him have it, it's spectacular! Everyone around you in the Pathfinder HQ stops what they're doing just to listen to this epic rant. For once he has no smart-ass reply, no snarky comment , he's speechless. A first. After a moment of awkward silence all he says is; "Ryder can I speak to you in private" To anyone else overhearing this exchange it sounds like she's in trouble. They go into an empty office, she prepares herself for another argument but she's astounded when she's instead met with a an apology. He admits he was being hard on her at first because he didn't know what she was capable of. But he wanted her to succeed and now he knows she was meant to be a Pathfinder. He doesn't say it but Ryder suddenly realizes that he was secretly helping her from behind the scenes as well. Perhaps there was an earlier mission where she was given restricted information but didn't know where the lead came from. "If what you're saying is true , if you've been helping me, if you respect me. Then why, WHY are you still acting like an as*hole!" He lets it slip that the respect he has for Ryder has turned into attraction, very intense attraction . Something he can't allow to feel in his position. It would be fraternization. Ryder constantly trying to get more personal with him didn't exactly help and only made these feelings harder to avoid. So he figured he needed to be colder with her her instead; 1.bp.blogspot.com/-VbHwnzHl8Cg/VPHf72_gxiI/AAAAAAABFxA/Qf51w2FBGig/s1600/tumblr_mgyxdednvw1qhz1edo1_250.gif He admits he can't stand it anymore and then suddenly all the built up tension between them just explodes . I'm talking stuff getting knocked over , intense making-out, they ruin that office . The relationship they decide to have is a secretive one, they continue to meet each other in private to blow off steam while keeping up appearances at the HQ. Eventually they can't keep their relationship separated from their work, Ryder has to make tough decisions that may affect the other species including the Pathfinder she's sleeping with and falling in love with. I can also see other characters finding out about it and using the relationship to discredit Ryder in some way. Lots of potential for drama there! Didn't mean for this to be so long but once I started to type I couldn't stop If you aren't working for Bioware, you need to be. Now I'm hoping for exactly this scenario to play out and the likelihood of that is so minuscule, I am doomed. XD
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 5, 2016 21:42:41 GMT
I always thought Salarians were like amphibians, who mate externally. The male salamander drops a packet of sperm near the female and she puts it into her cloaca. Romantic, no? ...
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Dec 5, 2016 22:17:23 GMT
If you aren't working for Bioware, you need to be. Now I'm hoping for exactly this scenario to play out and the likelihood of that is so minuscule, I am doomed. XD Awww thank you! I share your pain also, why do I do this to myself XD.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Dec 6, 2016 2:49:28 GMT
Altough I wouldn't mind a Krogan love interest, I don't see Drack being one. He looks way older than Wrex (who was like a middleaged Krogan) and very generic Krogan as far as we have seen him be. Things can change, but I don't see him being a love interest. If there is a Krogan love interest, I see NPC Krogan Charr style or very polite Krogan from Illium. I hope Vetra is bisexual as well as Liam and Cora, but we don't even know if Vetra is romanceable in that regard... Until I know more about Liam's Voice Actor ( my weakness, the reason why I felt in love with characters in the first place), Reyes is the one who I am more attracted to. good to know I'm not the only one personally, i'd need to hear more of reyes, though, i'm still not quite sold As long as the LI gives good voice I don't really care what species, my Ryder is all over that.
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Post by dalinne on Dec 6, 2016 23:25:54 GMT
good to know I'm not the only one personally, i'd need to hear more of reyes, though, i'm still not quite sold As long as the LI gives good voice I don't really care what species, my Ryder is all over that. Yep. Another "voicesexual" here At this moment Reyes is winning Although I like Peebee's voice. I was expecting something annoying but she sounded pretty good
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Post by AGECCR on Dec 7, 2016 0:39:42 GMT
good to know I'm not the only one personally, i'd need to hear more of reyes, though, i'm still not quite sold As long as the LI gives good voice I don't really care what species, my Ryder is all over that. I'm sorry, but the way you phrased that makes it sound so dirty.... and I approve
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Post by lilyenachaos on Dec 7, 2016 1:57:06 GMT
As long as the LI gives good voice I don't really care what species, my Ryder is all over that. I'm sorry, but the way you phrased that makes it sound so dirty.... and I approve
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Dec 7, 2016 12:48:51 GMT
As long as the LI gives good voice I don't really care what species, my Ryder is all over that. Yep. Another "voicesexual" here At this moment Reyes is winning Although I like Peebee's voice. I was expecting something annoying but she sounded pretty good Agreed, half of Garrus's sexual appeal was Brandon Keener's voicework.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 12:51:05 GMT
Yep. Another "voicesexual" here At this moment Reyes is winning Although I like Peebee's voice. I was expecting something annoying but she sounded pretty good Agreed, half of Garrus's sexual appeal was Brandon Keener's voicework. Even for me as a straight dude, Garrus voice always made me feel like... www.kappit.com/img/pics/201602_1009_gfhfe_sm.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 13:35:53 GMT
I'm highly susceptible to "good voice", but Garrus doesn't do it for me. Gideon Emery, on the other hand......
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Post by fialka on Dec 7, 2016 13:55:29 GMT
I'm highly susceptible to "good voice", but Garrus doesn't do it for me. Gideon Emery, on the other hand...... That's funny... I'm exactly the opposite Never understood the big deal about Emery's voice. It's distinctive and he's a great actor, but I never found it particularly sexy. It might just be that while I liked Fenris just fine, I didn't really get the romantic appeal. But Garrus just does it for me, and yeah, half of it's the voice. And that drawl thing he sometimes does... And his personality, of course. It's certainly not because I find spiky bird crickets with mangled faces hot. Though I do think Turians are really cool looking. Anyway, back to the speculation bit. Not sure if anyone here listened to the Fryda Wolff interview (it's quite long, and mostly not particularly interesting - and that's as much to blame on the interviewers as on their subject IMO) but she did talk about how she now knows every race's courtship and mating customs, because you have to in order to be with them. She also talked about how great it is that they cover all the bases with gender and sexuality and all that, and joked about how she just goes around asking everyone to sex her in the game. I know the devs told us there would be a lot more options this time around, with more meaningful and varied relationships, but I took that with a huge grain of salt considering ME's history in particular. But her interview gives me a bit more optimism that we really will have a varied pool to choose from (the courtship part of it makes me think she's not just talking flings here), even as a female protagonist.
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Post by javeart on Dec 7, 2016 14:05:03 GMT
I'm highly susceptible to "good voice", but Garrus doesn't do it for me. Gideon Emery, on the other hand...... i love garrus voice (and Thane's, Kaidan's, Solas... quite a few, actually), but fenris' is just ... too much
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Post by javeart on Dec 7, 2016 14:15:00 GMT
I'm highly susceptible to "good voice", but Garrus doesn't do it for me. Gideon Emery, on the other hand...... That's funny... I'm exactly the opposite Never understood the big deal about Emery's voice. It's distinctive and he's a great actor, but I never found it particularly sexy. It might just be that while I liked Fenris just fine, I didn't really get the romantic appeal. But Garrus just does it for me, and yeah, half of it's the voice. And that drawl thing he sometimes does... And his personality, of course. It's certainly not because I find spiky bird crickets with mangled faces hot. Though I do think Turians are really cool looking. Anyway, back to the speculation bit. Not sure if anyone here listened to the Fryda Wolff interview (it's quite long, and mostly not particularly interesting - and that's as much to blame on the interviewers as on their subject IMO) but she did talk about how she now knows every race's courtship and mating customs, because you have to in order to be with them. She also talked about how great it is that they cover all the bases with gender and sexuality and all that, and joked about how she just goes around asking everyone to sex her in the game. I know the devs told us there would be a lot more options this time around, with more meaningful and varied relationships, but I took that with a huge grain of salt considering ME's history in particular. But her interview gives me a bit more optimism that we really will have a varied pool to choose from (the courtship part of it makes me think she's not just talking flings here), even as a female protagonist. Even if there's no much reason to be optimistic about it, considering as you say ME's history, I actually am, about the number of options that everyone will have, at least. But the thing is I think I read somewhere they said that the "smallest" romance would have more content than the "biggest" in ME3? Combines with more romances even than in DAI. It seems like a lot of resources invested in this. I don't know, there's has to be a catch, somewhere
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 14:59:08 GMT
That's funny... I'm exactly the opposite Never understood the big deal about Emery's voice. It's distinctive and he's a great actor, but I never found it particularly sexy. It might just be that while I liked Fenris just fine, I didn't really get the romantic appeal. But Garrus just does it for me, and yeah, half of it's the voice. And that drawl thing he sometimes does... And his personality, of course. It's certainly not because I find spiky bird crickets with mangled faces hot. Though I do think Turians are really cool looking. Anyway, back to the speculation bit. Not sure if anyone here listened to the Fryda Wolff interview (it's quite long, and mostly not particularly interesting - and that's as much to blame on the interviewers as on their subject IMO) but she did talk about how she now knows every race's courtship and mating customs, because you have to in order to be with them. She also talked about how great it is that they cover all the bases with gender and sexuality and all that, and joked about how she just goes around asking everyone to sex her in the game. I know the devs told us there would be a lot more options this time around, with more meaningful and varied relationships, but I took that with a huge grain of salt considering ME's history in particular. But her interview gives me a bit more optimism that we really will have a varied pool to choose from (the courtship part of it makes me think she's not just talking flings here), even as a female protagonist. Even if there's no much reason to be optimistic about it, considering as you say ME's history, I actually am, about the number of options that everyone will have, at least. But the thing is I think I read somewhere they said that the "smallest" romance would have more content than the "biggest" in ME3? Combines with more romances even than in DAI. It seems like a lot of resources invested in this. I don't know, there's has to be a catch, somewhere The "catch" might be, that the actual romances are much more subtle and integrated into the overall story of Ryders crew/journey. Remember, Mac also said that many of those relationships might go no further then a Garrus like "bromance". Without knowing exactly how to react to any given character at any given time, it might very well be possible to never get with the character you fancy the most... that happens when you take out the predictable formulas. One example for that might be Jack in ME2. You could sleep with her pretty early, but it actually lead you to a relationship path with her that went nowhere, because she viewed you as just another person in her live that "used" her. Now imagine all relationships being like that, only even more interwoven with the main story and each other, and I think we have an inkling of where BW is going...
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Post by javeart on Dec 7, 2016 15:25:18 GMT
Even if there's no much reason to be optimistic about it, considering as you say ME's history, I actually am, about the number of options that everyone will have, at least. But the thing is I think I read somewhere they said that the "smallest" romance would have more content than the "biggest" in ME3? Combines with more romances even than in DAI. It seems like a lot of resources invested in this. I don't know, there's has to be a catch, somewhere The "catch" might be, that the actual romances are much more subtle and integrated into the overall story of Ryders crew/journey. Remember, Mac also said that many of those relationships might go no further then a Garrus like "bromance". Without knowing exactly how to react to any given character at any given time, it might very well be possible to never get with the character you fancy the most... that happens when you take out the predictable formulas. One example for that might be Jack in ME2. You could sleep with her pretty early, but it actually lead you to a relationship path with her that went nowhere, because she viewed you as just another person in her live that "used" her. Now imagine all relationships being like that, only even more interwoven with the main story and each other, and I think we have an inkling of where BW is going... Even if I can acknowledge that variations like the one we got with Jack in ME2 are always a nice touch, I have to say that I'm not really a fan, I'm sure that if there's a way to ruin the romance with the carachtter I like, I'm going to ruin it fast If you get an alternative path and don't just get blocked out of content it could be interesting, though... And, anyway, I settle for finding a character I really like as LI, I don't mind having to metagame it all
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 15:36:12 GMT
The "catch" might be, that the actual romances are much more subtle and integrated into the overall story of Ryders crew/journey. Remember, Mac also said that many of those relationships might go no further then a Garrus like "bromance". Without knowing exactly how to react to any given character at any given time, it might very well be possible to never get with the character you fancy the most... that happens when you take out the predictable formulas. One example for that might be Jack in ME2. You could sleep with her pretty early, but it actually lead you to a relationship path with her that went nowhere, because she viewed you as just another person in her live that "used" her. Now imagine all relationships being like that, only even more interwoven with the main story and each other, and I think we have an inkling of where BW is going... Even if I can acknowledge that variations like the one we got with Jack in ME2 are always a nice touch, I have to say that I'm not really a fan, I'm sure that if there's a way to ruin the romance with the carachtter I like, I'm going to ruin it fast If you get an alternative path and don't just get blocked out of content it could be interesting, though... And, anyway, I settle for finding a character I really like as LI, I don't mind having to metagame it all Neither do I, just stating that this seams what BW is aiming for, according to what I've read... maybe there still are romances that have a more obvious path, like in the past. We'll see...
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 7, 2016 15:57:37 GMT
I only learned the term 'proculsexual' this month Seems to describe a significant contingent on BSN
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 16:01:49 GMT
I only learned the term 'proculsexual' this month Seems to describe a significant contingent on BSN How was the comment I read about that? "It's not a sexual orientation, it's just bad luck."?
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